The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/5/2013 6:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.



Well heck, what can I say, I grew up in Alabamastan. The most advanced
thing to come out of my province was this little space program thingy. ^_^

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 6:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.

Well heck, what can I say, I grew up in Alabamastan. The most advanced
thing to come out of my province was this little space program thingy. ^_^


It didn't 'come out', it ESCAPED!!! ;-)

I spent a couple decades at Ft. Rucker, but the US Army claims it was
only nine months.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/5/2013 5:39 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 6:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.

Well heck, what can I say, I grew up in Alabamastan. The most advanced
thing to come out of my province was this little space program thingy. ^_^


It didn't 'come out', it ESCAPED!!! ;-)

I spent a couple decades at Ft. Rucker, but the US Army claims it was
only nine months.



You aired up the tires on the choppers? ^_^

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 5:39 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 6:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.

Well heck, what can I say, I grew up in Alabamastan. The most advanced
thing to come out of my province was this little space program thingy. ^_^


It didn't 'come out', it ESCAPED!!! ;-)

I spent a couple decades at Ft. Rucker, but the US Army claims it was
only nine months.



You aired up the tires on the choppers? ^_^


No, I maintained the WeatherVision system that provided weather data
to the pilot ready rooms, and delivered the base ETV programs to their
classrooms. We were only allowed 15 minutes downtime before they shut
down the airfields. Up to 17 of them. I also repaired a couple RADAR
systems when they were short on techs.

The only thing that was inflated on a chopper were the pilots. ;-)


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/6/2013 5:21 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 5:39 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 12/5/2013 6:03 AM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Back in the 70's I made my own circuit boards on the kitchen table so I
could build my own solid state alarm controls. Most of what was around
was the old reverse polarity on a pair going directly to a central
station like the police/fire department. ^_^



That depended on the type of equipment at the local CO. Touch Tone
phones had to be modified to work with the 1920s designed CO equipment
in my home town before the DTMF to pulse converter would work. They
really went whole hog in their conversion. Only 100 DTMF lines were made
available, out of 30,000 numbers.

We looked into manufacturing some alarm equipment, but the
manufacture's liability insurance was over $1,000,000 a year at that
time.

Well heck, what can I say, I grew up in Alabamastan. The most advanced
thing to come out of my province was this little space program thingy. ^_^


It didn't 'come out', it ESCAPED!!! ;-)

I spent a couple decades at Ft. Rucker, but the US Army claims it was
only nine months.



You aired up the tires on the choppers? ^_^


No, I maintained the WeatherVision system that provided weather data
to the pilot ready rooms, and delivered the base ETV programs to their
classrooms. We were only allowed 15 minutes downtime before they shut
down the airfields. Up to 17 of them. I also repaired a couple RADAR
systems when they were short on techs.

The only thing that was inflated on a chopper were the pilots. ;-)



Were there girl pilots flying choppers when you were there? You don't
want to dis your girlfriend if she pilots an Apache. ^_^

TDD

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

You aired up the tires on the choppers? ^_^


No, I maintained the WeatherVision system that provided weather data
to the pilot ready rooms, and delivered the base ETV programs to their
classrooms. We were only allowed 15 minutes downtime before they shut
down the airfields. Up to 17 of them. I also repaired a couple RADAR
systems when they were short on techs.

The only thing that was inflated on a chopper were the pilots. ;-)

Were there girl pilots flying choppers when you were there? You don't
want to dis your girlfriend if she pilots an Apache. ^_^


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


Hi, Mike
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

On 12/6/2013 7:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

You aired up the tires on the choppers? ^_^


No, I maintained the WeatherVision system that provided weather
data to the pilot ready rooms, and delivered the base ETV
programs to their classrooms. We were only allowed 15 minutes
downtime before they shut down the airfields. Up to 17 of them.
I also repaired a couple RADAR systems when they were short on
techs.

The only thing that was inflated on a chopper were the pilots.
;-)

Were there girl pilots flying choppers when you were there? You
don't want to dis your girlfriend if she pilots an Apache. ^_^


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos
to made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy
would shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back
then were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex,
then make them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they
remained in the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some
were getting half the pay from over a dozen GIs.


Funny how the sex scam never changes. There's been a story about a
football player who was accused of rape a year after it allegedly
occurred only after his accuser found out he may wind up making lots of
money playing professional ball. No, I'm not a football fan. ^_^

TDD

Tony Hwang wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


Hi, Mike
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

My orders to Vietnam were changed to Alaska at the last minute. The
TV station I was to work at was over run about two weeks after I would
have arrived, and it's very likely I wouldn't be here since most of the
staff was killed. I got what was left of a 5 KW Gates VHF TV transmitter
for parts at the station in Alaska.

I had several underage girls try to trick me into bed while stationed
at Ft. Rucker. They used a lot of makeup, and some guys fell for it.
The worst part was that their families were making them prostitute
themselves because the parent or parents were too lazy to work. Some of
the girls were just 13. A couple of the other soldiers kept track of
who they were, and warned you they were minors. Still, a lot of guys
were screwed out of half of their pay, until they retired or didn't
re-enlist.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Funny how the sex scam never changes. There's been a story about a
football player who was accused of rape a year after it allegedly
occurred only after his accuser found out he may wind up making lots of
money playing professional ball. No, I'm not a football fan. ^_^


Footballs make terrible fans. Not enough surface area, and quite
unstable at high speeds. ;-)


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 12/6/2013 10:43 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tony Hwang wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


Hi, Mike
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

My orders to Vietnam were changed to Alaska at the last minute. The
TV station I was to work at was over run about two weeks after I would
have arrived, and it's very likely I wouldn't be here since most of the
staff was killed. I got what was left of a 5 KW Gates VHF TV transmitter
for parts at the station in Alaska.

I had several underage girls try to trick me into bed while stationed
at Ft. Rucker. They used a lot of makeup, and some guys fell for it.
The worst part was that their families were making them prostitute
themselves because the parent or parents were too lazy to work. Some of
the girls were just 13. A couple of the other soldiers kept track of
who they were, and warned you they were minors. Still, a lot of guys
were screwed out of half of their pay, until they retired or didn't
re-enlist.



You must be careful of girls from LA, Lower Alabama. ^_^

TDD

On 12/6/2013 10:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Funny how the sex scam never changes. There's been a story about a
football player who was accused of rape a year after it allegedly
occurred only after his accuser found out he may wind up making lots of
money playing professional ball. No, I'm not a football fan. ^_^


Footballs make terrible fans. Not enough surface area, and quite
unstable at high speeds. ;-)



They're only good for dodge ball. ^_^

TDD

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tony Hwang wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


Hi, Mike
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

My orders to Vietnam were changed to Alaska at the last minute. The
TV station I was to work at was over run about two weeks after I would
have arrived, and it's very likely I wouldn't be here since most of the
staff was killed. I got what was left of a 5 KW Gates VHF TV transmitter
for parts at the station in Alaska.

I had several underage girls try to trick me into bed while stationed
at Ft. Rucker. They used a lot of makeup, and some guys fell for it.
The worst part was that their families were making them prostitute
themselves because the parent or parents were too lazy to work. Some of
the girls were just 13. A couple of the other soldiers kept track of
who they were, and warned you they were minors. Still, a lot of guys
were screwed out of half of their pay, until they retired or didn't
re-enlist.


Hi,
I see. I roamed there as GS-12~13 military civie doing C&I and later M&O
work for VHF, UHF, Troposcatter radio comm network, Copper lines were
only used within the perimeter of bases. Every thing else
was tactical/strategical radio. One extra thing I did was looking after
VOA relay station in PHu Bai, South of Hue. The station was built on a
tiny island in the middle of man made lake accessed only by heavily
gated causeway. Nearby also 8th RRFS was station. All under ground
except huge antenna farm covering stretch of field. I moved up/down the
country frequently from Con Son Island upto DMZ(I was at Dong Ha, Khe
san just before USMC was under heavy siege by 'Cong/NVA. After 3
years, I took a R&R, then ordered to show up at Iran or Libya. But I
heard those places were worse than 'Nam, so I quit and got married. Wife
had a job lined up at Pueblo, CO, my job was at Vancouver, BC(with ITT)
When we decided on Canada, I started with Honeywell on computer
side(data comm)I was hired by 304th LL Bn under 8th Army in Korea as
GS-9. That was half a century ago. Time really flies. Now empty nester.
Two kids, one is MD, one is PE, one grand son, 3 yrs old in Victoria,
BC. We are in Calgary which is getting too big too fast due to good
economic conditions. Between '12-'13 we gained 60,000 in population.

The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 12/6/2013 10:43 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Tony Hwang wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

On 12/6/2013 8:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:


This was the early '70s and they were training medivac
pilots for
Vietnam, so there were no female pilots at the time. Women were not
allowed in combat zones back then. The air was pumped into their
egos to
made them crazy and brave enough to fly into areas where the enemy
would
shoot down a medical copter. The only girls around Rucker back then
were hookers or underage girls who would fool a GI into sex, then
make
them sign over half their pay (For their entire time they remained in
the service) to keep from being charged with rape. Some were getting
half the pay from over a dozen GIs.

Sounds like the welcome committee, provided by
our overseas allies (not!).


They were the reason the military showed all those damned VD
films.
'Camp Followers' have been around, since the first armies existed.


Hi, Mike
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

My orders to Vietnam were changed to Alaska at the last minute. The
TV station I was to work at was over run about two weeks after I would
have arrived, and it's very likely I wouldn't be here since most of the
staff was killed. I got what was left of a 5 KW Gates VHF TV transmitter
for parts at the station in Alaska.

I had several underage girls try to trick me into bed while stationed
at Ft. Rucker. They used a lot of makeup, and some guys fell for it.
The worst part was that their families were making them prostitute
themselves because the parent or parents were too lazy to work. Some of
the girls were just 13. A couple of the other soldiers kept track of
who they were, and warned you they were minors. Still, a lot of guys
were screwed out of half of their pay, until they retired or didn't
re-enlist.



You must be careful of girls from LA, Lower Alabama. ^_^

TDD
Hi,
I heard they are like alligators?

On 12/6/2013 11:43 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Were you in 'Nam during that time? Telling things from word of mouth or
from real real life experience?

My orders to Vietnam were changed to Alaska at the last minute. The
TV station I was to work at was over run about two weeks after I would
have arrived, and it's very likely I wouldn't be here since most of the
staff was killed. I got what was left of a 5 KW Gates VHF TV transmitter
for parts at the station in Alaska.

I had several underage girls try to trick me into bed while stationed
at Ft. Rucker. They used a lot of makeup, and some guys fell for it.
The worst part was that their families were making them prostitute
themselves because the parent or parents were too lazy to work. Some of
the girls were just 13. A couple of the other soldiers kept track of
who they were, and warned you they were minors. Still, a lot of guys
were screwed out of half of their pay, until they retired or didn't
re-enlist.

I think it's a real shame, that we lose so many
good people in that war. Glad that the spread
of communism was slowed, for a while.

A wise writer once wrote "thou shalt not commit
adultery". If people would live that commandment,
they would have better lives in so many ways.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 23:45:57 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 12/6/2013 10:45 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The Daring Dufas wrote:

Funny how the sex scam never changes. There's been a story about a
football player who was accused of rape a year after it allegedly
occurred only after his accuser found out he may wind up making lots of
money playing professional ball. No, I'm not a football fan. ^_^


Footballs make terrible fans. Not enough surface area, and quite
unstable at high speeds. ;-)

Too aerodynamic. ...by design.


They're only good for dodge ball. ^_^

That pointy end hurts!

The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 12/2/2013 8:46 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 11/22/2013 10:12 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:35:28 AM UTC-5, Danny D'Amico wrote:
Dead alarm system troubleshooting advice requested ...

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/1...fcb528ab_o.gif

Yesterday, I had been messing with the main breakers, and accidentally
shut the main 200A breaker without turning off the power generator
switch;
so the Generac kicked in; and I heard the alarm system in the garage
vehemently complaining with persistent loud beeps.
I immediately reset everything, and I thought it was all ok.
Then, today, the alarm system sounded three loud long beeps, and
went totally dead.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/1...e48ee609_o.gif

Troubleshooting with my Fluke after removing the alarm system external
wires shows the external ELK-TRG21640 16.5VAC, 45VA power-supply
transformer plugged into an outlet has an open secondary, and when
plugged into an extension cord, there is no voltage from any of the
three screws on the secondary windings:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5527/1...d64103f6_o.gif

If I thought it was that simple, I'd just replace the transformer;
but I wondered why the backup battery didn't run the alarm system.
Testing the 12V 5AH battery out of the alarm system shows it's 13.5
volts DC (no load open circuit voltage), which, at least seems OK

(I don't know how to load it though):

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3731/1...d9f59f77_o.gif

So, two things must be wrong:

1. The ELK AC transformer secondary opened up suddenly

2. Maybe the power supply inside the alarm system box went bad suddenly

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3751/1...ff0ca903_o.gif

Do you think shutting the breaker without turning off the generator
could have blown the alarm system?


What can one say about these pixs? Alarm systems
are crap, installers are crap. I love the tywrap
around the w1 & w2 leads as a strain relief.

I like the wiring detail. Funky


I've always taken the extra time to install everything as neatly as
possible because it makes it so much easier for me and anyone else
coming behind me to service any system I install. I worked for one
little creep some years ago who wanted everything thrown in as quickly
as possible without taking any time to think ahead, I didn't work for
the freak for very long and I can always spot a system thrown together
by his company. I've got a link to the last system I was able to install
by myself back in 2009 before becoming too ill to do much of anything on
my own. I wasn't doing a lot in the way of alarm systems but most of
what I was doing was phone systems, automated attendant and VRS gear,
computer systems, computer networks, video surveillance systems, point
of sale systems and access control systems. I've always made my own
backboards, painted them light grey and drew a 6" grid with a pencil on
them so that when the backboard was mounted level, the grid was level

I haven't seen anything that neat and organized in
a long time. Now the use PC boards and stuff
everything in an undersized cabinet to hide the
shame...

Simplex must have stock in butt splice
manufacturers. Then they install the heavy stuff
at the top of the cabinet so if it moved it falls
on you.

I got stories**nightmares of my own...

--
Tekkie

On 12/8/2013 3:31 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 12/2/2013 8:46 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 11/22/2013 10:12 AM, Tony Hwang wrote:
wrote:
On Friday, November 22, 2013 1:35:28 AM UTC-5, Danny D'Amico wrote:
Dead alarm system troubleshooting advice requested ...

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/1...fcb528ab_o.gif

Yesterday, I had been messing with the main breakers, and accidentally
shut the main 200A breaker without turning off the power generator
switch;
so the Generac kicked in; and I heard the alarm system in the garage
vehemently complaining with persistent loud beeps.
I immediately reset everything, and I thought it was all ok.
Then, today, the alarm system sounded three loud long beeps, and
went totally dead.

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Troubleshooting with my Fluke after removing the alarm system external
wires shows the external ELK-TRG21640 16.5VAC, 45VA power-supply
transformer plugged into an outlet has an open secondary, and when
plugged into an extension cord, there is no voltage from any of the
three screws on the secondary windings:

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If I thought it was that simple, I'd just replace the transformer;
but I wondered why the backup battery didn't run the alarm system.
Testing the 12V 5AH battery out of the alarm system shows it's 13.5
volts DC (no load open circuit voltage), which, at least seems OK

(I don't know how to load it though):

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So, two things must be wrong:

1. The ELK AC transformer secondary opened up suddenly

2. Maybe the power supply inside the alarm system box went bad suddenly

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Do you think shutting the breaker without turning off the generator
could have blown the alarm system?


What can one say about these pixs? Alarm systems
are crap, installers are crap. I love the tywrap
around the w1 & w2 leads as a strain relief.

I like the wiring detail. Funky


I've always taken the extra time to install everything as neatly as
possible because it makes it so much easier for me and anyone else
coming behind me to service any system I install. I worked for one
little creep some years ago who wanted everything thrown in as quickly
as possible without taking any time to think ahead, I didn't work for
the freak for very long and I can always spot a system thrown together
by his company. I've got a link to the last system I was able to install
by myself back in 2009 before becoming too ill to do much of anything on
my own. I wasn't doing a lot in the way of alarm systems but most of
what I was doing was phone systems, automated attendant and VRS gear,
computer systems, computer networks, video surveillance systems, point
of sale systems and access control systems. I've always made my own
backboards, painted them light grey and drew a 6" grid with a pencil on
them so that when the backboard was mounted level, the grid was level

I haven't seen anything that neat and organized in
a long time. Now the use PC boards and stuff
everything in an undersized cabinet to hide the
shame...

Simplex must have stock in butt splice
manufacturers. Then they install the heavy stuff
at the top of the cabinet so if it moved it falls
on you.

I got stories**nightmares of my own...


A lot of manufacturers will put power supplies at the top of a cabinet
so that cool air is drawn in at the bottom to help cool components. A
friend of mine who worked telecommunications in the military for NATO
in Europe told me about large Siemens phone switches which were designed
with the power supplies at the bottom so the rising heat would keep the
electronic circuitry dry. Those switches were designed that way because
air conditioning wasn't that common in Europe back then. An
AT&T electronic switch of the same era would die if the air conditioning
failed to keep the temperature below room temperature. ^_^

TDD