Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the
motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning ,
rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without
either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering
rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top
of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance .
I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...
--
Snag

On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the
motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning ,
rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without
either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering
rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top
of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance .
I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starter+toyota+4runner+1999

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:02 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the
motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning ,
rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without
either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering
rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top
of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance .
I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...

This video might help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB0GXj5s4Ag

Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying
to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted
and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried
twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any
way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or
possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come
out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure
if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now
because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999

Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't
even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide
forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like
it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to
get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance .
Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough .
--
Snag

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:02 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the
motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning ,
rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without
either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering
rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top
of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance .
I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...
Drop the half shaft. I believe that is the recommended procedure. I
was a Toyota tech for over 12 years total, but before the V6 and
independent suspension 4x4s.

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:44:22 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the
motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning ,
rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without
either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering
rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top
of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance .
I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starter+toyota+4runner+1999
Definitely easier than pulling the half shaft - That looks like the
simplest way.

wrote:
On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:44:22 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote:

On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying
to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it
unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out
. Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just
isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front
drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like
it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack
, but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled
off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking
things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starter+toyota+4runner+1999
Definitely easier than pulling the half shaft - That looks like the
simplest way.

Definitely less work ! I may not have to pull the wheel , looks at first
glance like I can get to the bolts on the brake line by just turning the
wheels full left .
--
Snag

On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying
to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted
and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried
twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any
way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or
possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come
out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure
if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now
because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999

Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't
even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide
forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like
it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to
get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance .
Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough .
--
Snag

I'm pretty sure I heard you say "hopefully my floor jack will high enough to get the vehicle
up on jack stands."

I put a 4x4 and a small steel plate on the saddle of my floor jack when I need a little more lift.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying
to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it
unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it
out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there
just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the
front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks
like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the
rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I
pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start
breaking things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999

Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared
I didn't even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual
just says "slide forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain
(I didn't) , looks like it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it .
I'll have to figure out how to get the tire off since I have it on
ramps for underside clearance . Hopefully my floor jack will go high
enough .
--
Snag

I'm pretty sure I heard you say "hopefully my floor jack will high
enough to get the vehicle
up on jack stands."

I didn't say that ... the car is up on ramps now .

I put a 4x4 and a small steel plate on the saddle of my floor jack
when I need a little more lift.

I may not need to pull the wheel if I can get access by turning the wheels
full left . If not , I think I can lift the ramp and all , put a jackstand
under the lower a-frame then lower the jack . That will take the weight off
the wheel and let me remove it . I wish my friend was still running the
antique car restoration business , I'd be doing this in a heated bay with a
frame lift . Sure made rebuilding the front suspension of my '86 GMC p/u a
lot easier .
--
Snag

there is a Yahoo group with very knowledgeable Toyota techs..



I joined it so long ago I don't recall how..

You can figure it out i'm sure.

I think it is an email list server, even older than newsgroups.

m

there is a Yahoo group with very knowledgeable Toyota techs..

I joined it so long ago I don't recall how..
You can figure it out i'm sure.
I think it is an email list server, even older than newsgroups.
m


Try this link :

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info

If I remember correctly - from using other Yahoo-Groups -
you can read through the existing posts anytime -
but need to register/join to post topics.
It's been a few years but I have found several of these
groups to be very helpful - eg specific makes of vintage
sewing machines Elna, Necchi ; WheelHorse garden tractors.
John T.

On 2016-12-12, wrote:

Try this link :

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info

......or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota

It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of.

nb

notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-12, wrote:

Try this link :

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info

.....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota

It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of.

nb


Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all !

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .
--
Snag

In article , says...


Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all !

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .


Another one of the the things that you pull the engine out to replace a
part.

Youtube has lots of info if you can find it. I have found on some
sites like Autozone that sell replacement parts they often have a place
that shows how it is done.

On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:00:30 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-12, wrote:

Try this link :

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info

.....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota

It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of.

nb


Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all !

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .
--
Snag

I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts
which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension
with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny.
It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench,
one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to
get the torx socket onto the bolt.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .
--
Snag

I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts
which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension
with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny.
It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench,
one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to
get the torx socket onto the bolt.

I couldn't get a rear spark plug (passenger side) out one time on a 67
Chevy -- drove me nuts, not getting the socket in the right way. I
finally removed the motor mount nut on the frame and jacked that side
of the engine up a tad so I could get the socket aligned. Used a floor
jack and a block of wood on the bell housing so not to break anything.
A 308 V8 engine. It was a bitch :-)

trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:00:30 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-12, wrote:

Try this link :

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info

.....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota

It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of.

nb


Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all !

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after
viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that
way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that
hole . --
Snag

I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts
which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension
with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny.
It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench,
one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to
get the torx socket onto the bolt.

1996 Chevy Corsica , need a long extension like that to unbolt the tranny
from the motor . At least on that one you can see the bolt ...
--
Snag

On 12/11/16 3:31 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying
to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted
and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried
twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any
way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or
possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come
out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure
if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now
because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ...

This help??

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999

Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't
even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide
forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like
it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to
get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance .
Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough .


The problem with Chilton manuals is, for example, when you're looking
how to remove the engine from- perhaps a '97 F-150, it will say
something along the lines of:

Carefully open your tool box, select a 10 mm wrench (this will be the
long thing with a claw on the end and a 10 stamped on it). Next, find
the hood release lever inside the car (bottom of dash just to left of
the steering wheel), carefully pull the lever toward you until it clicks
and hood pops up.

Then carefully insert your gloved hand under the front edge of the hood
to find the secondary release level. Push it gently to the left to free
the hood and slowly raise it.

Finally, take your 10mm wench in your left hand (claw forward), pick up
the other tools you need in your right hand, and remove the engine-
being careful not to let any coolant, oil, or gas spill onto the ground
and damage the environment....


--
The road ahead is going to be tough for Mr. Trump, what with his lack of
community organizing experience.
- @patsajak

On 2016-12-12, Wade Garrett wrote:

The problem with Chilton manuals is.....

They're crap!

If you cannot get an official HELM manual, buy a Haynes manual.

http://www.helminc.com

Haynes has very handy tips included in their manuals. Better exploded
drawings and photos, too.

I recall having a Haynes manual fer my '74 Dodge van. It included
plans for contructing an engine hanger out of regular old pipe
sections one could easily buy off-the-shelf at any hardware store.
Using this homemade fixture (plans provided by Haynes), I was able to
switch out the automatic transmission, on my van, with a basic floor
jack in about 20 mins!!! I'm not exaggerating!

I'll qualify myself by saying I learned to read Japanese Motorcycle
manuals way back in 1970. I KNOW manuals and I wouldn't give you a
newly minted nickel for a crappy Chilton manual ....of any age.

nb

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:11:08 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .
--
Snag

I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts
which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension
with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny.
It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench,
one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to
get the torx socket onto the bolt.

I couldn't get a rear spark plug (passenger side) out one time on a 67
Chevy -- drove me nuts, not getting the socket in the right way. I
finally removed the motor mount nut on the frame and jacked that side
of the engine up a tad so I could get the socket aligned. Used a floor
jack and a block of wood on the bell housing so not to break anything.
A 308 V8 engine. It was a bitch :-)
Chevy never made a 308 -----

The only way to change plugs on a V8 Monza was to remove the engine
mount. Same on a 428 CobraJet Mustang, back around 1968 or '69

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 18:24:23 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:11:08 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a
youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only
one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole .
--
Snag

I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts
which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension
with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny.
It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench,
one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to
get the torx socket onto the bolt.

I couldn't get a rear spark plug (passenger side) out one time on a 67
Chevy -- drove me nuts, not getting the socket in the right way. I
finally removed the motor mount nut on the frame and jacked that side
of the engine up a tad so I could get the socket aligned. Used a floor
jack and a block of wood on the bell housing so not to break anything.
A 308 V8 engine. It was a bitch :-)

Chevy never made a 308 -----

Whatever. 307 it was a damn hassle. I'm to old to remember.

The only way to change plugs on a V8 Monza was to remove the engine
mount. Same on a 428 CobraJet Mustang, back around 1968 or '69