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I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual
friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? |
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On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus:
I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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"Country" wrote in message ... I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? It will be clear, calm, and 78 degrees today. Of course, it may be different where YOU are. At MY HD's, in St. George and Cedar City, Utah, all is alive and well. No employee passes without saying hello, asking you if you need any help, and then walking you to the product you asked about instead of pointing. Getting to know some of the employees by a first name basis, and a nod when I'm running around getting stuff for a current remodel. No problem about getting help, or bad attitudes. Each store has its own autonomy, personalities, politics, management, help, and other issues. Some are doing better than others, hence, at those stores, employees are working full weeks instead of partial weeks, which can affect ANYONE'S attitude. MHO, YMMV. And probably does. Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:18 -0800 (PST), Country
wrote: everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Maybe you were in a bad mood? That changes your perceptions greatly. Edward |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4cdc3ce1$0$2535
: On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. |
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On Nov 11, 1:45*pm, Edward Reid
wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:18 -0800 (PST), Country wrote: everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Maybe you were in a bad mood? That changes your perceptions greatly. Edward Nope. |
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On 11/11/2010 12:58 PM Country spake thus:
On Nov 11, 1:45 pm, Edward Reid wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:18 -0800 (PST), Country wrote: everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Maybe you were in a bad mood? That changes your perceptions greatly. Nope. So where is your big orange store? -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:58:56 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote: On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. Here in Waterloo Ontario they've upshifted a little bit because "there is a new sherrif in town". Lowes opens very soon. Rona wasn't a real strong competitor, particularly being the far side of Kitchener and being Rona. |
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"Red Green" wrote in message ... David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4cdc3ce1$0$2535 : On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve |
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On Nov 11, 3:33*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 11/11/2010 12:58 PM Country spake thus: On Nov 11, 1:45 pm, Edward Reid wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:40:18 -0800 (PST), Country wrote: everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Maybe you were in a bad mood? That changes your perceptions greatly. Nope. So where is your big orange store? -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) Coldwater, Michigan. |
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Just from a customer eye point of view. I was in the Victor, NY HD, a
couple times, last day or two. The service was less than usual. Usually they are very successful with pestering me with the endless greetings. Last couple days, I've been less pestered. I don't know anything about their internal politics or policies. Lowe's in Macedon, NY. I really resent the bilingual signage. I like the melting pot USA, not the salad bowl. That said, their customer service was nearly zero. I had to go several aisles away to ask someone, who turned out to be both clueless, and didn't encourage me to finish my story and didn't ask me what I wanted. He handed me off to "the girl" who enlisted the old grey haired guy who really knew his hardware. I really felt the lack of customer service in both stores. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Country" wrote in message ... I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? |
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"Country" wrote in message ... I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Here in small town Canon City, CO all the employees are friendly, eager to help. Know what they are doing, greet you at the entry and thank you when you leave. As for lumber they show they will cut to size 2 cuts free. I have had as many as 6 cuts and never a charge. Now the larger towns near by (50 miles) is a whole different outlook. I avoid them. Maybe because this is a friendly small town the attitude is different. WW |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:58:56 -0800, David Nebenzahl
wrote: On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. I've found this varies from region to region, not so much store to store. I don't know if it's regional management or perhaps they "feel the heat" in some areas more than others. |
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When I worked for McDonalds. I found that the employees mood was
totally based on who was managing, and the manager's mood. I'm thinking same deal occurs at any other retail or wholesale location. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... I've found this varies from region to region, not so much store to store. I don't know if it's regional management or perhaps they "feel the heat" in some areas more than others. |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:41:48 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: When I worked for McDonalds. I found that the employees mood was totally based on who was managing, and the manager's mood. I'm thinking same deal occurs at any other retail or wholesale location. Absolutely! When management starts telling you how good things are and how "you are in charge of your attitude", you know things are about to get even worse. :-( |
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On 11/11/2010 1:40 PM, Country wrote:
I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? I posted a thread on this a couple months ago. I'm in HD's home town, so I probably see things earlier. What I do know is that they brought in some outside management to redo some things. Shortly after I saw about what you did. Employees doing the letter of their job, but indifferent to customers to the point that they didn't want to be bothered. FWIW, it seems to be back to normal. Not that the HD employees I see really like working there, never really have. Lowes has got a much happier group. Jeff |
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: "Red Green" wrote in message ... David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4cdc3ce1$0$2535 : On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve I know. Employees should not expect to have lunch around lunchtime which is somewhere around midshift. |
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"Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. In some states a 7 hour stretch like that is illegal for safety reasons |
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"Red Green" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in : "Red Green" wrote in message ... David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4cdc3ce1$0$2535 : On 11/11/2010 10:40 AM Country spake thus: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay, virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Ackshooly, since I'm in my local store almost weekly, I've noticed over the last year or so a definite upgrading of the staff, as well as a noticeably cleaner store. They seemed to have gone on something of a hiring spree, and also seem to be responding to what they must know is a ****-poor customer service image. But this may vary from store to store. Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve I know. Employees should not expect to have lunch around lunchtime which is somewhere around midshift. Damn right. Employees are entitled to take lunch whenever they want. And take as long as they want. Steve |
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"LouB" wrote in message ... Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. In some states a 7 hour stretch like that is illegal for safety reasons It is definitely a safety issue. There is a falling off of performance about 3 hours after a fat heavy meal, and slightly longer for a carbohydrate based meal. Based on a study by a Certified Safety Professional with the Board of Certified Safety Professionals who owned Schram Catering, the largest caterer in the Gulf of Mexico. Steve |
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When I was a McDrone, in about 1983. We had a top loading VHS, in the
break room. The movie I remember called "You set the beat". Which essentially said that the front line employee controls the mood and attitude of the store. I found, in the year I worked there, that the manager set the mood. And you're right, about the "cheer up, things could get worse". They do. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:41:48 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: When I worked for McDonalds. I found that the employees mood was totally based on who was managing, and the manager's mood. I'm thinking same deal occurs at any other retail or wholesale location. Absolutely! When management starts telling you how good things are and how "you are in charge of your attitude", you know things are about to get even worse. :-( |
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On Nov 11, 1:40*pm, Country wrote:
I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Since when was HD's service anything other than worthless? nate |
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On 11/11/2010 10:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. ISTR something in labor law about no more than 5 hours in a row without a meal break? Or maybe that is just the union contract where I work. (Legally meaningless, since I work for the Feds, but still mostly followed anyway.) But yeah, expecting people to work (other than in an emergency) an oddball shift like that, is an indicator of ****-poor planning. By the last 2-3 hours of their shift, even for healthy people, their sugar levels will be way low, they will be making more mistakes and getting less work done, and they will be snapping at the customers. Hungry people are cranky people. -- aem sends... |
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aemeijers wrote in
: On 11/11/2010 10:45 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. ISTR something in labor law about no more than 5 hours in a row without a meal break? Or maybe that is just the union contract where I work. (Legally meaningless, since I work for the Feds, but still mostly followed anyway.) But yeah, expecting people to work (other than in an emergency) an oddball shift like that, is an indicator of ****-poor planning. By the last 2-3 hours of their shift, even for healthy people, their sugar levels will be way low, they will be making more mistakes and getting less work done, and they will be snapping at the customers. Hungry people are cranky people. I really don't know the legal rules and probably vary state to state. Probably something like building code where there's a national/federal code and local states can be more restrictive. I seem to remember something about xx minute break for ever 4 continuous hrs of work. May have been a company policy and not a rule. |
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Maybe just the usual crap? Stupid, overbearing bosses, crappy pay,
virtually no training, etc.? Friend of mine works at the Despot and reports all of the above. Why do they need training? Aren't they just salespersons? All they need to tell the customers is just where the stuff is... |
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aemeijers wrote:
-snip- ISTR something in labor law about no more than 5 hours in a row without a meal break? Or maybe that is just the union contract where I work. (Legally meaningless, since I work for the Feds, but still mostly followed anyway.) Here is NY's law on it; http://www.labor.ny.gov/workerprotec...yer/meals.shtm 30 years ago I worked retail & the employer was breaking that law. A person complained. The employer found out. He fired them. When the labor folks came around to investigate the complaint, the employer told them he didn't work there anymore-- so there was no investigation. Retail work sucks. But I'm glad I did it for a few months just so I could appreciate some of the better jobs I've had. Jim |
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On Nov 11, 9:00*pm, Jeff Thies wrote:
On 11/11/2010 1:40 PM, Country wrote: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? I posted a thread on this a couple months ago. I'm in HD's home town, so I probably see things earlier. * *What I do know is that they brought in some outside management to redo some things. Shortly after I saw about what you did. Employees doing the letter of their job, but indifferent to customers to the point that they didn't want to be bothered. * *FWIW, it seems to be back to normal. Not that the HD employees I see really like working there, never really have. Lowes has got a much happier group. * *Jeff Yeah, I think the memory of that thread is what made me wonder about the change I saw this time. Could have been just a bad day in that particular store, tho. -C- |
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On 11/12/2010 5:12 AM N8N spake thus:
On Nov 11, 1:40 pm, Country wrote: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Since when was HD's service anything other than worthless? Seems to be the luck of the draw. I have found some HD employees who are actually very knowledgable and helpful. One old guy in the store I shop at (Emeryville, CA) is very good with electrical stuff. -- The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring, with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags. - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com) |
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David Nebenzahl wrote in news:4cdd7e3e$0$2548
: On 11/12/2010 5:12 AM N8N spake thus: On Nov 11, 1:40 pm, Country wrote: I was in my local Home Depot the other day and instead of the usual friendly service everyone I saw working there looked like they were not very happy to be there and a lot less friendly and less patient than what I remember. Anything bad going on in the world of HD? Since when was HD's service anything other than worthless? Seems to be the luck of the draw. I have found some HD employees who are actually very knowledgable and helpful. One old guy in the store I shop at (Emeryville, CA) is very good with electrical stuff. Oh I've found them too at both Borg in multiple stores. Then they suddenly disappear... |
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Steve B wrote:
"LouB" wrote in message In some states a 7 hour stretch like that is illegal for safety reasons It is definitely a safety issue. There is a falling off of performance about 3 hours after a fat heavy meal, and slightly longer for a carbohydrate based meal. Based on a study by a Certified Safety Professional with the Board of Certified Safety Professionals who owned Schram Catering, the largest caterer in the Gulf of Mexico. Here in Oregon, a 15 minute paid break is required after two hours working. After four hours, you get a 30 minute unpaid break. Of course, depending on the job, it may not be appropriate to take advantage of the system, but you do have the legal right to demand it. Jon |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message .com... Since when was HD's service anything other than worthless? Seems to be the luck of the draw. I have found some HD employees who are actually very knowledgable and helpful. One old guy in the store I shop at (Emeryville, CA) is very good with electrical stuff. Seems to be that way in most any store. I have talked with electricians in the stores that were working there because of bad economy or they were retired. Same as in an electrical supply store I know of. Sometimes you just get a guy that only knows where the item is on the shelf if you can show him one. |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 02:06:04 -0500, LouB wrote:
Ed Pawlowski wrote: "Steve B" wrote Back a bit in NC I was in one and the tool dept head was venting to another employee. From what I overheard (and it wasn't hard) they wanted some people to come in, work for an hour, take their lunch break then work the remaining shift. Imagine that. Am employer asking an employee to do something! Ridiculous! Steve Schedule like that makes for a messed up day. I'd certainly bitch about it. Work an hour, break an hours, work seven hours. That would get old fast. In some states a 7 hour stretch like that is illegal for safety reasons In Canada it is law - 1/2 hour break after 5 hours. |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:33:47 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: When I was a McDrone, in about 1983. We had a top loading VHS, in the break room. The movie I remember called "You set the beat". Which essentially said that the front line employee controls the mood and attitude of the store. I found, in the year I worked there, that the manager set the mood. And you're right, about the "cheer up, things could get worse". They do. Translated: "The floggings will continue until the morale improves". |
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"Jon Danniken" wrote Here in Oregon, a 15 minute paid break is required after two hours working. After four hours, you get a 30 minute unpaid break. Of course, depending on the job, it may not be appropriate to take advantage of the system, but you do have the legal right to demand it. Jon Two hour is on the short side by law. IIRC, in MA it is six hours. In an 8 hour day you have to allow 30 minutes unpaid, but you can give a shorter pair break if the employees prefers it. We give 10 - 15- 10 all paid, but they still have the option of a 30 minute unpaid for lunch. The law allows certain job classifications to have no break. You have to provide water, toilets, and not much more. No minimum heat required. Laws aside, you don't keep good and get good work from people unless you treat them well. |
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