Well, this is sort of obvious, once you think about it, but who has time
to think about it in advance:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dae302596 ac3
The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically
optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still
not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in
the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The
Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to
account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to
rage among those who haven’t received a shot.



“Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,” the state’s
secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. “For those who are
unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced
message is getting to our community.” He's being generous when he
calls that nuance. If the rate of pregnancy were higher among women
then men, would understanding that be a nuance?

On 5/21/2021 1:48 PM, micky wrote:
Well, this is sort of obvious, once you think about it, but who has time
to think about it in advance:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dae302596 ac3
The countrys declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically
optimistic perspective for half of the nation €” the half that is still
not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in
the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The
Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to
account for that €” and found that in some places, the virus continues to
rage among those who havent received a shot.



€œThings are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,€� the states
secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. €œFor those who are
unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced
message is getting to our community.€� He's being generous when he
calls that nuance. If the rate of pregnancy were higher among women
then men, would understanding that be a nuance?


The Fauci-19 virus is an impotent limp dick.

Unless you are old, fat and insulin resistant, why risk taking an experimental blood clot shot for something so benign?

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 21 May 2021 14:35:22 -0400, Maskless
Sociopath wrote:

On 5/21/2021 1:48 PM, micky wrote:
Well, this is sort of obvious, once you think about it, but who has time
to think about it in advance:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dae302596 ac3
The country’s declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically
optimistic perspective for half of the nation — the half that is still
not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in
the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The
Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to
account for that — and found that in some places, the virus continues to
rage among those who haven’t received a shot.



“Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,” the state’s
secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. “For those who are
unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced
message is getting to our community.” He's being generous when he
calls that nuance. If the rate of pregnancy were higher among women
then men, would understanding that be a nuance?


The Fauci-19 virus is an impotent limp dick.

You're so eloquent. I consider anyone who relies on vulgarities to be
childish, stupid, and to have worthless opinions.

Unless you are old, fat and insulin resistant, why risk taking an experimental blood clot shot for something so benign?

And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson. Do you
understand that a Ford is not a Chevy and Moderna is not J&J? Of the
18, they were all women? Are you a woman? You sound like one.

They were all women between iirc 24 and 39. You sound like a crotchety
old woman, maybe 80 years old. And of the 18, 2 were verrry serious, 1
fatal and I didn't hear about the other one. Most were not serious but
there may have been some in the middle. Until I'm a woman under 40
signed up for J&J, I'm not going to spend much time checking out what
happened to the other 16.

Why makes you try so hard to spread your falsehoods? Were you a
difficult child? Have you tried psychoanalysis? If you do, please
post the reports. I'd be very interested.

On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.

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18 Reasons I won't be vaccinated -- https://tinyurl.com/ebty2dx3
Covid vaccines: experimental biology -- https://tinyurl.com/57mncfm5
The fraud of "Climate Change" -- https://RealClimateScience.com
Don't talk to cops! -- https://DontTalkToCops.com
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On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 5:30:34 PM UTC-4, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.
It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


That's all wrong. The first people were vaccinated over a year ago in the phase
one trials. That was followed by phase two trials and then phase three trials
with tens of thousands vaccinated early last fall. All have been followed closely.
The results for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have been exceptional, effective
beyond anyone's expectations, 95% reduction in symptomatic infection, close to
zero deaths from Covid, very few hospitalizations. On the other side of the
ledger we have 600K Americans dead. That makes vaccination an easy decision
for anyone with any sense at all.

On 5/21/2021 7:06 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On the other side of the
ledger we have 600K Americans dead.


The average age of death is 82 years old.

The average age of death of a covid patient is 82 years old.

The average of death of a person with gray hair is 82 years old. Do you think it would help if you dyed your hair?

trader_4 writes:
On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 5:30:34 PM UTC-4, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.
It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


That's all wrong.

Of course it is. It's rodger blakee who, for the last two decades,
has been advocating murdering over half the citizens of the USA.

A fruitcake's fruitcake.

"Roger Blake" wrote in message
...
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to
"prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.

Great, hopefully that will kill you and there will be one less stupid.

On Sat, 22 May 2021 14:46:50 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On 5/21/2021 5:30 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


You need to appreciate relative risk. The risk of getting a blood clot
complication from an mRNA vaccine is far lower than the risk of getting
a serious/fatal case of COVID. Besides, please define your criterion
for "enough time"; and how is 0/150,000,000 an unsafe track record?

On 5/22/2021 10:01 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/21/2021 5:30 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected.** There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to
"prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in
the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


You need to appreciate relative risk.* The risk of getting a blood clot
complication from an mRNA vaccine is far lower than the risk of getting
a serious/fatal case of COVID.* Besides, please define your criterion
for "enough time"; and how is 0/150,000,000 an unsafe track record?

There is risk in everything. I have also mentioned that clots are a
common risk killing more people than breast cancer. One nearly did me
in over 20 years ago and had to be surgically removed. The surgeon told
me his father died from a clot.

Covid itself presents a higher clot risk than the vaccine and apparently
are common so if he wants to get his clots from covid that is his choice.

On 5/22/2021 7:01 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/21/2021 5:30 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected.** There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to
"prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in
the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


You need to appreciate relative risk.* The risk of getting a blood clot
complication from an mRNA vaccine is far lower than the risk of getting
a serious/fatal case of COVID.* Besides, please define your criterion
for "enough time"; and how is 0/150,000,000 an unsafe track record?

The chance of a blood clot from covid is WAY higher than the risk from
the vaccine.

In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 22 May 2021 10:01:55 -0400, Retirednoguilt
wrote:

On 5/21/2021 5:30 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.


You need to appreciate relative risk. The risk of getting a blood clot
complication from an mRNA vaccine is far lower than the risk of getting
a serious/fatal case of COVID. Besides, please define your criterion
for "enough time"; and how is 0/150,000,000 an unsafe track record?

I'm 74 now and I think I'll wait 40 more years to get vaccinated. We
should have good data by then.

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:02:02 AM UTC-4, Retirednoguilt wrote:
On 5/21/2021 5:30 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2021-05-21, micky wrote:
And there you go, proving what I expected. There have been 150,000,000
-- One hundred fifty million vaccinations -- and NO blood clots for
Moderna or Pfizer, and only about 18 for Johnson and Johnson.

It has only been a few months. The idea that this is enough time to "prove"
these experimental, non-approved vaccines are "safe" is nonsensical in the
extreme. I won't be vaccinated any time soon.

You need to appreciate relative risk. The risk of getting a blood clot
complication from an mRNA vaccine is far lower than the risk of getting
a serious/fatal case of COVID. Besides, please define your criterion
for "enough time"; and how is 0/150,000,000 an unsafe track record?

+1

The problem with appreciating the relative risk is that the Covid deniers claim
there is very little risk, it's just the flu, it's only people in their 80s in poor health
that wind up hospitalized and dead, there aren't 600K dead, etc, etc, etc.

On 5/21/2021 11:35 AM, Maskless Sociopath wrote:
On 5/21/2021 1:48 PM, micky wrote:
Well, this is sort of obvious, once you think about it, but who has time
to think about it in advance:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dae302596 ac3

The countrys declining covid-19 case rates present an unrealistically
optimistic perspective for half of the nation €” the half that is still
not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly in
the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population. So The
Washington Post adjusted its case, death and hospitalization rates to
account for that €” and found that in some places, the virus continues to
rage among those who havent received a shot.



€œThings are getting safer for those who are vaccinated,€� the states
secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. €œFor those who are
unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that nuanced
message is getting to our community.€�Â*Â* He's being generous when he
calls that nuance.Â*Â* If the rate of pregnancy were higher among women
then men, would understanding that be a nuance?


The Fauci-19 virus is an impotent limp dick.

Your limp dick is just one of the results of catching covid

micky wrote

Well, this is sort of obvious, once you think about
it, but who has time to think about it in advance:

Me. We have only had 3 cases of covid in my town,
2 came off the Ruby Princess and one flew in from
Sydney and went back by car when he got his test
result back after being tested in Sydney before flying.

None of those infected anyone and all recovered fine.

So while I can have the AstraZeneca any time I like,
I would prefer to have the Pfizer because it works
better and much quicker and has no CVT or PVT risk.
But currently only those under 50 can have that because
we don't have anything like as much of the Pfizer. We
make a million dozes a week of the AstraZeneca and
will be making one of the mRNA vaccines sometime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...dae302596 ac3

The country's declining covid-19 case rates present
an unrealistically optimistic perspective for half of the
nation - the half that is still not vaccinated.

As more people receive vaccines, covid-19 cases are occurring mostly
in the increasingly narrow slice of the unprotected population.

We have almost no community transmission at all, just
a very occasional escape from hotel quarantine from
an infected new arrival in the country, almost exclusively
returning citizens. Those involved in moving them from
the airport to quarantine and running the quarantine
hotels etc are getting the Pfizer and will soon not be
able to work in those unvaccinated.

So The Washington Post adjusted its case, death
and hospitalization rates to account for that - and
found that in some places, the virus continues to
rage among those who haven't received a shot.

"Things are getting safer for those who are vaccinated," the state's
secretary of health, Umair A. Shah, told The Post. "For those who
are unvaccinated, they remain at risk. We have to make sure that
nuanced message is getting to our community." He's being
generous when he calls that nuance. If the rate of pregnancy were
higher among women then men, would understanding that be a nuance?

"Who or What is Rod Speed?

Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing "the big, hard
man" on the InterNet."
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/r...-faq.2973853/t

--
Marland revealing the senile sociopath's pathology:
"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from you boring them
to death."
MID: