Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

Â* As long as it's in the tread belt you should be OK .

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On 5/19/2018 7:15 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

Â* As long as it's in the tread belt you should be OK .

Looked OK to me to. Not sure tire would pass the Lincoln penny head
test though - looks pretty worn.

On 5/19/18 3:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

You're fine with that repair, but the tread looks worn down beyond safe
depth- unless of course you never drive a a wet road. Time for new tires!

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On 5/19/2018 8:28 AM, Frank wrote:


The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

Â*Â* As long as it's in the tread belt you should be OK .

Looked OK to me to.Â* Not sure tire would pass the Lincoln penny head
test though - looks pretty worn.

That would be my concern too. I'd be out tire shopping this week.

On 5/19/2018 3:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.


Most certified repair facilities will not plug/patch a tire within 1"
from sidewall edge as they say "liability issues", but I believe they
mean "potential sale".

I've done several repairs even closer and they've held up to the life of
the tire. Your repair looks fine but as others have said, treadwear
doesn't look well. Be careful in wet weather.

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:28:54 AM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
On 5/19/2018 7:15 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

Â* As long as it's in the tread belt you should be OK .

Looked OK to me to. Not sure tire would pass the Lincoln penny head
test though - looks pretty worn.

It's not down to the replacement wear indicator that you can see in the photo.
Exactly how much is left, hard to say because it's a vertical shot.
They would definitely pass the penny test on the section we can see,
I'm guessing there is about 4/32 left. The Lincoln test is 2/32, which
is the wear indicator.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 07:25:17 +0000 (UTC), Frank Weg
wrote:

Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.
According to the tire repair association rules the tire is
technically "unrepairable" but I've seen MANY successfull repairs in
that portion of a tire and have repaired many my self.

Keep an eye on the tire, but I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 08:28:26 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

On 5/19/2018 7:15 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

* As long as it's in the tread belt you should be OK .

Looked OK to me to. Not sure tire would pass the Lincoln penny head
test though - looks pretty worn.
The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:13:43 -0400, Meanie wrote:

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.


Most certified repair facilities will not plug/patch a tire within 1"
from sidewall edge as they say "liability issues", but I believe they
mean "potential sale".

I've done several repairs even closer and they've held up to the life of
the tire. Your repair looks fine but as others have said, treadwear
doesn't look well. Be careful in wet weather.

I think it is a good repair for around the farm, on a non-registered
vehicle. Know what I mean, Vern?
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On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg
....


Borderline!!!!???? It's d'd near the middle of the tread.

The tire's done wore'd out, but other than that...

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On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 1:33:31 PM UTC-4, dpb wrote:
On 5/19/2018 2:25 AM, Frank Weg wrote:
Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg
...


Borderline!!!!???? It's d'd near the middle of the tread.

The tire's done wore'd out, but other than that...

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What does d'd mean? The plug sure isn't near the middle of the tread.
I think it's still OK, I'd plug it there, but it's not in the middle.

On 5/19/2018 12:48 PM, trader_4 wrote:
....

What does d'd mean? The plug sure isn't near the middle of the tread.
I think it's still OK, I'd plug it there, but it's not in the middle.

Insert your preferred middle

OK, I only looked at one of the pitchures; in it thought looked like the
center tread bar rather than the outer. It's still well down into the
tread away from the sidewall, however, as far as the patch location;
it's still an already wore out tire, though.

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On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:53:26 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:

The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

I think my earlier pictures must have been really bad
http://i.cubeupload.com/hL4S7k.jpg

because the tire has, I think, plenty of tread,
http://i.cubeupload.com/QhfOze.jpg

as you noticed,
http://i.cubeupload.com/m7V4v8.jpg

where the tread is nowhere near the wear bars
http://i.cubeupload.com/9JuDSK.jpg

unless I'm missing something.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QAXcRZ.jpg

I'm more worried about two things that could signify "danger".

1. I put glue on the patch after peeling off the blue plastic, where I
think I wasn't supposed to do that (the patch seems to be holding though).

2. I'm mostly asking about how close is too close to the shoulder.

This graphic shows it is clearly too far over the edge of the safe area.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ps9ls6bfrl.jpg
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
https://www.monroetire.com/tire-center/tire-repair.aspx

But this graphic shows it is right on the edge of the safe area.
https://www.americastire.com/learn/tire-repair
https://i.stack.imgur.com/90u52.jpg
https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/blog...air%20area.png

The problem is that there isn't any consistency to that advice.
Which is why I ask you and provided the pictures.

What do you think about the proximity to the shoulder on that repair?

On 5/19/2018 4:57 PM, Frank Weg wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:53:26 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:

The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

I think my earlier pictures must have been really bad
http://i.cubeupload.com/hL4S7k.jpg

because the tire has, I think, plenty of tread,
http://i.cubeupload.com/QhfOze.jpg


Though not directed to me, I'll answer,

Agreed. Must have been bad angles and/or lighting. Tread looks very good.

as you noticed,
http://i.cubeupload.com/m7V4v8.jpg

where the tread is nowhere near the wear bars
http://i.cubeupload.com/9JuDSK.jpg

unless I'm missing something.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QAXcRZ.jpg

I'm more worried about two things that could signify "danger".

1. I put glue on the patch after peeling off the blue plastic, where I
think I wasn't supposed to do that (the patch seems to be holding though).

2. I'm mostly asking about how close is too close to the shoulder.

As I stated in my reply below, Too close is within the 1" from the edge.
You provided a link with the description, why are you then asking?

This graphic shows it is clearly too far over the edge of the safe area.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ps9ls6bfrl.jpg
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
https://www.monroetire.com/tire-center/tire-repair.aspx

But this graphic shows it is right on the edge of the safe area.
https://www.americastire.com/learn/tire-repair
https://i.stack.imgur.com/90u52.jpg
https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/blog...air%20area.png

The problem is that there isn't any consistency to that advice.
Which is why I ask you and provided the pictures.

What do you think about the proximity to the shoulder on that repair?

As others have said and agreed, your repair looks good. I think you're
worrying too much about it. If it's holding air, burn rubber, drag race
it, do stunts on two wheels, the tire will be fine.

On Sat, 19 May 2018 17:20:24 -0400, Meanie wrote:

Though not directed to me, I'll answer,

I'm directing the question to everyone who can help me.

Agreed. Must have been bad angles and/or lighting. Tread looks very good.
The first set were taken indoors last night.
The second set were taken outdoors in the trunk of the car.

For some reason, indoor lighting universally makes tread disappear!
Outdoor lighting brings it all back!

As I stated in my reply below, Too close is within the 1" from the edge.
You provided a link with the description, why are you then asking?

Did you look at both sets of links?
Some show 1/2 inch. Others 1 inch. One looked about 1.5 to 2 inches.

I would have driven it to Goodyear who patches tires free but I needed the
car today so I didn't have time to set up an appointment.

Plus I wasn't sure if they'd patch it since there seems to be a HUGE leeway
in what is considered too close to the sidewall by the looks of the
conflicting articles.

It's my first patch so I didn't know you're not supposed to but the rubber
cement on the patch itself after peeling away the blue plastic.

As others have said and agreed, your repair looks good. I think you're
worrying too much about it. If it's holding air, burn rubber, drag race
it, do stunts on two wheels, the tire will be fine.

I'm leaving for a long trip so I wanted the patch to hold.
I have a spare but it's a different tire brand.

On 5/19/2018 4:57 PM, Frank Weg wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:53:26 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:

The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

I think my earlier pictures must have been really bad
http://i.cubeupload.com/hL4S7k.jpg

because the tire has, I think, plenty of tread,
http://i.cubeupload.com/QhfOze.jpg

as you noticed,
http://i.cubeupload.com/m7V4v8.jpg

where the tread is nowhere near the wear bars
http://i.cubeupload.com/9JuDSK.jpg

unless I'm missing something.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QAXcRZ.jpg

I'm more worried about two things that could signify "danger".

1. I put glue on the patch after peeling off the blue plastic, where I
think I wasn't supposed to do that (the patch seems to be holding though).

2. I'm mostly asking about how close is too close to the shoulder.

This graphic shows it is clearly too far over the edge of the safe area.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ps9ls6bfrl.jpg
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
https://www.monroetire.com/tire-center/tire-repair.aspx

But this graphic shows it is right on the edge of the safe area.
https://www.americastire.com/learn/tire-repair
https://i.stack.imgur.com/90u52.jpg
https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/blog...air%20area.png

The problem is that there isn't any consistency to that advice.
Which is why I ask you and provided the pictures.

What do you think about the proximity to the shoulder on that repair?


Looks OK. We could only judge by your first pictures.

trader_4d

d'AMNEd near.

Clears things up for ya?

On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:57:20 +0000 (UTC), Frank Weg
wrote:

On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:53:26 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:

The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

I think my earlier pictures must have been really bad
http://i.cubeupload.com/hL4S7k.jpg

because the tire has, I think, plenty of tread,
http://i.cubeupload.com/QhfOze.jpg

as you noticed,
http://i.cubeupload.com/m7V4v8.jpg

where the tread is nowhere near the wear bars
http://i.cubeupload.com/9JuDSK.jpg

unless I'm missing something.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QAXcRZ.jpg

I'm more worried about two things that could signify "danger".

1. I put glue on the patch after peeling off the blue plastic, where I
think I wasn't supposed to do that (the patch seems to be holding though).

2. I'm mostly asking about how close is too close to the shoulder.

This graphic shows it is clearly too far over the edge of the safe area.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ps9ls6bfrl.jpg
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
https://www.monroetire.com/tire-center/tire-repair.aspx

But this graphic shows it is right on the edge of the safe area.
https://www.americastire.com/learn/tire-repair
https://i.stack.imgur.com/90u52.jpg
https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/blog...air%20area.png

The problem is that there isn't any consistency to that advice.
Which is why I ask you and provided the pictures.

What do you think about the proximity to the shoulder on that repair?
Like I said - officially it's on the edge -according to the tire
industry association.
It is beyond the outermost tread cut - in otherwords "outside the
tread area". That said, I would still repair it.

If it is a "speed rated" tire the repair would negate the speed rating
- in my opinion - but it is still a useable highway tire at legal
highway speeds. The tread is definitely well within range.

On Saturday, May 19, 2018 at 8:08:13 PM UTC-4, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 19 May 2018 20:57:20 +0000 (UTC), Frank Weg
wrote:

On Sat, 19 May 2018 10:53:26 -0400, Clare Snyder wrote:

The tread wear indicator bars are still below the tread level - so
it should pass the "penny test" - but the tire IS getting worn.

Depending on the usage, it could well last another season, but wet
traction will be compromised somewhat. I'd be more worried about the
AGE - and hardening of the rubber. Check the sidewall date code. If
over 6 years old, go shopping.

I think my earlier pictures must have been really bad
http://i.cubeupload.com/hL4S7k.jpg

because the tire has, I think, plenty of tread,
http://i.cubeupload.com/QhfOze.jpg

as you noticed,
http://i.cubeupload.com/m7V4v8.jpg

where the tread is nowhere near the wear bars
http://i.cubeupload.com/9JuDSK.jpg

unless I'm missing something.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QAXcRZ.jpg

I'm more worried about two things that could signify "danger".

1. I put glue on the patch after peeling off the blue plastic, where I
think I wasn't supposed to do that (the patch seems to be holding though).

2. I'm mostly asking about how close is too close to the shoulder.

This graphic shows it is clearly too far over the edge of the safe area.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ps9ls6bfrl.jpg
https://www.tireindustry.org/tire-ma...ce/tire-repair
https://www.monroetire.com/tire-center/tire-repair.aspx

But this graphic shows it is right on the edge of the safe area.
https://www.americastire.com/learn/tire-repair
https://i.stack.imgur.com/90u52.jpg
https://www.kwik-fit.com/assets/blog...air%20area.png

The problem is that there isn't any consistency to that advice.
Which is why I ask you and provided the pictures.

What do you think about the proximity to the shoulder on that repair?
Like I said - officially it's on the edge -according to the tire
industry association.
It is beyond the outermost tread cut - in otherwords "outside the
tread area". That said, I would still repair it.

If it is a "speed rated" tire the repair would negate the speed rating
- in my opinion - but it is still a useable highway tire at legal
highway speeds. The tread is definitely well within range.

He needs to go buy a used replacement tire with no plug or a new
set of tires. I can already tell that's the only way his mind will
be at ease.

Frank Weg posted for all of us...



Just repaired this tire and was wondering since it seems borderline.
http://i.cubeupload.com/ephXTU.jpg

What do you think about the sidewall proximity?
http://i.cubeupload.com/dVRzSE.jpg

I plugged it with a string tie from the outside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QTSFM6.jpg

After cutting both sides flush, I patched it from the inside.
http://i.cubeupload.com/Pf9S1J.jpg

I accidentally got the rubber cement on the patch, but it seems to hold.
http://i.cubeupload.com/f260b6.jpg

The main question is whether the hole is too close to the sidewall.

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