My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

On Jun 6, 7:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

I love wearing a scarf because my neck is always cold and it has
become even colder as I get older and it’s not just for women; men
used to wear scarves all the time especially before the invention of
antibiotics when catching a cold was dangerous as it sometimes tends
to turn into a bacterial infection. It may well become a necessity
again with some infections developing immunity to antibiotics.

On 6/6/2012 8:49 AM, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow?

Something that produces smoke, like an incense stick?

(The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

Maybe an exorcism?

Sorry to hear. I worked in a factory, one time. Some of the gals had taken
sheets of cardboard and taped it to the fronts of their work bench, down to
the floor. Got tired of draft on their legs.

I don't have any good answers. That's about what I would have done, what you
already did. I'd check in the neighboring cubes, for fan under the desk, or
device with fan like water cooler, refrig, or microwave oven, or, or.....

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"mcp6453" wrote in message
...
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are
8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the
draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow?
(The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has
weird
air currents flowing in it.)

On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If it is that objectionable ask your office manager
(the administrative assistant in charge of desk
assignments and supplies) to relocate you to
another area...

Your employer should accommodate one or two
of these requests before demanding written
proof of your mental wellness from a licensed
mental health counselor...

mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

Wet finger.

The wall might be an odd temperature, or in spots. Use hand or ir
thermometer.

Greg

On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If they will allow it, get some Smoke Matches from Grainger.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smoke-Matches-3KLK4

I used them to check the airflow in my attic.

Be aware of nearby smoke detectors. Maybe have the HVAC guy nearby and
let your manager know first so that no one is surprised by the smoke.

On Jun 6, 3:46*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:

My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If they will allow it, get some Smoke Matches from Grainger.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smoke-Matches-3KLK4

I used them to check the airflow in my attic.

Be aware of nearby smoke detectors. Maybe have the HVAC guy nearby and
let your manager know first so that no one is surprised by the smoke.

ROFL...

The smoke detectors you can see in the office are only
part of what you have to worry about, commercial buildings
also have smoke detectors inside the HVAC duct work as
well...

Definitely not something for an employee to do to try and
locate a "draft"... Possibly not even for the OP's employer
to do if they are only a tenant in the building...

The "best cost": or "least cost" option here is for the OP
to request a new desk assignment from the office
manager...

On Jun 6, 3:56*pm, Evan wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:46*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:

My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If they will allow it, get some Smoke Matches from Grainger.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smoke-Matches-3KLK4

I used them to check the airflow in my attic.

Be aware of nearby smoke detectors. Maybe have the HVAC guy nearby and
let your manager know first so that no one is surprised by the smoke.

ROFL...

The smoke detectors you can see in the office are only
part of what you have to worry about, commercial buildings
also have smoke detectors inside the HVAC duct work as
well...

Definitely not something for an employee to do to try and
locate a "draft"... *Possibly not even for the OP's employer
to do if they are only a tenant in the building...

The "best cost": or "least cost" option here is for the OP
to request a new desk assignment from the office
manager...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Requesting a new desk assignment can be more costly than one might
imagine.

First off, there has to be a someplace to swap to, someplace that
doesn't impact work flow. If there were an issue in my office, moving
to a new location would be next to impossible since I'm part of a team
that interacts with each other, face to face, constantly throughout
the day. There are no "spare" offices anywhere near mine. In fact,
there aren't even any open offices on my floor. I know all about
"global teams" (I've been on a few) and I know the saying that "the
world is flat", but if our team wasn't grouped within shouting
distance we would be much less efficient. The same goes for other
teams in our office, so simply swapping offices with someone who might
not mind the draft wouldn't be cost effective in the long run.

Phone and computer access *might* be as easy as swapping a few plugs
in a closet or it might involve much more, depending on LAN
configurations, phone numbers that ring on more than one phone, access
to shared servers, and location, location, location. Parts of our
office building - within the same company - have different prefixes
for phone numbers and a move from one side of the building to another
would mean a change of phone numbers, which leads to new business
cards, letterhead, etc., all of which have both a direct and indirect
monetary impact.

All I'm saying is that it may not be easy or even cost effective to
move the employee just to avoid a draft.

On Jun 6, 9:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

Light a candle. let it burn a minute or so to get some burnt wick,
and then blow it out, You'll get some smoke, but not enough to
trigger any alarms. OR get someone with a cigarette to do the same
thing.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:49:32 -0400, mcp6453 wrote:

My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

I see you've had many suggestions to use smoke. That would be my
first suggestion too, but it may not be practical. If not, how about
a balloon? A helium balloon with just enough ballast to keep it
steady may be just the thing to float along the space a couple of feet
above you.

On 6/6/2012 1:07 PM, Molly Brown wrote:

I love wearing a scarf because my neck is always cold and it has
become even colder as I get older and it’s not just for women; men
used to wear scarves all the time especially before the invention of
antibiotics when catching a cold was dangerous as it sometimes tends
to turn into a bacterial infection. It may well become a necessity
again with some infections developing immunity to antibiotics.

I was thinking the same thing. A co-worker of mine would wear a knit
hat while sitting in his office because of a draft and because he has no
hair. You can always take off a hat or scarf when he leave your seating
area. I have no drafts in my office, ok, I had to move to a cube so no
more office, but it tends to get very warm even though when I move to
other places it's fine. I just keep a small fan on.

On Jun 6, 4:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:56*pm, Evan wrote:









On Jun 6, 3:46*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:

My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If they will allow it, get some Smoke Matches from Grainger.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smoke-Matches-3KLK4

I used them to check the airflow in my attic.

Be aware of nearby smoke detectors. Maybe have the HVAC guy nearby and
let your manager know first so that no one is surprised by the smoke.

ROFL...

The smoke detectors you can see in the office are only
part of what you have to worry about, commercial buildings
also have smoke detectors inside the HVAC duct work as
well...

Definitely not something for an employee to do to try and
locate a "draft"... *Possibly not even for the OP's employer
to do if they are only a tenant in the building...

The "best cost": or "least cost" option here is for the OP
to request a new desk assignment from the office
manager...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Requesting a new desk assignment can be more costly than one might
imagine.

First off, there has to be a someplace to swap to, someplace that
doesn't impact work flow. If there were an issue in my office, moving
to a new location would be next to impossible since I'm part of a team
that interacts with each other, face to face, constantly throughout
the day. There are no "spare" offices anywhere near mine. In fact,
there aren't even any open offices on my floor. I know all about
"global teams" (I've been on a few) and I know the saying that "the
world is flat", but if our team wasn't grouped within shouting
distance we would be much less efficient. The same goes for other
teams in our office, so simply swapping offices with someone who might
not mind the draft wouldn't be cost effective in the long run.

Phone and computer access *might* be as easy as swapping a few plugs
in a closet or it might involve much more, depending on LAN
configurations, phone numbers that ring on more than one phone, access
to shared servers, and location, location, location. Parts of our
office building - within the same company - have different prefixes
for phone numbers and a move from one side of the building to another
would mean a change of phone numbers, which leads to new business
cards, letterhead, etc., all of which have both a direct and indirect
monetary impact.

All I'm saying is that it may not be easy or even cost effective to
move the employee just to avoid a draft.

Umm, yeah, it is... Unless your employer is using rather old
and outdated equipment... Contacting the landlord or HVAC
technicians over a "draft" which will never be able to be corrected
because it has been a feature of that space since its last
physical remodel all over one employee's "comfort" is expensive...
There are required ventilation room air changes per hour, bringing
in enough outside air and having it preconditioned to offset the
CO2 being given off by the workers and also the capacity to
quickly remove smoke from the building via using some of the
same fans... You are now discussing an engineering problem
which would be more than the HVAC technician adjusting
a louver on a vent grille...

If you are talking an "office" that means you are an employee of
a certain level of prestige, rather than desk/workspace... An office
has four walls (floor to ceiling), a ceiling and a lockable door that
no one can reach over from the outside and open...
A desk/workspace may not have those features...

If moving from one side of the building to the other at your employer
means changing phone numbers those sections of the building
are either served by entirely separate phone systems or the system
is old enough to require physically altering the wiring to accomplish
the move...

Moving someone from one work station to any other in offices with
equipment installed in the past 10 years is a matter of port swapping
within the phone system dynamically using the system software
without making any hardware or wiring changes... Computer ? LOL
most people's office computers won't allow them to save or alter
files locally and they are merely accessing a set of working and
personal folders on a network drive so the computer itself is not
moved nor requires any changes beyond perhaps reconfiguring
the employee's user account to allow them to log on from their
new desk location...

A workgroup that is assigned the same project need not work
all within the exact same physical space, yeah, it is very
convenient when they can, but this is not always possible,
that is why there are conference spaces for small group
meetings in most office areas... If your team brought in a
new staff member right now, they would not relocate other
employees which are not a part of that group from the surrounding
cubicles to make space for that one person, they would get
a desk somewhere...

You should feel somewhat lucky if your office is at 100%
population, that means that your employer is either doing
really well, or could mean that you are headed for troubled
times ahead... Either way, by not having any empty expansion
space anywhere in your working unit, whomever is in charge
of space utilization is not doing their job properly because there
is no way to add someone to any given project without relocating
someone else who isn't working on that project...

Most employers also tend to have empty cubicles around
for when traveling employees are in town, an employee that
normally telecommutes has to be present in the office for
some reason and for itinerant projects like tax season/auditing
type projects where outside agents need to do work on the
premises without closing off access to the conference space
to all the other employees while that work takes place...

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
On Jun 6, 9:49 am, mcp6453 wrote:
My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The
only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube
are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find
the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the
draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow?
(The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has
weird
air currents flowing in it.)

Light a candle. let it burn a minute or so to get some burnt wick,
and then blow it out, You'll get some smoke, but not enough to
trigger any alarms. OR get someone with a cigarette to do the same
thing.

Some buildings have systems which move the dampers in the air ducts so the
air currents change periodically. That way the air is exchanged throughout
the building and there's a sense of air movement, but not a continuous
draft. Maybe that's the source of your "weird air currents".

Tomsic

MCP, Molly: Do you folks smoke?

Could explain the chills your'e feeling. I grew up around 2nd hand smoke and I was cold even in Summe time!

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 03:46:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

MCP, Molly: Do you folks smoke?

Could explain the chills your'e feeling. I grew up around 2nd hand smoke and I was cold even in Summe time!

OTOH, I grew up with 2 smoking parents and smoked like a chimney for
35 years [2 packs of ciggs a day and a pound of pipe tobacco a week]
and was *never* the cold on in the room until I quit 10 years ago.

I think blaming sensitivity to cold on second hand smoke is a bit of a
stretch.

Jim

Hmm. You keep a fan on? Maybe you have the cube next to the original poster?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Cheryl" wrote in message
.com...

I was thinking the same thing. A co-worker of mine would wear a knit
hat while sitting in his office because of a draft and because he has no
hair. You can always take off a hat or scarf when he leave your seating
area. I have no drafts in my office, ok, I had to move to a cube so no
more office, but it tends to get very warm even though when I move to
other places it's fine. I just keep a small fan on.

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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wrote in message
...
MCP, Molly: Do you folks smoke?

Could explain the chills your'e feeling. I grew up around 2nd hand smoke
and I was cold even in Summe time!

On Jun 7, 7:40*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Christopher A. Young

Smoking around kids should be called what it is ....... !!!CHILD
ABUSE!!!

I grew up in a smoking household and hated it....

Smoking in a vehicle with a child onboard should be a ticketable
offense with notification of CYS.

Studies recently showed that even if a parent smokes outside the
lingering smoke on their body the stentch can make kids ill.......

Raise tobacco taxes a buck a pack every year from not till eternity.

And if a smoker gets COPD / emphesma big tobacco should PAY for the
victims health care costs!

Yes, I completely agree. There has been a long standing campaign about lead
paint. I'd like to see similar energy put into protecting children from
smoke.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"bob haller" wrote in message
news:789d392f-c2fd-4ba5-a447-

Smoking around kids should be called what it is ....... !!!CHILD
ABUSE!!!

I grew up in a smoking household and hated it....

Smoking in a vehicle with a child onboard should be a ticketable
offense with notification of CYS.

Studies recently showed that even if a parent smokes outside the
lingering smoke on their body the stentch can make kids ill.......

Raise tobacco taxes a buck a pack every year from not till eternity.

And if a smoker gets COPD / emphesma big tobacco should PAY for the
victims health care costs!

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT), Molly Brown wrote:

men used to wear scarves all the time especially before the invention of
antibiotics when catching a cold was dangerous as it sometimes tends
to turn into a bacterial infection. It may well become a necessity
again with some infections developing immunity to antibiotics.

The idea that colds are caused by drafts or getting chilled is nothing but
an old wive's tale that refuses to go away.

On Jun 6, 11:31*pm, Evan wrote:
On Jun 6, 4:30*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:





On Jun 6, 3:56*pm, Evan wrote:

On Jun 6, 3:46*pm, DerbyDad03 wrote:

On Jun 6, 10:49*am, mcp6453 wrote:

My office is in a cubicle. There is a draft on the back of my neck. The only
vent in my cube or within 5 feet of it are closed. The walls on the cube are 8
feet tall.

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze so that I can block it. The temperature is not bad; it's the draft.
What creative ideas do you guys have for finding the source of air flow? (The
HVAC guy couldn't tell me where it's coming from. I think the building has weird
air currents flowing in it.)

If they will allow it, get some Smoke Matches from Grainger.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/Smoke-Matches-3KLK4

I used them to check the airflow in my attic.

Be aware of nearby smoke detectors. Maybe have the HVAC guy nearby and
let your manager know first so that no one is surprised by the smoke.

ROFL...

The smoke detectors you can see in the office are only
part of what you have to worry about, commercial buildings
also have smoke detectors inside the HVAC duct work as
well...

Definitely not something for an employee to do to try and
locate a "draft"... *Possibly not even for the OP's employer
to do if they are only a tenant in the building...

The "best cost": or "least cost" option here is for the OP
to request a new desk assignment from the office
manager...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Requesting a new desk assignment can be more costly than one might
imagine.

First off, there has to be a someplace to swap to, someplace that
doesn't impact work flow. If there were an issue in my office, moving
to a new location would be next to impossible since I'm part of a team
that interacts with each other, face to face, constantly throughout
the day. There are no "spare" offices anywhere near mine. In fact,
there aren't even any open offices on my floor. I know all about
"global teams" (I've been on a few) and I know the saying that "the
world is flat", but if our team wasn't grouped within shouting
distance we would be much less efficient. The same goes for other
teams in our office, so simply swapping offices with someone who might
not mind the draft wouldn't be cost effective in the long run.

Phone and computer access *might* be as easy as swapping a few plugs
in a closet or it might involve much more, depending on LAN
configurations, phone numbers that ring on more than one phone, access
to shared servers, and location, location, location. Parts of our
office building - within the same company - have different prefixes
for phone numbers and a move from one side of the building to another
would mean a change of phone numbers, which leads to new business
cards, letterhead, etc., all of which have both a direct and indirect
monetary impact.

All I'm saying is that it may not be easy or even cost effective to
move the employee just to avoid a draft.

Umm, yeah, it is... *Unless your employer is using rather old
and outdated equipment... *Contacting the landlord or HVAC
technicians over a "draft" which will never be able to be corrected
because it has been a feature of that space since its last
physical remodel all over one employee's "comfort" is expensive...
There are required ventilation room air changes per hour, bringing
in enough outside air and having it preconditioned to offset the
CO2 being given off by the workers and also the capacity to
quickly remove smoke from the building via using some of the
same fans... *You are now discussing an engineering problem
which would be more than the HVAC technician adjusting
a louver on a vent grille...

If you are talking an "office" that means you are an employee of
a certain level of prestige, rather than desk/workspace... *An office
has four walls (floor to ceiling), a ceiling and a lockable door that
no one can reach over from the outside and open...
A desk/workspace may not have those features...

If moving from one side of the building to the other at your employer
means changing phone numbers those sections of the building
are either served by entirely separate phone systems or the system
is old enough to require physically altering the wiring to accomplish
the move...

Moving someone from one work station to any other in offices with
equipment installed in the past 10 years is a matter of port swapping
within the phone system dynamically using the system software
without making any hardware or wiring changes... *Computer ? *LOL
most people's office computers won't allow them to save or alter
files locally and they are merely accessing a set of working and
personal folders on a network drive so the computer itself is not
moved nor requires any changes beyond perhaps reconfiguring
the employee's user account to allow them to log on from their
new desk location...

A workgroup that is assigned the same project need not work
all within the exact same physical space, yeah, it is very
convenient when they can, but this is not always possible,
that is why there are conference spaces for small group
meetings in most office areas... *If your team brought in a
new staff member right now, they would not relocate other
employees which are not a part of that group from the surrounding
cubicles to make space for that one person, they would get
a desk somewhere...

You should feel somewhat lucky if your office is at 100%
population, that means that your employer is either doing
really well, or could mean that you are headed for troubled
times ahead... *Either way, by not having any empty expansion
space anywhere in your working unit, whomever is in charge
of space utilization is not doing their job properly because there
is no way to add someone to any given project without relocating
someone else who isn't working on that project...

Most employers also tend to have empty cubicles around
for when traveling employees are in town, an employee that
normally telecommutes has to be present in the office for
some reason and for itinerant projects like tax season/auditing
type projects where outside agents need to do work on the
premises without closing off access to the conference space
to all the other employees while that work takes place...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Everything you've said is absoulutely correct...in a perfect world.

You appear to know enough about the business environment to know that
the perfect world rarely exists in the real world.

While it's easy to sit far away from the actual situation and say
"Tell your manager that you want to move to a different cubicle. It's
the least expensive alternative.", I'm sure you are aware that there
are so many other variables involved that it's often not as easy - or
inexpensive - as it sounds.

Only the OP can tells us if moving is a viable option in their
specific situation.

If it really is a draft, a thin light ribbon will work. Something
like the old Christmas tree tinsel. Tape it to the end of a stick.
If you can't find anything like that, cut a thin strip of the thinnest
paper you can find. The end will usually flutter.

A puff of baby powder can work too. Sometimes the can will puff a bit
out when you squeeze it.

Very likely it is not a draft. Are you near a window? It is common
to feel radiative heat loss from your warm body to a cold surface, and
think it is air movement when it is really not.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

On 6/7/2012 9:37 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.


it's still 20% (as of 2010), but down significantly from 1965 (42%).

i don't really consider 20% as low.

On 6/7/2012 10:42 AM, chaniarts wrote:
On 6/7/2012 9:37 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one
got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing
aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He
grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.


it's still 20% (as of 2010), but down significantly from 1965 (42%).

i don't really consider 20% as low.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762370.html

On Jun 7, 12:37*pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. *No smoke involved at all. *He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. *The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

Maybe the smoking rate is low compared to other countries, but the
price of smoking is rediculous.

When I worked in a corner drugstore you could buy a carton of
cigarettes for about $2.50. I'm sure that there are others in this
group who remember even lower prices, since those were NYC prices.

Today, the price of a single pack is four times that amount, going
even higher when the new taxes hit in July.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ne...y-now-costs-11

For someone who averages a pack a day, they could quit, lease a luxury
car for that amount of money and smell so much better besides.

On 2012-06-06, mcp6453 wrote:

I've tried a cigarette lighter, my hand, and a suspended Kleenex to find the
darn breeze...

Fire up a doob


--
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:42:06 -0700, chaniarts
wrote:

On 6/7/2012 9:37 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.


it's still 20% (as of 2010), but down significantly from 1965 (42%).

i don't really consider 20% as low.\

In comparison to much of the rest of the developed world, it's pretty low and
falling.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:12:01 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Jun 7, 12:37*pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. *No smoke involved at all. *He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. *The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

Maybe the smoking rate is low compared to other countries, but the
price of smoking is rediculous.

There's a connection there, no?

When I worked in a corner drugstore you could buy a carton of
cigarettes for about $2.50. I'm sure that there are others in this
group who remember even lower prices, since those were NYC prices.

Today, the price of a single pack is four times that amount, going
even higher when the new taxes hit in July.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ne...y-now-costs-11

For someone who averages a pack a day, they could quit, lease a luxury
car for that amount of money and smell so much better besides.

Indeed, though in NYC you can get thrown in jail for even thinking about
drinking a large Coke. ;-)

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 7, 12:37 pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

Maybe the smoking rate is low compared to other countries, but the
price of smoking is rediculous.

When I worked in a corner drugstore you could buy a carton of
cigarettes for about $2.50. I'm sure that there are others in this
group who remember even lower prices, since those were NYC prices.

Today, the price of a single pack is four times that amount, going
even higher when the new taxes hit in July.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ne...y-now-costs-11

For someone who averages a pack a day, they could quit, lease a luxury
car for that amount of money and smell so much better besides.

Pa. Makes a billion dollars a year in cigarette taxes. If all quit,
everyone's tax would have to increase by $166.

Greg

" wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:42:06 -0700, chaniarts
wrote:

On 6/7/2012 9:37 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.


it's still 20% (as of 2010), but down significantly from 1965 (42%).

i don't really consider 20% as low.\

In comparison to much of the rest of the developed world, it's pretty low and
falling.

If you go into a bar around here, it's likely more than 50% smoke. Bars
serving a lot of food have no smoking. Bars having little food and smoking,
under age children not allowed in. Restaurants, no smoking.

Greg

On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:46:45 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

" wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:42:06 -0700, chaniarts
wrote:

On 6/7/2012 9:37 AM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.


it's still 20% (as of 2010), but down significantly from 1965 (42%).

i don't really consider 20% as low.\

In comparison to much of the rest of the developed world, it's pretty low and
falling.

If you go into a bar around here, it's likely more than 50% smoke. Bars
serving a lot of food have no smoking. Bars having little food and smoking,
under age children not allowed in. Restaurants, no smoking.

Sounds like an ideal tradeoff. Where?

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 04:50:00 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:




Smoking around kids should be called what it is ....... !!!CHILD
ABUSE!!!

I grew up in a smoking household and hated it....

Smoking in a vehicle with a child onboard should be a ticketable
offense with notification of CYS.

Studies recently showed that even if a parent smokes outside the
lingering smoke on their body the stentch can make kids ill.......

Raise tobacco taxes a buck a pack every year from not till eternity.

And if a smoker gets COPD / emphesma big tobacco should PAY for the
victims health care costs!

Most of my generation grew up in the house of smokers. Eventually, I
did to, but quit about 40 years ago. We didn't know any better as it
was normal behavior back then.

As for sickness, can't say it affected us. Three of us kids and we
were rarely sick.

On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:19:23 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 7, 12:37 pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

Maybe the smoking rate is low compared to other countries, but the
price of smoking is rediculous.

When I worked in a corner drugstore you could buy a carton of
cigarettes for about $2.50. I'm sure that there are others in this
group who remember even lower prices, since those were NYC prices.

Today, the price of a single pack is four times that amount, going
even higher when the new taxes hit in July.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ne...y-now-costs-11

For someone who averages a pack a day, they could quit, lease a luxury
car for that amount of money and smell so much better besides.

Pa. Makes a billion dollars a year in cigarette taxes. If all quit,
everyone's tax would have to increase by $166.

But that's supposed to pay for smoking education and such. If no one smoked,
there wouldn't be any need for that money, right? ;-)

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:02:33 -0400, "
wrote:




Indeed, though in NYC you can get thrown in jail for even thinking about
drinking a large Coke. ;-)

I agree that the 32 oz. soda is too much sugar to drink, but I'll be
damned if I want the government to tell me not to do it. I'd rather
use common sense. Besides, those that want it will just buy two
smaller drinks.

On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT), TimR
wrote:




Very likely it is not a draft. Are you near a window? It is common
to feel radiative heat loss from your warm body to a cold surface, and
think it is air movement when it is really not.


Just as common to feel the draft from a cold window as the air cools
and drops. Need proof? Come to my office on a cold day and sit in my
chair with the window in back of me.

" wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 00:19:23 +0000 (UTC), gregz wrote:

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 7, 12:37 pm, "
wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
My parents were both smokers. I had ear infections often. And, one got left
too long, the infection damaged my hearing. I'll have to wear hearing aids
for the rest of my life.

Anecdote evidence
Corelatoin causation

My son had terrible ear infections, too. No smoke involved at all. He grew
out of it.

Folks, please do not smoke around children, ever. Better, do not smoke,
ever.

Good idea, but not realistic. The smoking rate in the US is rather low,
actually.

Maybe the smoking rate is low compared to other countries, but the
price of smoking is rediculous.

When I worked in a corner drugstore you could buy a carton of
cigarettes for about $2.50. I'm sure that there are others in this
group who remember even lower prices, since those were NYC prices.

Today, the price of a single pack is four times that amount, going
even higher when the new taxes hit in July.

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/ne...y-now-costs-11

For someone who averages a pack a day, they could quit, lease a luxury
car for that amount of money and smell so much better besides.

Pa. Makes a billion dollars a year in cigarette taxes. If all quit,
everyone's tax would have to increase by $166.

But that's supposed to pay for smoking education and such. If no one smoked,
there wouldn't be any need for that money, right? ;-)

They spend some on that, mostly they need the money, bad, like most places.
Here in Pennsylvania.

Greg in pa.

to the OP..

the draft is probably coming from the register vent even if it
"closed" they usually aren't really fully closed..

It is a shame that so much energy is wasted over air conditioning so
many buildings..

My suggestion to you is to wear warm clothes to work and get a desk
lamp with a 75 Watt incandescent spot light bulb to shine on your
hands, it will keep you warm.. or a floor lamp an shine it on your
back..

the extra warm light is nice too...

Mark

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 21:59:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:02:33 -0400, "
wrote:




Indeed, though in NYC you can get thrown in jail for even thinking about
drinking a large Coke. ;-)

I agree that the 32 oz. soda is too much sugar to drink, but I'll be
damned if I want the government to tell me not to do it. I'd rather
use common sense. Besides, those that want it will just buy two
smaller drinks.

A 32oz. Coke is often the equivalent a can of coke and 20oz. of ice. In any
case, it's none of Mayor Doomberg's f'n business what I drink.