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Underperforming toilet.
The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl
will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? |
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On Jun 15, 8:36*pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. *When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. *After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. *If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. *This came on suddenly. *It looks like I have a partial clog. *The plumber's helper does not seem to help. *I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? Get good advice from maybe Ace Hardware and buy what they recommend snakewise. Option Two would be remove the toilet to work on it if the snake seems helpless. You Tube and other sources can guide you through a toilet remove and install, as folks in the NG have said many times, 'it isn't rocket science'. Having a straight shot down the waste pipe with the snake is far easier than getting it through all the twists and turns in the commode itself. Joe |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, Dan Listermann wrote:
The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? What you want is a closet auger. Best priced one I found. http://www.nextag.com/COBRA-ELECTRON...23/prices-html |
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...that's the reason I will never go back to gravity toilets, ever since I
installed a pressure-flush toilet. The pressure flush toilet has never clogged on us after 10 years using it, whereas our previous gravity toilet would clog once every few months. Huge difference. |
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RLM wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, Dan Listermann wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? What you want is a closet auger. Best priced one I found. http://www.nextag.com/COBRA-ELECTRON...23/prices-html Second the closet auger. Cheap, easy to use and effective. --Winston |
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"iwdplz" wrote in message ... ..that's the reason I will never go back to gravity toilets, ever since I installed a pressure-flush toilet. The pressure flush toilet has never clogged on us after 10 years using it, whereas our previous gravity toilet would clog once every few months. Huge difference. Talk to me about the pressure flush toilet. Is that where the water pressure pressurizes an accumulator? |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 8:36 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "Get good advice from maybe Ace Hardware and buy what they recommend snakewise. Option Two would be remove the toilet to work on it if the snake seems helpless. You Tube and other sources can guide you through a toilet remove and install, as folks in the NG have said many times, 'it isn't rocket science'. Having a straight shot down the waste pipe with the snake is far easier than getting it through all the twists and turns in the commode itself." I installed the toilet about two months ago. I would rather not have to do that again if I can avoid it. |
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. |
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On Jun 16, 12:03*pm, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. *When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. *After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. *If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. *This came on suddenly. *It looks like I have a partial clog. *The plumber's helper does not seem to help. *I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. One of the things that is commonly overlooked is the Jet at the bottomof the toilet. Not only does wwater come down from the rim, but it also comes out of the jet at the bottom of the bowl. The jet release forces water into the bottom channel which causes the whirlpool. Overtime, hard water buildup can clog the jet giving the symptoms that you mention. Clean the jet using a tootbrush, and this should solve your problem. RLZ |
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"rlz" wrote in message ... On Jun 16, 12:03 pm, Oren wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. "One of the things that is commonly overlooked is the Jet at the bottomof the toilet. Not only does wwater come down from the rim, but it also comes out of the jet at the bottom of the bowl. The jet release forces water into the bottom channel which causes the whirlpool. Overtime, hard water buildup can clog the jet giving the symptoms that you mention. Clean the jet using a tootbrush, and this should solve your problem." Interesting point! |
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:45:26 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
wrote: "rlz" wrote in message ... On Jun 16, 12:03 pm, Oren wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. "One of the things that is commonly overlooked is the Jet at the bottomof the toilet. Not only does wwater come down from the rim, but it also comes out of the jet at the bottom of the bowl. The jet release forces water into the bottom channel which causes the whirlpool. Overtime, hard water buildup can clog the jet giving the symptoms that you mention. Clean the jet using a tootbrush, and this should solve your problem." Interesting point! Fill a 5 gallon bucket with water, steadily pouring in the bowl. If it goes down then chances are the lines are not blocked, not a need to auger and remove the bowl. Clean the rim/bowl jets and the toilet should work fine and have the desired swirl. The acid method will do a good job. It really doesn't take 24 hours as mentioned in the link above. |
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"Dan Listermann"
Talk to me about the pressure flush toilet. Is that where the water pressure pressurizes an accumulator? They're pretty simple, the pressure tank is inside the toilet tank rather than having a float with flapper valve. They're sold in every hardware store and nothing fancy is required other than just a different type of toilet. The water pressure builds up inside the pressure tank and it is water efficient and produces a much more powerful flush. So instead of having to flush 5 times with a traditional toilet because the contents in the bowl overwhelm the weak gravity flush, you flush just once with a pressure toilet. So it saves water too. |
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"iwdplz" wrote in message ... "Dan Listermann" Talk to me about the pressure flush toilet. Is that where the water pressure pressurizes an accumulator? They're pretty simple, the pressure tank is inside the toilet tank rather than having a float with flapper valve. They're sold in every hardware store and nothing fancy is required other than just a different type of toilet. The water pressure builds up inside the pressure tank and it is water efficient and produces a much more powerful flush. So instead of having to flush 5 times with a traditional toilet because the contents in the bowl overwhelm the weak gravity flush, you flush just once with a pressure toilet. So it saves water too. So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. |
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"Dan Listermann" wrote in message
So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. That's correct as far as I understand because the bowl is a little different to accomodate the way that the water dynamic flows out differently. If there is some retrofit kit on the market it would be easier to just install a new toilet. I used to have an old style gravity toilet that was built prior to the water conservation efforts and it used several gallons per flush. Then 10 years ago I replaced it with a new gravity toilet and I was very disappointed with the weakness of the flush. I couldn't believe how weak it was in comparison. So I ended up throwing it away and replacing it with a pressure model. Since then I will never go back to a gravity unit, they are junk in my opinion because you can't do a decent flush with less than 2 gallons of water using gravity. |
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...also the reason we don't see pressure toilets in every house these days is
because they are noisier than the gravity toilets. But the extra noise is ok with me and I'd rather have that than messing around with stuck goop on a frequent basis. |
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"iwdplz" wrote: "Dan Listermann" wrote in message So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. That's correct as far as I understand because the bowl is a little different to accomodate the way that the water dynamic flows out differently. If there is some retrofit kit on the market it would be easier to just install a new toilet. I used to have an old style gravity toilet that was built prior to the water conservation efforts and it used several gallons per flush. Then 10 years ago I replaced it with a new gravity toilet and I was very disappointed with the weakness of the flush. I couldn't believe how weak it was in comparison. So I ended up throwing it away and replacing it with a pressure model. Since then I will never go back to a gravity unit, they are junk in my opinion because you can't do a decent flush with less than 2 gallons of water using gravity. Maybe you just bought a ****ty (intended) low-flow. When I bought mine, it's flush was far *more* powerful than the water hog it replaced. I've been extremely happy with it for 20 years. |
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"iwdplz" wrote in message ... "Dan Listermann" wrote in message So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. That's correct as far as I understand because the bowl is a little different to accomodate the way that the water dynamic flows out differently. If there is some retrofit kit on the market it would be easier to just install a new toilet. I used to have an old style gravity toilet that was built prior to the water conservation efforts and it used several gallons per flush. Then 10 years ago I replaced it with a new gravity toilet and I was very disappointed with the weakness of the flush. I couldn't believe how weak it was in comparison. So I ended up throwing it away and replacing it with a pressure model. Since then I will never go back to a gravity unit, they are junk in my opinion because you can't do a decent flush with less than 2 gallons of water using gravity. You can get a retrofit unit, but the camp is on a well and our pressure is probably not up to the requirements. |
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"iwdplz" wrote in message ... "Dan Listermann" wrote in message So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. That's correct as far as I understand because the bowl is a little different to accomodate the way that the water dynamic flows out differently. If there is some retrofit kit on the market it would be easier to just install a new toilet. I used to have an old style gravity toilet that was built prior to the water conservation efforts and it used several gallons per flush. Then 10 years ago I replaced it with a new gravity toilet and I was very disappointed with the weakness of the flush. I couldn't believe how weak it was in comparison. So I ended up throwing it away and replacing it with a pressure model. Since then I will never go back to a gravity unit, they are junk in my opinion because you can't do a decent flush with less than 2 gallons of water using gravity. I raised the tank's level and it now forms the whirlpool, but the bowl may not clear. I figure that the jets are clogged (suggestions about how to clean them) or the drain is constricted. |
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On Jun 17, 11:46�am, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
"iwdplz" wrote in message ... "Dan Listermann" wrote in message So this is a special toilet, not something that can be retrofitted. That's correct as far as I understand because the bowl is a little different to accomodate the way that the water dynamic flows out differently. �If there is some retrofit kit on the market it would be easier to just install a new toilet. I used to have an old style gravity toilet that was built prior to the water conservation efforts and it used several gallons per flush. �Then 10 years ago I replaced it with a new gravity toilet and I was very disappointed with the weakness of the flush. �I couldn't believe how weak it was in comparison. �So I ended up throwing it away and replacing it with a pressure model. �Since then I will never go back to a gravity unit, they are junk in my opinion because you can't do a decent flush with less than 2 gallons of water using gravity. I raised the tank's level and it now forms the whirlpool, but the bowl may not clear. �I figure that the jets are clogged (suggestions about how to clean them) or the drain is constricted.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - if it flushes solids normally with a bucket of water the interior passages are clogged, its time for acid |
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"Oren" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:45:26 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "rlz" wrote in message ... On Jun 16, 12:03 pm, Oren wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. "One of the things that is commonly overlooked is the Jet at the bottomof the toilet. Not only does wwater come down from the rim, but it also comes out of the jet at the bottom of the bowl. The jet release forces water into the bottom channel which causes the whirlpool. Overtime, hard water buildup can clog the jet giving the symptoms that you mention. Clean the jet using a tootbrush, and this should solve your problem." Interesting point! Fill a 5 gallon bucket with water, steadily pouring in the bowl. If it goes down then chances are the lines are not blocked, not a need to auger and remove the bowl. Clean the rim/bowl jets and the toilet should work fine and have the desired swirl. The acid method will do a good job. It really doesn't take 24 hours as mentioned in the link above. Raising the tank's level seemed to do the trick, but this morning, under load, it did not finish the flush. Last night I used an auger, but it did not seem to help. Does anybody have any suggestions about cleaning out the jets. I am thinking a set of Allen wrenches might work. |
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Bent coat hanger?
I read some where about a guy who poured muriatic acid in the overflow tube, and it came out the jets. The acid loosened the calcium scale. They make toilet cleaner bottles with a squirt up nozzle, I don't know if any of them dispense acid to loosen the calcium. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Dan Listermann" wrote in message ... Raising the tank's level seemed to do the trick, but this morning, under load, it did not finish the flush. Last night I used an auger, but it did not seem to help. Does anybody have any suggestions about cleaning out the jets. I am thinking a set of Allen wrenches might work. |
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On Jun 19, 10:45�am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Bent coat hanger? I read some where about a guy who poured muriatic acid in the overflow tube, and it came out the jets. The acid loosened the calcium scale. They make toilet cleaner bottles with a squirt up nozzle, I don't know if any of them dispense acid to loosen the calcium. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus �www.lds.org . "Dan Listermann" wrote in message ... Raising the tank's level seemed to do the trick, but this morning, under load, it did not finish the flush. �Last night I used an auger, but it did not seem to help. Does anybody have any suggestions about cleaning out the jets. �I am thinking a set of Allen wrenches might work. I am the muriatic acid guy it works great asa others here have reported. Acid is safe if used with a little care, it dissolves thew sediment that builds up in the bowl rim passages |
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:02:09 -0400, "Dan Listermann"
wrote: "Oren" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:45:26 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "rlz" wrote in message ... On Jun 16, 12:03 pm, Oren wrote: On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:35 -0400, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. When flushed, the bowl will rise, but the whirlpool will not form. After a few minutes, the water level will fall but the bowl is never flushed. If I manually cause the tank to fill to a higher level than normal and then hold the flapper open for the tank to fully drain, the whirlpool does form and the bowl clears. This came on suddenly. It looks like I have a partial clog. The plumber's helper does not seem to help. I suspect female trouble. Will the kind of snake used for sinks and such work in a toilet or do I have to buy one of the special ones for toilets? "The Lazy Flush"* http://www.toiletology.com/lazy-03.shtml Muriatic Acid has been discussed here before AND it works. Follow safety precautions. "One of the things that is commonly overlooked is the Jet at the bottomof the toilet. Not only does wwater come down from the rim, but it also comes out of the jet at the bottom of the bowl. The jet release forces water into the bottom channel which causes the whirlpool. Overtime, hard water buildup can clog the jet giving the symptoms that you mention. Clean the jet using a tootbrush, and this should solve your problem." Interesting point! Fill a 5 gallon bucket with water, steadily pouring in the bowl. If it goes down then chances are the lines are not blocked, not a need to auger and remove the bowl. Clean the rim/bowl jets and the toilet should work fine and have the desired swirl. The acid method will do a good job. It really doesn't take 24 hours as mentioned in the link above. Raising the tank's level seemed to do the trick, but this morning, under load, it did not finish the flush. Last night I used an auger, but it did not seem to help. Does anybody have any suggestions about cleaning out the jets. I am thinking a set of Allen wrenches might work. Did you read the link above? I'm curious! Otherwise, use Allen wrenches if you want to. How will you get the sediment out that is horizontal along the rim, between passages? |
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:02:58 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote: I am the muriatic acid guy it works great asa others here have reported. Be careful Bob. The was also Acid Man the Mafia gangster. |
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In a world where so many things don't work. It sure is kind
of you to share something that does work. Thank you. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "bob haller" wrote in message ... I am the muriatic acid guy it works great asa others here have reported. Acid is safe if used with a little care, it dissolves thew sediment that builds up in the bowl rim passages |
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On Jun 15, 8:36*pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip All this hue and cry about the toilet makes me wonder if the downstream plumbing is up to code. For example, this being a 'camp' does the system actually have a genuine vent of 3" or better tied into the toilet discharge line? And if there is one, is it open? Free of bird nests, whatever? Worth checking, I would think. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 15, 8:36 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip All this hue and cry about the toilet makes me wonder if the downstream plumbing is up to code. For example, this being a 'camp' does the system actually have a genuine vent of 3" or better tied into the toilet discharge line? And if there is one, is it open? Free of bird nests, whatever? Worth checking, I would think. There is no real vent for the toilet, but I can't see that preventing a good flush. The line is vented with a 1.5" vent that is away from the toilet line. As a test, I could open two ports that I use to dump the RV. They will vent the septic tank. |
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On Jun 19, 9:52*pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. *snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! Joe |
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On Jun 20, 10:15�am, Joe wrote:
On Jun 19, 9:52�pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. �snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! Joe not necessarily....... I had a unvented toilet that flushed fine, but occasionaly the toilet would go dry, the water in the trap would get sucked out |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 19, 9:52 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! The "vent" was the problem. I found that I could turn the problem on and off by opening a port that I use to drain the RV. It seems that the septic system is fairly tight and the toilet needs to "burp" to form the siphon. The "venting" is supposed to be through the kitchen's drain line but it had a sag in it and evidently plugged. I got the line level and am using enzyme stuff to try to clear the sediment; a plumber's snake with a hose did not work. If this still does not perform, I guess I will have to rig a better vent. Thanks for your help! |
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On Jun 22, 9:08*am, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 19, 9:52 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! The "vent" was the problem. *I found that I could turn the problem on and off by opening a port that I use to drain the RV. *It seems that the septic system is fairly tight and the toilet needs to "burp" to form the siphon. The "venting" is supposed to be through the kitchen's drain line but it had a sag in it and evidently plugged. *I got the line level and am using enzyme stuff to try to clear the sediment; a plumber's snake with a hose did not work. *If this still does not perform, I guess I will have to rig a better vent. *Thanks for your help! Speaking for all who made suggestions, "You're welcome" Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 22, 9:08 am, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 19, 9:52 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! The "vent" was the problem. I found that I could turn the problem on and off by opening a port that I use to drain the RV. It seems that the septic system is fairly tight and the toilet needs to "burp" to form the siphon. The "venting" is supposed to be through the kitchen's drain line but it had a sag in it and evidently plugged. I got the line level and am using enzyme stuff to try to clear the sediment; a plumber's snake with a hose did not work. If this still does not perform, I guess I will have to rig a better vent. Thanks for your help! "Speaking for all who made suggestions, "You're welcome" It is increasingly clear that I will need to make a vent near the toilet. Any advice about putting a stack through a rolled roof? |
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Underperforming toilet.
On Jun 23, 9:55�am, "Dan Listermann" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 22, 9:08 am, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message .... On Jun 19, 9:52 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! The "vent" was the problem. I found that I could turn the problem on and off by opening a port that I use to drain the RV. It seems that the septic system is fairly tight and the toilet needs to "burp" to form the siphon. |
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Underperforming toilet.
"bob haller" wrote in message ... On Jun 23, 9:55?am, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 22, 9:08 am, "Dan Listermann" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ... On Jun 19, 9:52 pm, "Dan Listermann" wrote: snip The toilet at our camp is not flushing properly. snip There is no real vent for the toilet, snip Bingo! The "vent" was the problem. I found that I could turn the problem on and off by opening a port that I use to drain the RV. It seems that the septic system is fairly tight and the toilet needs to "burp" to form the siphon. The "venting" is supposed to be through the kitchen's drain line but it had a sag in it and evidently plugged. I got the line level and am using enzyme stuff to try to clear the sediment; a plumber's snake with a hose did not work. If this still does not perform, I guess I will have to rig a better vent. Thanks for your help! "Speaking for all who made suggestions, "You're welcome" It is increasingly clear that I will need to make a vent near the toilet. Any advice about putting a stack through a rolled roof?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - how about a indoor vent? what are they called? It has to burp out. As far as I know, all indoor vents go in. |
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