How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built 30 yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me would mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage. Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards but they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not the center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one started mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard. The other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I said he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him "just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this guy is one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in age, set in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over onto my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40 ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go from
here?

Rod wrote:
How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built 30 yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me would mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage. Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards but
they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not the
center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one started
mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard. The
other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I said
he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had
the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this guy is
one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in age, set
in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over onto my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40 ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence the
back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go
from
here?

You may have a bigger problem than you think. In some areas, local laws
may give some form of property right to a neighbor who cars for and uses
part of your land if you don't object. You could loose use or even
ownership of that land. In some areas that is not the case.

I suggest you may want to check this out with your lawyer.

Even if this is not a legal problem in your area, you may be able to use
your lawyer to help out. Maybe, the lawyer could provide counsel to you
that you might be responsible for any injury the neighbor might have while
mowing your grass, and therefore you must insist that he no longer mow your
grass. You might even get a letter from your lawyer to the neighbor. That
way you can put the blame on the law.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

I saw a neighbor put up a row of small evergreen trees in a mulched bed
along the property line. That same neighbor still mows over onto the other
neighbor's property. Go figure...



Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear

Rod wrote:


Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40 ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go from
here?

If you can't dissuade the neighbor from mowing your lawn and can't put
up a fence, what about planting a hedge just inside your property line?
Or a line of fast-growing trees? Or a vegetable or flower or rock garden?

FurPaw

--

"Like the reason a dog
Has so many friends
He wags his tail
Instead of his tongue" - Aerosmith

To reply, unleash the dog

I'd go along with what another person said and plant a bed along the
property line. Just spray a strip of the grass with Roundup, let the
grass die and plant some sort of hedge plant this fall. You could also
put mulch around the plants to make it look better. Some good candidates
(depending on where you're from) are Arborvitae, Yew, Forsythia, Privet,
Red-Twig Dogwood, Juniper amongst others.

Another poster commented about you losing the land because another had
been using it. From my experience this does not hold true in a
sub-division. The lots in a sub-division would not change shape because
a guy mowed the lawn in the wrong place for a few years. Those sort of
laws usually involve rural land use situations from my experience...

Rob
PA


Rod wrote:

How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built 30 yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me would mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage. Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards but they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not the center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one started mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard. The other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I said he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him "just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this guy is one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in age, set in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over onto my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40 ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go from
here?

"Rod" wrote in message

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had
the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property.

Hard to say for sure, but why not try a pre-emptive strike. Mow your lawn
before he gets out there and perhaps he won't bother doing it again.

You could put a few plantings in to define the property line for a BIG hint.

Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

but by all means try some conversation first.




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and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Rod" wrote in message

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had
the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property.

Hard to say for sure, but why not try a pre-emptive strike. Mow your
lawn
before he gets out there and perhaps he won't bother doing it again.

You could put a few plantings in to define the property line for a BIG
hint.


Just the opposite...
the OP should fertilize and water the section being mowed so it grows faster
than the neigthbor can mow it...

-a|ex

Joseph Meehan writes:

In some areas, local laws
may give some form of property right to a neighbor who cars for and uses
part of your land if you don't object.

It's called "adverse possession", and would never apply to this type of
situation.

MUADIB® wrote in
:

Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

This has to be the worst advice on this topic to date.
If he or someone else were to be injured from striking a rebar he
planted,he could be jailed,and severely fined,perhaps even lose his home.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Rod wrote:

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I
go from here?

Plant a hedge.

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MUADIB® wrote in message . ..
Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

but by all means try some conversation first.




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It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its.
Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours
and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News



First, I wouldn't just let this go, as adverse possession laws may
apply if you allow it to continue unchallenged and why should you put
up with this, it's your property. Since you tried reasoning with him,
I'd suggest getting your lawyer to send the neighbor a letter,
explaining it's your property and you simply want him to stay off it.
After that, if he still continues, I'd make sure there are clear
markers in the ground and then, if he's mowing on your property, go
out and take pictures of him doing it. If he does it again, then I'd
take pictures and this time call the police. They will respond and
talk to him. If that doesn't work, next time I'd call the police and
file a trespass complaint.

Get a can of fluorescent orange paint. Mark the boundary.
Keep it up. It won't hurt the grass. He'll eventually catch
on.

Did you ever hear of Adverse Possession, you better learn. He is caring
for "his "property in the eyes of the court. You need to stop him, put
up some plants and take care of Your property. Has he put up plants or a
part fence ? They must go. Yes I know about this, Im in court with a
%$#@ ^&*% suing me. Write him a letter certified mail stating he MAY
continue to mow if he does so at the proper height and that he has your
permission to walk there, this will stop his Easement rights. He must
aknowledge the letter and sign it . Learn at FreeAdvise.com

Then again he could be innocent and ignorant. Be carefull or you will
have a mess and an enemy on your hands. Bushes and plants are the
quiet way of stopping him.

In article ,
wrote:

[snip]

"Good fences make good neighbors"
proverb in "Mending Wall" by Robert Frost

On 14 Sep 2004 21:21:58 GMT, Ed Clarke wrote:

| In article ,
| wrote:
|
| [snip]
|
| "Good fences make good neighbors"
| proverb in "Mending Wall" by Robert Frost
|
Actually, that's what the *neighbor* says in "Mending Wall." The poet
is disputing this. The whole point of the poem is "Something there is
that doesn't love a wall."

I think Frost meant walls make better neighbors than fences. :+)


Tom Miller wrote:
On 14 Sep 2004 21:21:58 GMT, Ed Clarke wrote:


| In article ,
| wrote:
|
| [snip]
|
| "Good fences make good neighbors"
| proverb in "Mending Wall" by Robert Frost
|

Actually, that's what the *neighbor* says in "Mending Wall." The poet
is disputing this. The whole point of the poem is "Something there is
that doesn't love a wall."

Chet Hayes wrote:
Phisherman wrote in message . ..

I would either ignore the situation or plant a hedge. I'd prefer not
"making waves" with neighbors.


You have heard of adverse possession, haven't you? The laws vary from
state to state, but basicly, if someone does what this neighbor is
doing and it meets certain conditions, like it's open, notorious,
hostile, (sounds to me like he's met those criteria) done for a long
enough time, etc., then that person can have a legal claim to the
property. At the very least, if he wants to allow it to continue,
then he should get a legal opinion. But if it were me, I see nothing
wrong with standing up for my rights and keeping someone else off
property I own.

Adverse possesion can occur, but I have never heard of it being applied
in a sub-division with suburban sized lots. Such lots are relatively
small and easily defined. It would be impractical and almost impossible
for someone to grab 5 feet here and 10 feet there from such a lot.
Adverse possesion occurs in rural and sometimes industrially zoned areas
almost entirely. If someone is using a piece of another's land for a
long enough time with the real owner making no attept to enforce his
rights then occasionally that used portion of the land can become the
possesion of the person using it. This does not happen in suburban lots
even if some guy mows his neighbor's lawn for 50 years.....

"Rod" wrote in message
...
How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest
of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built 30
yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me would
mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide
with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The
one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage. Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards but
they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like
keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not the
center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up
less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one started
mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard. The
other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I
said he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a
couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I
had the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this guy
is one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in age,
set in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in
the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over onto
my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their
places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just
rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40
ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence
the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go
from
here?

Blow a hit of pot smoke in his face and just hope for civil war so you
can legally kill the goddaMNED *******.
This is a squatters technique that the government aides in using against
people who do not fit to the dictations of the tyrants who rule the
police states.
I had a neighbor that put a driveway on my property. I complained to the
government and they hit me with a baseball bat.
But I cannot do anything about it because George Bush and the secret
service already kidnapped me, drugged me and planted a microchip in my
back.
My family started the us military and the solution Grandpa Bomb had with
George Washington to blow the hell out of them and send them back to
Britian.

**** em in their christian jew cop asses.

"m Ransley" wrote in message
...
Did you ever hear of Adverse Possession, you better learn. He is
caring
for "his "property in the eyes of the court. You need to stop him, put
up some plants and take care of Your property. Has he put up plants or
a
part fence ? They must go. Yes I know about this, Im in court with a
%$#@ ^&*% suing me. Write him a letter certified mail stating he MAY
continue to mow if he does so at the proper height and that he has
your
permission to walk there, this will stop his Easement rights. He must
aknowledge the letter and sign it . Learn at FreeAdvise.com

Then again he could be innocent and ignorant. Be carefull or you will
have a mess and an enemy on your hands. Bushes and plants are the
quiet way of stopping him.

Civil war is the only answer available.

Only the strong will survive.

Exterminate the christian jew cop government.

"FurPaw" wrote in message
...
Rod wrote:


Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just
rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40
ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence
the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I
go from
here?

If you can't dissuade the neighbor from mowing your lawn and can't put
up a fence, what about planting a hedge just inside your property
line?
Or a line of fast-growing trees? Or a vegetable or flower or rock
garden?

FurPaw

FICUS Bushes ruin grass the best.

Civil War 2004



--

"Like the reason a dog
Has so many friends
He wags his tail
Instead of his tongue" - Aerosmith

To reply, unleash the dog

"George Wenzel" wrote in message
...
In article ,

says...
Hard to say for sure, but why not try a pre-emptive strike. Mow
your lawn
before he gets out there and perhaps he won't bother doing it again.

If the neighbour is mowing the lawn shorter, then he'll probably
re-mow
the lawn anyway.

Before planting anything or calling a lawyer, I'd suggest talking to
the
neighbour again and being firm and direct - politely tell him that you

Criminology you moron. Goddamned where did you get your edumacation? The
bible?

Civil war is the best response to get the freedom and respect we
deserve.

Death to the christian jew cop government.
blah blah blah christian jew cop psychobabble.

George Wenzel, B.A. (Criminology)
E-mail: lid
E-mail address is munged. Instead of dot invalid, use dot net

"127.0.0.1" get.rooted@localhost wrote in message
k.net...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Rod" wrote in message

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling
him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a
couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out
I had
the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my
yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property.

Hard to say for sure, but why not try a pre-emptive strike. Mow
your
lawn
before he gets out there and perhaps he won't bother doing it again.

You could put a few plantings in to define the property line for a
BIG
hint.


Just the opposite...
the OP should fertilize and water the section being mowed so it grows
faster
than the neigthbor can mow it...

redundant.

Pour grass killer on 10-12 feet of his property to see how he likes it
and hope for civil war so he could legally kill the christian jew cop
squatter.

The justice system is inept.

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
.. .
MUADIB® wrote in
:

Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause
it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors
mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has
plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

This has to be the worst advice on this topic to date.
If he or someone else were to be injured from striking a rebar he
planted,he could be jailed,and severely fined,perhaps even lose his
home.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Civil war is the best answer to rid the jew squatter problem.

voodoo disease 666

"Chet Hayes" wrote in message
om...
MUADIB® wrote in message
. ..
Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause
it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors
mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has
plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

but by all means try some conversation first.




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It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it
is. If you don't, it's its.
Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's
ours, and likewise yours
and theirs. -- Oxford University Press, Edpress News



First, I wouldn't just let this go, as adverse possession laws may
apply if you allow it to continue unchallenged and why should you put
up with this, it's your property. Since you tried reasoning with him,
I'd suggest getting your lawyer to send the neighbor a letter,

And support the jew court system?
Bull.

voodoo disease 666


explaining it's your property and you simply want him to stay off it.
After that, if he still continues, I'd make sure there are clear
markers in the ground and then, if he's mowing on your property, go
out and take pictures of him doing it. If he does it again, then I'd
take pictures and this time call the police. They will respond and

Police suck. They are equal to dogs which is why they work together.


talk to him. If that doesn't work, next time I'd call the police and
file a trespass complaint.

voodoo disease 666

"George Wenzel" wrote in message
...
In article , trader4
@optonline.net says...
I'd make sure there are clear
markers in the ground and then, if he's mowing on your property, go
out and take pictures of him doing it. If he does it again, then I'd
take pictures and this time call the police. They will respond and
talk to him.

No, they probably won't. Property-line disputes are civil matters,
not
criminal ones. The police have FAR better things to do than worry
about
neighbours who mow each other's lawns.


Yea like what my **** consists of.

Death to the christian jew cop government


Regards,

George Wenzel
--
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In article , Phisherman says...

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:59:08 -0400, wrote:

Get a can of fluorescent orange paint. Mark the boundary.
Keep it up. It won't hurt the grass. He'll eventually catch
on.

That should work and a good idea. See if he stays off the line.
Remember you are trying to break someone's habit--sometimes not an
easy thing to do!

The hedge seems to be the best idea. You can tell your neighbor you
plan on installing a hedge to help define the property line. Be sure
you plant the hedge inside your property and not on the line (unless
your neighbor agrees). But, I would not mention the hedge to the
neighbor unless you really plan to do it if he does not comply.

I've considered this (have one set of unfriendly neighbors), but then I would
need to leave space to go over and trim the hedge - no? Then I'd have to
maintain that....

Banty

Banty wrote:

In article , Phisherman says...


On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:59:08 -0400, wrote:



Get a can of fluorescent orange paint. Mark the boundary.
Keep it up. It won't hurt the grass. He'll eventually catch
on.


That should work and a good idea. See if he stays off the line.
Remember you are trying to break someone's habit--sometimes not an
easy thing to do!

The hedge seems to be the best idea. You can tell your neighbor you
plan on installing a hedge to help define the property line. Be sure
you plant the hedge inside your property and not on the line (unless
your neighbor agrees). But, I would not mention the hedge to the
neighbor unless you really plan to do it if he does not comply.



I've considered this (have one set of unfriendly neighbors), but then I would
need to leave space to go over and trim the hedge - no? Then I'd have to
maintain that....

Banty

The OP has stated that he is not allowed to build a fence. How about a
stone wall a foot or two high? Or even cheaper, how about a single line
of rectangular concrete paving stones running along the property line
with the tops flush with the ground? Kinda like a very narrow walkway.
Since the stones will prevent grass growing at the line, there would be
no need for the neighbor to mow beyond the stones and would provide a
visual line of demarcation.

Rod wrote:
How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest
of neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built
30 yrs ago.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I
go from here?

"NO TRESSPASSING" sign. $3.00.

"Yankee Rebel" wrote in message news:...

"Rod" wrote in message
...
How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood.
Rest
of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built
30
yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me
would
mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide
with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The
one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.
Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards
but
they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like
keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not
the
center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up
less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one
started
mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard.
The
other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I
said he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling
him
"just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a
couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I
had the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my
yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this
guy
is one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in
age,
set in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in
the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over
onto
my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their
places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just
rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40
ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence
the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I
go
from
here?

Blow a hit of pot smoke in his face and just hope for civil war so you
can legally kill the goddaMNED *******.
This is a squatters technique that the government aides in using
against
people who do not fit to the dictations of the tyrants who rule the
police states.
I had a neighbor that put a driveway on my property. I complained to
the
government and they hit me with a baseball bat.
But I cannot do anything about it because George Bush and the secret
service already kidnapped me, drugged me and planted a microchip in my
back.
My family started the us military and the solution Grandpa Bomb had
with
George Washington to blow the hell out of them and send them back to
Britian.

**** em in their christian jew cop asses.

Banty wrote:

In article , Phisherman says...

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 15:59:08 -0400, wrote:


Get a can of fluorescent orange paint. Mark the boundary.
Keep it up. It won't hurt the grass. He'll eventually catch
on.

That should work and a good idea. See if he stays off the line.
Remember you are trying to break someone's habit--sometimes not an
easy thing to do!

The hedge seems to be the best idea. You can tell your neighbor you
plan on installing a hedge to help define the property line. Be sure
you plant the hedge inside your property and not on the line (unless
your neighbor agrees). But, I would not mention the hedge to the
neighbor unless you really plan to do it if he does not comply.


I've considered this (have one set of unfriendly neighbors), but then I would
need to leave space to go over and trim the hedge - no? Then I'd have to
maintain that....

You could put the hedge in a mulched bed that borders the property, but
allows you room at the edge of the bed to maintain the hedge and renew
the mulch periodically.

Or you could plant something that grows slowly, tall and narrow, like
arbor vitae, which needs no pruning.

FurPaw
--
"In a sense, we are hallucinating all the time.
What we call normal vision is our selecting the
hallucination that best fits reality."
- V. S. Ramachandran

To reply, unleash the dog

"George Wenzel" wrote in message
...
In article , trader4
@optonline.net says...
Unless he agrees? Why look for more trouble. Here you have an
unreasonable neighbor trespassing after being told not to, so why in
the world would you tell someone to even consider planting a hedge to
be shared with the neighbor?

The neighbour was NOT told not to trespass. The neighbour was asked
to
raise his mower when he came on to the property.

I think the first step, before anything else, is to speak to the
neighbour and CLEARLY specify what is wanted - that the neighbour NOT
mow
the lawn past the property line. All the other suggestions (hedge,
lawyer's letter, minefield, whatever) should come after this basic
first
step. No sense assuming that the neighbour won't be reasonable until
they've been asked, in a clear and concise manner, to abide by the
property line.


WE told that to King George in the 18th century.
WE had to send Ben Franklin to France to get them to help my family
dying of starvation at Valley Forge by you rich loyalist tax sucking
maggots.

CIVIL WAR 2004


Regards,

George Wenzel
--
George Wenzel, B.A. (Criminology)

Criminology my ass. Where did you get your edumacation? The Bible?

E-mail: lid
E-mail address is munged. Instead of dot invalid, use dot net

"m Ransley" strikes again! Nothing useful OR authoritative...just drivel
for the sake of a post.

"m Ransley" wrote in message
...
Did you ever hear of Adverse Possession, you better learn. He is caring
for "his "property in the eyes of the court. You need to stop him, put
up some plants and take care of Your property. Has he put up plants or a
part fence ? They must go. Yes I know about this, Im in court with a
%$#@ ^&*% suing me. Write him a letter certified mail stating he MAY
continue to mow if he does so at the proper height and that he has your
permission to walk there, this will stop his Easement rights. He must
aknowledge the letter and sign it . Learn at FreeAdvise.com

Then again he could be innocent and ignorant. Be carefull or you will
have a mess and an enemy on your hands. Bushes and plants are the
quiet way of stopping him.

In article , "Joe Fabeitz" wrote:
"m Ransley" strikes again! Nothing useful OR authoritative...just drivel
for the sake of a post.

And of course you had to quote all of it. If it hadn't been for you, I would
never have seen it. Thanks for nothing.

Just killfile Ransley. I think nearly everyone else here already has.

Hey, just trying to "cleanse" the group. But you're right. Next time I'll
clip

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
m...
In article , "Joe Fabeitz"
wrote:
"m Ransley" strikes again! Nothing useful OR authoritative...just drivel
for the sake of a post.

And of course you had to quote all of it. If it hadn't been for you, I
would
never have seen it. Thanks for nothing.

Just killfile Ransley. I think nearly everyone else here already has.

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:50:38 GMT, "Rod" wrote:

How would you handle this?

We've lived here 17 yrs, rather a "newbie" in the neighborhood. Rest of
neighbors pretty much lived in the area since the homes were built 30 yrs
ago.

This concerns lot boundaries. The neighbors on both sides of me would mow
close to the center between the houses. My house is just 44 ft wide with
garage in front. on a 88 ft wide lot. All lots are 88 ft wide. The one
neighbors house is 36 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage. Other
neighbor is 33 ft wide with a 21 ft side attached garage.

Both neighbors like to mow super short which burns out their yards but they
don't have to mow but once a week or bi-weekly this way. I like keeping my
grass tall and mow twice a week.

I finally had a survey done, of course the boundary lines are not the center
between the houses. I have more side yard because my house takes up less
space.

Both neighbors seen the survey stakes and iron pipe. The one started mowing
where his property leaves off instead of mowing part of my yard. The other
neighbor continues to mow down the center. I wouldn't care but as I said he
mows so cotton picken short he burns out my grass.

I approached him and tried to make light of the subject by telling him "just
keep coming over so I don't have to mow any side yard". After a couple
times of him just continuing going down the center, I pointed out I had the
property surveyed and would appreciate if he was going to mow my yard,
please raise his mower when he comes onto my property. Now, this guy is one
of the originals in the neighborhood. Kinda getting up there in age, set in
his ways etc. Don't know if he feels he has seniority for living in the
neighborhood or what the problem is. He mows about 10-12 ft over onto my
property. The whole neighborhood pretty much takes care of their places,
except for the ones that mow so short dirt starts flying.

Oh, my neighborhood you can't put a fence up out front or side, just rear
property fencing, which is from rear of house back. I sit with a 40 ft
frontage, 26 ft wide on a 190' depth. I really don't want to fence the back
yard.

I got the survey to ease my mind, I've asked nicely, now where do I go from
here?



There is nothing else you can do to "be nice" with your prick
neighbor! Many low IQ human beings just totally walk all over other
peoples rights! Now you must decide...do you want to **** him off and
continue living next to him?

Here's an idea! Pull twine between your two property stakes on his
side of your property. Carefully go down the line and use fluoresent
orange marker spray paint to illustrate for him the property line.
This should solve the problem the next time he cuts the grass! If he
still comes over the line to cut the grass, get a witness to go with
you to confront the *******. Ask him a pointed question..."Why in the
hell do you continue coming on my property and cutting the grass?"
Why?

No matter what his response, tell him this is the last time you are
going to warn him not to come on your yard to mow the grass. This is
the tricky part...if he makes a threat against you have a witness on
hand to hear what he said. This will enable you to get a judgement
against him for your trouble if you have to take him to court.

Just in case you need it, have your 357 Magnum nearby. Do not threaten
him but it's amazing how fast you will get his attention if that Smith
& Wesson is pointed right between his eyes...just say halt or I'll
shoot you! Even low IQ persons understand how fast they will die after
being shot.

I hope you don't have to go that far but you never can tell.

Regards,
Bill

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:14:46 GMT, MUADIB®
wrote:

Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

but by all means try some conversation first.


This is the best idea I have seen!

Bill

I had a similar issue, and planted a line of small evergreens. Rocks would
probably work too, come to think of it. But the rebar wouldn't pull out..I
like that one.

"Bill" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:14:46 GMT, MUADIB®
wrote:

Conversation is best. Making sure your neighbor is aware that your
yard is important to you, not just that you are taking over cause it's
yours..............that kinda thing.

If negotiaitions fail then buy some 3/4" re-bar and make some strong
stakes to put up, string them for a while and make sure you put them
in just far enough that your mower clears them and the neighbors mower
will not

If he ruins his mower it's his fault.

Hell, red flag 'em for a couple of months too. make sure he has plenty
of "signs" to read each time he mows so he can have a chance to get
the message.It's your yard.

but by all means try some conversation first.


This is the best idea I have seen!

Bill

"mark" writes:
But the rebar wouldn't pull out..I like that one.
actually you'd be suprised.

I use rebar as stakes for our pavilion (tent) and while they hold
really really well while in place and under tension, they come out with
ease when it is time to pack.

I've used anything from 1/2"x24" to 1"x36+" (which did require a knock
or two with a sledge to remove).


--
be safe.
flip
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Philip Lewis wrote in message . edu...
"mark" writes:
But the rebar wouldn't pull out..I like that one.
actually you'd be suprised.

I use rebar as stakes for our pavilion (tent) and while they hold
really really well while in place and under tension, they come out with
ease when it is time to pack.

I've used anything from 1/2"x24" to 1"x36+" (which did require a knock
or two with a sledge to remove).



Putting rebar in the ground in this situation is a very bad idea.
Being short, at least partially hidden in the grass, they are an
accident waiting to happen. Someone walking along could very easily
trip, land on the rebar, and seriously injure themselves.