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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:56:33 -0500, Heywood posted for all of us to digest... On 2/15/2021 3:55 PM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:21:49 -0500, Heywood wrote: On 2/15/2021 2:24 PM, Dean L. Hoffman wrote: ** It isn't mentioned in this article but the wind generators aren't working for what ever reason. Texas is having blackouts. https://newyorknewstimes.com/blackout-as-snow-ice-blanket-and-southern-plains-in-texas/114186/ *** There's an article in the Lincoln Journal-Star about some people in Nebraska being subject to rolling blackouts. I can see ice being a problem on the blades. Someone has to go sweep the solar panels too. It is a problem as most of our society needs electricity to function. The only part not hurt so bad is refrigeration, just put stuff outside. Just think how bad it will be when people's cell phones die and cannot be charged. They will have to actually talk to family members for entertainment. I don't like that. I bought a texting machine to use if there's a power failure here. You can send over 200 texts just from burning one average-sized lump of coal. Just read yesterday they are now making batteries from nuclear waste and they can last for a thousand years. They would go into places where battery change is difficult or impossible, such as medical implants and satellites in space. Wris****ches? -- Tekkie |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:02:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... I remember in one summer the power company wanted us to conserve power. Later they said we conserved too much and wanted a rate increase. I dunno Ralph , Entergy's rates are pretty good - and haven't increased for some time now . We're paying about $.10/Kwhr with all taxes and fees included . Our power here comes from a hydro plant on the White River about 35 miles north of us . IMO they take too wide an easement for the lines - a strip clearcut thru the woods - but then we don't get many lines downed by trees . -- Our rates in NC are about the same. Somewhere around 10 to 12 cents/kwh. OUr electric bill is around $ 150 to $ 200 per month for just the wife and myslef. We have a heat pump for heat and air. Also have our own well. In the city some are paying close to that just for the city water. The power company around here does not do much tree trimming any more, so in areas that have lots of ice they have power outges. Where I am in the country I have not been without power for very long at a time in the 15 years I have been here. We are around 11 cents a KWH bottom line and my bill cruises $190-$210 average. When the A/C is off it is less of course but I am pumping water out of the ground, have a pool and a spa, the house is all electric. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:40:43 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 10:25:06 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:42:52 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:51:34 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/15/2021 3:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 13:24:41 -0600, "Dean L. Hoffman" wrote: It isn't mentioned in this article but the wind generators aren't working for what ever reason. Texas is having blackouts. https://newyorknewstimes.com/blackout-as-snow-ice-blanket-and-southern-plains-in-texas/114186/ There's an article in the Lincoln Journal-Star about some people in Nebraska being subject to rolling blackouts. To my knowledge, wind generators require a stable grid in order to synchronize and generate into. Also possible that ice build-up could be the culprit ? John T. Years ago I had a friend at the EPA assigned to looking into unregulated generators used for backup. Backup generators were proliferating with unreliable sources of electricity coming on stream. Where & when was that ? I don't doubt that back-up generators have proliferated - - but I strongly doubt that the _cause_ is grid _generation_ reliability. not the same as transmission / distribution reliability In my rural area, I'd guess that ~ every small farm has a PTO generator or something better . In my little burg of ~ 80 homes I'd guess that about half have some sort of back-up generator - mostly small portable units but a few folks have the permanent stand-by units with auto-start & such. ... which is what I will spring-for if & when my trusty little 20 + year-old 5 kw Honda ever dies. John T. Then you run into the same problem the Texas FF plants have. You run out of fuel and you are in the dark. In hurricane season I keep 50 gallons of gasoline and 125 gallons of propane. It will run me about 8-9 days based on what happened after Irma.. Nope - no natural gas here - propane for stand-by. 2 x 5 galloon gasoline cans will squeak me through a couple days or so in winter - longer in summer. And it gets used-up in the lawn mowers in summer. John T. My 5.5kw burns 0.5 GPH gasoline and 0.8 GPH propane. 10 gallons of gas would not make it a day. I need to be able to start 2 well pumps and keep the fridges going at least. With no central A/C, I also want to keep the pool blue. We swap that for the bedroom A/C at night. The general lighting load is insignificant after that. |
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On 2/16/2021 4:17 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
I'll take california any day. I've been to Cali twice. San Fransisco and north once, south to Carmel the second time. Not sure I'd want to live there, but the visit was pleasant. Good folks. My brother was in San Diego area. Nice to visit, never wanted to move there. A week or two at a time was nice. Good weather. Been to florida 3 or 4 times - don't really care if I never go back. Wasn'timpressed with Geirgia either - or the Carolinas. Which Florida? It is about 1100 miles long and varies considerably in climate, people, landscape. I like my west coast area but would not go to others. Only spent time in resort areas of Georgia but my sister lives in NC. Not bad where she is, but have only spent a few days at a time. Kentucky and Tennessee weren't bad but then againI was just passing through. You can keep the Dakotas and Iowa and as the saying goes, "I spent a weekin Kansas one day" -Nebraska about the same OK not much better. Yep, I'd just keep passing through Nothing but sky in Montana and Wyoming - much like Saskatchewan. And Nevada???? neh! I'd like to see Arizona and Utah some time. Nice to see, no desire to stay long. New Mexaco and southern Cali too. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minesota are OK - same with PA. PA was good The northern part of NY isn't bad and Maine / Vermont but southern NY and the Virginias??? Not impressed. Pretty much agree. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:12:51 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:05:38 -0500, Clare Snyder wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:42:52 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:51:34 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/15/2021 3:03 PM, wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 13:24:41 -0600, "Dean L. Hoffman" wrote: It isn't mentioned in this article but the wind generators aren't working for what ever reason. Texas is having blackouts. https://newyorknewstimes.com/blackout-as-snow-ice-blanket-and-southern-plains-in-texas/114186/ There's an article in the Lincoln Journal-Star about some people in Nebraska being subject to rolling blackouts. To my knowledge, wind generators require a stable grid in order to synchronize and generate into. Also possible that ice build-up could be the culprit ? John T. Years ago I had a friend at the EPA assigned to looking into unregulated generators used for backup. Backup generators were proliferating with unreliable sources of electricity coming on stream. Where & when was that ? I don't doubt that back-up generators have proliferated - - but I strongly doubt that the _cause_ is grid _generation_ reliability. not the same as transmission / distribution reliability In my rural area, I'd guess that ~ every small farm has a PTO generator or something better . In my little burg of ~ 80 homes I'd guess that about half have some sort of back-up generator - mostly small portable units but a few folks have the permanent stand-by units with auto-start & such. ... which is what I will spring-for if & when my trusty little 20 + year-old 5 kw Honda ever dies. John T. Tri-Fuel Champion 9900 in the shed with an interlock switch. Run on gasoline ntill I run out - then propane untill THAT runs out - or just connect to the natural gas and settle for about 5500 watts which is still enough to run the furnace and light the house and keep the cable/internet/phone running - AND run the frig at least between running the furnace (which only runs about 25% of the time at -20C) Or turn the lights off and watch the 50 inch plasma TV Is it 3600 rpm ? Noisy ? John T. Yes, it's a rather noisy 3600RPM unit. I used to have an ANCIENT single cyl Onan 1800 RPM unit - only 2500 watt 110 volt - with a wrap and pull rope start (not even a recoil) and it was just as noisy as the 3600 RPM unit. Just a different noise. |
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In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:56:33 -0500, Heywood
wrote: On 2/15/2021 3:55 PM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:21:49 -0500, Heywood wrote: On 2/15/2021 2:24 PM, Dean L. Hoffman wrote: ** It isn't mentioned in this article but the wind generators aren't working for what ever reason. Texas is having blackouts. https://newyorknewstimes.com/blackout-as-snow-ice-blanket-and-southern-plains-in-texas/114186/ *** There's an article in the Lincoln Journal-Star about some people in Nebraska being subject to rolling blackouts. I can see ice being a problem on the blades. Someone has to go sweep the solar panels too. It is a problem as most of our society needs electricity to function. The only part not hurt so bad is refrigeration, just put stuff outside. Just think how bad it will be when people's cell phones die and cannot be charged. They will have to actually talk to family members for entertainment. I don't like that. I bought a texting machine to use if there's a power failure here. You can send over 200 texts just from burning one average-sized lump of coal. Just read yesterday they are now making batteries from nuclear waste and they can last for a thousand years. They would go into places where battery change is difficult or impossible, such as medical implants and satellites in space. Very cool. And it's hard to find uses for nuclear waste. However they are also powering medical implants with coal. Not only will it run your pacemaker but it keeps you warm too. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:55:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/16/2021 4:17 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: I'll take california any day. I've been to Cali twice. San Fransisco and north once, south to Carmel the second time. Not sure I'd want to live there, but the visit was pleasant. Good folks. My brother was in San Diego area. Nice to visit, never wanted to move there. A week or two at a time was nice. Good weather. Been to florida 3 or 4 times - don't really care if I never go back. Wasn'timpressed with Geirgia either - or the Carolinas. Which Florida? It is about 1100 miles long and varies considerably in climate, people, landscape. I like my west coast area but would not go to others. Only spent time in resort areas of Georgia but my sister lives in NC. Not bad where she is, but have only spent a few days at a time. Kentucky and Tennessee weren't bad but then againI was just passing through. You can keep the Dakotas and Iowa and as the saying goes, "I spent a weekin Kansas one day" -Nebraska about the same OK not much better. Yep, I'd just keep passing through Nothing but sky in Montana and Wyoming - much like Saskatchewan. And Nevada???? neh! I'd like to see Arizona and Utah some time. Nice to see, no desire to stay long. New Mexaco and southern Cali too. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minesota are OK - same with PA. PA was good The northern part of NY isn't bad and Maine / Vermont but southern NY and the Virginias??? Not impressed. Pretty much agree. I've travelled and lived in sone third world countries. 2 years in Zambia, a month in Burkina Faso, travelled in Zaire and Bottswana, and from FD to the bottom of Yucatan in Mexico. There are parts of the USA that are worse - in many ways. The mountains of New York, Kentucky, and the virginias have some beauty - but NOBOFY should have to live the way many have to there in a DEVELOPED country. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:55:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/16/2021 4:17 PM, Clare Snyder wrote: I'll take california any day. I've been to Cali twice. San Fransisco and north once, south to Carmel the second time. Not sure I'd want to live there, but the visit was pleasant. Good folks. My brother was in San Diego area. Nice to visit, never wanted to move there. A week or two at a time was nice. Good weather. Been to florida 3 or 4 times - don't really care if I never go back. Wasn'timpressed with Geirgia either - or the Carolinas. Which Florida? It is about 1100 miles long and varies considerably in climate, people, landscape. I like my west coast area but would not go to others. Probably went to Orlando and Miami. Only spent time in resort areas of Georgia but my sister lives in NC. Not bad where she is, but have only spent a few days at a time. We have spent a lot of time in that tristate area were Georgia Tennessee and North Carolina converge. It is really a pretty nice area but watch out for the Trumprers. That is where the Greene woman is from. It is an easy mountain trip from Florida although we still prefer flying into Atlanta and renting a car. That 600 miles of I-75 is mind numbing and wastes a day each way. The last 4 times we went to DC we went up through the mountains instead of I-95 and took a week. We flew home. Kentucky and Tennessee weren't bad but then againI was just passing through. You can keep the Dakotas and Iowa and as the saying goes, "I spent a weekin Kansas one day" -Nebraska about the same OK not much better. The black hills in SD are cool but the rest is Nebraska. We were all over the Dakotas and ended up running back to the black hills. Yep, I'd just keep passing through My SIL's family is from Nebraska. His dad was a professor at one of those universities. I asked him what they had in Nebraska and he said "dirt". Nothing but sky in Montana and Wyoming - much like Saskatchewan. And Nevada???? neh! I'd like to see Arizona and Utah some time. Nice to see, no desire to stay long. We liked Montana. Dipped into Wyoming on both sides. The Tetons are cool. We stayed at Grand Targee. Turned down a job in Tucson. New Mexaco and southern Cali too. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minesota are OK - same with PA. We did an Az NM trip. The high plains are good, the desert sux. PA was good Meh It is hard to tell where western Md stops and NY starts, Skiing in 7 springs isn't bad if you like low hill skiing. I white water rafted on the Yuk. The northern part of NY isn't bad and Maine / Vermont but southern NY and the Virginias??? Not impressed. Pretty much agree. Did that loop from New Hampshire through Vermont, across the lake to NY to Buffalo. |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 23:10:17 -0500, micky
wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 16 Feb 2021 13:56:33 -0500, Heywood wrote: On 2/15/2021 3:55 PM, micky wrote: In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 15 Feb 2021 15:21:49 -0500, Heywood wrote: On 2/15/2021 2:24 PM, Dean L. Hoffman wrote: ** It isn't mentioned in this article but the wind generators aren't working for what ever reason. Texas is having blackouts. https://newyorknewstimes.com/blackout-as-snow-ice-blanket-and-southern-plains-in-texas/114186/ *** There's an article in the Lincoln Journal-Star about some people in Nebraska being subject to rolling blackouts. I can see ice being a problem on the blades. Someone has to go sweep the solar panels too. It is a problem as most of our society needs electricity to function. The only part not hurt so bad is refrigeration, just put stuff outside. Just think how bad it will be when people's cell phones die and cannot be charged. They will have to actually talk to family members for entertainment. I don't like that. I bought a texting machine to use if there's a power failure here. You can send over 200 texts just from burning one average-sized lump of coal. Just read yesterday they are now making batteries from nuclear waste and they can last for a thousand years. They would go into places where battery change is difficult or impossible, such as medical implants and satellites in space. Very cool. And it's hard to find uses for nuclear waste. However they are also powering medical implants with coal. Not only will it run your pacemaker but it keeps you warm too. I thought that was Frijoles |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 23:17:46 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: Been to florida 3 or 4 times - don't really care if I never go back. And to get it back on topic, I never had a power outage in Livingstone in 2 years - - - Never had POWER inFabedougou until we got the solar cells, batteries, and inverter set up. The power went out at 8pm at Macha and Mbereshi unless there was something special going on to require later community power (Diesel is expensive) |
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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:53:39 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: You don't suppose climate has anything to do with that do you? No, it doesn't. The climate in california is quite varied, much like Texas. California gets a lot more snow than Texas. How many days do you run the heat or the A/C and how much does it run? Have you been in the central or san joaquin valley in the summer? Fresno averages 100 for much of late summer. California also has made a concerted effort to reduce energy use for the last several decades (efficiency, et alia), successfully. I have been in Fresno and the san joaquin valley. The first thing I noticed is there are not nearly as many people there as there are on the coast. Same with the mountains where the snow is. I actually preferred it although the farm country is pretty boring if you are not a farmer and they were ****ed about the water, or lack thereof. Well, here on the coast it's currently 35 degrees and the heater is running. And you'd be surpised at how many people live in fresno, bakersfield[*], sacramento, redding and chico. Not to mention the large ag operations that consume energy, including the almond processors. [*] Where that fool Kevin McCarthy represents about 1% of the state's population. As for farm country, I prefer the northern parts of the state. Much prettier. Highway 299 from Burney to Alturas is quite nice. |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:00:42 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/16/2021 11:40 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:55:28 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: The last 4 times we went to DC we went up through the mountains instead of I-95 and took a week. We flew home. Kentucky and Tennessee weren't bad but then againI was just passing through. You can keep the Dakotas and Iowa and as the saying goes, "I spent a weekin Kansas one day" -Nebraska about the same OK not much better. The black hills in SD are cool but the rest is Nebraska. We were all over the Dakotas and ended up running back to the black hills. Had plans to go there a few years back but my wife had some surgery and was never up to a trip like that after. I was taking a norther route west, dropping to Las Vegas to see a new great grandson, then home on a more southern route. It is a variation of two previous trips west. I have never been to Vegas and have no interest in going. We have been all around the west tho. This is my vacation picture directory 1997 Guatemala Cozumel Caymans 1998 DC Tidewater Va 1999 Tennessee 2000 psjoe 2004 Alaska 2005 Idaho Wyoming 2006 New Mexico Arizona 2007 The Dakotas 2008 new england 2008 ski trip xmas Pa 2009 california 2009 Smokies DC 2010 Georgia 2011 colorado 2012 Md 4th 2012 North Carolina 2013 Oregon 2014 montana 2015 New Zealand 2016 DC 2017 Mash Stomp NC Did that loop from New Hampshire through Vermont, across the lake to NY to Buffalo. Spent a lot of time in that area after moving to CT. Some nice small town. We avoided all of the cities as much as possible. We did like the area around Lake Placid but when we got to Buffalo we went straight through to Canada. That is like getting in a time machine comparing New York to Ontario. It is the same on the other side of the lake in Detroit. Canada is Mayberry. |
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 10:09:17 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/18/2021 1:31 AM, wrote: I have never been to Vegas and have no interest in going. We have been all around the west tho. You really should go sometime when you have an hour to kill. Take a ride out to the dam, then go down the strip and spend 15 minutes in a casino. Done. Casinos are all alike, whether it is AC, Nassau or Immokalee. I have seen bright lights and blighted neighborhoods too. They are usually right down the road from the Casino. Been there more times than I cared to be. We went for some work "seminars" for a few days. Daughter lived there for a few years and I still have two granddaughters living there. This is my vacation picture directory 1997 Guatemala Cozumel Caymans 1998 DC Tidewater Va 1999 Tennessee 2000 psjoe 2004 Alaska 2005 Idaho Wyoming 2006 New Mexico Arizona 2007 The Dakotas 2008 new england 2008 ski trip xmas Pa 2009 california 2009 Smokies DC 2010 Georgia 2011 colorado 2012 Md 4th 2012 North Carolina 2013 Oregon 2014 montana 2015 New Zealand 2016 DC 2017 Mash Stomp NC Pretty good list. I have most of the east well covered but not much in the northwest. Been to Mexico a few times but no desire to return. Mexico is OK once you get away from the border and the tourist areas. We took a day trip about 50 miles south of Cancun for a horseback adventure and ran into a girl from South Dakota. It was a totally different experience. |
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On 2/18/21 10:09 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/18/2021 1:31 AM, wrote: I have never been to Vegas and have no interest in going. We have been all around the west tho. You really should go sometime when you have an hour to kill.Â* Take a ride out to the dam, then go down the strip and spend 15 minutes in a casino.Â* Done. Been there more times than I cared to be.Â* We went for some work "seminars" for a few days.Â* Daughter lived there for a few years and I still have two granddaughters living there. snip Years back, I was on a business trip from Atlanta to Ontario, California with a change of planes in Las Vegas. I had a few minutes until boarding time and four quarters in my pocket. I decided to deposit in the slot machines right at the boarding gate. Long story short- I hit the jackpot with the last coin. Sirens went off, bells started ringing and quarters poured out of the machine. I ended up filling a half-dozen 32 ounce drink cups. But I couldn't get the change ladies roaming the concourse to accept the quarters and give me bills. They said they were only allowed to change bills into quarters, not vice-versa! So I ended up trucking them onto the plane with me. I was met right at the gate in Ontario and whisked immediately to lead a meeting at my client's office. The six cups on the conference table made for an amusing story and got everyone into a good frame of mind for the not very good news I had to deliver to them... -- Why is it that the people who want more government control over your life are the same ones who want you to be disarmed? |
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On 02/18/2021 12:06 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
Years back, I was on a business trip from Atlanta to Ontario, California with a change of planes in Las Vegas. I had a few minutes until boarding time and four quarters in my pocket. I decided to deposit in the slot machines right at the boarding gate. Long story short- I hit the jackpot with the last coin. Sirens went off, bells started ringing and quarters poured out of the machine. When I was trucking at stopped at night at a casino in Jean. Around 4 AM I climbed out of the truck and went inside to get a cup of coffee. I got a quarter in change for the coffee and threw it into the slot by the coffee stand. Same deal. The girl at the coffee counter said 'You son of a bitch! I've been feeding that one all night!'. That was my big lifetime casino win. |
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 14:06:28 -0500, Wade Garrett
wrote: On 2/18/21 10:09 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/18/2021 1:31 AM, wrote: I have never been to Vegas and have no interest in going. We have been all around the west tho. You really should go sometime when you have an hour to kill.Â* Take a ride out to the dam, then go down the strip and spend 15 minutes in a casino.Â* Done. Been there more times than I cared to be.Â* We went for some work "seminars" for a few days.Â* Daughter lived there for a few years and I still have two granddaughters living there. snip Years back, I was on a business trip from Atlanta to Ontario, California with a change of planes in Las Vegas. I had a few minutes until boarding time and four quarters in my pocket. I decided to deposit in the slot machines right at the boarding gate. Long story short- I hit the jackpot with the last coin. Sirens went off, bells started ringing and quarters poured out of the machine. I ended up filling a half-dozen 32 ounce drink cups. But I couldn't get the change ladies roaming the concourse to accept the quarters and give me bills. They said they were only allowed to change bills into quarters, not vice-versa! So I ended up trucking them onto the plane with me. I was met right at the gate in Ontario and whisked immediately to lead a meeting at my client's office. The six cups on the conference table made for an amusing story and got everyone into a good frame of mind for the not very good news I had to deliver to them... We used to have slot machines in Md when I was growing up and we went down to Waldorf drinking and playing the slots pretty often when I was in high school. Only once did I ever do well. I hit 2 jackpots in one night. Total $87.50. The real jackpots were paid by the bar owner, not out of the machine. Dumping that little stack of coins was literally chump change. We were rich for a while. ;-) |
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On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 19:53:18 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again: When I was trucking at stopped at night at a casino in Jean. Around 4 AM I climbed out of the truck and Oh, no! FLUSH another typical senile bull**** story |
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