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How to kill hornets - special situation
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The
structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. |
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I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a
door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. *Sevin* powder. |
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And how, given the situation can one get the spray into the area of the
nest?? On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:51:50 -0600, Tony Hwang wrote: wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. Hi, I'd use spray made to kill them. It works. |
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Does the powder neet to be sprayed on the nest? If so, I cannot do it
because I do not have access to the nest. It is inside the enclosed stair structure. On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:53:26 -0500, Bert Byfield wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. *Sevin* powder. |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:53:26 -0500, Bert Byfield
wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. *Sevin* powder. Or if you are in Texas, a bit of C4 |
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On Jun 24, 11:46*pm, wrote:
Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Got picture/s? I'm guessing a ground nest, under/behind the concrete. Those jobs can be a real bitch, w/o wooden steps. Generally speaking, if you can't get to them, you start thinking about sealing them in. You can try removing the wood, slowly and gently, at night. Hornets, IME, can be somewhat difficult to get to respond if you're not in their face. The entrance to the nest is probably some distance from the steps. I'm guessing there's a door right there, and they'll make plenty of noise giving you fair warning to get out of the way. ----- - gpsman |
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gpsman wrote:
On Jun 24, 11:46 pm, wrote: Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. Got picture/s? I'm guessing a ground nest, under/behind the concrete. Those jobs can be a real bitch, w/o wooden steps. Generally speaking, if you can't get to them, you start thinking about sealing them in. You can try removing the wood, slowly and gently, at night. Hornets, IME, can be somewhat difficult to get to respond if you're not in their face. The entrance to the nest is probably some distance from the steps. I'm guessing there's a door right there, and they'll make plenty of noise giving you fair warning to get out of the way. ----- - gpsman The supply houses for the trades sell wasp and hornet spray that will shoot a stream 20 feet. It works! Blast it through the cracks. http://tinyurl.com/kk7kq9 TDD |
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Thanks for a thoughtful reply. I believe the nest must be right under a
step because I do not believe there are any cracks in the concrete below the steps where they could get in. I will take pictures in the morning, place them on a web site, and post a reply here with a link. On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:17:13 -0700 (PDT), gpsman wrote: On Jun 24, 11:46*pm, wrote: Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Got picture/s? I'm guessing a ground nest, under/behind the concrete. Those jobs can be a real bitch, w/o wooden steps. Generally speaking, if you can't get to them, you start thinking about sealing them in. You can try removing the wood, slowly and gently, at night. Hornets, IME, can be somewhat difficult to get to respond if you're not in their face. The entrance to the nest is probably some distance from the steps. I'm guessing there's a door right there, and they'll make plenty of noise giving you fair warning to get out of the way. ----- - gpsman |
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Since I cannot direct the spray onto the nest, they will come out other
cracks and get me! On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:25:13 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote: gpsman wrote: On Jun 24, 11:46 pm, wrote: Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. Got picture/s? I'm guessing a ground nest, under/behind the concrete. Those jobs can be a real bitch, w/o wooden steps. Generally speaking, if you can't get to them, you start thinking about sealing them in. You can try removing the wood, slowly and gently, at night. Hornets, IME, can be somewhat difficult to get to respond if you're not in their face. The entrance to the nest is probably some distance from the steps. I'm guessing there's a door right there, and they'll make plenty of noise giving you fair warning to get out of the way. ----- - gpsman The supply houses for the trades sell wasp and hornet spray that will shoot a stream 20 feet. It works! Blast it through the cracks. http://tinyurl.com/kk7kq9 TDD |
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I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack Wait til after dark, so all the hornets are "home"... If you can get the spray into there , thru a crack(s) just use the can and let 'em have it with about half the can (stay "upwind)..then head inside. If you can't get the spray inside that way, slip the "tube" you mention into the crack. Use a can of Walgreens "Flying Insect" killer (not wasp spray) and shoot it thru the tube. Do it again the next night..etc til they're gone. I did this for a nest in a roof/soffit. It took 3-4 nights to get em all |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:25:13 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote: gpsman wrote: On Jun 24, 11:46 pm, wrote: Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. Got picture/s? I'm guessing a ground nest, under/behind the concrete. Those jobs can be a real bitch, w/o wooden steps. Generally speaking, if you can't get to them, you start thinking about sealing them in. You can try removing the wood, slowly and gently, at night. Hornets, IME, can be somewhat difficult to get to respond if you're not in their face. The entrance to the nest is probably some distance from the steps. I'm guessing there's a door right there, and they'll make plenty of noise giving you fair warning to get out of the way. ----- - gpsman The supply houses for the trades sell wasp and hornet spray that will shoot a stream 20 feet. It works! Blast it through the cracks. http://tinyurl.com/kk7kq9 TDD Since I cannot direct the spray onto the nest, they will come out other cracks and get me! I use the stuff all the time when those beasties are nesting in the cracks under eaves and such. It knocks them right out. As soon as they buzz out, they hit the ground. You can stand back ten to twenty feet away and hit them. TDD |
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wrote in message ... One cannot stand on the steps or even get too near them without being mass attacked as per the painful experience of two family members. I am afraid to drill a hole. At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. You got the ammonia in, now put the insecticide in the same way. Seems rather simple. Do it at night. |
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On Jun 24, 10:46*pm, wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. *The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. *I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. *It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Ive killed maybe 20 nests over the years with Ortho Seven, Usualy I pour power at daytime, throwing a plastic drop cloth ofer the area will contain the carnage.You might feel safer at night. Ive also had luck with Sevin liqued, When it dries is when I believe it works, its sold in a bottle you attach to a hose but the powder is more concentrate and effective. Fill a meat baster with sevin and squit in, then leave. Even at the entrance the powder is brought into the nest, it can take a few aplications if you dont get much in. |
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Bert Byfield wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. *Sevin* powder. Good choice. Dusts are usually recommended for insects that aren't accessible because the bugs contact the dust when they enter and leave the nest. One of the "long range" hornet/wasp sprays might also work, depending on how large the nest. Use after dark, when they are less active. I would avoid the area, including mowing grass nearby, until they are gone. |
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In article , wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.humor. best-of-usenet/browse_thread/thread/31053844a12578b2/98382ad748cbceb7 |
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In article 31, Bert Byfield wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. *Sevin* powder. And here's how to disperse it: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.humor. best-of-usenet/browse_thread/thread/31053844a12578b2/98382ad748cbceb7 |
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On Jun 24, 10:46*pm, wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. *The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. *I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. *It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Wait until night, then duct tape all the cracks except one small hole. Stick the nozzle of a spray can of insecticide in the small hole, start spraying, and beat on the steps. If they can't get out the spray will get them all. Red |
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Ken wrote:
wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. I almost hate to suggest the following, for I am sure I will be blasted. It may also not be appropriate for your location. If you can pour something into the hole, a small amount of gasoline will get rid of the hornets. I do not think it kills them so much as the smell drives them out. In my case I had a hole in the back yard and used a funnel and a couple ounces of gas. Sounds like a really, really bad idea. Not knowing structure or air-flow, it allows for collection of vapor and possible fire. There are good products, intended for the job and safe to use. |
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Thanks for a thoughtful reply. I believe the nest must be right
under a step because I do not believe there are any cracks in the concrete below the steps where they could get in. It's time to consider paying a pro to do the job. |
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I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. I recently saw a show about the folks who try to suppress invasive yellowjackets in Hawaii. They wear protective clothing when attacking the nests (in the ground) and the poison they spray into the opening to the nest is mint oil in part because they don't have to worry about being poisoned by it themselves. The trick is to make sure you get the queen so the nest is finished. It sounds like you have a tough situation because you can't get at the nest easily, maybe it's worth calling a pro since they're experienced at dealing with such situations. There is some useful info he http://gardening.yardener.com/Yarden...ithPestInsects |
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"DGDevin" wrote in message m... wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. I recently saw a show about the folks who try to suppress invasive yellowjackets in Hawaii. They wear protective clothing when attacking the nests (in the ground) and the poison they spray into the opening to the nest is mint oil in part because they don't have to worry about being poisoned by it themselves. The trick is to make sure you get the queen so the nest is finished. It sounds like you have a tough situation because you can't get at the nest easily, maybe it's worth calling a pro since they're experienced at dealing with such situations. There is some useful info he http://gardening.yardener.com/Yarden...ithPestInsects Interesting site, but I have to disagree with some of what they say: "Fact Number Two - Virtually every time a pest insect attacks a plant in your yard, that plant was in a state of stress BEFORE the insect arrived. Pest insects seldom bother healthy plants. So the best way to control pest insect problems is to find all the ways you can to have very healthy plants." Virtually every time? Control with healthy plants? That is a load of crap. There are healthy strong plants that are very tasty to certain insects and pests, and they will happily devour the plant if they can. Tomato Hornworms will happily and quickly devour your healthy tomatoes. Cucumber beetles will quickly eat baby cucumbers, squash, and beans. Although the risk of damage to the plants diminishes as they plants get bigger, they still feast on them. Mature healthy tomatillos and sunflowers are very tasty to cucumber beetles, and they will feast on them and breed in enormous numbers, guaranteeing a lot of hungry babys next spring when you are trying to get your little plants to grow big enough so that they can survive the feasting bugs. A couple of big fat Oregon slugs will make quick work of a healthy and happy eggplant plant. I know - I live in Oregon, and I've seen the damage a six inch slugs can do to my healthy eggplants in just one night. Insect pests love healthy plants They also fail to mention how much more aggressive yellow jackets are over paper wasps and other hornets. Paper wasps will build nests on your porch and you can walk by them and approach them as close as 12 inches or less and they will ignore you. I would not do that with a yellow jacket nest, as they are a lot more sensitive to people approaching the nest - they built a nest about six feet up in a tree above my pool last year, and I had to destroy them because no one could use the pool. I'll destroy any yellow jacket I see with extreme prejudice, but all paper wasps and other hornets are welcome to my yard and garden. Leave me alone, I leave you alone. Yellow jackets are not very good at leaving you alone if their nest is nearby. |
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Zootal wrote:
Interesting site, but I have to disagree with some of what they say: "Fact Number Two - Virtually every time a pest insect attacks a plant in your yard, that plant was in a state of stress BEFORE the insect arrived. Pest insects seldom bother healthy plants. So the best way to control pest insect problems is to find all the ways you can to have very healthy plants." Maybe they mean emotional stress. ;~) |
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:37:52 -0500, against all advice, something
compelled Ken , to say: If you can pour something into the hole, a small amount of gasoline will get rid of the hornets. I do not think it kills them so much as the smell drives them out. In my case I had a hole in the back yard and used a funnel and a couple ounces of gas. Ammonia and chlorine bleach make chlorine gas. Just sayin' . . . -- Don't worry about people stealing an idea. If it's original, you will have to ram it down their throats. - Howard Aiken |
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On Jun 25, 4:13*pm, Phisherman wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:25 -0400, wrote: Since I cannot direct the spray onto the nest, they will come out other cracks and get me! They won't if you wait after sundown, they don't fly in the dark. *The hornet spray kills on contact. Sevin dust doesnt make them angry at all. I have dusted it directly on them. Jimme |
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On Jun 24, 10:46*pm, wrote:
I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. *The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. *I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. *It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Seal up the whole stairway airtight with plastic sheeting. Now get about 5 or 6 aerosol "bug bomb" cans and gas them to death under the plastic by releasing the bug bombs under the sealed plastic. Leave the plastic in place for a few days so they are entrapped within the poison. Nothing will live through that. Make sure the plastic entirely seals the stairs by duct taping it to the house and slab, etc. Additionally you can pump hornet liguid with an atomizer (a paint sprayer) under the plastic, they gotta breath and eat all that poison some time. |
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"Phisherman" wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:25 -0400, wrote: Since I cannot direct the spray onto the nest, they will come out other cracks and get me! They won't if you wait after sundown, they don't fly in the dark. The hornet spray kills on contact. Be sure to get a good spray. There are some cheaper brands on the market that don't knock them down for 5-10 seconds, and that is plenty of time for them to nail you. Spectracide Pro will drop them instantly. Spectracide makes a cheaper spray that takes about five seconds to bring them down. When you have 100 mad yellow jackets coming at you, that will be the longest five seconds of your life! |
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On Jun 25, 4:10*pm, windcrest wrote:
On Jun 24, 10:46*pm, wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. *The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. *I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. *It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. *Thanks. Seal up the whole stairway airtight with plastic sheeting. *Now get about 5 or 6 aerosol "bug bomb" cans and gas them to death under the plastic by releasing the bug bombs under the sealed plastic. *Leave the plastic in place for a few days so they are entrapped within the poison. *Nothing will live through that. *Make sure the plastic entirely seals the stairs by duct taping it to the house and slab, etc. *Additionally you can pump hornet liguid with an atomizer (a paint sprayer) under the plastic, they gotta breath and eat all that poison some time. Use clear plastic that lets in light so they have a desire to exit their nest into the poison vapors. |
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Hipupchuck wrote:
wrote: I have a set of three wooden steps resting on concrete outside a door. The structure is completely enclosed, but with lots of cracks where hornets can get in and out. I am afraid to try to remove any of the boards to gain access. I can stick a tube into the interior through a crack At night, I tried pouring a small amount (all I happened to have) of ammonia through the tube into the interior yo see if the fumes would kill them or drive them out. It didn't happen. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks. Caulk all the cracks or use Great Stuff foam. And next spring, he'll be rebuilding the steps because the wood rotted out. Such structures are made to breathe for a reason. I'd just douse it every other evening, for a week or so, with one of the squirtgun spray cans from raid or whoever. If the holes are small, they don't fly in and out, they walk. Douse the entry points, and they will pick up enough of it. They also sell powder stuff, at Farm Bureau. I used it a couple years ago for a ground bee infestation. (Got tired of wearing long pants to mow, in 90 degree weather.) I presume there is something for hornets available. Just a few puffs every night at the entry points. If the steps are starting to show their age, I'd look at precast concrete ones to replace. They don't all scream 'trailer park' any more- some are actually pretty decent looking. -- aem sends... |
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