My tank has no bladder supposedly. The tank air release valve is leaking
water when pump is engaged. As I understand it, the pump pumps air and water
and the air must be released. The air release valve releases the air. This
looks like a tire valve but supposed does not operate like one. Such a valve
would be used to pump air into a bladder-type tank. I do not have this. I
have a bladder-less tank, so I need the valve that will release air.. Just
bought a valve from the clerk who knew exactly what I wanted but sold me an
air inlet valve instead. I removed the core and checked it out. Can you sell
me what I need???

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On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:44:08 AM UTC-5, Chumley Jr. wrote:
My tank has no bladder supposedly. The tank air release valve is leaking
water when pump is engaged. As I understand it, the pump pumps air and water
and the air must be released. The air release valve releases the air. This
looks like a tire valve but supposed does not operate like one. Such a valve
would be used to pump air into a bladder-type tank. I do not have this. I
have a bladder-less tank, so I need the valve that will release air.. Just
bought a valve from the clerk who knew exactly what I wanted but sold me an
air inlet valve instead. I removed the core and checked it out. Can you sell
me what I need???

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I would imagine that what you need depends on the particular air volume
control that your tank has. The ones I'm familiar with do not release
air. The volume control is attached to the tank at a level that the
water reaches when at max level. The air control has a line connected
to the pump suction. If water gets too high in the tank, meaning there
is too little air, then the air control allows a small amount of air to
be drawn in on the suction line when the pump runs. That adds air to
the tank, until the air/water balance is right again.

Why can't you take this valve part to the local plumbing supply and
show them what you need?

On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:44:01 +0000, Chumley Jr.
m wrote:

My tank has no bladder supposedly. The tank air release valve is leaking
water when pump is engaged. As I understand it, the pump pumps air and water
and the air must be released. The air release valve releases the air. This
looks like a tire valve but supposed does not operate like one. Such a valve
would be used to pump air into a bladder-type tank. I do not have this. I
have a bladder-less tank, so I need the valve that will release air.. Just
bought a valve from the clerk who knew exactly what I wanted but sold me an
air inlet valve instead. I removed the core and checked it out. Can you sell
me what I need???

I have never heard of what you are describing (but that doesn't mean
you aren't right). Without a bladder, most simple systems lose their
air because the air can disolve in the water. That valve would be
used to add air - not release it. If the valve is on the top of your
tank and water is leaking out, that would mean you don't have any air
and the pump will cycle too often. (My apologies if what you have
isn't what I am picturing in my mind).

replying to Pat, D Forr wrote:
You are incorrect. A Bladderless Pressure tank is not common but they do have
a pressure relief system. The pump is designed to push air into the system so
the tank does not fill completely with water, however, when the air builds up
to a certain level the pressure is suppose to be released. I am having the
same issue and can't find this relief valve anywhere.

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On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 3:44:06 PM UTC-4, D Forr wrote:
replying to Pat, D Forr wrote:
You are incorrect. A Bladderless Pressure tank is not common but they do have
a pressure relief system. The pump is designed to push air into the system so
the tank does not fill completely with water, however, when the air builds up
to a certain level the pressure is suppose to be released. I am having the
same issue and can't find this relief valve anywhere.

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Never saw one with an air pressure relief valve. I have seen various
types with air level controls that work by letting air into the suction
side of the pump whenever the water is above the level of the control
and the control is mounted in the middle to upper part of the tank.
That keeps the water to air ratio correct.
It has to respond to the water level, not the pressure. You could have
60 PSI in the tank with it all air or with it 99% water, ie water logged.
The pressure would still be 60 PSI.

On 7/31/2019 12:44 PM, D Forr wrote:
replying to Pat, D Forr wrote:
You are incorrect. A Bladderless Pressure tank is not common but they do
have
a pressure relief system. The pump is designed to push air into the
system so
the tank does not fill completely with water, however, when the air
builds up
to a certain level the pressure is suppose to be released. I am having the
same issue and can't find this relief valve anywhere.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Water-So...V100/203990028


There are always air bleed valves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bleeding_valve

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:48:42 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 7/31/2019 12:44 PM, D Forr wrote:
replying to Pat, D Forr wrote:
You are incorrect. A Bladderless Pressure tank is not common but they do
have
a pressure relief system. The pump is designed to push air into the
system so
the tank does not fill completely with water, however, when the air
builds up
to a certain level the pressure is suppose to be released. I am having the
same issue and can't find this relief valve anywhere.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Water-So...V100/203990028


That's an example of what I was talking about.





There are always air bleed valves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bleeding_valve


Which are used to burp systems to get all the air out, air that should
not be there. Not for water pump tanks. I suppose there could be
systems that always draw some air in on the suction side, then use
an air volume control on the tank to let out the excess. But that would
be less efficient and I've never seen one.

On 8/1/2019 5:44 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 12:48:42 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
On 7/31/2019 12:44 PM, D Forr wrote:
replying to Pat, D Forr wrote:
You are incorrect. A Bladderless Pressure tank is not common but they do
have
a pressure relief system. The pump is designed to push air into the
system so
the tank does not fill completely with water, however, when the air
builds up
to a certain level the pressure is suppose to be released. I am having the
same issue and can't find this relief valve anywhere.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Water-So...V100/203990028


That's an example of what I was talking about.





There are always air bleed valves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_bleeding_valve


Which are used to burp systems to get all the air out, air that should
not be there. Not for water pump tanks. I suppose there could be
systems that always draw some air in on the suction side, then use
an air volume control on the tank to let out the excess. But that would
be less efficient and I've never seen one.


Articles I've read suggest that it's fairly common to just have a
section of the supply line that drains when the pump is off, filling
with air, so a little air comes in each time the pump turns on.

If you have a pump in the ground then you need an air release to let air out of the tank if too much air gets in the tank.we sell the air release in ms

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 15:31:05 +0000, Georgemk1 posted for all of us to digest...


If you have a pump in the ground then you need an air release to let air out of the tank if too much air gets in the tank.we sell the air release in ms

What if the tank has a bladder?

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