Hello, I am designing a picture card holder for a busy store with
regular through traffic. I am going to do it in sheet metal steel 1 mm
thick. cut out a square for the picture to show through , fold back the
sides and cut out a tab each side that will slot on a wire frame.

I am going to paint the picture holder a matt black and then have the
paint hardened.

My concern is:

1) that the paint finish and look of the holder will stand up to wear
and tear over a 2 year period-one thing I would not want to see is
corroded metal exposed and

2) that 1mm thick steel is going to be strong enough to hold up to wear
and tear and keep its correct shape over a 2 year period.I am not sure
wether i should leave the folded edges free or wether they should be
attached together(welded?)

Thanks

Steve





Thanks Steve

Have you considered powder coat? It would hold up better than paint.
There are other coatings as well, but not sure what your budget will
sustain.

JW

jw wrote:
Have you considered powder coat? It would hold up better than paint.
There are other coatings as well, but not sure what your budget will
sustain.

JW


No not yet-but am now-thanks

Steve

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Hello, I am designing a picture card holder for a busy store with
regular through traffic. I am going to do it in sheet metal steel 1 mm
thick. cut out a square for the picture to show through , fold back the
sides and cut out a tab each side that will slot on a wire frame.

I am going to paint the picture holder a matt black and then have the
paint hardened.

My concern is:

1) that the paint finish and look of the holder will stand up to wear
and tear over a 2 year period-one thing I would not want to see is
corroded metal exposed and

2) that 1mm thick steel is going to be strong enough to hold up to wear
and tear and keep its correct shape over a 2 year period.I am not sure
wether i should leave the folded edges free or wether they should be
attached together(welded?)

Thanks

Steve

Are you in the US? You may have trouble getting one mm sheet, why not
specify standard gauge which will be readily available and no metric penalty
price on it.

Wayne

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Hello, I am designing a picture card holder for a busy store with
regular through traffic. I am going to do it in sheet metal steel 1 mm
thick. cut out a square for the picture to show through , fold back the
sides and cut out a tab each side that will slot on a wire frame.

I am going to paint the picture holder a matt black and then have the
paint hardened.

My concern is:

1) that the paint finish and look of the holder will stand up to wear
and tear over a 2 year period-one thing I would not want to see is
corroded metal exposed and

2) that 1mm thick steel is going to be strong enough to hold up to wear
and tear and keep its correct shape over a 2 year period.I am not sure
wether i should leave the folded edges free or wether they should be
attached together(welded?)

Thanks

Steve

You should also consider Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene as a
material. It will never wear out! You cannot glue it, but you could design
it for snap together and buy the material and design with box format for
rigidity. They use this material on heavy duty earth excavator's teeth
because of it's resistance to abrasion wear. Try sanding a piece and you
will know why!

This is going to be made in China-

This is a good idea -Would it have the rigidity required?

could I directly use my flat metal pattern and just substitute
Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene?

however, I probably have not got enough time to research the
feasibility of using this material and also wether the
Chinese manufacturer can even get it .

Steve

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:51:07 GMT, "Wayne Lundberg"
wrote:



Are you in the US? You may have trouble getting one mm sheet, why not
specify standard gauge which will be readily available and no metric penalty
price on it.

Wayne

16 gauge
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

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I probably have not got enough time to research the
feasibility of using this material and also wether the
Chinese manufacturer can even get it .

Why are you sending this kind of work to China?

Plenty of local shops could do it for you.

--

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Roger Shoaf

Important factors in selecting a mate:
1] Depth of gene pool
2] Position on the food chain.

wrote:
Hello, I am designing a picture card holder for a busy store with
regular through traffic. I am going to do it in sheet metal steel 1 mm
thick. cut out a square for the picture to show through , fold back the
sides and cut out a tab each side that will slot on a wire frame.

I am going to paint the picture holder a matt black and then have the
paint hardened.

My concern is:

1) that the paint finish and look of the holder will stand up to wear
and tear over a 2 year period-one thing I would not want to see is
corroded metal exposed and

Have it powder coated. That'll last a long time. Some time ago when a
had a deck built in the back of my house, I had the metal parts powder
coated. It looks very even and holds up beautifully.

When the house was painted I did the same thing with the railings of the
decks in the front of the house. Instead of having them painted, I took
them off and had them powder coated. It turned out that my railings
were thrown in with the same batch that the powder coating outfit was
doing at the time for railings for the restaurant at the new SF Giants
ball park, because they were the same color. They are holding up
beautifully also.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Roger Shoaf wrote:
wrote in message
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I probably have not got enough time to research the

feasibility of using this material and also wether the
Chinese manufacturer can even get it .


Why are you sending this kind of work to China?

Plenty of local shops could do it for you.


I have a feeling he may be talking large quantity, maybe very large
quantity.

Much cheaper in China. Sure, there are plenty of local shops who can do
it, but can they do it at the same price?

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

Thanks again all. I am definitely going powder coat if i can.
Abrasha you are right, this is going to be a big quantity for a major
retailer although I won't say who. Must confess, I would rather give
the work to a local outfit, but the choice is not mine to make....

Steve





Abrasha wrote:
Roger Shoaf wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
I probably have not got enough time to research the

feasibility of using this material and also wether the
Chinese manufacturer can even get it .


Why are you sending this kind of work to China?

Plenty of local shops could do it for you.


I have a feeling he may be talking large quantity, maybe very large
quantity.

Much cheaper in China. Sure, there are plenty of local shops who can do
it, but can they do it at the same price?

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

wrote:
Thanks again all. I am definitely going powder coat if i can.
Abrasha you are right, this is going to be a big quantity for a major
retailer although I won't say who. Must confess, I would rather give
the work to a local outfit, but the choice is not mine to make....

Steve





Hmmm,

That sounds like something of the order of Crate & Barrel or Pottery Barn.

Good for you to be involved in something like that. I think it's very
exited to be involved with "economies of scale".

Wouldn't mind to do it myself some time. I'd love to have my chess set
produced in very large quantities in China, so it could retail well
under $500.00 in the US. I could sell quite a few at that price.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

wrote in message
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Thanks again all. I am definitely going powder coat if i can.
Abrasha you are right, this is going to be a big quantity for a major
retailer although I won't say who. Must confess, I would rather give
the work to a local outfit, but the choice is not mine to make....

Steve





Abrasha wrote:
Roger Shoaf wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
I probably have not got enough time to research the

feasibility of using this material and also wether the
Chinese manufacturer can even get it .


Why are you sending this kind of work to China?

Plenty of local shops could do it for you.


I have a feeling he may be talking large quantity, maybe very large
quantity.

Much cheaper in China. Sure, there are plenty of local shops who can do
it, but can they do it at the same price?

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

I have the perfect shop for you right here across the border from San Diego
in Tijuana. They have really up to date fab shop and state of the art powder
coating. The freight from China may be enough to justify doing it closer to
home. Take a look:
https://www.mydocsonline.com/pub/Way...ufacturing.pps

And as to UHMWPE... I don't think it's rigid enough, it's more like Teflon
than something like Lexan. And Lexan would be an ideal plastic material.
Tough, bullet proof!

Wayne