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On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote:
Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 We have to pass the bill so that you can see what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:35:48 -0500, George
wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 DEMS GO ECO WILD! Rebuild every single building in USA... Phase out air travel in next 10 years... TARGETS COW FLATULENCE... Government-guaranteed job for all! Socialist wish list... 2020 litmus test... Print money to pay for it? Ocasio-Cortez boosts progressive theory that deficits aren't so scary... Cries at defund ICE press conference... VIDEO: Venezuelan socialism victims send message to Americans... |
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On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote:
Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. Right. A fart in a space suit. There would be no more sewing machines or oil to lube them. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone |
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On 2019-02-07, wrote:
This is how dumb AOC is. She is a blithering idiot. It would be laughable if not for so many other idiots drinking the same kool-aid. Unfortunately that makes her and her addled ideas very dangerous. These people must be kept out of power. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com Don't talk to cops! -- http://www.DontTalkToCops.com Badges don't grant extra rights -- http://www.CopBlock.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:46:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Well, you can say she's dumb, but she's right. Congress just appropriated money for all the other stuff, borrowed whatever they needed, so they could do it for her stuff too. We agree that this can't go on forever, that a day of reckoning is coming. I've said many times that it could also come without warning. Just like investors loves stocks and disregard any and all warning signs at times, the same thing can happen with bonds. Then one day there is a panic, when they suddenly decide that it looks like they won't get their money back. |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:35:48 -0500, George
wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Cortez makes Al Gore proud! That's good to know. Another reason to vote for her. I don't trust that Pelosi woman. She's a democrat, but acts like a repuglican. She's no better than the Clinton woman, IMHO. Well, the US has a good candidate. Now work to make it happen !!!!! I'm sick of Trump making the US a joke. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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![]() "trader_4" wrote in message ... On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 4:46:17 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Well, you can say she's dumb, but she's right. Congress just appropriated money for all the other stuff, borrowed whatever they needed, so they could do it for her stuff too. We agree that this can't go on forever, that a day of reckoning is coming. I've said many times that it could also come without warning. Just like investors loves stocks and disregard any and all warning signs at times, the same thing can happen with bonds. Then one day there is a panic, when they suddenly decide that it looks like they won't get their money back. That last doesnt happen with economys like the USA, china has to put all those dollars they accumulate via the trade imbalance somewhere. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 18:55:48 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... Well, you can say she's dumb, but she's right. Congress just appropriated money for all the other stuff, borrowed whatever they needed, so they could do it for her stuff too. We agree that this can't go on forever, that a day of reckoning is coming. I've said many times that it could also come without warning. Just like investors loves stocks and disregard any and all warning signs at times, the same thing can happen with bonds. Then one day there is a panic, when they suddenly decide that it looks like they won't get their money back. If we would quit giving away money to other countries and keep our military out of things unless it is an all out war to win, there would be some money for a few things in this country. Really ****es me off that we can not win a war against a few pickup trucks with machine guns on them after about 3 or 4 presidents. It took less than 5 years to defeat Germany and Japan. The difference was that these were countries we were fighting, not a battle against ideas. |
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![]() "Ralph Mowery" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... Well, you can say she's dumb, but she's right. Congress just appropriated money for all the other stuff, borrowed whatever they needed, so they could do it for her stuff too. We agree that this can't go on forever, that a day of reckoning is coming. I've said many times that it could also come without warning. Just like investors loves stocks and disregard any and all warning signs at times, the same thing can happen with bonds. Then one day there is a panic, when they suddenly decide that it looks like they won't get their money back. If we would quit giving away money to other countries and keep our military out of things unless it is an all out war to win, there would be some money for a few things in this country. Really ****es me off that we can not win a war against a few pickup trucks with machine guns on them after about 3 or 4 presidents. That sort of thing is impossible to win when its not in your country. It took less than 5 years to defeat Germany and Japan. But quite a bit more was spent on that war. |
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![]() "Shadow" wrote in message ... On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:35:48 -0500, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Cortez makes Al Gore proud! That's good to know. Another reason to vote for her. I don't trust that Pelosi woman. She's a democrat, but acts like a repuglican. She's no better than the Clinton woman, IMHO. Well, the US has a good candidate. Nope, a hopeless one. Now work to make it happen Not possible, you watch. !!!!! I'm sick of Trump making the US a joke. What you wogs are sick of is irrelevant. You clowns can't even work out how to run you own pathetic excuse for a country. |
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On 02/07/2019 04:55 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
Really ****es me off that we can not win a war against a few pickup trucks with machine guns on them after about 3 or 4 presidents. It took less than 5 years to defeat Germany and Japan. Yeah, but it ain't polite to drop atomic bombs or white phosphorous on members of the religion of peace. otoh, I think we dropped more HE on southeast Asia than the whole WWII operation and didn't exactly win that one either. But we really kicked ass and took names in Granada. You've got to pick your wars. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 20:20:38 -0700, rbowman wrote:
On 02/07/2019 04:55 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote: Really ****es me off that we can not win a war against a few pickup trucks with machine guns on them after about 3 or 4 presidents. It took less than 5 years to defeat Germany and Japan. Yeah, but it ain't polite to drop atomic bombs or white phosphorous on members of the religion of peace. otoh, I think we dropped more HE on southeast Asia than the whole WWII operation and didn't exactly win that one either. But we really kicked ass and took names in Granada. You've got to pick your wars. The most dangerous weapon during WWII was good old Napalm. We had burned most of the japanese cities to the ground, killing lots of civilians. If for some reason the US had lost that war, LeMay would have been a war criminal along with Bomber Harris and most of the air force generals for waging unrestricted war on civilians. (Pretty much what we charged Goering with doing) |
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:50:03 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: "Shadow" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:35:48 -0500, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Cortez makes Al Gore proud! That's good to know. Another reason to vote for her. I don't trust that Pelosi woman. She's a democrat, but acts like a repuglican. She's no better than the Clinton woman, IMHO. Well, the US has a good candidate. Nope, a hopeless one. Why ? She can't be worse than Trump. Nobody can. Now work to make it happen Not possible, you watch. !!!!! I'm sick of Trump making the US a joke. What you wogs are sick of is irrelevant. We "wogs" are over 95% of the "people made in the likeness of your god". It's in the fairy tale, so it must be true. China is soon to become the World's biggest economy, and the EU the most important political power. Hence the pathetic attempts to weaken it by "brexits". You clowns can't even work out how to run you own pathetic excuse for a country. YOU don't know how to run it. It's just another US colony now. You used the same scheme the Russians did to elect Trump. Hundreds of millions of #FAKE_POSTS elected Bolsonaro. How long is it going to take you to kill your psychotic proxy and install a "democratic" dictatorship ? You are not as efficient as you were 55 years ago. But I suppose decadence has something to do with that. 14% of Amerikans can't read and write ? And you call us "pathetic" ? What a joke. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. |
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On 02/08/2019 05:52 AM, Shadow wrote:
We "wogs" are over 95% of the "people made in the likeness of your god". It's in the fairy tale, so it must be true. If you don't have a resemblance to Wotan screw off. My Gods aren't swarthy little camel humpers. |
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![]() "Shadow" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 11:50:03 +1100, "Rod Speed" wrote: "Shadow" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 14:35:48 -0500, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Cortez makes Al Gore proud! That's good to know. Another reason to vote for her. I don't trust that Pelosi woman. She's a democrat, but acts like a repuglican. She's no better than the Clinton woman, IMHO. Well, the US has a good candidate. Nope, a hopeless one. Why ? Usual mindless socialist crap, put it all on the card with no way to pay for it all. She can't be worse than Trump. Nobody can. That's a completely stupid way to decide who should be prez. Now work to make it happen Not possible, you watch. !!!!! I'm sick of Trump making the US a joke. What you wogs are sick of is irrelevant. We "wogs" are over 95% of the "people made in the likeness of your god". It's in the fairy tale, so it must be true. China is soon to become the World's biggest economy, Irrelevant that they **** like rabbits. and the EU the most important political power. Completely off wit the ****ing fairys, as always. Hence the pathetic attempts to weaken it by "brexits". The majority who bothered to vote decided they wanted out. You clowns can't even work out how to run you own pathetic excuse for a country. YOU don't know how to run it. It's just another US colony now. If it is, you clowns were the ones who allowed that to happen. You used the same scheme the Russians did to elect Trump. The russians had **** all to do with why Trump got elected. Hundreds of millions of #FAKE_POSTS elected Bolsonaro. Bull****. How long is it going to take you to kill your psychotic proxy and install a "democratic" dictatorship ? You are not as efficient as you were 55 years ago. I'm not a yank, stupid. But I suppose decadence has something to do with that. 14% of Amerikans can't read and write ? Bull****. And you call us "pathetic" ? What a joke. Yep, you wogs are indeed a joke. |
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On 2/7/2019 5:17 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
On 2019-02-07, wrote: This is how dumb AOC is. She is a blithering idiot. It would be laughable if not for so many other idiots drinking the same kool-aid. Unfortunately that makes her and her addled ideas very dangerous. These people must be kept out of power. AOC is looney tunes. I don't know why the media gives her any respect. I will never watch 60 Minutes again after they had her on and made her appear normal. |
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On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. |
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 06:23:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. |
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![]() "Frank" "frank wrote in message ... On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. "majoring in international relations and economics." This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 06:23:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. There are no current monopolys, just some very successful operations. |
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:40:56 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:
On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for “the same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war — with public money appropriated by Congress,” Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. _Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Democratic Socialists of America member. Here’'s what that means._ "... What does DSA believe in? Like most socialist organizations, DSA believes in the abolition of capitalism in favor of an economy run either by “the workers” or the state — though the exact specifics of “abolishing capitalism” are fiercely debated by socialists. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/27/17509604/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democratic-socialist-of-america She ain't the brightest, for sure. Without fossil fuel -- the USA stops function. Can't build wind turbines, solar panels, etc. without oil. Her seamstrest can't make her clothes, cotton can't be ginned and no sewing needles can be made anymore. The clown is ****in' nuts. Fuzzy Maff ain't hard. |
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On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 1:17:29 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 06:23:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. That's because monopolies are few and far between. I can't think of a single company that's actually a monopoly unless they are a utility like power, water, cable, etc. And those are regulated. There are companies that the govt has gone after that have had lots of market power and that have tried to use that power illegally, eg tying products, forcing a company to buy other products to get a sole source product. |
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 18:24:34 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: I found out that when I sold a house and bought another one for cash that I had to have a lawyer do some of the paper work. By Law I could not do it myself even if I knew how. Some state laws require a lawyer do a title search. NY was one for me. You take out title insurance if the lawyer didn't make sure the title was clear. Sue the lawyer. In my state and others the Title Company (RE agent) clears the title so you sue them over any claims to your property. Post occupation. Something like that ![]() |
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On 2/8/2019 5:43 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:40:56 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. _Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Democratic Socialists of America member. Here's what that means._ "... What does DSA believe in? Like most socialist organizations, DSA believes in the abolition of capitalism in favor of an economy run either by €śthe workers€ť or the state €” though the exact specifics of €śabolishing capitalism€ť are fiercely debated by socialists. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/27/17509604/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democratic-socialist-of-america She ain't the brightest, for sure. Without fossil fuel -- the USA stops function. Can't build wind turbines, solar panels, etc. without oil. Her seamstrest can't make her clothes, cotton can't be ginned and no sewing needles can be made anymore. The clown is ****in' nuts. Fuzzy Maff ain't hard. You have something against making spears and wearing animal hides? Once the factories stop making stuff we can take over the buildings for the homeless. The factory cafeteria will become the local soup kitchen for the residents. Along those lines, a three bedroom home can be taken over by the government and made into a three family home. The residents can eat beans and heat it with natural gas. |
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![]() "Ralph Mowery" wrote in message k.net... In article , says... The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. There are no current monopolys, just some very successful operations. It is not a true monopoly, And nothing like one given Linux which is free and Macs. but Microsoft and the Windows is very close to it for the desk top computers. Nope, nowhere near it, with laptops too. The other two are the Medical profession Those arent a monopoly either. There is always 'traditional' medicine, spivs and con men like homeopathy and herbalists etc and faith healers etc. and lawyers. They arent a monopoly either, you are free to defend yourself if you want to and do your own property transfers etc in most jurisdictions. I found out that when I sold a house and bought another one for cash that I had to have a lawyer do some of the paper work. Not here you don't. By Law I could not do it myself even if I knew how. That's not common at all. I can not just go to a drug store and get even simple perscription medicine with out the doctor's paper work. But you are free to cut off your own hand if you want to and free to see if chanting 100 Hail Marys will fix you too. And no one has a monopoly on providing medical services for profit, there are a vast number competing to get your business. |
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On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 07:33:23 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 06:23:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. There are no current monopolys, just some very successful operations. Bull****. I would start with the drug companies but in the US most cable TV companies are monopolies in their areas and Comcast is a monster owning entertainment from the studio to the set top box and everything in between. Microsoft is also a monopoly by the definition used when the broke up the phone company and IBM in the 70s. Innovation exploded when that happened. |
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 15:08:37 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 1:17:29 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 06:23:47 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 7:09:47 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 15:09:46 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 5:20:53 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". She doesn't think it grows on trees. She says it's in the hands of the rich and she wants to redistribute it. The problem is that people overestimate how much money the rich have compared to a $20 trillion dollar debt or even the trillion dollar annual deficit. A huge part of the problem is people think unrealized capital gains are wealth. And another problem is that people like her claim that it's unfair that the founder of a company is worth a billion, while the lowest employees are only making $30K. It would be nice if those making $30K were making $40K or $50K instead. The problem is that the govt taking the rich guy's billion, running it into the govt coffers, then ****ing it away on moon beams or people who just don't want to work, doesn't get those workers a $50K salary either. A good, thriving economy with low unemployment is a better way of raising their salaries. I'd be willing to at least look at other ideas to try to raise earnings overall, but taking all the money of the rich, stuffing it into govt and silly socialist ideas, just produces another Venezuela. The money some CEOs make is the symptom of a much larger problem. There are far fewer companies controlling far larger portions of the marketplace. Perhaps a better measure of CEO pay would be the company gross and market share. People who control monopolies tend to make a lot of money. We haven't really tried to do anything about monopolies since the Nixon administration. That's because monopolies are few and far between. I can't think of a single company that's actually a monopoly unless they are a utility like power, water, cable, etc. And those are regulated. There are companies that the govt has gone after that have had lots of market power and that have tried to use that power illegally, eg tying products, forcing a company to buy other products to get a sole source product. Microsoft is a monopoly in the office PC business and it's major competition is going to be the cell phone/tablet running Android. BTW what regulation is there on cable companies? It is certainly not price controlled or forced to give the customer decent service like Ma Bell was. Maybe you are not old enough to remember what anti trust law actually meant. IBM had a lesser market share than Microsoft and the government coerced them to break up into separate business units actively competing with each other, much like GM used to be. The criteria was controlling more than 90% of any given market. BTW the most oppressive monopoly is the drug companies who buy up drugs that used to be cheap or even free, nobody can compete with them and they spike the price 1000% or more. |
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On 02/08/2019 10:39 AM, Frank wrote:
AOC is looney tunes. I don't know why the media gives her any respect. I will never watch 60 Minutes again after they had her on and made her appear normal. She's young, somewhat photogenic, and attracts viewers, either True Believers or people waiting to laugh at her next brain spasm. It worked for Trump, not the young, photogenic part of course, but he was a lot more interesting that Little Marco, Low Energy Jeb, Lyin' Ted, or Huckleberry Hound. Ever watch 'The Last Hurrah' or read the book? O'Connor wrote it in '56 and it took 60 years to ripen. |
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On 02/08/2019 10:40 AM, Frank wrote:
On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for €śthe same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war €” with public money appropriated by Congress,€ť Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. And the degree is from Boston university, not Billie Bob's School of the Ozarks. BU used to be fairly decent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston...rade_deflation "About 81 percent of all grades earned in either the A or B range (75% in the B range)." But that's just because are students are so much better and brighter. Honest. I remember a talk during freshman orientation. 'Look to your right, and look to your left. One of you will graduate'. That was an engineering college in the '60s and they weren't interested in handing out degrees for participating. However, since it's gone from one of the top three to way back in the pack I think the attitude may have changed. |
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On 02/08/2019 03:43 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 12:40:56 -0500, Frank "frank wrote: On 2/7/2019 5:20 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 16:45:58 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 16:15:36 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/7/2019 2:35 PM, George wrote: Socialist Ocasio-Kotex makes Al Gore proud! https://www.marke****ch.com/story/pe...eam-2019-02-07 I like this comment. Should be simple if you want to live in the dark Ocasio-Cortez and Massachusetts Sen. Markey are aiming to eliminate the U.S. carbon footprint by 2030. This is how dumb AOC is. The Green New Deal would be paid for “the same way we paid for the original New Deal, World War II, the bank bailouts, tax cuts for the rich and decades of war — with public money appropriated by Congress,” Ocasio-Cortez said. We can't even raise the taxes to pay the government's bills now. We are borrowing close to a trillion a year. Let's see how it works for the democrats if they want to raise taxes enough to pay for the "Green Deal". We are all going to drown in debt long before sea level rise gets anyone Her mother should have taught her: "money doesn't grow on trees". I believe her college degree is in economics. This says a lot about the sorry state of today's colleges. _Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Democratic Socialists of America member. Here’'s what that means._ "... What does DSA believe in? Like most socialist organizations, DSA believes in the abolition of capitalism in favor of an economy run either by “the workers” or the state — though the exact specifics of “abolishing capitalism” are fiercely debated by socialists. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/27/17509604/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democratic-socialist-of-america She ain't the brightest, for sure. She may not be bright but at least she's honest. Sanders calls himself a Democratic Socialist but he's really a social democrat. That's not a play on words; there is a real difference. |
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