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How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold
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On Sep 30, 12:10 am, jazz wrote:
How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I pay yearly for my boiler to be serviced every year, I was told it makes it much more efficient and pays for itself by cutting down on fuel usage. I also wonder if it would be more economical to get a service contract. |
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On Sep 30, 12:10*am, jazz wrote:
How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks Heard an HVAC guy say that oil furnaces should be serviced annually but it is OK to go a few years with gas. |
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On Sep 29, 11:10*pm, jazz wrote:
How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks AC and oil yearly, gas every few years unless the flame is not blue. What gets overlooked is the AC coil inside, often it is sealed up but mold and dirt will affect heating performance by reducing airflow. Poor fitting air filters or cheap and neglected filters allow dirt to pass through clogging things up |
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jazz wrote:
How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Jones http://www.MoeJones.info |
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On Sep 30, 7:44*am, "Moe Jones" wrote:
jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. |
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ransley wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Not only cracked heat exchanger but what about gas leaks, electrical problems, bearings, over all condition of the furnace. In my years of working on them you would be surprised in finding problems after only one year. I have seen people stack cardboard box right up to the furnace and by the time I got there the boxes had started in discoloring due to the heat plus allot of the times you can find a small problem that can easily be repaired before it turned into a large problem. If you can check the flame condition them most likely you would not need a service tech. but if you do not know about what your furnace and what to look like then do not take a chance in letting your furnace go for a number of years. -- Moe Jones http://www.MoeJones.info |
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On Sep 30, 12:47*am, Joe wrote:
On Sep 30, 12:10 am, jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I pay yearly for my boiler to be serviced every year, I was told it makes it much more efficient and pays for itself by cutting down on fuel usage. I also wonder if it would be more economical to get a service contract. In my area, you can't get a service call unless you have a service contract. found that out the hard way one night when my igniter failed. Hadn't been in the house long enough to have stashed away a spare, had to stay up most of the night moving around space heaters to keep everything from freezing until the stores opened in the AM. In retrospect, I wonder if I'd cranked the thermostat up to 85 degrees or something and then ran down real fast and lit the burners with a fireplace match if that would have allowed me to heat the house up enough to get a couple hours sleep before it cooled down enough to force me to relight it, but I'd probably have blown myself up... nate |
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On Sep 30, 2:54*pm, "Moe Jones" wrote:
ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Not only cracked heat exchanger but what about gas leaks, electrical problems, bearings, over all condition of the furnace. In my years of working on them you would be surprised in finding problems after only one year. I have seen people stack cardboard box right up to the furnace and by the time I got there the boxes had started in discoloring due to the heat plus allot of the times you can find a small problem that can easily be repaired before it turned into a large problem. If you can check the flame condition them most likely you would not need a service tech. but if you do not know about what your furnace and what to look like then do not take a chance in letting your furnace go for a number of years. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Hi, What is your opinion on AC ( use it only for 4 weeks out of a year) and Gas fireplace. How often should they be maintained. THanks |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT), ransley
wrote: Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Then I guess I just wasted my money buying a combustion analyzer, co meter, vom, magnahelic, manometer, and assorted handtools. You're a ****ing moron. |
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ransley wrote:
On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Hi, How about making sure it runs at peak efficiency? I guess you don't/won't do anything about your car either as long as it runs? |
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On Sep 30, 10:22*pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Hi, How about making sure it runs at peak efficiency? I guess you don't/won't do anything about your car either as long as it runs?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - For my Lennox with a 4" media filter and being able to see the flame I dont need yearly maintenance, my installer and neighbor installer told me this, and i have found it true. If you dont know anything about equipment, use a cheap filter system or have a old unit you can benefit as many folks dont know or do any maintenance, I have a staem boiler checked ever year but not my HW boiler or furnace, as I said If you have a good air filter that is maintained and can see the flames condition, and the unit is not real old yearly inspection I find usualy ends up a waste of money, the AC and coil I do believe yearly maintenance is required. Bubba wants everyone to believe that a furnace with AC needs 2 inspections yearly, You can do it all usualy with your AC check on a furnace. |
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On Sep 30, 10:15*pm, Old AC Guy wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT), ransley wrote: Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Then I guess I just wasted my money buying a *combustion analyzer, co meter, vom, magnahelic, manometer, and assorted handtools. You're a ****ing moron. Yea and tell me the last customer you used a mamometer, magnahelic, on his "yearly checkup" Yr a ****ing crook. Or you would be charging 300+ for a "tune up" and no sucker would bite. |
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On Sep 30, 6:48*am, Bubba wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:28:13 -0700 (PDT), Frank wrote: On Sep 30, 12:10*am, jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks Heard an HVAC guy say that oil furnaces should be serviced annually but it is OK to go a few years with gas. Nope. Wrong. It all gets serviced annually. Read your installation/service manual. Most are not even recommending and requiring that they be serviced annually to keep your warranty in effect. Its all in print. Read it for yourself. Bubba Oh and Bubbaass mr greenteeth, My Lennox Installer- Dealer said Yearly Maintenance is NOT REQUIRED. Go back to the hole alt.hvachackingisawayoflifeweknow****.com |
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On Sep 30, 3:53*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT), ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44*am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both.. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. You're still a friggin idiot Ransley. You still dont understand the operation of fueled combustion. I can put a furnace in your home with a hole in the heat exchanger big enough to put your fat head through and I can still make it burn with no CO. Then one cold night while you are asleep, the conditions are just right (temp, humidity, etc) and all of a sudden the unit produces enough CO to kill you in only a very short time You really are a dangerous idiot. Again I'll quote. Read your owners manual. Almost all will tell you to have yearly maintenance and it can affect your warranty. I really dont think all those manufacturers are putting that in print because they feel sorry for us hvac guys and want us to line our pockets with tune up money. Tune ups themselves are NOT money makers. Take your tin-foil hat off Ransley. Its affecting your brain waves beamed in from Mars. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is that what you do Bubba, business is that bad you have to Bull**** and LIE to all your customers their warranty is at risk, unless they have you out every heat season turn on for a fee. Are you calling my authorised AO Smith, Weil McLain and Lennox installers - dealers incompetants, and that they putting me at risk. |
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On Oct 1, 12:29*pm, ransley wrote:
On Sep 30, 3:53*pm, Bubba wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT), ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44*am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate.. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. You're still a friggin idiot Ransley. You still dont understand the operation of fueled combustion. I can put a furnace in your home with a hole in the heat exchanger big enough to put your fat head through and I can still make it burn with no CO. Then one cold night while you are asleep, the conditions are just right (temp, humidity, etc) and all of a sudden the unit produces enough CO to kill you in only a very short time You really are a dangerous idiot. Again I'll quote. Read your owners manual. Almost all will tell you to have yearly maintenance and it can affect your warranty. I really dont think all those manufacturers are putting that in print because they feel sorry for us hvac guys and want us to line our pockets with tune up money. Tune ups themselves are NOT money makers. Take your tin-foil hat off Ransley. Its affecting your brain waves beamed in from Mars. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is that what you do Bubba, business is that bad you have to Bull**** and LIE to all your customers their warranty is at risk, unless they have you out every heat season turn on for a fee. Are you calling my authorised AO Smith, Weil McLain and Lennox installers - dealers incompetants, and that they putting me at risk. BTW_ my mother was told she needs yearly maintenace on her gas fireplace. I started to investigate and found that many people never get one done. What is the deal with this-? I live in apt and don't know anything about this stuff. Is she getting ripped off ? Thanks for all your comments. |
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jazz wrote:
On Sep 30, 2:54 pm, "Moe Jones" wrote: ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Not only cracked heat exchanger but what about gas leaks, electrical problems, bearings, over all condition of the furnace. In my years of working on them you would be surprised in finding problems after only one year. I have seen people stack cardboard box right up to the furnace and by the time I got there the boxes had started in discoloring due to the heat plus allot of the times you can find a small problem that can easily be repaired before it turned into a large problem. If you can check the flame condition them most likely you would not need a service tech. but if you do not know about what your furnace and what to look like then do not take a chance in letting your furnace go for a number of years. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Hi, What is your opinion on AC ( use it only for 4 weeks out of a year) and Gas fireplace. How often should they be maintained. THanks On your A/C I would recommend that you also have it checked once a year but a way to save some money is have the service tech. show you what to look for on your system. Now I know you will not have the gages and such but you can tell alot about your system by touching the suction and liquid line and just opening the control panel and looking inside. -- Moe Jones http://www.MoeJones.info |
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On Oct 2, 11:55*am, "Moe Jones" wrote:
jazz wrote: On Sep 30, 2:54 pm, "Moe Jones" wrote: ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44 am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. Not only cracked heat exchanger but what about gas leaks, electrical problems, bearings, over all condition of the furnace. In my years of working on them you would be surprised in finding problems after only one year. I have seen people stack cardboard box right up to the furnace and by the time I got there the boxes had started in discoloring due to the heat plus allot of the times you can find a small problem that can easily be repaired before it turned into a large problem. If you can check the flame condition them most likely you would not need a service tech. but if you do not know about what your furnace and what to look like then do not take a chance in letting your furnace go for a number of years. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Hi, What is your opinion on AC ( use it only for 4 weeks out of a year) and Gas fireplace. How often should they be maintained. THanks On your A/C I would recommend that you also have it checked once a year but a way to save some money is have the service tech. show you what to look for on your system. Now I know you will not have the gages and such but you can tell alot about your system by touching the suction and liquid line and just opening the control panel and looking inside. -- Moe Jones http://www.MoeJones.info Thanks - that is good way to approach it. |
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On Oct 1, 6:21*pm, Bubba wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:23:56 -0700 (PDT), ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 3:53*pm, Bubba wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT), ransley wrote: On Sep 30, 7:44*am, "Moe Jones" wrote: jazz wrote: How often do you get your *furnace / AC maintained. I live in cold climate with 2-3 months of hot. *I was recommended yearly for both. Are the extended *service plans worth the extra cost. Thanks I am retired from the business and you should have any A/C and Heating system check before you use them to make sure all is safe to operate. When it comes to a extended service plan all I can say if you trust your A/C & Heating company, the plan is good for you and for them but if you do not trust the company then it can bite you on the butt. I would use them on some simple jobs and then see if they were fair and honest to you. -- Moe Joneshttp://www.MoeJones.info Safe? If the furnace runs and you have a Co detector what is unsafe. Yearly maintenance on a Ng furnace is a waste of money if you can check filters and flame condition. You're still a friggin idiot Ransley. You still dont understand the operation of fueled combustion. I can put a furnace in your home with a hole in the heat exchanger big enough to put your fat head through and I can still make it burn with no CO. Then one cold night while you are asleep, the conditions are just right (temp, humidity, etc) and all of a sudden the unit produces enough CO to kill you in only a very short time You really are a dangerous idiot. Again I'll quote. Read your owners manual. Almost all will tell you to have yearly maintenance and it can affect your warranty. I really dont think all those manufacturers are putting that in print because they feel sorry for us hvac guys and want us to line our pockets with tune up money. Tune ups themselves are NOT money makers. Take your tin-foil hat off Ransley. Its affecting your brain waves beamed in from Mars. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So you say you can put in a furnace in a home with a big hole in the exchanger, what kind of crooked hack are you, and tell us all how a Co detector wont detect the leak, that would be interesting to know HOW you can hide defective units. Tune ups are bull **** as to needing to be done every year, as I said for Ng furnaces IF your air filter keeps out dirt. Or keep dreamin and lying to yourself and clients to justify your lack of business Ok Ranting Ransley. Im going to show you and everyone in here AGAIN how ****ing stupid you are. First off, the furnace with the hole would be the one I would install in YOUR home as I would stick YOUR head in the hole to show you how big the hole in the heat exchanger actually is. Then I would show you how my professional Bacharach Carbon Monoxide detector reads nearly 0ppm (parts per million) of CO while it is running. Yes thats right. A hole in a heat exchanger does NOT mean it will produce CO. CO is produced by unburned or poorly burned fuel. A hole in a heat exchanger does NOT always burn poorly but its a good bet that it will at sometime. I dont know where you came up with the idea that a CO detector will show or detect a leak, crack or hole in a heat exchanger. IT DOES NOT! As far as the air filter, it keeps the air clean. It helps protect the blower motor, blower wheel, any primary or secondary heat exchanger and inlet side of the cooling coil. The air filter does NOT do **** for the way a burner of any type works in a furnace. Its the same reason a car needs a new fuel filter, pcv, spark plugs etc. The burner has to be checked and tuned each year to make sure all is well and nothing has changed from the prior year. Now here is the best dumb ass. You want to see why a system needs to be maintained professionally each year? Check out this link to Tempstar and read the 5th paragraph labeled "Protecting your Warranty". Pay particular attention to the 3rd word "REQUIRED" *in that paragraph.http://www.tempstar.com/t-warranty.html And finally you dip**** retard Ransley............Id suggest if you want to match words you might want to pick on something you actually know something about and dont try it with a professional in the hvac field such as myself. YES, you can now "BITE ME" you asswipe. Bubba- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I bet you would install a defect anywhere, do you contact all you installs telling them their warranty is in jepordy if they dont have you out for 100$ cleaning. You are the kind of guy that might just put a hole in a furnace to make a sale. |
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