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Papa Johns deceptive advertising.......
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online.....
Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything.. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles... |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. Where was the special offer? Online or did you see it somewhere else? What exactly did the offer say? What was the price shown when you ordered it? But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to offer the deal for walk-ins that take out and not offer it if the order is placed online. But if they only offer it for customers who eat-in, that isn't unusual. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. They offered you a free pizza, which is worth more about 3X the $4 discount. What exactly do you want? Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. I guess that's determined by what the offer said. It's not unusual for the offer to have restrictions. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles... |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:16:41 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles.... Capitalism |
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On 4/15/2014 1:16 PM, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles... Never had one of their pizzas but heard comments about pizza's being lousy. Look at this google result: http://mythreecents.com/reviews/papa-johns |
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On 04/15/2014 12:16 PM, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles... I would never order one of their lousy pizzas. My wife and I make our own pizzas. It's extremely easy. It's inexpensive and they are much better. |
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the 12 buck sale price was on the front door of the store, and while waiting on the complaint line it was repeated 20 times or so, every minute, sale price on the web site too.
the store says they get complaints daily since the franchise doesnt honor any sales price from on line orders normal price about 16 bucks. I didnt want the free pizza, I demand they honor their sales price, and will contact the media. perhaps papa johns charges the franchise for on line orders. so they dont honor the price..... sounds like a dirty franchisee if you ask me. |
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On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. |
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Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. fine we will never go to papa johns again. my issue is they honor the sale price for all orders except on line ones..... so call in order its 12 bucks, walk in and order its 12 bucks, order online its 16 bucks |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks.. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner.... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:51:00 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner..... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! OK, in that case I agree, you have a very legitimate beef. And I agree, if I was picking it up and that happened, I'd tell them it's either $12 or they can throw it out, their choice. |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:59:36 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:51:00 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager.. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e.. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner..... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! OK, in that case I agree, you have a very legitimate beef. And I agree, if I was picking it up and that happened, I'd tell them it's either $12 or they can throw it out, their choice. I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it..... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:31:27 -0700, sms wrote:
...snip.... Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. not true. at least as of a few years ago, an 'owned' franchise in downtown San Jose, CA near the Unvirsity was constantly charging more than the ad prices, because they could. Plus they weren't always as clean as they should have been. But after I complained and complained to corp. and getting numerous 'free' coupons, the franchise changed owners and cleaned up their act, and attitude. So unless you complain it is not going to change. |
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On 4/15/2014 12:16 PM, bob haller wrote:
My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? Yes, because franchises are usually independently owned and operated, and thus do not have to honor the corporate specials. Their choice. By the way, the Papa John's online ordering website featuring this particular deal says, "Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants." There's the disclaimer. That particular PJ's didn't participate in the online special. You have no case. |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: we will never go to papa johns again. Bring 'em to their knees, Bob! How much time have you spent on this, calls to people and getting the round around. All over $4? I knew a guy that went to war with his water utility over his one bill. They then cut his water off. I told him to "grow a plant in the toilet." Sometimes, you just have a bad day at the dungeon |
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On 4/15/2014 2:51 PM, bob haller wrote:
12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner.... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! The business gets to set the conditions. If you don't like it, don't do business there. Almost certainly the online order system is centrally run by corporate, who gets a percentage of each sale in return for hosting the online order system. That's most likely why some franchises opt out - between the special price and corporate getting its cut, there's not enough profit left for the franchise holder. Next time, phone it in, or go to Pizza Hut. PH has specials that *require* ordering online to get the special deal. |
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"Moe DeLoughan" wrote in message ... "Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants." There's the disclaimer. That particular PJ's didn't participate in the online special. You have no case. I would think if the web site took the order they would participate. I would have walked out and not bought the piza. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 10:16:41 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Has anyone else run into this? By the way there was near no bacon on the pizza, just some tiny crumbles... A recent taste test I saw on some Yahoo page ranked Papa Johns lower then Little Caesars. I agree with their ranking. Dominos was number one and Pizza Hut number two (or the reverse) |
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On 4/15/2014 4:02 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Moe DeLoughan" wrote in message ... "Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants." There's the disclaimer. That particular PJ's didn't participate in the online special. You have no case. I would think if the web site took the order they would participate. They're participating in the online order system. They're not necessarily participating in the special. I would have walked out and not bought the piza. That was the thing to do. If the OP wants to enact some sort of change, he should pressure corporate to put a flag in its online order system that would alert a customer ordering a special when their PJ's *won't* honor the special. Thus warned, a customer could opt to abort the order process, or go ahead and pay full price. It would save everyone a lot of aggro. |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:59:36 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote: oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! OK, in that case I agree, you have a very legitimate beef. And I agree, if I was picking it up and that happened, I'd tell them it's either $12 or they can throw it out, their choice. +1 |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:01:18 -0500, Moe DeLoughan
wrote: Next time, phone it in, or go to Pizza Hut. PH has specials that *require* ordering online to get the special deal. ....and while you are at PH, check and see if the employees wear gloves Just sayin' |
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On 4/15/2014 4:09 PM, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:59:36 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:51:00 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner.... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! OK, in that case I agree, you have a very legitimate beef. And I agree, if I was picking it up and that happened, I'd tell them it's either $12 or they can throw it out, their choice. I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. Bad decision for franchisee. Bad decision for you're GF to buy her kid double peperoni and bacon pizza at Papa Johns. -- Remove MYHAT for email reply..... |
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On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:09:11 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:59:36 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:51:00 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale.. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i..e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations".. And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner.... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! OK, in that case I agree, you have a very legitimate beef. And I agree, if I was picking it up and that happened, I'd tell them it's either $12 or they can throw it out, their choice. I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it..... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. In my world a distric manager is corporate because he's an employee of the Papa John corporation, isn't he? |
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On 04/15/2014 05:01 PM, Oren wrote:
How much time have you spent on this, calls to people and getting the round around. All over $4? How much time have you spent posting snide off-topic remarks? |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:05:27 -0400, Hannibal Lecter
wrote: How much time have you spent posting snide off-topic remarks? How much time have you spent Nym Shifting, changing your name when posting, and being an ass hole? Are you afraid you may have a discuss a topic under one name? Yep, I bet that is the true reason. |
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yep and thanks the health department will be visiting this papa johns.
Some years ago I reported a hospital for a very unsafe situation.. Not only did they fix the item I reported but they got fined 15 grand for something very serious. The PA state health department inspects the entire hospital if they get a detailed complaint... The way I look at it I may have saved some lives. |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:39:40 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: yep and thanks the health department will be visiting this papa johns. Some years ago I reported a hospital for a very unsafe situation.. Not only did they fix the item I reported but they got fined 15 grand for something very serious. The PA state health department inspects the entire hospital if they get a detailed complaint... The way I look at it I may have saved some lives. I'm with you Bob. We should not tolerate Tyranny. From government all the way down to a pizza franchise. Did the pizza place employees have on hair nets and gloves? If they were slovenly, bring the big guns out and break 'em. If we can save the life of just one tortoise.... or a snail darter... I think there should a Pizza Militia. |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) That works, but since he knows the special doesn't work online, I'd order 3-4 pizzas, go to pick them up and then walk out when they say "No special for you" |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:13:30 -0500, "ChairMan"
wrote: In news Oren belched: On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) That works, but since he knows the special doesn't work online, I'd order 3-4 pizzas, go to pick them up and then walk out when they say "No special for you" I have never ordered pizza online. Don't you give a credit card number when it is ordered? Or is it optional? If they require a CC, then that is another fight if they debit the card. |
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Did the pizza place employees have on hair nets and gloves? If they were slovenly, bring the big guns out and break 'em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shvKG0YwOqs |
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On 4/15/2014 8:42 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:39:40 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: yep and thanks the health department will be visiting this papa johns. Some years ago I reported a hospital for a very unsafe situation.. Not only did they fix the item I reported but they got fined 15 grand for something very serious. The PA state health department inspects the entire hospital if they get a detailed complaint... The way I look at it I may have saved some lives. I'm with you Bob. We should not tolerate Tyranny. From government all the way down to a pizza franchise. Did the pizza place employees have on hair nets and gloves? If they were slovenly, bring the big guns out and break 'em. If we can save the life of just one tortoise.... or a snail darter... I think there should a Pizza Militia. New department, Citizen Reporting and Policing. You too can sign up to C.R.A.P. on people, and send C.R.A.P. every where you go. With the new C.R.A.P., everyone will know that you really give C.R.A.P. to your neighbors and friends. Just dial the anonymous 800 number, and C.R.A.P. all over your friends, neighbors, local pizza joint, hospital, etc. They'll thank you in the end when they see you C.R.A.P. every minute of every day, and they'll thank you and probably tell you where you can stick it. -- .. Christopher A. Young Learn about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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Oren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:13:30 -0500, "ChairMan" wrote: In news Oren belched: On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) That works, but since he knows the special doesn't work online, I'd order 3-4 pizzas, go to pick them up and then walk out when they say "No special for you" I have never ordered pizza online. Don't you give a credit card number when it is ordered? Or is it optional? If they require a CC, then that is another fight if they debit the card. I don't normally buy pizza from the chains, but I have ordered from Dominoes for delivery a couple of times and it wasn't required YMMV I much prefer the mom and pop joints that don't taste like cardboard ****g |
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paying on pick up is customers choice and what my step son did....
It will be interesting to see if papa johns responds |
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On 4/15/2014 4:20 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:01:18 -0500, Moe DeLoughan wrote: Next time, phone it in, or go to Pizza Hut. PH has specials that *require* ordering online to get the special deal. ...and while you are at PH, check and see if the employees wear gloves Just sayin' Good point. And if they wear them, but do a no-no with them on, see that they promptly change them. I saw a woman working a deli counter swipe her gloved hand across her nose and mouth, then continue handling the food with the now contaminated gloved hand. Sheesh. |
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On 4/15/2014 6:11 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:05:27 -0400, Hannibal Lecter wrote: How much time have you spent posting snide off-topic remarks? How much time have you spent Nym Shifting, changing your name when posting, and being an ass hole? Are you afraid you may have a discuss a topic under one name? Yep, I bet that is the true reason. Oren has a fanboy, Oren has a fanboy, Oren has a fanboy, neener neener neener. ^_^ TDD |
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On 4/15/2014 2:51 PM, bob haller wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote: On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:31:27 PM UTC-4, sms wrote: On 4/15/2014 10:16 AM, bob haller wrote: My GF and her son ordered a pizza from Papa Johns online..... Now they are running the double peperoni and bacon pizza for 12 bucks. But the store charged them 16 bucks since the local franchise does not honor sale prices on anything ordered online. Me I would of walked out. But they paid for the pizza and brought it home. The assistant store manager says they get constant complaints but its the franchises decision. I called the number the manager gave me and was offered a coupon for a free pizza. But this was from the regional franchise district manager. I declined and called corporate. Told them I wanted to speak to someone from corporate. They had the same district manager call me back He denies everything. But claimed since thjey have 139 stores they are corporate. I called corporate back and since they track all sales suggested they check what price their customers are paying for online items on sale. I havent heard anything back yet, but think the franchise is running a scam of some sort. Papa John's is letting franchises opt out of advertised promotions. Nothing illegal about that. Many Subway stores charge more than $5 for a $5 footlong too. Some franchisers require their franchisees to honor promotions, i.e. Burger King. From the PJ website with regard to the $12 special: "Offer and Prices will vary in Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Offer good for a limited time at participating Papa John's restaurants" I think it's probably dumb for a national franchise to do that, but as you say, nothing illegal or even unusual about it. I recall seeing many TV ads for example for fast food that say "at participating locations". And I think there offer of a free pizza when he complained was reasonable too. Many restaurants, not just fast food one, don't even have the sense to do that. You complain about the food or something, and they could give you a free desert, something, on a $100 check and they rather have you leave ****ed off, by giving you nothing at all. I'm also still curious about what price they were shown online? If they were told the price was $12 for the particular location they were going to and it took the order at $12, then I agree they have a totally valid beef. 12 bucks online price when ordered, 12 buck price on front door banner.... oh you ordered on line that means your paying full price..... thats pure wrong!!! If your local TV station has an XX On Your Side program, give them a call and see if they'll investigate it. It used to be a newspaper you could call but newspapers appear to have become passe. Get Papa Johns some negative publicity that gets their attention. Heck, get a bunch of people to Email The White House website about it. ^_^ TDD |
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On 4/15/2014 4:15 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) Place a big roach(the insect) in the middle of the pizza then post a picture on The Web. ^_^ TDD |
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:05:57 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote: On 4/15/2014 4:15 PM, Oren wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT), bob haller wrote: I also didnt like the district manager claiming he was corporate. I think I have uncovered a scam, and want to see corporate knows about it.... What they are doing makes very pappa johns look bad. I wonder when was the last time the health dept. inspected the place. (hint- hint) Place a big roach(the insect) in the middle of the pizza then post a picture on The Web. ^_^ TDD That would be called 'insectist'. You'd then be called a _domestic terrorist_ for violating laws protecting la cucaracha. |
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Place a big roach(the insect) in the middle of the pizza then post a picture on The Web. ^_^ But you should really show the roach cooked partially into the pizza to make it look even worse/more realistic. |
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