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I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed.
Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. That some small amount of water comes out when activated tells you it's not a controller problem. Since it's the zone he was just working on, first suspicion would be that some debris is blocking the line and/or zone valve. If the wiring was loose, but partially connected, that might cause the problem, not sure. The valve might just partially open, but these valves use the electric solenoid to get them started, but then water pressure is what forces them open all the way. So, even with a bad connection, if it has enough to get it to start to open, many valves might then open fully. But whatever it is, sounds like it's likely related to the work just done. Some dirt for example could have been in the pipe and finally lodged in the valve. It's also possible though that the zone valve, etc went bad and it's unrelated. IDK why you think it might not have come on when he tested it. Seems illogical that he'd leave it that way, knowing he's going to have a call back. |
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"Dottie" wrote in message
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. If you turn on zone #1, everything that has water coming out is on zone #1; ditto zone #2, zone #3, etc. ____________________ Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? Well, the control valve for zone #1 is opening - water is dribbling from the heads - but it might be opening only slightly. The other possibilty is that there is an obstruction within the pipe that feeds the zone #1 heads. I vote for the valve problem. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. What would cause the valve to open partially ? Did I mention that before he worked on it -- when it was "leaking" -- it wasn't a leak. It was a full force stream of water. So something he did is blocking the water -- but I don't know how to check that. Is it something I can check or do I need to wait til they come back and let them do it. Not likely to be debris in all those sprinkler heads in Zone 1. |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 9:31:40 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote: I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part.. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. What would cause the valve to open partially ? A bad valve or insufficient water pressure at the valve. Maybe a poor connection in the valve wiring, but as I said before, I'm not sure how valves like that behave under that condition. I know they primarily use water pressure, not electricity to open the valve. The solenoid starts some water flow, then the water opens the valve the rest of the way. Did I mention that before he worked on it -- when it was "leaking" -- it wasn't a leak. It was a full force stream of water. So something he did is blocking the water -- but I don't know how to check that. Is it something I can check or do I need to wait til they come back and let them do it. Not likely to be debris in all those sprinkler heads in Zone 1. I agree it's not likely to be debris in all those separate heads, but it could still be debris somehow blocking the pipe leading to all of them. That seems a long shot though. Given that you're not experienced on any of this and that you paid the guy to do the work, I'd say just wait until he comes back. The first step in the diagnostic on this one would be to just manually open that zone valve and see what happens. On my valves, you can do that just by turning them a 1/4 turn. IDK if that's how they all work, etc. If they still don't come on, then you know the problem is not that the valve isn't opening. |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote: I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. What would cause the valve to open partially ? Did I mention that before he worked on it -- when it was "leaking" -- it wasn't a leak. It was a full force stream of water. So something he did is blocking the water -- but I don't know how to check that. Is it something I can check or do I need to wait til they come back and let them do it. Not likely to be debris in all those sprinkler heads in Zone 1. You wouldn't need debris at the sprinkler heads themselves, just blockage in the single pipe that feeds them from from the control valve. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. I went back and dug out two sprinkler heads - cleaned them both -- and the water standing in the pipe was clear and not muddy. I put them back on to see if there was a difference in how the water came out and there was none. It just dribbled out all the sprinkler heads -- so it is a pressure problem and not a debris problem. Will just wait now and see what he says. Thanks for all your help though. |
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Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Hi, Some one is coming out to take a look at? He will find the problem. In a case like this, what I do is switch zone between bad zone(zone 1 there now) to another good zone. Matter of switching a wire in the controller or in the zone valve box. My system is Rain Bird, 7 zones. |
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 06:31:40 -0700 (PDT), Dottie
wrote: What would cause the valve to open partially ? Did I mention that before he worked on it -- when it was "leaking" -- it wasn't a leak. It was a full force stream of water. So something he did is blocking the water -- but I don't know how to check that. Is it something I can check or do I need to wait til they come back and let them do it. Not likely to be debris in all those sprinkler heads in Zone 1. If the joint was open, dirt could have been getting into the tubing and the valve opening just pushed the debris further and blocked it up. It may or may not have been something he did. |
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"Dottie" wrote in message ... I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Was the bad joint uphill or downhill from the valve? Possibly he slopped enough glue in the joint that in flowed into the valve and messed it up, particularly if the joint was uphill from the valve. |
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Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Nobody else seems to have suggested that perhaps the origional leak came back. Low pressure/flow at the heads could certaintly be a symptom of that. |
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On Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:23:19 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
Dottie wrote: I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Nobody else seems to have suggested that perhaps the origional leak came back. Low pressure/flow at the heads could certaintly be a symptom of that. Usually with a leak where it's so big that only a trickle is left coming out of the heads, ie the water of an entire zone, it would result in water that's readily visible on the surface. That's what she had to start with. And if it happened where he just repaired it, the ground having been dug up, you'd surely have water boiling out of the ground right there. I guess it could be a totally new leak. With some systems, you can hear the normal sound of water running through pipes, like in the basement, where they exit the building, etc. If the OP's system makes those sounds, she could listen for the sound it makes when the bad zone is turned on vs the normal sound it makes with other zones. If they sound the same, then a lot of water is going somewhere, ie a leak. If it doesn't make a sound, while the other zones do, then you know water isn't flowing. |
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On 5/17/2014 8:09 AM, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. My first guess would be that he let a lot of dirt into the line, but even that shouldn't clog all of the sp. heads. If you know how to do it, try unscrewing a head and then turn on the zone to clear the pipe. Each sp. head should have a filter in it, so that could be cleaned as well. You called "a company"? The original installer? One with good references from a neighbor? If you don't know the company, hold off on any "replacement parts" until you know the system better. Here is a link to bookmark: http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/ The site has everything you could ever possibly want to know about sprinkers....it can be daunting, because there is so much info, but it has good trouble-shooting stuff, too. Is there any chance that the guy simply forgot to turn on the water again? Next guess is he wants to replace a solenoid or a controller; be careful out there. http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/faq/repair-valve.htm http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/f...d-drainage.htm |
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On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:04:15 AM UTC-4, NorMinn wrote:
On 5/17/2014 8:09 AM, Dottie wrote: I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part.. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. My first guess would be that he let a lot of dirt into the line, but even that shouldn't clog all of the sp. heads. If you know how to do it, try unscrewing a head and then turn on the zone to clear the pipe. She reported taking off two heads and there was no dirt clogging them. Each sp. head should have a filter in it, so that could be cleaned as well. She said the two were clean. You called "a company"? The original installer? One with good references from a neighbor? If you don't know the company, hold off on any "replacement parts" until you know the system better. Per the post, she called the company that just did the repair work on the leak. Here is a link to bookmark: http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/ The site has everything you could ever possibly want to know about sprinkers....it can be daunting, because there is so much info, but it has good trouble-shooting stuff, too. Is there any chance that the guy simply forgot to turn on the water again? If he did, then the other zones which she reported were working, wouldn't be working. Next guess is he wants to replace a solenoid or a controller; be careful out there. AFAIK, nobody replaces solenoids. They replace the zone valve. And if it's bad or even suspect, what wrong with that? They only cost $15. Not replacing the controller, I agree with. The other zones are working, even this one produces a trickle at the heads, so the zone valve is being at least partially activated. Very unlikely it's a controller problem. |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. I watched him pull the two pieces apart -- and he painted a thin line around one of them and pulled the other piece over it. Don't think it was too much glue. The water appears to be coming as far as the sprinkler heads but then they just softly dribble. |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. He asked "if this was the right zone" and pointed to some sprinkler heads in the front yard and I said "I think so" ... I was wrong. He was pointing to #2. So it wasn't something he deliberately did and I didn't deliberately mislead him. I explained I was still just learning where everything was. So it is possible the problem existed and neither of us was aware of it. One other thing -- he took the black rigid plastic cover from around the valve ... and worked on it ... then he let it dry and tested it. When he was satisfied he turned it off and replaced the plastic cover. He did not test it again. I am wondering if something got shaken loose when he put the cover back on ... just have to wait and see. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT), Dottie
wrote: I watched him pull the two pieces apart -- and he painted a thin line around one of them and pulled the other piece over it. Don't think it was too much glue. The water appears to be coming as far as the sprinkler heads but then they just softly dribble. Dottie, I've not read all this thread yet. At the sprinkler pop-up, there may be debris at the head. Removing the head and flushing it may be needed. At the control valve box - check that the valve knob isn't turned down - partially closed. You can turn on a zone by turning the knob. It may be partially closed. The way I identified my zones was to check the wire colors at the control box panel. Each zone wire color is different. Then identify the wire color at the control valve(s) being used. Write it down. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT), Dottie
wrote: The water appears to be coming as far as the sprinkler heads but then they just softly dribble. Pop-up sprinklers do fail. A weak spring is an example or the riser may be binding due to wear. . If you have a replacement (extra), replace one and check. |
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On Sat, 17 May 2014 10:08:15 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: In a case like this, what I do is switch zone between bad zone(zone 1 there now) to another good zone. Matter of switching a wire in the controller or in the zone valve box. Gold Star! At the valve box, it is good time to check for corroded wires, too. -- "People who worry about crocodiles are smart!" -Joe Machi |
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On Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:31:36 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 18 May 2014 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT), Dottie wrote: The water appears to be coming as far as the sprinkler heads but then they just softly dribble. Pop-up sprinklers do fail. A weak spring is an example or the riser may be binding due to wear. . If you have a replacement (extra), replace one and check. Except that it's several heads, some of them are new. And regarding your other post, she also reported that she removed two of them, checked, no dirt. |
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On Sun, 18 May 2014 11:41:07 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: Pop-up sprinklers do fail. A weak spring is an example or the riser may be binding due to wear. . If you have a replacement (extra), replace one and check. Except that it's several heads, some of them are new. And regarding your other post, she also reported that she removed two of them, checked, no dirt. Then my vote is another leak or bad control valve. Tony pointed out about swapping a wire at the control valve or at the controller panel. Hope Dottie reports back on Monday... -- .... if I had the perfect woman, I'd want twins -- Blackberry Smoke |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Sorry it took so long, the man just left. The problem was that someone (and it had to be the man who worked on it Wed.) had turned off the "flow control". It is a round thingy ... when it was off and you turn the water on you could hear the water running ... made a funny sound. When you turn it on the water goes through into the pipes where it makes its way to the sprinkler heads. Don't know why the man turned it off -- nobody else has fooled with the equipment...except changing the sprinkler heads. Time to get back to that now.... thank you again for your help. |
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 13:17:47 -0700 (PDT), Dottie
wrote: Sorry it took so long, the man just left. The problem was that someone (and it had to be the man who worked on it Wed.) had turned off the "flow control". It is a round thingy ... when it was off and you turn the water on you could hear the water running ... made a funny sound. When you turn it on the water goes through into the pipes where it makes its way to the sprinkler heads. Don't know why the man turned it off -- nobody else has fooled with the equipment...except changing the sprinkler heads. Time to get back to that now... thank you again for your help. I think what you mean is the guy turned down the control valve knob. I mentioned that earlier. Do your pop-up sprinklers pop up now and spray a pattern? |
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On Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, Dottie wrote:
I called a company to come out and fix a "leak" -- it wasn't really a leak. The pipes had come loose at a joint and he just had to glue it back. Before that though the water coming out was full force -- After the glue dried he tested it and everything seemed o.k. The yard is divided into sections (zones) and it is not always easy to tell which zone certain sprinkler heads are in. That was Wed. Friday I went out to test the sprinkler system -- the timer is new and I am still learning how to use that, too. All the zones worked except for Zone 1 - where he worked. I think perhaps it didn't come on when he tested it -- but I didn't realize that then. Anyway, the water has no pressure in that zone...I can see the water dribbling out of the sprinkler heads (most of those are new) ... but it isn't spraying. What would cause that? I called and the company will send someone out Monday to look -- no service call charge unless they need to replace a part. But I am not sure this problem is connected to the original problem. Unless he shook something loose when he replaced the case that goes around the valve...the wires look o.k. but I am not sure. If the wiring is loose - would the water not come up to the heads at all? This is appears to be a pressure thing. Any help would be appreciated. Yes the sprinkler heads do pop up. Some are pretty old and need to be replaced. But they all work now ... |
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 18:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Dottie
wrote: Yes the sprinkler heads do pop up. Some are pretty old and need to be replaced. But they all work now ... What was the solution? |
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On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:44:11 AM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 19 May 2014 18:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Dottie wrote: Yes the sprinkler heads do pop up. Some are pretty old and need to be replaced. But they all work now ... What was the solution? I would assume it was just moving the valve to open. It's kind of weird though. You would think last thing the service guy would do is verify that it's working normally, then leave it alone. I haven't fooled around with the zone valves that much. I know you can turn them on by hand. Are there some that also have a position where you can manually lock them off? Is it possible he could have turned it off, intended to leave it in the auto position, but had it in the totally locked off position, if there is such a thing? |
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On Tue, 20 May 2014 07:02:51 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: Yes the sprinkler heads do pop up. Some are pretty old and need to be replaced. But they all work now ... What was the solution? I would assume it was just moving the valve to open. It's kind of weird though. You would think last thing the service guy would do is verify that it's working normally, then leave it alone. I haven't fooled around with the zone valves that much. I know you can turn them on by hand. Are there some that also have a position where you can manually lock them off? Is it possible he could have turned it off, intended to leave it in the auto position, but had it in the totally locked off position, if there is such a thing? IIRC, the knob is turned down, which prevents the diaphragm from operating normally. And then opened all the way. The service guy; after repairing the pipe, turning the knob full open would have prevented his call back if he had run the zone at the control panel one time to ensure the zone worked. |
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