Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break it free
from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't turn as smoothly as
it should. When I turn the disposal on it makes a lot of noise, runs for
about 5 seconds and then the breaker trips.
This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the desert and does not get
a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years old. Any
helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.
CP

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:54:02p, Steve told us...

"CP" wrote in
:

Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break it
free from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't turn as
smoothly as it should. When I turn the disposal on it makes a lot of
noise, runs for about 5 seconds and then the breaker trips.
This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the desert and does
not get a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years old.
Any helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Garbage disposals are cheap. Replace it. Unless you enjoy repairing
stuff,
you'll waste more time looking at it than it's worth.

For the best bang for the buck, replace it with a standard drain. Most
people don't get much use from a disposal.

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one, where we
are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one with septic.
We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm already sick of plate
scrapings, peelings, and other food waste instead of a quick swish down the
disposal.

I know that In-Sink-Erator makes a model specifically for use with septic
systems that injects an enzyme solution each time the dispsal is used, but
I'm still skeptical of its effectiveness.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Sunday, 05(V)/04(IV)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
3wks 4hrs 40mins
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Sex is nobody's business except for
the three people involved.
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Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:54:02p, Steve told us...

"CP" wrote in
:

Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break it
free from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't turn
as smoothly as it should. When I turn the disposal on it makes a lot
of noise, runs for about 5 seconds and then the breaker trips.
This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the desert and does
not get a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years old.
Any helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Garbage disposals are cheap. Replace it. Unless you enjoy repairing
stuff,
you'll waste more time looking at it than it's worth.

For the best bang for the buck, replace it with a standard drain.
Most people don't get much use from a disposal.

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one,
where we are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one
with septic. We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm already
sick of plate scrapings, peelings, and other food waste instead of a
quick swish down the disposal.

I know that In-Sink-Erator makes a model specifically for use with
septic systems that injects an enzyme solution each time the dispsal
is used, but I'm still skeptical of its effectiveness.


I had one for 14 yrs in a new home I had built. Never had a problem and
had septic pumped like every 3-4 yrs. Never any issues with tank or
lines. Inlets and outlets always normal.

The rules were always followed. All grease gets poured off into cans. No
paint, chemicals and other crap down the drain. Liquid detergents only.

On Sun 04 May 2008 08:21:02p, Red Green told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:54:02p, Steve told us...

"CP" wrote in
:

Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break it
free from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't turn
as smoothly as it should. When I turn the disposal on it makes a lot
of noise, runs for about 5 seconds and then the breaker trips.
This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the desert and does
not get a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years old.
Any helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Garbage disposals are cheap. Replace it. Unless you enjoy repairing
stuff, you'll waste more time looking at it than it's worth.

For the best bang for the buck, replace it with a standard drain.
Most people don't get much use from a disposal.

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one,
where we are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one
with septic. We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm already
sick of plate scrapings, peelings, and other food waste instead of a
quick swish down the disposal.

I know that In-Sink-Erator makes a model specifically for use with
septic systems that injects an enzyme solution each time the dispsal
is used, but I'm still skeptical of its effectiveness.


I had one for 14 yrs in a new home I had built. Never had a problem and
had septic pumped like every 3-4 yrs. Never any issues with tank or
lines. Inlets and outlets always normal.

The rules were always followed. All grease gets poured off into cans. No
paint, chemicals and other crap down the drain. Liquid detergents only.


Thanks, that's very helpful! I'm going to take a second look.

Can you give me an idea what the cost might be for having the tank pumped?
We haven't been here long enough to do that. We have a 1000 gallon tank.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Sunday, 05(V)/04(IV)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
3wks 3hrs 25mins
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Gun Control: Keep muzzle pointed at target.
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Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 08:21:02p, Red Green told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:54:02p, Steve told us...

"CP" wrote in
:

Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break
it free from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't
turn as smoothly as it should. When I turn the disposal on it
makes a lot of noise, runs for about 5 seconds and then the
breaker trips. This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the
desert and does not get a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years
old. Any helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Garbage disposals are cheap. Replace it. Unless you enjoy repairing
stuff, you'll waste more time looking at it than it's worth.

For the best bang for the buck, replace it with a standard drain.
Most people don't get much use from a disposal.

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a
disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one,
where we are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one
with septic. We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm
already sick of plate scrapings, peelings, and other food waste
instead of a quick swish down the disposal.

I know that In-Sink-Erator makes a model specifically for use with
septic systems that injects an enzyme solution each time the dispsal
is used, but I'm still skeptical of its effectiveness.


I had one for 14 yrs in a new home I had built. Never had a problem
and had septic pumped like every 3-4 yrs. Never any issues with tank
or lines. Inlets and outlets always normal.

The rules were always followed. All grease gets poured off into cans.
No paint, chemicals and other crap down the drain. Liquid detergents
only.


Thanks, that's very helpful! I'm going to take a second look.

Can you give me an idea what the cost might be for having the tank
pumped? We haven't been here long enough to do that. We have a 1000
gallon tank.


It really depends on your area. The local "impact" fees can greatly
affect costs. In one area I was in the cost doubled when they tightened
some environmental things.

Just call a couple of places and ask how much to pump out a 1000 gal
tank. 1000 gal tank is typical. Some things you might wanna ask.

Who digs up and pulls the cap?

If you have a really manicured lawn you may want to neatly cut the turf
back yourself and put on the side along with the topsoil. Keep the turf
wet. You don't want the undersoil end up right below the turf since it's
lower quality. They shouldn't butcher it and should do what they can to
preserve but you can't expect them to baby it. If you put it back, put
the soil back in layers and pack in between. Water the layers so it packs
more. This is to prevent mounding at the top.

The septic tank edge should be about 10ft out from the foundation where
the pipe exits from the inside. That's not a guarantee. The tank could
have been put elsewhere for some reason. Find the other edges. It's
rectangular. The center is where the pumping cap is. The inspection caps
are maybe a foot before and after the pumping cap. They find it by
sticking a long metal rod in the soil looking for concrete. The ones I've
seen are usually 12-24" down.

Do they pull the inlet and outlet covers to inspect?
Do they pump out the VERY BOTTOM bottom of the tank?

How many people in the house (showers, laundry, etc) can affect how often
you should have it done. Another factor is how many women are in the
household. A lot more paper usage. The assessment at pumpings will give
you a feel for it.

On Sun 04 May 2008 09:15:34p, Red Green told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 08:21:02p, Red Green told us...

Wayne Boatwright wrote in
3.184:

On Sun 04 May 2008 06:54:02p, Steve told us...

"CP" wrote in
:

Hello everyone,
I have a garbage disposal that became stuck. I was able to break
it free from the bottom using the supplied wrench but it doesn't
turn as smoothly as it should. When I turn the disposal on it
makes a lot of noise, runs for about 5 seconds and then the
breaker trips. This garbage disposal is in my vacation home in the
desert and does not get a lot of usage.
Though not completely sure I believe the unit is about 5 years
old. Any helpful advice/suggestions are appreciated.

Garbage disposals are cheap. Replace it. Unless you enjoy repairing
stuff, you'll waste more time looking at it than it's worth.

For the best bang for the buck, replace it with a standard drain.
Most people don't get much use from a disposal.

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a
disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one,
where we are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one
with septic. We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm
already sick of plate scrapings, peelings, and other food waste
instead of a quick swish down the disposal.

I know that In-Sink-Erator makes a model specifically for use with
septic systems that injects an enzyme solution each time the dispsal
is used, but I'm still skeptical of its effectiveness.


I had one for 14 yrs in a new home I had built. Never had a problem
and had septic pumped like every 3-4 yrs. Never any issues with tank
or lines. Inlets and outlets always normal.

The rules were always followed. All grease gets poured off into cans.
No paint, chemicals and other crap down the drain. Liquid detergents
only.


Thanks, that's very helpful! I'm going to take a second look.

Can you give me an idea what the cost might be for having the tank
pumped? We haven't been here long enough to do that. We have a 1000
gallon tank.


It really depends on your area. The local "impact" fees can greatly
affect costs. In one area I was in the cost doubled when they tightened
some environmental things.

Just call a couple of places and ask how much to pump out a 1000 gal
tank. 1000 gal tank is typical. Some things you might wanna ask.

Who digs up and pulls the cap?

If you have a really manicured lawn you may want to neatly cut the turf
back yourself and put on the side along with the topsoil. Keep the turf
wet. You don't want the undersoil end up right below the turf since it's
lower quality. They shouldn't butcher it and should do what they can to
preserve but you can't expect them to baby it. If you put it back, put
the soil back in layers and pack in between. Water the layers so it packs
more. This is to prevent mounding at the top.

The septic tank edge should be about 10ft out from the foundation where
the pipe exits from the inside. That's not a guarantee. The tank could
have been put elsewhere for some reason. Find the other edges. It's
rectangular. The center is where the pumping cap is. The inspection caps
are maybe a foot before and after the pumping cap. They find it by
sticking a long metal rod in the soil looking for concrete. The ones I've
seen are usually 12-24" down.

Do they pull the inlet and outlet covers to inspect?
Do they pump out the VERY BOTTOM bottom of the tank?

How many people in the house (showers, laundry, etc) can affect how often
you should have it done. Another factor is how many women are in the
household. A lot more paper usage. The assessment at pumpings will give
you a feel for it.

Thanks for all the input, very helpful. Luckily, some of these things I
already know. We were present at different times when the septic system
was installed and know exactly where the tank is located. We are in
Arizona and have desert landscaping...no grass. All pipes with caps were
left exposed 3-4 inches above ground surface, and are covered by decorative
rocks, so we know exactly where everything is. No digging in this case, I
would assume, will not be necesary. The rest would be questions for the
company who does the pumping.

Thanks, again...

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Sunday, 05(V)/04(IV)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
3wks 1hrs 15mins
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Better dead than Smeg.
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one, where
we
are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one with septic.
We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm already sick of plate
scrapings, peelings, and other food waste instead of a quick swish down
the
disposal.

We barely use ours. Instead, we have those simple mesh pocket shaped items
you put over the drain. They get dumped than put in the dishwasher (I have
4 of them so can rotate 2 out to dishwasher each time we do a load.

I have also a sink unit called
Over-the-Sink Strainer
Bought at jcpenny.com. As I think your address is not munged, I used their
link to email the product description to you. It's very well made and no
muss, no fuss. Just flip it over and use the sink sprayer to clean most
stuff right out. Loads just fine in the top of the dishwasher. (use the top
due to the rubber handles please). The picture will not tell you but the
'handles' extend quite a bit so you adjust it to the sink.

On Mon 05 May 2008 03:43:35a, cshenk told us...

"Wayne Boatwright" wrote

If I could have one, I would get a huge amount of use from a disposal.
We've had one in every other home we've owned except for this one,
where we are on a septic system. It was recommended we not use one
with septic. We've only lived here a year and a half, and I'm already
sick of plate scrapings, peelings, and other food waste instead of a
quick swish down the disposal.

We barely use ours. Instead, we have those simple mesh pocket shaped
items you put over the drain. They get dumped than put in the
dishwasher (I have 4 of them so can rotate 2 out to dishwasher each time
we do a load.

Actually, I do have two of those (one for each side of the sink), and they
are quite useful in catching all the small things that might otherwise go
down the drain. An extra set would be handy. Just never thought of it.

I have also a sink unit called
Over-the-Sink Strainer
Bought at jcpenny.com. As I think your address is not munged, I used
their link to email the product description to you. It's very well made
and no muss, no fuss. Just flip it over and use the sink sprayer to
clean most stuff right out. Loads just fine in the top of the
dishwasher. (use the top due to the rubber handles please). The picture
will not tell you but the 'handles' extend quite a bit so you adjust it
to the sink.

Thanks... Now there's a good idea. Yes, I got the link and I think I'm
going to order one. Very thoughtful of you!

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Monday, 05(V)/05(V)/08(MMVIII)
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Countdown till Memorial Day
2wks 6dys 19hrs 25mins
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I have seen gross intolerance shown in
support of tolerance -Coleridge
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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote
cshenk told us...

We barely use ours. Instead, we have those simple mesh pocket shaped
items you put over the drain. They get dumped then put in the
dishwasher (I have 4 of them so can rotate 2 out to dishwasher each time
we do a load.

Actually, I do have two of those (one for each side of the sink), and they
are quite useful in catching all the small things that might otherwise go
down the drain. An extra set would be handy. Just never thought of it.

Hehehehe. Without meaning to bore anyone about my stay in Japan, fact is
they do not have have electric disposals often. Instead, they have these
metal grate things that fit down in the sink which are about (memory here) 4
inches across and about 6 deep. You just lift them out and dump in the
trash, then put it back in. Really *nice* once you get used to them. There
is nothing to break. They seldom lead to 'clogs' unless it's pouring oil
(bacon fat etc) down the sink. Being used to this by the time we got here,
we adapted to the sink strainer units you can get here.

I have also a sink unit called
Over-the-Sink Strainer
Bought at jcpenny.com. As I think your address is not munged, I used
(snip)

Thanks... Now there's a good idea. Yes, I got the link and I think I'm
going to order one. Very thoughtful of you!

Happy to help! I really *do* like this product.

I also happen to really like the FPO AP policies of JCpenny. Many 'say'
they support the troops, but jcpenny is the only one who really does among
the big web ordering sites. They do not charge more for an APO FP (or any
APO type address) while so many do, and their speed of delivery can be as
short as 2 days with no need to pay extra. In short, they make an actual
*effort*. Their web site accepts international phone numbers easily with an
APO address and zip code. You don't know how bad Wal-mart really is until
you try to order from an APO address... Funny thing is they used to be
decent.

Shipping to an APO adress no matter where in the world, costs the same as a
shipment to any CONUS lower 48 state address for the shipper but many try to
charge us military international rates to make extra profit. jcpenny is
honest and just say 'may take longer, special delivery faster services not
available' (yet most often hit anything other than a ship at sea, in 2-5
days).

"Art" wrote

My understanding regarding the requirement for a garbage disposal what
just that; to dispose of garbage. It was added to the building code in
many municipalities to avoid garbage going into outdoor refuse. Mainly
for improved sanitary conditions and to avoid attracting rodents and the
inherent problems that involves.

Art, curious here but I'm not aware of anyplace where they are 'required'?
They are optional as far as i know but a cheap addition so many places have
them. Are they actually required where you are?