"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

....temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

On 7/22/2014 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?


Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

"Cold" water cruises in the 80s in SW Florida all summer. Where is the
surprise?

Is that well water - shallow pipes?

Vegas is a lot hotter than here.

Municipal water is not that hot, here. Water tables can be 245 feet
below the surface. (high desert) Some in the desert have a shared
water source (cistern Co-Op's). Still I've never heard of water with
such high temps.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:18:23 -0700, Oren wrote:

...snip...
Municipal water is not that hot, here. Water tables can be 245 feet
below the surface. (high desert) Some in the desert have a shared
water source (cistern Co-Op's). Still I've never heard of water with
such high temps.


Here, north of Phoenix, our well is 626 feet down, so water is nice cool
temp. BUT! comes to the surface and then is stored in an 'above ground'
tank ...in the sun. plus 300 ft shallow pipe to house plus pipes run in
the attic, albeit in the insulation still in the attic. So...often in the
summer's afternoon the cold water all by itself is too hot to shower in.
so why am I paying the utilities company more than $30 a month for the hot
water heater?!

Actually, I was pleaantly surprised that the very hard water tastes pretty
decent and even makes great coffee, compared to the city supplied water,
which lines the pot with sludge and makes the coffee taste like a dead
fish.

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

"Cold" water cruises in the 80s in SW Florida all summer. Where is the
surprise?

Is that well water - shallow pipes?

Vegas is a lot hotter than here.

Municipal water is not that hot, here. Water tables can be 245 feet
below the surface. (high desert) Some in the desert have a shared
water source (cistern Co-Op's). Still I've never heard of water with
such high temps.

Hi,
Climate change causing higher ambient temp.? Up here pipes are at about
8 ft. down. Cold in summer, warm in winter. Time to sell the house and
move away B4 it's too late?

Frank wrote:
On 7/22/2014 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision


Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?


Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.
Hi,
As years go by, more and more I think we're living in heaven almost!

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:10:05 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 7/22/2014 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?


Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

I stopped at Gila Bend, AZ in 1988. My wife thought the motel had put
the plumbing in backwards. Wanted a cool shower.
Cold water was about 110.
Tasted bad enough I wouldn't put it in my radiator. First time I ever
bought bottled water.
A ranger told me he had a tempering tank in his basement to cool it
down a bit. Not much need for a water heater.

On 7/22/14, 5:11 PM, RobertMacy wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:18:23 -0700, Oren wrote:

...snip...
Municipal water is not that hot, here. Water tables can be 245 feet
below the surface. (high desert) Some in the desert have a shared
water source (cistern Co-Op's). Still I've never heard of water with
such high temps.


Here, north of Phoenix, our well is 626 feet down, so water is nice
cool temp. BUT! comes to the surface and then is stored in an 'above
ground' tank ...in the sun. plus 300 ft shallow pipe to house plus
pipes run in the attic, albeit in the insulation still in the attic.
So...often in the summer's afternoon the cold water all by itself is
too hot to shower in. so why am I paying the utilities company more
than $30 a month for the hot water heater?!

Actually, I was pleaantly surprised that the very hard water tastes
pretty decent and even makes great coffee, compared to the city
supplied water, *which lines the pot with sludge and makes the coffee
taste like a dead fish.*

Is that because it is pumped straight out of the CAP canal ??

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:16:17 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote:

Oren wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

"Cold" water cruises in the 80s in SW Florida all summer. Where is the
surprise?

Is that well water - shallow pipes?

Vegas is a lot hotter than here.

Municipal water is not that hot, here. Water tables can be 245 feet
below the surface. (high desert) Some in the desert have a shared
water source (cistern Co-Op's). Still I've never heard of water with
such high temps.

Hi,
Climate change causing higher ambient temp.? Up here pipes are at about
8 ft. down. Cold in summer, warm in winter. Time to sell the house and
move away B4 it's too late?

I'll make you an offer you can't refuse!

Damn, I love this global warming, or whatever the hell the loons are
calling it today. It's making me so damn much money I won't be able to
spend it all!

On 7/22/2014 5:25 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:10:05 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 7/22/2014 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?


Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

I stopped at Gila Bend, AZ in 1988. My wife thought the motel had put
the plumbing in backwards. Wanted a cool shower.
Cold water was about 110.
Tasted bad enough I wouldn't put it in my radiator. First time I ever
bought bottled water.
A ranger told me he had a tempering tank in his basement to cool it
down a bit. Not much need for a water heater.


Reminds me of guy I worked with that bought a house from the same
builder I had and pipes to his bathroom were reversed.

When he used the toilet, he got a hot flush

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:10:05 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 7/22/2014 3:29 PM, Oren wrote:
"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?


Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

I stopped at Gila Bend, AZ in 1988. My wife thought the motel had put
the plumbing in backwards. Wanted a cool shower.
Cold water was about 110.
Tasted bad enough I wouldn't put it in my radiator. First time I ever
bought bottled water.
A ranger told me he had a tempering tank in his basement to cool it
down a bit. Not much need for a water heater.

Hi,
In my working days I went to PHX a lot, often staying for months for new
product training in different seasons. Most dwellings there don't have
basement. plumbings are often exposed to outside.

Once in dead summer I took whole family down and we stayed at Hometel
then for 3 months. we lived by the pool side with free breakfast,
cocktails every day.
Wife and kids after returning home said no more trip to PHX in summer
time, LOL!

On 7/22/2014 4:10 PM, Frank wrote:

Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

Is it cooler, farther down?

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 7/22/2014 7:35 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/22/2014 4:10 PM, Frank wrote:

Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

Is it cooler, farther down?


Should be. I understand you reach a level where temperature is
constant, summer and winter. With geothermal you can use it to heat or
cool your house as needed.

As you know, in areas where it freezes building codes will give minimum
depths for water and sewer pipes. Here is is three feet and Tony says
where he is in Canada it is 8 feet. In Vegas couple of inches is OK.
My brother-in-law lives out there and I have never heard about water
being too hot so I assume his developer knew what he was doing to bury
pipes deep enough.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:49:41 -0700, Retired wrote:

...snip....
Is that because it is pumped straight out of the CAP canal ??

sorry, that was San Jose, CA city water. I've not tasted any of the city
waters here, except Rio Verde and Scottsdale.

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

"Cold" water cruises in the 80s in SW Florida all summer. Where is the
surprise?
Vegas is a lot hotter than here.

What gets me is that they think a new house will be beter than an old
house. A lot of people just assume new is better.

Back in Brooklyn, I fixed things for money, and I was at a girl's dorm
room and she was complaining about the picture on her 12" tv. I said
that you live in a steel frame building, get a wire and connect it to
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.

On 7/23/2014 1:20 AM, micky wrote:
What gets me is that they think a new house will be beter than an old
house. A lot of people just assume new is better.

Back in Brooklyn, I fixed things for money, and I was at a girl's dorm
room and she was complaining about the picture on her 12" tv. I said
that you live in a steel frame building, get a wire and connect it to
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.

My sister and her husband (both yuppies)
had a gasoline power generator that
didn't run right. So, they went and bought
another, gave me the old one. I cheerfully
load it in my truck and drove off with it.
Didn't even try to start it onsite.

Problem: Low on oil, and the oil level safety
switch was doing its assigned job. Add four
ounces of oil, and machine runs fine.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Stormin Mormon writes:
On 7/22/2014 4:10 PM, Frank wrote:

Here in the east, your well pipes could freeze if not buried deep
enough. It is no surprise that pipes only buried a couple of inches in
the hot climate of Vegas would heat the water. Stupid contractors
should have known this.

Is it cooler, farther down?

Subsurface temperature in a particular area is the mean yearly surface air
temperature (e.g. in central wisconsin, cave temperatures are around
52F.)

One would assume that the mean temperature is much greater in
southern Nevada.

The further down one goes, the warmer it gets :-)

Citation: Smerdon, J. E., H. N. Pollack, V. Cermak, J. W. Enz, M. Kresl, J. Safanda, and J. F. Wehmiller (2006), Daily, seasonal, and
annual relationships between air and subsurface temperatures, J. Geophys. Res., 111, D07101, doi:10.1029/2004JD005578.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 08:30:44 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/23/2014 1:20 AM, micky wrote:
What gets me is that they think a new house will be beter than an old
house. A lot of people just assume new is better.

Back in Brooklyn, I fixed things for money, and I was at a girl's dorm
room and she was complaining about the picture on her 12" tv. I said
that you live in a steel frame building, get a wire and connect it to
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.

I should have said that I had tried but failed to fix her sewing
machine. I said no charge, but she still felt like giving me the tv,
which worked fine when I got home. What she thought of as old, 5
years?, I thought of as new. Old would be 20 years.

My sister and her husband (both yuppies)
had a gasoline power generator that
didn't run right. So, they went and bought
another, gave me the old one. I cheerfully
load it in my truck and drove off with it.
Didn't even try to start it onsite.

Problem: Low on oil, and the oil level safety
switch was doing its assigned job. Add four
ounces of oil, and machine runs fine.

Good one.!

On 7/23/2014 2:32 PM, micky wrote:
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.

I should have said that I had tried but failed to fix her sewing
machine. I said no charge, but she still felt like giving me the tv,
which worked fine when I got home. What she thought of as old, 5
years?, I thought of as new. Old would be 20 years.


It's good to know I'm not the only one who
restores old equipment. Too many people rip
and replace, these days.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Oren posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

Don't you get it? It is the koolink wasser off the hidden nukeclear reaktor..
It is used for the Al Gore glowbell warming meazerments.

--
Tekkie

micky posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:56:37 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:29:27 -0700, Oren wrote:

"LAS VEGAS -- Imagine turning on the cold water tap only to find the
temperature won't get lower than 90 degrees. One northwest valley
subdivision has tried for months to cool down their water, but it's
still running warm."

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

"Cold" water cruises in the 80s in SW Florida all summer. Where is the
surprise?
Vegas is a lot hotter than here.

What gets me is that they think a new house will be beter than an old
house. A lot of people just assume new is better.

Back in Brooklyn, I fixed things for money, and I was at a girl's dorm
room and she was complaining about the picture on her 12" tv. I said
that you live in a steel frame building, get a wire and connect it to
the antenna screws (and I showed her where they were) and put the other
end out the window. I came back a week later, and she'd bought
another tv, which worked no better. I told her again to get a wire for
a better antenna, and she gave me the old tv.

Is it true the only picture she got was that of her own dorm room?

--
Tekkie

Frank posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP

Reminds me of guy I worked with that bought a house from the same
builder I had and pipes to his bathroom were reversed.

When he used the toilet, he got a hot flush


Should have done an up sell to a bidet!

--
Tekkie

On 7/28/2014 3:46 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
And I know how to SNIP

...temps at 90.4ºF...

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/26076303/lack-of-cold-water-plaguing-northwest-subdivision

Why is it blamed on well water and shallow pipes, if I get the drift
on this report?

Don't you get it? It is the koolink wasser off the hidden nukeclear reaktor..
It is used for the Al Gore glowbell warming meazerments.


Polution! If you visit American City....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrAuF2f_oI

"you can use the latest tooth paste, and then
rinse your mouth with industrial waste."
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..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..