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Rotted overhead garage door.
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite
skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. |
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote:
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. My steel door is by Overhead Door. After 12 years, it is still in perfect condition. Yes, aluminum may be better (and more expensive), but this is working for me. They have fiberglass also. http://www.overheaddoor.com/Pages/products.aspx |
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote:
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Nothing wrong with either. Wood will require a bit more maintenance. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. Fiberglass overhead doors suck. They're translucent and very light (easy to damage). Aluminum will cost an arm and a leg and probably still not be strong enough. If I were buying a new door it would be steel (probably with insulation and interior panels to quiet it some). |
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On Mar 31, 3:49*pm, Notat Home wrote:
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. *Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. *I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. *So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water.. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. *They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Wood rots and steel rusts if water is allowed to get to it. I have 30 year old garage doors and no rot here. You do have to keep them painted and make sure water isn't getting to them in ways in should not. Haven't done anything special here and they are still in great shape. |
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On Mar 31, 3:49 pm, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Wood rots and steel rusts if water is allowed to get to it. I have 30 year old garage doors and no rot here. You do have to keep them painted and make sure water isn't getting to them in ways in should not. Haven't done anything special here and they are still in great shape. I have no idea how old my wooden garage door is but it's been here as long as I have, going on 30 years. No rot whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if it was original to the 55 YO house. On the other hand, one of the rails that (used to) go down into the concrete rusted out and there's a gap of about an inch between the slab and the bottom of the rail. It's not a problem because it's secured to the block just above the gap and since the bottom is no longer in contact with anything, it stopped "receding" years ago. :-) |
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Your best bet is still steel in my humble opinion. Millions of people have steel garage doors and they provide good service all across the continent. They're lighter than wood doors and generally never require any painting. While it's true that steel rusts, it's also true that the outside of the door is protected by paint and it seldom rains inside the garage. Bottom line is that your experience with a steel door probably won't be any different than anyone else's, and most people are happy with their steel garage doors. I know that both of my sisters are. |
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DerbyDad03 writes:
" wrote: On Mar 31, 3:49 pm, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Wood rots and steel rusts if water is allowed to get to it. I have 30 year old garage doors and no rot here. You do have to keep them painted and make sure water isn't getting to them in ways in should not. Haven't done anything special here and they are still in great shape. I have no idea how old my wooden garage door is but it's been here as long as I have, going on 30 years. No rot whatsoever. I wouldn't be surprised if it was original to the 55 YO house. I replaced my 40+ y/o double wooden door last year. The main problem was a gap on one side and they looked old. There was no wood rot. I don't think the door warped to cause the gap. It might have been 40 years of settling. I mainly replaced them to upgrade the appearance. My previous house, I had some +50 year old wood doors in perfect condition. I conclude that real wood will last a _really_ long time. I had Jaeger Lumber install some steel clad doors. They look great and don't make a huge noise when being opened. Good enough for me. -- Dan Espen |
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:20:12 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 3/31/2013 5:52 PM, wrote: ... Fiberglass overhead doors suck. They're translucent and very light (easy to damage). Aluminum will cost an arm and a leg and probably still not be strong enough. If I were buying a new door it would be steel (probably with insulation and interior panels to quiet it some). There are two Raynor fiberglass OH doors here that are at least 40 yr of age and are still just fine. They aren't particularly attractive, granted, but it's a standalone garage on a farmstead so that doesn't bother me much (as in any). And, the translucence is kinda a nice thing from a light standpoint if there isn't sufficient other light. My mother had one in her house, thirty years ago. What a PITA. It was always breaking. Illumination in the daytime was fine but not so nice the other way around at night. You could see shadows from everything in the front half of the garage. I'll pass. Steel is so much better. OTOH, there are also fiberglass OH doors of the ilk of residential exterior doors that are can be quite attractive and not at all insubstantial (of course, the price isn't, either, but none of anything that aren't just cheap are). Fiberglass entry doors are nice. Overhead, not so much. Having had every type of OH door, I far prefer steel, with (*real*) wood being a close second. The only real problem with wood is its weight. |
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Rotted overhead garage door.
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote:
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW |
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On Apr 1, 10:58*am, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:20:12 -0500, dpb wrote: On 3/31/2013 5:52 PM, wrote: ... Fiberglass overhead doors suck. *They're translucent and very light (easy to damage). *Aluminum will cost an arm and a leg and probably still not be strong enough. *If I were buying a new door it would be steel (probably with insulation and interior panels to quiet it some). There are two Raynor fiberglass OH doors here that are at least 40 yr of age and are still just fine. *They aren't particularly attractive, granted, but it's a standalone garage on a farmstead so that doesn't bother me much (as in any). *And, the translucence is kinda a nice thing from a light standpoint if there isn't sufficient other light. My mother had one in her house, thirty years ago. *What a PITA. *It was always breaking. *Illumination in the daytime was fine but not so nice the other way around at night. *You could see shadows from everything in the front half of the garage. I'll pass. *Steel is so much better. OTOH, there are also fiberglass OH doors of the ilk of residential exterior doors that are can be quite attractive and not at all insubstantial (of course, the price isn't, either, but none of anything that aren't just cheap are). Fiberglass entry doors are nice. *Overhead, not so much. Having had every type of OH door, I far prefer steel, with (*real*) wood being a close second. *The only real problem with wood is its weight. How about a garage door "engineered with an artfully molded wood-grain fiberglass surface concealing durable steel construction", Polyurethane foamed-in-place-insulation, and "optional insulated glass for improved thermal performance"? No translucency issues because of the steel core, some light because of the windows, energy efficient and "the warmth and beauty of wood with less maintenance". What more could you ask for? ;-) http://www.wayne-dalton.com/resident...odel-9800.aspx |
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On Apr 1, 12:43*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. *Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. *I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. *So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. |
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:23:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Apr 1, 12:43*pm, wrote: On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. *Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. *I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. *So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. *They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. *I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. *A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:15 -0400, wrote:
*A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Some of us saw the humor in that remark. |
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On 3/31/2013 4:13 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. My steel door is by Overhead Door. After 12 years, it is still in perfect condition. Yes, aluminum may be better (and more expensive), but this is working for me. They have fiberglass also. http://www.overheaddoor.com/Pages/products.aspx I replaced my wooden door with steel too. It's about the same age as yours and still looks as good as new with no corrosion. |
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:21:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Apr 1, 10:58*am, wrote: On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:20:12 -0500, dpb wrote: On 3/31/2013 5:52 PM, wrote: ... Fiberglass overhead doors suck. *They're translucent and very light (easy to damage). *Aluminum will cost an arm and a leg and probably still not be strong enough. *If I were buying a new door it would be steel (probably with insulation and interior panels to quiet it some). There are two Raynor fiberglass OH doors here that are at least 40 yr of age and are still just fine. *They aren't particularly attractive, granted, but it's a standalone garage on a farmstead so that doesn't bother me much (as in any). *And, the translucence is kinda a nice thing from a light standpoint if there isn't sufficient other light. My mother had one in her house, thirty years ago. *What a PITA. *It was always breaking. *Illumination in the daytime was fine but not so nice the other way around at night. *You could see shadows from everything in the front half of the garage. I'll pass. *Steel is so much better. OTOH, there are also fiberglass OH doors of the ilk of residential exterior doors that are can be quite attractive and not at all insubstantial (of course, the price isn't, either, but none of anything that aren't just cheap are). Fiberglass entry doors are nice. *Overhead, not so much. Having had every type of OH door, I far prefer steel, with (*real*) wood being a close second. *The only real problem with wood is its weight. How about a garage door "engineered with an artfully molded wood-grain fiberglass surface concealing durable steel construction", Polyurethane foamed-in-place-insulation, and "optional insulated glass for improved thermal performance"? I call that a steel door. ;-) No translucency issues because of the steel core, some light because of the windows, energy efficient and "the warmth and beauty of wood with less maintenance". What more could you ask for? ;-) http://www.wayne-dalton.com/resident...odel-9800.aspx |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:56:47 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 4/1/2013 9:58 AM, wrote: On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 19:20:12 -0500, wrote: On 3/31/2013 5:52 PM, wrote: ... Fiberglass overhead doors suck. They're translucent and very light (easy to damage). Aluminum will cost an arm and a leg and probably still not be strong enough. If I were buying a new door it would be steel (probably with insulation and interior panels to quiet it some). There are two Raynor fiberglass OH doors here that are at least 40 yr of age and are still just fine. They aren't particularly attractive, granted, but it's a standalone garage on a farmstead so that doesn't bother me much (as in any). And, the translucence is kinda a nice thing from a light standpoint if there isn't sufficient other light. My mother had one in her house, thirty years ago. What a PITA. It was always breaking. Illumination in the daytime was fine but not so nice the other way around at night. You could see shadows from everything in the front half of the garage. I'll pass. Steel is so much better. ... Well, these have been installed for 40+ and haven't broken yet (well, other than the two panels dad replaced when he once started to back out thinking had waited long enough for the opener but it didn't operate for some reason.... ). The two replacement panels are nearly probably over 20 by now; I don't know just what year it was he did that but had been a while when we came back in '99... My mother's started breaking in the first few years. I was constantly trying to put it back together. They're so light and flexible that the banding at the top and bottom would snap, making it work more like a piece of cooked linguini. PITA. Never again! Steel has all of the nice properties of fiberglass and a lot of its own. I acknowledged they're not much to look at for an attached garage but this is detached and so there's "nothing to see here, folks"... Just commenting that afaiac they're perfectly adequate operationally for an inexpensive solution--surely can't complain about the longevity. Don't know what/why ones you're familiar with would have had problems never having seen them, of course. Steel is no more expensive. |
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On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 10:23:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Apr 1, 12:43 pm, wrote: On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 15:49:51 -0400, Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Perhaps I give *you* too much credit. Did you really think I was being serious? |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:00:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:15 -0400, wrote: *A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Some of us saw the humor in that remark. I don't think he was thinking of a "cat door" |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:32:56 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:00:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:15 -0400, wrote: *A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Some of us saw the humor in that remark. I don't think he was thinking of a "cat door" He wasn't but you missed it again. Try this line: If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;- Let me explain. If the garage door was made like an entry door, it would be 32" wide. Garage doors are usually . . . . . |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:26:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:32:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:00:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:15 -0400, wrote: *A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Some of us saw the humor in that remark. I don't think he was thinking of a "cat door" He wasn't but you missed it again. Try this line: If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;- Let me explain. If the garage door was made like an entry door, it would be 32" wide. Garage doors are usually . . . . . "made like" refers to construction, not size. Must be a difference between 'merican and Canadian English useage. |
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On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 22:26:51 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 19:32:56 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 18:00:43 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Mon, 01 Apr 2013 16:59:15 -0400, wrote: A fiberglass door - made like fiberglass entry doors, would be the cat's MEOW If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;-) Do I give you too much credit? I believe you are smart enough to know what I meant. Some of us saw the humor in that remark. I don't think he was thinking of a "cat door" He wasn't but you missed it again. Try this line: If the garage door was made like an entry door, it wouldn't fit very well. ;- Let me explain. If the garage door was made like an entry door, it would be 32" wide. Garage doors are usually . . . . . "made like" refers to construction, not size. Must be a difference between 'merican and Canadian English useage. I can't believe you are still discussing this. How far over your head did my attempt at humor go? Pay attention to what Ed is saying. He is 100% on the mark. |
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Notat Home wrote:
I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. My attached garage has wooden doors that have lasted since 1984. I guess the fact that I have an overhang over the doors has contributed to their life. Wooden doors insulate better than metal doors. Nothing ever freezes inside the garage even when temps outside drop to single digits. If I were to replace them for whatever reason they would be with wood again. YMMV. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @ |
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we just replaced a 25yo wood overhead with Aluminum
from Costco, and new opener it works much better than the wood did, but it was old a little pricey, but it has small high windows now. The new window light is terriffic marc |
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:43:58 -0400, willshak
wrote: Notat Home wrote: I have an overhead garage door that is apparently made of a composite skin over composite bracing. Although painted, it appears to soak up rainwater and rot. I tried patching it with bondo, but that didn't work. So now I'm looking for a replacement that is impervious to water. The dealers around here have wood doors, and steel doors. They claim the finish will protect them, but I'm not confident since wood rots and steel corrodes. Are there better options. I would think fiberglass or aluminum would be better. My attached garage has wooden doors that have lasted since 1984. I guess the fact that I have an overhang over the doors has contributed to their life. Perhaps, though the degradation I've always noticed was on the bottom, where they may have not been allowed to dry properly after rain. Wooden doors insulate better than metal doors. Nothing ever freezes inside the garage even when temps outside drop to single digits. If I were to replace them for whatever reason they would be with wood again. YMMV. Wood? Insulate? Hardly. The R-value is about nil. A foam insulated steel door would be *far* better. OTOH, I'm not convinced it matters all that much because I don't believe a decent seal can be made and maintained all around a door that size. |
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