"NSN" wrote in message
...
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm


This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully, cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

Cheri

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From hallerb


"muriatic acid placed carefully will clean out the interior passages of
the toilet 20 minutes and 10 bucks if you need saftety glasses.

safe effective fast and cheap. works amazingly well as another poster
reported here, I am the one who told him about it

when you flush the toilet actually creates a wave that moves the waste
solids into the large bottom drain & trap.

but you must have enough flow to start the wave, over time sediment
builds up in the interior water passages bowl rim ald slows the flow of
fresh water. at some point stuff just swirls around....

watch under the bowl rim, often gunk built up clogging the exit holes.

you can use a coathanger end to open the holes some but the sediment
still fills the bowl rim and cant be reached.

Directions:

put on safety glasses, plunge drain bowl water, sponge is good idea
so bowl is completely empty tank water can remain as is.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel. and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.

then return and flush about 15 times to dilute all remaing acid. you
will see brown goo, thats the melted sediment.

this really works, and can be repeated if need be."
..

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:43:26 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatlodinetdotcom
wrote:

"NSN" wrote in message
.. .
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm


This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully, cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

Cheri

==================
From hallerb


"muriatic acid placed carefully will clean out the interior passages of
the toilet 20 minutes and 10 bucks if you need saftety glasses.

safe effective fast and cheap. works amazingly well as another poster
reported here, I am the one who told him about it

when you flush the toilet actually creates a wave that moves the waste
solids into the large bottom drain & trap.

but you must have enough flow to start the wave, over time sediment
builds up in the interior water passages bowl rim ald slows the flow of
fresh water. at some point stuff just swirls around....

watch under the bowl rim, often gunk built up clogging the exit holes.

you can use a coathanger end to open the holes some but the sediment
still fills the bowl rim and cant be reached.

Directions:

put on safety glasses, plunge drain bowl water, sponge is good idea
so bowl is completely empty tank water can remain as is.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel. and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.

then return and flush about 15 times to dilute all remaing acid. you
will see brown goo, thats the melted sediment.

this really works, and can be repeated if need be."
.



Ouch! Muriatic acid on porecelein?!!! The acid will etch the toilet,
causing more friction and more cleaning, who needs that? Other than
that, muriatic acid is a safety issue.

"Phisherman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:43:26 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatlodinetdotcom
wrote:

"NSN" wrote in message
. ..
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm


This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully, cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

Cheri

==================
From hallerb


"muriatic acid placed carefully will clean out the interior passages of
the toilet 20 minutes and 10 bucks if you need saftety glasses.

safe effective fast and cheap. works amazingly well as another poster
reported here, I am the one who told him about it

when you flush the toilet actually creates a wave that moves the waste
solids into the large bottom drain & trap.

but you must have enough flow to start the wave, over time sediment
builds up in the interior water passages bowl rim ald slows the flow of
fresh water. at some point stuff just swirls around....

watch under the bowl rim, often gunk built up clogging the exit holes.

you can use a coathanger end to open the holes some but the sediment
still fills the bowl rim and cant be reached.

Directions:

put on safety glasses, plunge drain bowl water, sponge is good idea
so bowl is completely empty tank water can remain as is.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel.
and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.

then return and flush about 15 times to dilute all remaing acid. you
will see brown goo, thats the melted sediment.

this really works, and can be repeated if need be."
.



Ouch! Muriatic acid on porecelein?!!! The acid will etch the toilet,
causing more friction and more cleaning, who needs that? Other than
that, muriatic acid is a safety issue.

No, it does not etch the porcelain, and it's not a safety issue either. I
have done it twice in the past three years, and the only thing that happens
is that your toilet flushes like it's supposed to, and you have a sparkling
clean toilet.


Cheri

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:10:39 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatlodinetdotcom
wrote:

"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:43:26 -0700, "Cheri" gserviceatlodinetdotcom
wrote:

"NSN" wrote in message
...
My wife's toilet is a bit sluggish requiring the occasional use of a
plunger. It is an American Standard, 20 years old. Could someone point
me to a "how to" article on this subject or offer suggestions. I am
hoping that a Drano like product can be used.

Thanks in advance.

Norm


This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully, cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

Cheri

==================
From hallerb


"muriatic acid placed carefully will clean out the interior passages of
the toilet 20 minutes and 10 bucks if you need saftety glasses.

safe effective fast and cheap. works amazingly well as another poster
reported here, I am the one who told him about it

when you flush the toilet actually creates a wave that moves the waste
solids into the large bottom drain & trap.

but you must have enough flow to start the wave, over time sediment
builds up in the interior water passages bowl rim ald slows the flow of
fresh water. at some point stuff just swirls around....

watch under the bowl rim, often gunk built up clogging the exit holes.

you can use a coathanger end to open the holes some but the sediment
still fills the bowl rim and cant be reached.

Directions:

put on safety glasses, plunge drain bowl water, sponge is good idea
so bowl is completely empty tank water can remain as is.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel.
and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.

then return and flush about 15 times to dilute all remaing acid. you
will see brown goo, thats the melted sediment.

this really works, and can be repeated if need be."
.



Ouch! Muriatic acid on porecelein?!!! The acid will etch the toilet,
causing more friction and more cleaning, who needs that? Other than
that, muriatic acid is a safety issue.

No, it does not etch the porcelain, and it's not a safety issue either. I
have done it twice in the past three years, and the only thing that happens
is that your toilet flushes like it's supposed to, and you have a sparkling
clean toilet.


Cheri


I've followed this advice, and it works without adverse effect on the
bowl. I shorten the time as the acid works fast.

Cheri wrote:
"NSN" wrote in message
This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully, cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel. and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.


"Put funnel in dip tube"? What's the dip tube?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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Cheri wrote:
"NSN" wrote in message
This came from hallerb a regular in the group. It works wonderfully,
cheap
and easy. I think you will be amazed with the results, I was.

put funnel in dip tube top pour a cup or two of muratic acid in funnel.
and
some in bowl no splashing, and have window open and take deep breath
first, then leave room shut door wait at least 15 minutes.


"Put funnel in dip tube"? What's the dip tube?

In the tank, where the little tube that returns the water is connected. It
would be the only place that a funnel would fit, so it's easily identified.
:-)

Cheri