Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

"harry" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Maybe we should start eating like humans

"harry" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Now many of us get paid twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses
every few months
and so on.

WTF are you talking about?

On Jan 30, 1:58*pm, harry wrote:
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Not to worry, the government in its wisdom is going to turn the clock
back. Soon only a few ill have jobs and those who do, will be forced
to use public transportation. So the entrances that exist will be
adequate for the bag of groceries you can bring home on the bus or
train. See the Portland plan, / the vanishing automobile one example,
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10963

...There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few
months and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon
methods. Now we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge
amounts of groceries....

The new house design should be a garage situated next to the kitchen.

And cabinet like doors which open up in the garage. On the other side of
these doors would be the kitchen counter top!

So drive into your garage, open the cabinet doors, then unload your
groceries right into the kitchen...

My Dad mentioned that concept to me, thirty some years ago.
About that time, someone noticed that cars very rarely
caught fire. As such, building codes now include fire wall,
self closing door from the garage to the house, adn some
other things. To build a pass through kitchen cabinet would
lose most of the fire resistance.

Years ago, I took a fire protection course. We learned the
#1 cause of home fires was smoking, #2 in frequency was
heating devices, though heating devices were the #1 cause of
damage, as they were usually out of sight.

We don't have firewalls around people who smoke in bed, nor
self closing bedroom doors. I think that whole thing needs
reevaluate.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Bill"
wrote in message ...


The new house design should be a garage situated next to the
kitchen.

And cabinet like doors which open up in the garage. On the
other side of
these doors would be the kitchen counter top!

So drive into your garage, open the cabinet doors, then
unload your
groceries right into the kitchen...

harry wrote in news:3d7cbf2e-568c-4355-90c8-
:

Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32


You need to be a bit more selective of the mushrooms you eat from the
woods.

On Jan 30, 2:58*pm, harry wrote:
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

This has got to be a troll, but what the heck...

"You will need a dock to place groceries before opening front
door...steps to the door...all under roof/cover....Sitting groceries
down on a dirty, garage floor does not compute."

At my house, I have a rather unique setup: It's called a "garage with
a door into the kitchen".

I also have a unique way of getting the groceries into the house
without "sitting them down on a dirty garage floor." I carry them
directly from the vehicle into the kitchen. Novel...I know...but I'm a
trendsetter.

Even when I don't want to (or, typically, don't have room to) pull
into the garage, I am able to back up to the garage door - which is
under an overhang - and unload completely under cover, once again
using my radical "carry 'em from the vehicle into the kitchen"
relocation technique.

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Truth is, you have issues: DerbyDad03 9:18 PM

Bill wrote:
...There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few
months and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon
methods. Now we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge
amounts of groceries....

The new house design should be a garage situated next to the kitchen.

And cabinet like doors which open up in the garage. On the other side of
these doors would be the kitchen counter top!

So drive into your garage, open the cabinet doors, then unload your
groceries right into the kitchen...


Hard to make a fire break that way....

--
aem sends...

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:14:28 -0500, "RBM" wrote:


"harry" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Yes, the truth will set you free. And like the Easter bunny and Santa
Claus, there is no "god", no Jesus, none of it. There's just us.
That's the truth.

I used to be an atheist. I'd never want to go back.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message
...


Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Yes, the truth will set you free. And like the Easter bunny
and Santa
Claus, there is no "god", no Jesus, none of it. There's
just us.
That's the truth.

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I used to be an atheist. I'd never want to go back.

Reality is scary, but it beats fairy tales.

--
aem sends...

On Jan 30, 2:58*pm, harry wrote:
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Who let you out of the nuthatch? Where are your keepers?

On Jan 30, 1:58*pm, harry wrote:
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Back in "the old days" how old are you, take your horse by a better
neighborhood and look at all the 80 yr old covered horse entrances.

Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:14:28 -0500, "RBM" wrote:

"harry" wrote in message
...
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Yes, the truth will set you free. And like the Easter bunny and Santa
Claus, there is no "god", no Jesus, none of it. There's just us.
That's the truth.

[Crying] What do you mean there is no easter bunny or Santa Claus? YOu
liar, stop saying that stuff. Sniff sniff.

On Jan 30, 2:58*pm, harry wrote:

The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

I already have this. My house was built in 1948.

Cindy Hamilton

In article , Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I used to be an atheist. I'd never want to go back.

You were never an atheist. You might have "hated God," or turned your
back on him, or led a life that you imagine all atheists lead ("I was a
drunk, did drugs / sold drugs, had sex with whores, lied, stole, hated
God and had absolutely no morals or ethics"), but you were never an
atheist.

Losing and subsequently lacking belief in fairy tales for grownups is
no different from losing and subsequently lacking belief in childhood
fairy tales. You can't suddenly start believing in Santa Claus again
without serious cognitive dissonance.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

Have we ever met in person, or are you fantasizing?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I used to be an atheist. I'd never want to go back.

You were never an atheist. You might have "hated God," or
turned your
back on him, or led a life that you imagine all atheists
lead ("I was a
drunk, did drugs / sold drugs, had sex with whores, lied,
stole, hated
God and had absolutely no morals or ethics"), but you were
never an
atheist.

Losing and subsequently lacking belief in fairy tales for
grownups is
no different from losing and subsequently lacking belief in
childhood
fairy tales. You can't suddenly start believing in Santa
Claus again
without serious cognitive dissonance.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

On Feb 2, 6:59*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
Have we ever met in person, or are you fantasizing?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Frank Warner" wrote in message

. ..
In article ,
Stormin Mormon

wrote:
I used to be an atheist. I'd never want to go back.

You were never an atheist. You might have "hated God," or
turned your
back on him, or led a life that you imagine all atheists
lead ("I was a
drunk, did drugs / sold drugs, had sex with whores, lied,
stole, hated
God and had absolutely no morals or ethics"), but you were
never an
atheist.

Losing and subsequently lacking belief in fairy tales for
grownups is
no different from losing and subsequently lacking belief in
childhood
fairy tales. You can't suddenly start believing in Santa
Claus again
without serious cognitive dissonance.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:http://www.franksknives.com/




Hello,

City folk have no garage arrangement. Iam talking about the entrance.

On Feb 2, 9:27*pm, harry wrote:

*** snip ***

Hello,

City folk have no garage arrangement. I am talking about the entrance.

I am city folk.

I grew up in NYC. Had a garage. Had an overhang. Had access to the
house from the garage, also known as an "entrance".

I now live in another city. I already described my garage arrangement
in an earlier post.

Next.

In article , Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Have we ever met in person, or are you fantasizing?

So, what made you change your "mind?"

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

I changed my mind from Atheist to Mormon when I felt the
Spirit of the Lord during the lessons. Also, the message the
missionaries taught me. Each new thing. I already knew it
some how, but not by hearing it on Earth.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Stormin Mormon
wrote:

Have we ever met in person, or are you fantasizing?

So, what made you change your "mind?"

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

Eric in North TX wrote:
On Jan 30, 1:58 pm, harry wrote:
Hello,

Back in the old days we lived in small communities, where you would
walk to the market area, and carry home your daily, meals-to-be-
prepared groceries. There was no refrigeration etc. It was on this
basis entrances to the home were contrived. Now many of us get paid
twice or once a month, and some people get bonuses every few months
and so on. This has changed our bringing-home-the-bacon methods. Now
we use huge vehicles into which we pack huge amounts of groceries. I
do monthly shopping and pack a truck. I drive 30 miles to my favourite
store and back = 60 miles for the “monthly” shopping, but through the
month, pick up some things locally.

As you can see due to the change in food packaging and shopping
habits, we must change the entrances to homes. We will need a
glorified loading dock of sorts, from now on, on newly built homes,
and itwill have to be something somewhat inexpensive. Here are
examples of specs:
The steps and/or part of the walkway to the door will need to be under
roof/cover. Youwill need a dock to place groceries before opening
front door; the dock will, of course, need to be under roof/cover. If
thereare steps to the door, they too will need to be under roof/cover:
in other words you will walk up your steps, to the door - all under
roof/cover. The idea is to be able to open your door without having to
stand in the rain to do so, but to have been able to first sit down
the groceries in a safe, clean, dry place. Sitting groceries down on a
dirty, garage floor doesnot compute, therefore thereis no easy way out
on this.

Truly

Truth will set you free: John 8:32

Not to worry, the government in its wisdom is going to turn the clock
back. Soon only a few ill have jobs and those who do, will be forced
to use public transportation. So the entrances that exist will be
adequate for the bag of groceries you can bring home on the bus or
train. See the Portland plan, / the vanishing automobile one example,
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10963

Wasn't that tried in The Soviet Union? Worked for a while.

TDD

In article , Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I changed my mind from Atheist to Mormon when I felt the
Spirit of the Lord during the lessons. Also, the message the
missionaries taught me. Each new thing. I already knew it
some how, but not by hearing it on Earth.

Then I stand by my assertion that you were never an atheist. An atheist
would have laughed the LDS missionaries right out of the room, drunk --
er -- filled with the spirit of the lord or not.

BTW, "atheist" isn't capitalized. And top-posting is a sure way to end
up in hell for all eternity. You know, infinite punishment for finite
sins and all.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

Well, think what you want. It's no difference to me.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Frank Warner" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
Stormin Mormon
wrote:

I changed my mind from Atheist to Mormon when I felt the
Spirit of the Lord during the lessons. Also, the message
the
missionaries taught me. Each new thing. I already knew it
some how, but not by hearing it on Earth.

Then I stand by my assertion that you were never an atheist.
An atheist
would have laughed the LDS missionaries right out of the
room, drunk --
er -- filled with the spirit of the lord or not.

BTW, "atheist" isn't capitalized. And top-posting is a sure
way to end
up in hell for all eternity. You know, infinite punishment
for finite
sins and all.

-Frank

--
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/

On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:04:20 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I changed my mind from Atheist to Mormon when I felt the
Spirit of the Lord during the lessons.

In order for that to happen, you would have to ALREADY believe, in
order to interpret it that way.

Also, the message the
missionaries taught me.

So you believe garbage just because some idiot claims to?

Each new thing. I already knew it
some how, but not by hearing it on Earth.

There's only one such place accessible to a human being. That is your
imagination. There's nothing there that you didn't put there.

[snip improperly placed, improperly formatted, and irresponsible sig]
--
"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"

Well, you weren't there. And so you have no credibility to
tell me what went on, in my own mind. Sorry about that.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"NotX" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 19:04:20 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I changed my mind from Atheist to Mormon when I felt the
Spirit of the Lord during the lessons.

In order for that to happen, you would have to ALREADY
believe, in
order to interpret it that way.

Also, the message the
missionaries taught me.

So you believe garbage just because some idiot claims to?

Each new thing. I already knew it
some how, but not by hearing it on Earth.

There's only one such place accessible to a human being.
That is your
imagination. There's nothing there that you didn't put
there.

[snip improperly placed, improperly formatted, and
irresponsible sig]
--
"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"

NotX opined:
So you believe garbage just because some idiot claims to?

And Frank Warner added his two cents' worth:
An atheist would have laughed the LDS missionaries right
out of the room, drunk -- er -- filled with the spirit of the lord or not..

Ah, yes, insults: the last resort of those who know nothing about
which they speak. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd at
least be able to refute Stormin' Mormon's position based on facts, not
on your opinion.

Have you studied Christianity? (And Stormin' Mormon and I can have our
own separate debate about whether or not LDS is Christian.) Are you
familiar with the historical contexts of the sacred texts? Have you
read any of them in the original languages?

I also love how so many critics of faith cite example after example of
misdeeds, but neglect the far larger body of evidence of people whose
lives were changed for the better, of the sacrifices made to lift up
those who were downtrodden, of the sacrifices made. An estimated 20
million Christians were killed in the 20th century because of their
faith, but yeah, you want to say Christians are deluded or evil or
both.


On Jan 31, 12:28*am, Ashton Crusher wrote:
Yes, the truth will set you free. *And like the Easter bunny and Santa
Claus, there is no "god", no Jesus, none of it. *There's just us.
That's the truth.

No, that's not the truth, that's your opinion. Yes, there is no
scientific proof of the existence of God; nor is there any scientific
proof that God does not exist. Your statement is simply your belief,
and no matter how often you say it, it doesn't become Truth.

Your "truth" is either a lie, or ignorant: there is documented
historical evidence for the existence of a man from the Galilee region
of Palestine named Yeshua, who was executed by the Romans for
sedition, and whose followers claimed he rose from the dead which the
leaders at the time were not able to refute.

The lesson he don't try to fight knowledge with ignorance and
insults. You will lose.