On 09/01/2017 06:57, FromTheRafters wrote:
After serious thinking T wrote :
On 01/08/2017 05:59 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
T has brought this to us :
On 01/07/2017 04:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:59:37 -0000, T wrote:

On 01/05/2017 11:01 AM, Bod wrote:
Yes we do. We all believe in Jesus Christ as our savior.

Saviour from what?

Hell among other things

Since intelligent folk don't believe in hell, I say "********".


That is just baloney itself. Einstein didn't think that
the quantum theory was correct because "God is not random".
A lot of very smart people are believers.

Be careful, playing golf for eternity ...

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of
human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still
primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No
interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

~Albert Einstein

Go look over he
http://spaceandmotion.com/albert-ein...n-theology.htm

A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate,
of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most
radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion
that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense,
and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man. (Albert Einstein)

Or he

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi...ert_Einste in


"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions,
a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a
personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly.
If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our
science can reveal it."

Correct, he believed in science.

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 8:30:10 PM UTC-6, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 01:58:15 -0000, Uncle Monster wrote:

On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 11:50:43 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Sunday, January 8, 2017 at 9:42:17 AM UTC-5, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jan 2017 20:32:51 -0800
T wrote:

On 01/07/2017 04:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:59:37 -0000, T wrote:

On 01/05/2017 11:01 AM, Bod wrote:
Yes we do. We all believe in Jesus Christ as our savior.

Saviour from what?

Hell among other things

Since intelligent folk don't believe in hell, I say "********".


That is just baloney itself. Einstein didn't think that
the quantum theory was correct because "God is not random".
A lot of very smart people are believers.

Be careful, playing golf for eternity ...

Have you ever noticed how all those that profess the is no God
seems very afraid?
Wonder why they are so afraid of something that does not exist??????

Really? I'm not afraid of anything except physical threats. Fire,
disease, etc.

Cindy Hamilton

You left out creepy clowns. ヽ(ヅ)ノ

[8~{} Uncle Clownish Monster

Clowns are only scary when they're naked.
--


Like I wrote,"Creepy Clowns". (ツ)_/¯

http://weirdnews.about.com/od/weirdp...alen.htm#step4

[8~{} Uncle Nekid Monster

On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 04:47:22 -0000, Bod wrote:

On 08/01/2017 21:45, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:32:51 -0000, T wrote:

On 01/07/2017 04:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jan 2017 01:59:37 -0000, T wrote:

On 01/05/2017 11:01 AM, Bod wrote:
Yes we do. We all believe in Jesus Christ as our savior.

Saviour from what?

Hell among other things

Since intelligent folk don't believe in hell, I say "********".


That is just baloney itself. Einstein didn't think that
the quantum theory was correct because "God is not random".
A lot of very smart people are believers.

Be careful, playing golf for eternity ...

Imagine what Einstein could have achieved if he didn't believe in that
nonsense, clouding his scientific judgement.

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but
have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called
religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the
world so far as our science can reveal it" (Albert Einstein, 1954)

He believed in some weird **** called Spinozism.

--
In the UK, 17% of employees are health and safety officers.
Say NO! to health and safety in the workplace, before there are no real workers left!
Look out for yourself and stop blaming each other like 6 year olds!

On 1/8/2017 11:42 PM, T wrote:
On 01/07/2017 12:03 PM, Muggles wrote:
Matthew 23:9
New International Version

And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and
he is in heaven.

Then it says

10 Nor are you to be called instructors [teacher/rabbi], for you have
one Instructor, the Messiah

and

11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt
themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be
exalted.

And that is why taking things one sentence at a time
can lead to wild misinterpretations. If in doubt, ask
yourself why those personally taught by Jesus used both
words.

It is an admonition against our pomposity (versus 11 and 12).
Not a command to not use certain works (father and teacher).
And a great example of how things can be taken wildly out of
context when one only relies on himself to interpret
what he reads. And why we need an authority over the bible.
So misinterpretations don't take on a life of their own.

I don't think so. It's not about one particular sentence - it's about
the principle and attitudes of putting men on a pedestal and giving them
the honor and glory that is only meant for Christ when they're only just
men.

Men are just men, as in mankind. Authority comes from God - not men put
in the position of having authority over others. Those in authority
only have the measure of authority the people allow them to have over
them, and when those in authority believe their "special", that's when
they stop being servants and expect the people to serve them.
--
Maggie

On 1/8/2017 11:47 PM, T wrote:
On 01/07/2017 12:03 PM, Muggles wrote:
When we study the scriptures ourselves we can understand
them.

Most of the time, yes. All of the time, no. We need to consult the
authority that wrote it. If we do not accept the authority, then
the Bible is just an interesting religious document.

Study involves time and seeking out multiple resources and researching
the history and time references, etc. Just because someone tells you
something doesn't mean they're right, and that's how I'll always see
anyone who sits in a seat of authority.


--
Maggie