its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Mr. Mark wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

SNIP Cross-Post
That must be a large blower (big furnace?). Approx 10 Amps (@ 120V).
Believeable though.
The thermostat may have a FAN switch which is set to "ON",
rather than AUTO.
OR...the FAN/LIMIT switch inside the furnace is stuck On.

If electrical troubleshooting isn't your field, get a service type in.

Jim

Mr. Mark wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

SNIP Cross-Post
That must be a large blower (big furnace?). Approx 10 Amps (@ 120V).
Believeable though.
The thermostat may have a FAN switch which is set to "ON",
rather than AUTO.
OR...the FAN/LIMIT switch inside the furnace is stuck On.

If electrical troubleshooting isn't your field, get a service type in.

Jim

Is your fan set to On not Auto on the thermostat, 1000 kwh is a bit
high for a fan. what makes you think it is using 1000kwh

Is your fan set to On not Auto on the thermostat, 1000 kwh is a bit
high for a fan. what makes you think it is using 1000kwh

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark) wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Damn buddy. Its your electric furnace. Call someone out to fix the
problem and stop worrying your ass off.
Bubba

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark) wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Damn buddy. Its your electric furnace. Call someone out to fix the
problem and stop worrying your ass off.
Bubba

Mr. Mark wrote:

it's chewing up a lot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?


The fan relay switch contacts may be stuck closed --or on. First,
disconnect the power.
You could tap it lightly with the insulated head of a screw driver.
Connect power, still run?
Don't blame me if you brake it! Welded switch contact points won't
release with tapping.
Also, tap the furnace near the fan/limit switch.
If either stops the blower, --set the fan switch to a higher shut-off
temperature.
If a defective switch, disconnect the power source, and replace the
defective component.
Don't electrocute yourself!
If you don't know where those switches are, call a tech. -Darrell

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:30:10 GMT, (Rusty) wrote:

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark)
wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Many people choose to have the furnace fan running constantly to
circulate air in the house. There is sometimes a switch on the
furnace housing that has three positions - AUTO, OFF & ON. If you
see such a rocker switch, and it is in the ON position, switch it to
the AUTO position so that the fan only runs when the furnace is
operating.

Failing this, it could be a faulty furnace thermostat - not the
house thermostat - that is staying closed even when the furnace
temperature has cooled off after running. If so, call a furnace
maintenance man to reset it or change it. If you know what you are
doing you can adjust it yourself, but why risk making it worse.


Gee, I wasn't aware that 'resetting' a faulty thermostat fixed
anything.

I thought either it was broke or it wasn't.

I thought if it was broke, then someone who knows what they're
doing needs to replace it, or else if it's not, then someone needs to
throw the little switch.



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You have a furnace to keep warm and an AC to keep cool. There is a cost
associated with that. Part of the cost, in a forced air system, is the
fan. Professional HVAC engineers whose specialty was commercial units
for office buildings and manufacturing plants, convinced me years ago
that running the fan continuously, and letting the heat or AC cycle on
and off as required, was the best way to operate a commercial or home
system. They all ran their home fans full time. So did their servicemen.
(In those days they were all servicemen, today they are probably service
persons.) We have not turned ours off except for maintenance since.
This results in more uniform temperatures throughout your house, plus
your air is continuously circulating and filtering. You get used to the
sound of the fan, and it is not objectionable. You are not aware when
the heat or AC kicks in. There are no dramatic swings in the temp. And
because your motor is not starting and stopping, it probably lasts
longer.

Since yours has been running constantly for whatever reason, you already
have these advantages.

SkyBlue

"Mr. Mark" wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark) wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

My thermostat has a 'fan on/auto' position. While on, it always runs
the fan and while in auto, it may or may not be running the fan,
depending on some safety controls. You likely have a safety control
that needs some help from a licenesed ... yada yada yada.

Also, I had shut most of the breakers and was going in the attic
doing some wiring when I noticed that something was drawing power
while everything was shut off. Turns out that my a/c compressor has a
crankcase heater that runs while the unit is off but breakers are on.
But it was more like a $5/ mo drain.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:30:10 GMT, (Rusty) wrote:

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark)
wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Many people choose to have the furnace fan running constantly to
circulate air in the house. There is sometimes a switch on the
furnace housing that has three positions - AUTO, OFF & ON. If you
see such a rocker switch, and it is in the ON position, switch it to
the AUTO position so that the fan only runs when the furnace is
operating.

Failing this, it could be a faulty furnace thermostat - not the
house thermostat - that is staying closed even when the furnace
temperature has cooled off after running. If so, call a furnace
maintenance man to reset it or change it. If you know what you are
doing you can adjust it yourself, but why risk making it worse.


Oh goody. A new resident wanna be idiot trying to give out info.
Incorrect info at that.
Bubba

"Bubba" wrote in message
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Oh goody. A new resident wanna be idiot trying to give out info.
Incorrect info at that.
Bubba

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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My thought too. Or maybe something in the auto circuit went
south.
But the fan isn't large, it would have to be huge. 10 A is
probably the circuit maximum for the furnace. Most likely
the blower is 1/2 hp (350 watts) or less and his 1000 kwh
per month comes out to nearly 1400 watts. So, no way is
that just the fan

Well for info he

ge 1/4 hp = 4.2a

ge 1/3 hp = 6.2a

ge 1/2 hp = 7.3a

ge 3/4 hp = 10.3a

So, this blows your theory of a blower motor not pulling 10A.

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:25:31 GMT, "kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com )
see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote:

"Bubba" wrote in message
.. .
Oh goody. A new resident wanna be idiot trying to give out info.
Incorrect info at that.
Bubba

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

"Scott McDaniel" wrote in message
...
Don't really think it's a slur ... the type of switch that Rusty was
describing is only found on mobile home furnaces (or mobile home furnaces
incorrectly installed in site-built applications). Course if you were in
the
HVAC trade you'd know that.

Why, thank you there, Scott!! :-)

I'm glad to see some of us can get it! :-)

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wrote in message
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Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Well you, unlike Scott (& I'm sure many others here) that got the comment,
are clueless!

I'm sorry if I offended you and ya buddy in dat thar trailer court!!
How's dat fur ya?

(now that's a slur)

And as they say............if you don't like that..........BLOW ME!!

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"kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com ) see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote in message
t...
wrote in message
...
Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Well you, unlike Scott (& I'm sure many others here) that got the comment,
are clueless!

I'm sorry if I offended you and ya buddy in dat thar trailer court!!
How's dat fur ya?

(now that's a slur)

And as they say............if you don't like that..........BLOW ME!!

suck dammit....don't blow

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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:30:53 -0400, "Scott McDaniel"
wrote:

Don't really think it's a slur ... the type of switch that Rusty was
describing is only found on mobile home furnaces (or mobile home furnaces
incorrectly installed in site-built applications). Course if you were in the
HVAC trade you'd know that.

wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:25:31 GMT, "kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com )
see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote:

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

wrote in message
...

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.


You live in a trailer too??
Just trying to understand your sensitivity!
Greg

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:30:53 -0400, "Scott McDaniel"
wrote:

Don't really think it's a slur ... the type of switch that Rusty was
describing is only found on mobile home furnaces (or mobile home furnaces
incorrectly installed in site-built applications). Course if you were in
the
HVAC trade you'd know that.

wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:25:31 GMT, "kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com )
see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote:

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

Bottom posting so the bottom feeders can follow..

Can you stop with the freaking cross posting to groups that really dont give
a damn?
There is nothing, nothing at all that makes the person that made the comment
a bigot.
DAMN...we ALL..well..those of us in the trade, know that most every mobile
home has a fan switch like the one that the clueless one was commenting
about, and why its there, and who you can thank for it....and that they are
not found on a stick built home unit 99.9% of the time, and why you wont
find one there.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:39:39 -0500, "Greg O"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

You live in a trailer too??
Just trying to understand your sensitivity!

And why might that matter, hmmm? You have a problem with trailers?

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 00:01:17 GMT, "kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com )
see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Well you, unlike Scott (& I'm sure many others here) that got the comment,
are clueless!

I'm sorry if I offended you and ya buddy in dat thar trailer court!!
How's dat fur ya?

(now that's a slur)

And as they say............if you don't like that..........BLOW ME!!

Why would I since you are so obviously unclean?

wrote in message
...
Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

You sir are a complete idiot!!!

You have *NOT* been here long enough to understand the comment!
It goes with the flow that's been here for quit some time.

It's a comment that is about more than just the posters comment.
We that read & reply here often..........GET it.......You don't!! Too BAD!!

Trailers are a breed of their own...............some good, some (most) bad.
Just like homemoaners........some bitch........and some are just bitches.

And as far as the posting goes.................we'll post where ever the
**** we want too!!

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wrote in message
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And as they say............if you don't like that..........BLOW ME!!

Why would I since you are so obviously unclean?

Cuz, that is your mentality level!

Maybe you can suck me clean then!!

Till then ****-off!

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"kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com ) see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote in message
t...
wrote in message
...
Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

You sir are a complete idiot!!!

You have *NOT* been here long enough to understand the comment!
It goes with the flow that's been here for quit some time.

It's a comment that is about more than just the posters comment.
We that read & reply here often..........GET it.......You don't!! Too
BAD!!

Trailers are a breed of their own...............some good, some (most)
bad.
Just like homemoaners........some bitch........and some are just bitches.

And as far as the posting goes.................we'll post where ever the
**** we want too!!

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Hey Blowhard...

You left out those damn tract homes built in the 30s for factory workers...
gimmie a row of singlewides any day over those...

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:30:38 GMT, "kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com )
see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote:

wrote in message
.. .

And why might that matter, hmmm? You have a problem with trailers?

No, just the dumbass that lives in them!!

And you assume that anyone who lives in a trailer is a dumbass?

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:39:39 -0500, "Greg O"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

And he must live in a trailer at that...lol

Uncalled for slur on people who live in trailers. Nothing wrong
with
trailers, per se, so don't insult them. Don't be a bigot. Focus on
the real issues.

Bottom posting so everyone can follow: ok, I accept the possible
rationale for the kjpro comment, but the snideness remains
reprehensible ("lol"???). We all have to live somewhere.

You live in a trailer too??
Just trying to understand your sensitivity!

And why might that matter, hmmm? You have a problem with trailers?


no problem, we don't do HVAC on trailer homes. We like to get paid for our
work!
Greg

"kjpro" ( kjpro @ starband . com ) see-my-sig-for-e-mail wrote in message
t...
wrote in message
...
And as they say............if you don't like that..........BLOW ME!!

Why would I since you are so obviously unclean?

Cuz, that is your mentality level!

Maybe you can suck me clean then!!

Till then ****-off!

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At least if he blows or sucks you, he won't be able to bite. Everyone knows
that those trailer trash people don't have any teeth.

Rusty
You tried to help some one with sensate information, and you get a
series of messages from people that only deserve the "Del" key.
Regards
Vlad

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:30:10 GMT, (Rusty) wrote:

On 23 Aug 2003 15:22:09 -0700, (Mr. Mark)
wrote:

its chewing up alot of electricity (1000 kw/h per month).
should it be running constantly? if not, how can i turn it off? and
should it be using this much electricity?

Many people choose to have the furnace fan running constantly to
circulate air in the house. There is sometimes a switch on the
furnace housing that has three positions - AUTO, OFF & ON. If you
see such a rocker switch, and it is in the ON position, switch it to
the AUTO position so that the fan only runs when the furnace is
operating.

Failing this, it could be a faulty furnace thermostat - not the
house thermostat - that is staying closed even when the furnace
temperature has cooled off after running. If so, call a furnace
maintenance man to reset it or change it. If you know what you are
doing you can adjust it yourself, but why risk making it worse.