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WTB: clunker lathe
I'm looking to buy a used lathe. I'm going to convert this into a
special job machine and thus I don't need all the usual stuff. I don't care about bed wear, cross slide screw wear, or even if it has a lead screw. Basically, I'm looking for a cheap clunker, probably a SB Heavy 10 or equivalent (did any of the SB 9" have 5C capable spindles?). Lathe must have: Bed length, the shorter the better. I only need about 5" center to center. Head stock. Spindle hole 1-3/8" min, 1-1/2" or larger preferred. Saddle and cross slide. Tail stock. Would like: Lever 5C collet closer. Bench/cabinet mount. Don't need: Power cross feed Power long feed lead screw Apron Tooling other than the collet closer Motor I'm in southern Connecticut. Email me with what you have at jt27278 (at) optonline (dot) net Thanks! |
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Brentwood, NH (not exactly close)
http://www.brentwoodmachine.com/merc...rent/brent.htm had some with pretty serious bed wear, but that was maybe a year ago. You might give them a call. If you find a clunker elsewhere, it may save you money... Steve Brownfield, ME Jeff Taylor wrote: I'm looking to buy a used lathe. I'm going to convert this into a special job machine and thus I don't need all the usual stuff. I don't care about bed wear, cross slide screw wear, or even if it has a lead screw. Basically, I'm looking for a cheap clunker, probably a SB Heavy 10 or equivalent (did any of the SB 9" have 5C capable spindles?). Lathe must have: Bed length, the shorter the better. I only need about 5" center to center. Head stock. Spindle hole 1-3/8" min, 1-1/2" or larger preferred. Saddle and cross slide. Tail stock. Would like: Lever 5C collet closer. Bench/cabinet mount. Don't need: Power cross feed Power long feed lead screw Apron Tooling other than the collet closer Motor I'm in southern Connecticut. Email me with what you have at jt27278 (at) optonline (dot) net Thanks! |
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Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the
bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth Jeff Taylor wrote: I'm looking to buy a used lathe. I'm going to convert this into a special job machine and thus I don't need all the usual stuff. I don't care about bed wear, cross slide screw wear, or even if it has a lead screw. Basically, I'm looking for a cheap clunker, probably a SB Heavy 10 or equivalent (did any of the SB 9" have 5C capable spindles?). Lathe must have: Bed length, the shorter the better. I only need about 5" center to center. Head stock. Spindle hole 1-3/8" min, 1-1/2" or larger preferred. Saddle and cross slide. Tail stock. Would like: Lever 5C collet closer. Bench/cabinet mount. Don't need: Power cross feed Power long feed lead screw Apron Tooling other than the collet closer Motor I'm in southern Connecticut. Email me with what you have at jt27278 (at) optonline (dot) net Thanks! |
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"Rex B" wrote in message ... Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth Jeff Taylor wrote: I'm looking to buy a used lathe. I'm going to convert this into a special job machine and thus I don't need all the usual stuff. I don't care about bed wear, cross slide screw wear, or even if it has a lead screw. Basically, I'm looking for a cheap clunker, probably a SB Heavy 10 or equivalent (did any of the SB 9" have 5C capable spindles?). Lathe must have: Bed length, the shorter the better. I only need about 5" center to center. Head stock. Spindle hole 1-3/8" min, 1-1/2" or larger preferred. Saddle and cross slide. Tail stock. Would like: Lever 5C collet closer. Bench/cabinet mount. Don't need: Power cross feed Power long feed lead screw Apron Tooling other than the collet closer Motor I'm in southern Connecticut. Email me with what you have at jt27278 (at) optonline (dot) net Thanks! I was going to bid on this one, but did a little research and saw that it weighed 3900 lbs. Too much for my 3/4 ton truck. And I'd have to hire riggers to move it to a trailer or truck anyhow. It hasn't bid up more than $110 as of this afternoon. Haven't seen anything except the pictures on the website, but these Rivett lathes have been spoken of highly on a couple forums where I lurk. Go to www.govdeals.com, type in the word Rivett in the search window and it will come up. It's located in Largo, FL. Over by St. Petersburg, I think, on the Gulf coast of Fl. if you're interested in it. You might email Gunner, as he mentioned he's got a Rivett lathe, (but not this model), in his shop. The only difference between the 1020S and the 1020F model is that the F model is later, and has an electronic tach instead of mechanical. Also has a 12 1/2 inch swing instead of the 12 inch swing of the S model. Hope this helps your search. Garrett Fulton |
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Rex B wrote:
Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth I need to be able to put 1-1/4" through the spindle. That knocks out the Atlas and most of the small South Bends. Does anyone know if any of the 9" South Bends had 1-3/8" spindles? -Jeff Taylor |
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I was going to bid on this one, but did a little research and saw that it weighed 3900 lbs. Too much for my 3/4 ton truck. And I'd have to hire riggers to move it to a trailer or truck anyhow. It hasn't bid up more than $110 as of this afternoon. Haven't seen anything except the pictures on the website, but these Rivett lathes have been spoken of highly on a couple forums where I lurk. Go to www.govdeals.com, type in the word Rivett in the search window and it will come up. It's located in Largo, FL. Over by St. Petersburg, I think, on the Gulf coast of Fl. if you're interested in it. You might email Gunner, as he mentioned he's got a Rivett lathe, (but not this model), in his shop. The only difference between the 1020S and the 1020F model is that the F model is later, and has an electronic tach instead of mechanical. Also has a 12 1/2 inch swing instead of the 12 inch swing of the S model. Hope this helps your search. Garrett Fulton Thanks for the tip. If it was closer to home I might consider it, but it's really larger than I was wanting. -JT |
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Jeff Taylor wrote:
I'm looking to buy a used lathe. I'm going to convert this into a special job machine and thus I don't need all the usual stuff. I don't care about bed wear, cross slide screw wear, or even if it has a lead screw. Basically, I'm looking for a cheap clunker, probably a SB Heavy 10 or equivalent (did any of the SB 9" have 5C capable spindles?). Lathe must have: Bed length, the shorter the better. I only need about 5" center to center. Head stock. Spindle hole 1-3/8" min, 1-1/2" or larger preferred. Saddle and cross slide. Tail stock. Would like: Lever 5C collet closer. Bench/cabinet mount. Don't need: Power cross feed Power long feed lead screw Apron Tooling other than the collet closer Motor I'm in southern Connecticut. Email me with what you have at jt27278 (at) optonline (dot) net Thanks! Go to 'Clunkers-r-us', A Babin, prop. Snort! |
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no they don't
Tony "Jeff Taylor" wrote in message ... Rex B wrote: Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth I need to be able to put 1-1/4" through the spindle. That knocks out the Atlas and most of the small South Bends. Does anyone know if any of the 9" South Bends had 1-3/8" spindles? -Jeff Taylor |
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How much do you want to spend? there was a SB 13 with a rubber flex collet
some chucks for $600 in east haven, hell cut the bed. I will be looking at a few big ones in the morningdown in Stamford I'll let you know. If you email your # I can call you when I take a look "Jeff Taylor" wrote in message ... Rex B wrote: Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth I need to be able to put 1-1/4" through the spindle. That knocks out the Atlas and most of the small South Bends. Does anyone know if any of the 9" South Bends had 1-3/8" spindles? -Jeff Taylor |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:05:11 -0400, Jeff Taylor wrote:
Rex B wrote: Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth I need to be able to put 1-1/4" through the spindle. That knocks out the Atlas and most of the small South Bends. Does anyone know if any of the 9" South Bends had 1-3/8" spindles? -Jeff Taylor What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Gunner |
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In article , Gunner says...
What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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The lathes are bigger than you want, the Clover looked ok but is a big
machine 14" swing with 20" swing gap removed. Looked to be well used, not sure what he would take for it but the bridgeport J head I think $200 would make him happy, the mill is well used also. "Waynemak" wrote in message ... How much do you want to spend? there was a SB 13 with a rubber flex collet some chucks for $600 in east haven, hell cut the bed. I will be looking at a few big ones in the morningdown in Stamford I'll let you know. If you email your # I can call you when I take a look "Jeff Taylor" wrote in message ... Rex B wrote: Other than the Spindle through-hole, I have a 10" Atlas that fits the bill. I also figured on using if for things I wouldn't want to mess up my good lathes with. But I'd sell it. Rex B Fort Worth I need to be able to put 1-1/4" through the spindle. That knocks out the Atlas and most of the small South Bends. Does anyone know if any of the 9" South Bends had 1-3/8" spindles? -Jeff Taylor |
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jim rozen wrote:
In article , Gunner says... What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. -JT |
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In article , Jeff Taylor wrote:
jim rozen wrote: In article , Gunner says... What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. I believe that the Hardinge lathes have the actual spindle taper as designed for the 5C collets (which originate with Hardinge) *without* an adaptor needed -- just a drawbar. If you are spec'ing the diameter through the spindle to make sure that you can use 5C collets, then they should serve nicely. (I've not examined one, but I suspect that the spindle has a reduced section to guide the 5C collet, and then enlarged a bit behind that for the drawbar. Check it out, if this would suffice for you. And the largest that a 5C collet will pass through the spindle will be 1" -- while some collets are available to hold short workpieces at 1-1/8" maximum. However, if you *really* need something larger to pass through the entire spindle *without* the 5C collets, that is a different matter, and a non-Hardinge lathe might be a better choice. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:30:55 -0400, Jeff Taylor wrote:
jim rozen wrote: In article , Gunner says... What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. -JT Some of the Ramco's did indeed. The HSL is a basic 5C spindle Gunner The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of "loyalty" and "duty." Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute -- get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed. " Lazarus Long |
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Gunner wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:30:55 -0400, Jeff Taylor wrote: jim rozen wrote: In article , Gunner says... What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. -JT Some of the Ramco's did indeed. The HSL is a basic 5C spindle Gunner Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for a Ramco. -JT |
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I stopped in last month and didn't see any 10" South Bends. They parted
out the really bad one. I bought what was left of the headstock to make a large-diameter wheel lathe. jw |
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On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 09:51:18 -0400, Jeff Taylor wrote:
Gunner wrote: On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:30:55 -0400, Jeff Taylor wrote: jim rozen wrote: In article , Gunner says... What you are wanting is an old Ramco second ops lathe, or even a Hardinge HSL. Or an HC. Jim Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. -JT Some of the Ramco's did indeed. The HSL is a basic 5C spindle Gunner Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for a Ramco. -JT Also look for a "Wade" second ops lathe. Some of those were 16C, 1 5/8" or bigger Gunner The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of "loyalty" and "duty." Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute -- get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed. " Lazarus Long |
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In article , Jeff Taylor says...
Did either of those models have 1-1/4" through the spindle capability? The small Hardinge lathes that I've seen are all 1-5/32" max. All the hardinges have 1.25 inch plus spindle bore diameter. That's the OD of a 5C collet. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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I'm friendly with a local dealer who has 3 Clausing 63xx lathes that
altogether would fit your bill: all are missing something and the variable speed drives have been replaced with step pulleys. I passed on trying to make one good one out of the three. They're in Southern NH at Risons.com. Caveat Emptor: I *do* have an interest here as the price on the Rockwell lathe I got there is still to be determined, so helping him move these should be to my benefit. Besides, Bob is as nice a guy as any you'll meet. Dick Hamm Nashua NH |
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He's a nice guy, but take a careful look at what you're buying to make
sure you understand what works and what doesn't. Steve wrote: I'm friendly with a local dealer who has 3 Clausing 63xx lathes that altogether would fit your bill: all are missing something and the variable speed drives have been replaced with step pulleys. I passed on trying to make one good one out of the three. They're in Southern NH at Risons.com. Caveat Emptor: I *do* have an interest here as the price on the Rockwell lathe I got there is still to be determined, so helping him move these should be to my benefit. Besides, Bob is as nice a guy as any you'll meet. Dick Hamm Nashua NH |
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