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Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick
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Nick Aron wrote:
Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick


Concrete blocks to set on the floor, with a cardboard pad so you don't
scuff the baseboard. Glue the board to wall, and shove blocks up against
it until the glue sets. After you are done, use them in the garden for
edging, or in the workshop to hold up shelves. Sounds like they didn't
age the boards well enough before they milled them, or you didn't keep
them dry enough after you got them. Don't be surprised if they pop back
off, though- warped wood is stronger than the bond of the surface paper
to the gypsum underneath it.

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Thanks for your reply. I wonder if there is another method? Maybe
screws? Screw it into the drywall to hold in place?

I don't want the bricks to damage the floor (it's brand new)...

The most likely is that they didn't allow it to cure enough. We got
it, sanded it and immediately put on sealer. The baseboards were
certainly never in the rain once we had them.
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Thanks for your reply. I wonder if there is another method? Maybe
screws? Screw it into the drywall to hold in place?

I don't want the bricks to damage the floor (it's brand new)...

The most likely is that they didn't allow it to cure enough. We got
it, sanded it and immediately put on sealer. The baseboards were
certainly never in the rain once we had them.


Rent or borrow an air nailier that shoots nail 1" longer than the combined
thickness of the drywall and base. One or two nail every 16" into the stud
and or sill plate will hold it forever.

No offense intended, I personally consider glue to amateur way of installing
base and trim


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Nick Aron wrote:
Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick


Nails. Or screws. Into the same things the drywall is fastened to... the
sole plate (at the bottom) and studs. If there is a slight gap at the top
of the baseboard after nailing, caulk it and paint same color as wall.
There most likely *will* be gaps because drywalls aren't straight due to the
humps at joints.

You could use molly bolts - they go through the drywall and expand behind
it - but it would be a horrendous and unnecessary task.


I agree...but what is not stated is the amount of variance from
"straight". Sometimes it is the wall that is out of straight. Typical
fix for gaps is to caulk and paint along top edge. The lumber could
have been straightened by dampening the concave side and then clamping
or weighting it until it dried. Might still work, but with sealer
already applied I would have doubts. Angling nails slightly will help
keep it from pulling away from the wall over time.


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Thanks everyone for your help.

Seems like everyone agrees i'm going to need to use screws or nails, I
like the idea of screws better just because it will have more grab
than a nail. Yes hitting the studs sounds like the best idea.

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On Apr 15, 10:04*pm, Nick Aron wrote:
Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick


You might consider back kerfing the baseboard to ease the fit to the
wall. But that will add time to your project.
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Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick


Don't attempt to attach the baseboard *to* the drywall, rather, attach the
drywall through the drywall to the wall behind it.

If the warpage is minor nails should work OK. If the warpage is major then
you can either use screws, or perhaps make some partial cuts through the
back of the wood to reduce its desire to bend.

Another option might be to shorten the baseboard and make more seams.

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Nick Aron wrote:
Hello All,

I have a problem with some cedar baseboard. We got it straight from a
mill. It took us 2 days to sand and tint 30 meters of it.

The problem is that the wood either came with or has developed a
slight bend. The bends range in all directions and in almost all
pieces (a couple are straight).

The main issue I have right now is that these are not going into
concrete walls like the rest of my house they are going into drywall
so I acquired a tube of a no nails type of glue. The problem is though
that I can't force the baseboard into the correct position without
securing it with something.

Here are some options i've thinking about:

- Nail some finishing nails to the bottom rail that runs on the floor
(1/4" is used up by the floor though) and use the glue.

- Nail long steel nails through the drywall and into the concrete wall
behind it (possible on 3 walls and all the stairs) ofcourse glue would
be applied as well.

- Glue a section of the baseboard. Leave it for a couple hours and
then come back and glue the next part, etc. This could potentially
take an eternity.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance, Nick


Here's the trick if the floor is not level:

* Cut the baseboard to the correct length and prop it up against the wall.
* Open a school-compass to the widest gap seen and draw a line using the
floor as the guide.
* Cut - or sand - the bottom of the baseboard to match the line.


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