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Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get
the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... -- Snag |
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On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starter+toyota+4runner+1999 |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:02 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This video might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB0GXj5s4Ag |
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Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999 Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance . Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough . -- Snag |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:02 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... Drop the half shaft. I believe that is the recommended procedure. I was a Toyota tech for over 12 years total, but before the V6 and independent suspension 4x4s. |
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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:44:22 -0600, Dean Hoffman
wrote: On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=starter+toyota+4runner+1999 Definitely easier than pulling the half shaft - That looks like the simplest way. |
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On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote: On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999 Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance . Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough . -- Snag I'm pretty sure I heard you say "hopefully my floor jack will high enough to get the vehicle up on jack stands." I put a 4x4 and a small steel plate on the saddle of my floor jack when I need a little more lift. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: Dean Hoffman wrote: On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999 Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance . Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough . -- Snag I'm pretty sure I heard you say "hopefully my floor jack will high enough to get the vehicle up on jack stands." I didn't say that ... the car is up on ramps now . I put a 4x4 and a small steel plate on the saddle of my floor jack when I need a little more lift. I may not need to pull the wheel if I can get access by turning the wheels full left . If not , I think I can lift the ramp and all , put a jackstand under the lower a-frame then lower the jack . That will take the weight off the wheel and let me remove it . I wish my friend was still running the antique car restoration business , I'd be doing this in a heated bay with a frame lift . Sure made rebuilding the front suspension of my '86 GMC p/u a lot easier . -- Snag |
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there is a Yahoo group with very knowledgeable Toyota techs..
I joined it so long ago I don't recall how.. You can figure it out i'm sure. I think it is an email list server, even older than newsgroups. m |
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there is a Yahoo group with very knowledgeable Toyota techs.. I joined it so long ago I don't recall how.. You can figure it out i'm sure. I think it is an email list server, even older than newsgroups. m Try this link : https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info If I remember correctly - from using other Yahoo-Groups - you can read through the existing posts anytime - but need to register/join to post topics. It's been a few years but I have found several of these groups to be very helpful - eg specific makes of vintage sewing machines Elna, Necchi ; WheelHorse garden tractors. John T. |
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notbob wrote:
On 2016-12-12, wrote: Try this link : https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info .....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of. nb Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all ! I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole . -- Snag |
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On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:00:30 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
notbob wrote: On 2016-12-12, wrote: Try this link : https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info .....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of. nb Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all ! I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole . -- Snag I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny. It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench, one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to get the torx socket onto the bolt. |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote: I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole . -- Snag I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny. It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench, one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to get the torx socket onto the bolt. I couldn't get a rear spark plug (passenger side) out one time on a 67 Chevy -- drove me nuts, not getting the socket in the right way. I finally removed the motor mount nut on the frame and jacked that side of the engine up a tad so I could get the socket aligned. Used a floor jack and a block of wood on the bell housing so not to break anything. A 308 V8 engine. It was a bitch :-) |
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trader_4 wrote:
On Monday, December 12, 2016 at 1:00:30 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote: notbob wrote: On 2016-12-12, wrote: Try this link : https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Toyotas_Only/info .....or this newsgroup: alt.autos.toyota It's the only one with any traffic, to speak of. nb Thanks for the info on Toyota groups , alla y'all ! I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole . -- Snag I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny. It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench, one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to get the torx socket onto the bolt. 1996 Chevy Corsica , need a long extension like that to unbolt the tranny from the motor . At least on that one you can see the bolt ... -- Snag |
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On 12/11/16 3:31 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
Dean Hoffman wrote: On 12/11/16 1:32 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: Anybody out there with experience woking on Toyotas ? I'm trying to get the starter out of my wife's 99 4Runner 4X4 . Got it unbolted and off the motor , but can't figure out how to get it out . Tried twisting , turning , rotating , flipping , and there just isn't any way that I can see without either dropping the front drive axle or possibly dropping the steering rack - it looks like it MIGHT come out if I pull the oil line that's on top of the rack , but not sure if that will give me enough clearance . I pulled off for now because I was frustrated enough to start breaking things ... This help?? https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...a+4runner+1999 Yes , it did thank you very much . I was so ****ed and frustrared I didn't even think about checking the web ... the Chilton manual just says "slide forward to remove" . I was trying to beat the rain (I didn't) , looks like it'll br tomorrow before I get back on it . I'll have to figure out how to get the tire off since I have it on ramps for underside clearance . Hopefully my floor jack will go high enough . The problem with Chilton manuals is, for example, when you're looking how to remove the engine from- perhaps a '97 F-150, it will say something along the lines of: Carefully open your tool box, select a 10 mm wrench (this will be the long thing with a claw on the end and a 10 stamped on it). Next, find the hood release lever inside the car (bottom of dash just to left of the steering wheel), carefully pull the lever toward you until it clicks and hood pops up. Then carefully insert your gloved hand under the front edge of the hood to find the secondary release level. Push it gently to the left to free the hood and slowly raise it. Finally, take your 10mm wench in your left hand (claw forward), pick up the other tools you need in your right hand, and remove the engine- being careful not to let any coolant, oil, or gas spill onto the ground and damage the environment.... -- The road ahead is going to be tough for Mr. Trump, what with his lack of community organizing experience. - @patsajak |
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On 2016-12-12, Wade Garrett wrote:
The problem with Chilton manuals is..... They're crap! If you cannot get an official HELM manual, buy a Haynes manual. http://www.helminc.com Haynes has very handy tips included in their manuals. Better exploded drawings and photos, too. I recall having a Haynes manual fer my '74 Dodge van. It included plans for contructing an engine hanger out of regular old pipe sections one could easily buy off-the-shelf at any hardware store. Using this homemade fixture (plans provided by Haynes), I was able to switch out the automatic transmission, on my van, with a basic floor jack in about 20 mins!!! I'm not exaggerating! I'll qualify myself by saying I learned to read Japanese Motorcycle manuals way back in 1970. I KNOW manuals and I wouldn't give you a newly minted nickel for a crappy Chilton manual ....of any age. ;) nb |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:11:08 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:51:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4 wrote: I did manage to get the old one out and the new installed after viewing a youtube video at the link Dean provided - and even that way there is only one orientation that lets the unit come out that hole . -- Snag I did a BMW X5 starter and that was no fun either. To get the bolts which you can't even see out, you have to use a 3 ft long extension with a swivel end on a ratchet and go over the top of the tranny. It takes two people, one behind the tranny to work the wrench, one at the starter to hand feel where you almost can't reach to get the torx socket onto the bolt. I couldn't get a rear spark plug (passenger side) out one time on a 67 Chevy -- drove me nuts, not getting the socket in the right way. I finally removed the motor mount nut on the frame and jacked that side of the engine up a tad so I could get the socket aligned. Used a floor jack and a block of wood on the bell housing so not to break anything. A 308 V8 engine. It was a bitch :-) Chevy never made a 308 ----- The only way to change plugs on a V8 Monza was to remove the engine mount. Same on a 428 CobraJet Mustang, back around 1968 or '69 |
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