" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.

On 4/11/2021 8:42 PM, wrote:

" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.


Reinforces what I've figured of most of those people. I do read some
Amazon reviews about a specific feature but still have to be careful.
I've seen poor rating for reasons like "the UPS guy dropped the box" or
{I ordered the wrong color"

On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 21:18:53 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 4/11/2021 8:42 PM, wrote:

" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.


Reinforces what I've figured of most of those people. I do read some
Amazon reviews about a specific feature but still have to be careful.
I've seen poor rating for reasons like "the UPS guy dropped the box" or
{I ordered the wrong color"


Reviews for _the wrong product_ give me a laugh ...
John T.

On 04/11/2021 07:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/11/2021 8:42 PM, wrote:

" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.


Reinforces what I've figured of most of those people. I do read some
Amazon reviews about a specific feature but still have to be careful.
I've seen poor rating for reasons like "the UPS guy dropped the box" or
{I ordered the wrong color"

Last week I wrote a cat food review for Blue Wilderness. The cat would
eat the salmon but wouldn't touch the chicken or duck. I put the stuff
on the deck. There are several cats in the neighborhood that cruise
around looking for food. No takers. I've verified with a game camera
that there is a skunk and a raccoon that prowl around. No takers.

Anyway I figured this stuff must really suck, so I looked at the
reviews. Most were one star citing the same problem. Somehow though the
top line had 4 1/2 stars.

I have seen some reviews like 'I haven't used X yet but it looks really
cool.'

Still, taking the online reviews with a grain of salt and seeking out
more than one, they are more helpful than things like Consumer Reports.
I used to look at their reviews of things I know nothing about like
digital cameras. Then I realized that for thing where I did have
knowledge the reports recommended plain vanilla safe bets.

Cars are a good example. For expensive cars they would conclude 'you
could buy two Honda Civics'. For cheap cars, 'you would be better off
with a used Honda Civic'. For equal priced cars the spinner always
stopped on Honda Civic.

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On 4/11/21 9:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/11/2021 8:42 PM, wrote:

"Â* It must be goodÂ*Â* -Â*Â* the pretty lady in the online review
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* wouldn't lie,Â*Â* would sheÂ* ..Â* ?Â* "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

Â*Â*Â*Â* John T.


Reinforces what I've figured of most of those people.Â* I do read some
Amazon reviews about a specific feature but still have to be careful.
I've seen poor rating for reasons like "the UPS guy dropped the box" or
{I ordered the wrong color"

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...

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On 4/13/21 10:00 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:

[snip]

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...

Once I ordered a little tube of CPU grease, that I got a week late.
According to the post office, it was delivered on time but to the wrong
address. It took someone a week to notice they got something they
shouldn't have.

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Mark Lloyd writes:
On 4/13/21 10:00 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:

[snip]

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...

Once I ordered a little tube of CPU grease, that I got a week late.
According to the post office, it was delivered on time but to the wrong
address. It took someone a week to notice they got something they
shouldn't have.

Or, perhaps they were out of town.

Or maybe they don't check their mail every day.

On 4/13/21 12:29 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 4/13/21 10:00 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:

[snip]

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...

Once I ordered a little tube of CPU grease, that I got a week late.
According to the post office, it was delivered on time but to the wrong
address. It took someone a week to notice they got something they
shouldn't have.

Had a similar experience years ago ordering a fairly expensive watch
from Overstock.com (who was, bless their heart, quick to send out a
replacement when I had first complained).

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In article , says...

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...




I always hate the reviews that degrade the product due to either
shipping or the suplier not being that great. Too bad that the
reviewers do not rate the shipping and supliers seperte from the actual
product. Another bad rating is if you get something that is damaged or
defective on arriavle.

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.

She's just telling fishin' stories.

Actually, isn't she breaking some law when she claims to be some sort of
licensed professional? Or maybe the professions she claimed don't require licensing?

On 4/13/2021 1:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.

She's just telling fishin' stories.

Actually, isn't she breaking some law when she claims to be some sort of
licensed professional? Or maybe the professions she claimed don't require licensing?


Problem with her, she said she actually used the product. I've seen
commercials for local car dealers and the same exact commercial and
spokes person was toughing the benefits of buying from the local dealer.
The difference, he never said he actually bought and used the product.
In PA it is Bob's Ford, in VA it is Fred's Ford, etc. Makes for low
production cost.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.

She's just telling fishin' stories.

Actually, isn't she breaking some law when she claims to be some sort of
licensed professional? Or maybe the professions she claimed don't require licensing?


After the TV show's investigations - she was removed
from the review-for-hire web site ; and they posted a small
disclaimer that the "reviewers" were actors hired by the
product/service company.
... which might let her off-the-hook retroactively ?
Shysters be shysters - I strongly suspect that this one just
created a different ID and bought a few wigs and make-up.
John T.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 14:09:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 4/13/2021 1:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:40:41 PM UTC-5, wrote:
" It must be good - the pretty lady in the online review
wouldn't lie, would she .. ? "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyfhGHX0Vg

John T.

She's just telling fishin' stories.

Actually, isn't she breaking some law when she claims to be some sort of
licensed professional? Or maybe the professions she claimed don't require licensing?


Problem with her, she said she actually used the product.



Seriously ... _that's_ the problem with her ? Duh.
.. she tells major bare-faced lies about her medical credentials
and academic credentials and employment and pretty-much
_ everything _ ... but the REAL problem is her white-lie
about actually using the product/service ...
John T.

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

I like the reviews that down-rate the product or the seller because a
timely-shipped package was delayed for several days by the post office...




I always hate the reviews that degrade the product due to either
shipping or the suplier not being that great. Too bad that the
reviewers do not rate the shipping and supliers seperte from the actual
product.

Ebay does. But its product reviews are done
much worse than the amazon reviews are.

Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:29:00 -0500, Mark Lloyd posted for all of us to
digest...


Once I ordered a little tube of CPU grease, that I got a week late.
According to the post office, it was delivered on time but to the wrong
address. It took someone a week to notice they got something they
shouldn't have.


You didn't get all hot & bothered?

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 14:09:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


Problem with her, she said she actually used the product. I've seen
commercials for local car dealers and the same exact commercial and
spokes person was toughing the benefits of buying from the local dealer.
The difference, he never said he actually bought and used the product.
In PA it is Bob's Ford, in VA it is Fred's Ford, etc. Makes for low
production cost.



Reminds me of "Better call Saul"

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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message


Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.


Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became widely available.
The main issue with using online reviews is you have to have enough of them, and use your
judgement in reading them. Obviously, you don't pay any attention to reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you, or down-rated it because
of random shipping issues. If shipping is a chronic complaint, it's a real issue.
When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts exclusively from Newegg.
The reviews for the MB I bought - Asus Hero VII - were mediocre at best. But so were ALL
the other reviews of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer. But the main problem
was DOA's that reduced the scores. I surmised that the bulk of the DOA complaints was
simply user incompetence, so I ordered anyway. The MB has been flawless.
The quality probably increased as number of reviews increased, but I never checked.
Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews on that MB than Newegg, but I didn't look.
I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it somehow has developed a "culture"
for reviewing products. I know I have reviewed by far more Amazon products that anywhere
else. On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."
Just some of my thoughts on it.

On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message


Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.


Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became widely available.
The main issue with using online reviews is you have to have enough of them, and use your
judgement in reading them. Obviously, you don't pay any attention to reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you, or down-rated it because
of random shipping issues. If shipping is a chronic complaint, it's a real issue.
When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts exclusively from Newegg.
The reviews for the MB I bought - Asus Hero VII - were mediocre at best. But so were ALL
the other reviews of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer. But the main problem
was DOA's that reduced the scores. I surmised that the bulk of the DOA complaints was
simply user incompetence, so I ordered anyway. The MB has been flawless.
The quality probably increased as number of reviews increased, but I never checked.
Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews on that MB than Newegg, but I didn't look.
I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it somehow has developed a "culture"
for reviewing products. I know I have reviewed by far more Amazon products that anywhere
else. On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."
Just some of my thoughts on it.


Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with the
results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

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Vic Smith wrote
Ralph Mowery wrote

Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.

Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became
widely available. The main issue with using online reviews is you have
to have enough of them, and use your judgement in reading them.
Obviously, you don't pay any attention to reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you,
or down-rated it because of random shipping issues. If shipping
is a chronic complaint, it's a real issue.

When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts
exclusively from Newegg. The reviews for the MB I bought - Asus
Hero VII - were mediocre at best. But so were ALL the other reviews
of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer.

Yeah, found the same problem deciding which external 8TB
hard drive to buy, both the candidates had similar reviews.

But the main problem was DOA's that reduced the scores.

I ignore the scores and just use the review texts.

I surmised that the bulk of the DOA complaints was simply
user incompetence, so I ordered anyway. The MB has been
flawless. The quality probably increased as number of reviews
increased, but I never checked.

Yeah, I don't bother to check after I have decided which to buy.

Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews
on that MB than Newegg, but I didn't look.

I do generally look at the main review sites.

I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it
somehow has developed a "culture" for reviewing products.

Particularly with books because they do encourage you
to do a review when you finish reading a kindle book.

I know I have reviewed by far more
Amazon products that anywhere else.

Me too, particularly kindle books.

On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."

Havent seen much of that.

Just some of my thoughts on it.

The other problem I find with sites like Consumer Reports
is that they hardly ever have a recent review of what I am
buying and hardly any of the products are buyable when
they do have one product that stands out when I am buying.

"Wade Garrett" wrote in message
...
On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message


Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.


Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became widely
available.
The main issue with using online reviews is you have to have enough of
them, and use your
judgement in reading them. Obviously, you don't pay any attention to
reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you, or
down-rated it because
of random shipping issues. If shipping is a chronic complaint, it's a
real issue.
When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts
exclusively from Newegg.
The reviews for the MB I bought - Asus Hero VII - were mediocre at best.
But so were ALL
the other reviews of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer.
But the main problem
was DOA's that reduced the scores. I surmised that the bulk of the DOA
complaints was
simply user incompetence, so I ordered anyway. The MB has been flawless.
The quality probably increased as number of reviews increased, but I
never checked.
Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews on that MB than Newegg, but I
didn't look.
I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it somehow has
developed a "culture"
for reviewing products. I know I have reviewed by far more Amazon
products that anywhere
else. On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."
Just some of my thoughts on it.

Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major kitchen
appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with the
results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

The problem with that one is that the main component is the
fully integrated pump, water heater etc that if it dies costs
more to replace than buying a whole new Bosch dishwasher.

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On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:18 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:



Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Hell, at least 95% of what I buy isn't reviewed by CR.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with the
results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

Then there's that. You ever ask yourself where's the "scientific testing" that led you to
buy those items?

On 4/14/21 1:49 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Wade Garrett" wrote in message
...
On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message


Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.


Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became widely
available.
The main issue with using online reviews is you have to have enough
of them, and use your
judgement in reading them.Â* Obviously, you don't pay any attention to
reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you, or
down-rated it because
of random shipping issues.Â* If shipping is a chronic complaint, it's
a real issue.
When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts
exclusively from Newegg.
The reviews for the MB I bought -Â* Asus Hero VII - were mediocre at
best. But so were ALL
the other reviews of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer.
But the main problem
was DOA's that reduced the scores.Â* I surmised that the bulk of the
DOA complaints was
simply user incompetence, so I ordered anyway.Â* The MB has been
flawless.
The quality probably increased as number of reviews increased, but I
never checked.
Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews on that MB than Newegg,
but I didn't look.
I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it somehow has
developed a "culture"
for reviewing products.Â* I know I have reviewed by far more Amazon
products that anywhere
else.Â* On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."
Just some of my thoughts on it.

Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with
the results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

The problem with that one is that the main component is the
fully integrated pump, water heater etc that if it dies costs
more to replace than buying a whole new Bosch dishwasher.

Don't do much cooking so I don't run it much- just often enough to keep
the seals pliable...

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On 4/14/21 5:19 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:18 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:



Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Hell, at least 95% of what I buy isn't reviewed by CR.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with the
results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

Then there's that. You ever ask yourself where's the "scientific testing" that led you to
buy those items?

I was really ****ed at them over that episode and stopped subscribing
for several years.

Recently though, I bought a digital subscription just to for the auto
ratings and reliability surveys which are generally pretty accurate.

I would not have paid full price for it- but stumbled across a deal for
a big discount.

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On 04/14/2021 08:46 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

I used to look at the car reviews at the library. No matter what model
or price range they always concluded a Honda Civic was the better choice.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

When I knew something about the products they were reviewing I saw they
were going for the vanilla safe bet. Like the old saying that nobody
ever got fired for buying IBM, they like solid and boring.

I liked Motorcycle Consumer News. They had no advertisements and if
something sucked they pulled no punches. They suddenly shut down iirc,
after 25 years. No warning, just a notice that this was the final issue.
I'm not sure they even told the writers beforehand.

The difference is everybody rode. I never got the impression the CR
people actually used the products they reviewed.

On 04/14/2021 03:19 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 10:46:18 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:



Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Hell, at least 95% of what I buy isn't reviewed by CR.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with the
results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

Then there's that. You ever ask yourself where's the "scientific testing" that led you to
buy those items?


Follow the science! As I said in another post if a MCN writer said the
new MotoGuzzler 1200 was an uncomfortable piece of **** after riding one
for 1000 miles I tended to believe his science.

On 04/14/2021 04:38 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
Recently though, I bought a digital subscription just to for the auto
ratings and reliability surveys which are generally pretty accurate.

In the last 20 years I've driven a Geo Metro and three Toyota Yarises.
CR ****ed on them all.

Note on the yaris: the first one was killed by a kid with a snowplow. I
traded the second, a 2011, in on a 2018 last March. The literally aren't
making them any more and I got a good deal on the leftover 2018.

According to CR they are under powered, noisy, and uncomfortable,
suitable only for city driving. Funny how mine was perfectly happy at 80
mph from here to southern AZ.

On 4/14/2021 9:13 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 04/14/2021 08:46 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

I used to look at the car reviews at the library. No matter what model
or price range they always concluded a Honda Civic was the better choice.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

When I knew something about the products they were reviewing I saw they
were going for the vanilla safe bet. Like the old saying that nobody
ever got fired for buying IBM, they like solid and boring.


I gave up on them 45 years ago. So long I forget the exact circumstances
buy I bought an appliance because of a particular feature. Two months
later CR did a review and recommended not buying it because of that
wasteful feature.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:26:12 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


In the last 20 years I've driven a Geo Metro and three Toyota Yarises.
CR ****ed on them all.

Note on the yaris: the first one was killed by a kid with a snowplow. I
traded the second, a 2011, in on a 2018 last March. The literally aren't
making them any more and I got a good deal on the leftover 2018.

According to CR they are under powered, noisy, and uncomfortable,
suitable only for city driving. Funny how mine was perfectly happy at 80
mph from here to southern AZ.

Just WTF is WRONG with you, you endlessly driveling senile blabbermouth? Do
you really have NOBODY in RL to talk to, like all the other senile morons
that seem to have taken over Usenet over the last years?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:16:09 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:



Follow the science!

I'm afraid we'll have to follow your endless blather instead, senile gossip.
BG

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:22:46 -0400, Wade Garrett posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/14/21 1:49 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


"Wade Garrett" wrote in message
...
On 4/14/21 7:37 AM, Vic Smith wrote:


"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message


Another bad rating is if you get something
that is damaged or defective on arriavle.


Pretty sure online reviews really hurt Consumer Reports subscriptions.
I know I dropped my CR subscription when online reviews became widely
available.
The main issue with using online reviews is you have to have enough
of them, and use your
judgement in reading them.* Obviously, you don't pay any attention to
reviewers who haven't
even used the product, rave about feature that don't interest you, or
down-rated it because
of random shipping issues.* If shipping is a chronic complaint, it's
a real issue.
When I built this computer, in 2015, I ordered my computer parts
exclusively from Newegg.
The reviews for the MB I bought -* Asus Hero VII - were mediocre at
best. But so were ALL
the other reviews of new generation MB's, no matter the manufacturer.
But the main problem
was DOA's that reduced the scores.* I surmised that the bulk of the
DOA complaints was
simply user incompetence, so I ordered anyway.* The MB has been
flawless.
The quality probably increased as number of reviews increased, but I
never checked.
Maybe at that time Amazon had more reviews on that MB than Newegg,
but I didn't look.
I think Amazon has the most accurate reviews because it somehow has
developed a "culture"
for reviewing products.* I know I have reviewed by far more Amazon
products that anywhere
else.* On some sites it seems the bulk of the reviews are "complainers."
Just some of my thoughts on it.

Hard to see how a bunch of jack-leg online reviews could compare with
Consumer Reports' scientific testing or annual auto surveys.

Having said that though, CR really dropped the ball on their major
kitchen appliance reviews and guidance about six or seven years ago.

We did a major kitchen remodel and bought all the new appliances based
primarily on their recommendations. We were quite disappointed with
the results.

Frigidaire top of the line glass-top slide in electric range: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Frigidaire matching top of the line over the range microwave: Dog.
Frigidaire customer no-service- Useless.

Whirlpool top of the line French door refrigerator: Hard to use- and a
reliability issue.

Bosch top of the line dishwasher: Major door leak initially- but after
that, OK.

The problem with that one is that the main component is the
fully integrated pump, water heater etc that if it dies costs
more to replace than buying a whole new Bosch dishwasher.

Don't do much cooking so I don't run it much- just often enough to keep
the seals pliable...

Hey Wade, send me an good email addy. I have a question for you. Thx

--
Tekkie