Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

T.J. wrote:
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

Google them.

--
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HVAC Service Technician
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Houston, Texas
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T.J. wrote:
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing


You might want to repost this over on

sci.electronics.repair

to get some real answers and a feel for how often you
need or might use the features.

: 1. Conductance
This is when a guy in a tuxedo gets up in front of the orchestra,
and waves the little black thing that is on the end of the VOM
wire. While people are out on the dance floor. He's the conduct
dance.

: 2. Motor Drive Measurement
Every computer has a C drive. Well, some have motor drives also.
You put one lead in your A-drive, and another in the disk drive.
The meter tells you how much motor drive you have.

: 3. Smoothing
When you surf the web, you click from picture to picture. Web
page to web page. By smoothing, you make all the web pages look
the same. This is a computer function. Usually they just look
like a blank screen, but that's smoothing for you.

--

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You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"T.J." wrote in message
oups.com...
: Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features
that
: currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently
have no
: idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain
to me
: what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
: 1. Conductance
: 2. Motor Drive Measurement
: 3. Smoothing
:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:29:56 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

: 1. Conductance
This is when a guy in a tuxedo gets up in front of the orchestra,
and waves the little black thing that is on the end of the VOM
wire. While people are out on the dance floor. He's the conduct
dance.

: 2. Motor Drive Measurement
Every computer has a C drive. Well, some have motor drives also.
You put one lead in your A-drive, and another in the disk drive.
The meter tells you how much motor drive you have.

: 3. Smoothing
When you surf the web, you click from picture to picture. Web
page to web page. By smoothing, you make all the web pages look
the same. This is a computer function. Usually they just look
like a blank screen, but that's smoothing for you.

Thank you for the brevity. Very concise and too the point.
--
Oren

"I didn’t say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you."

Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos


"T.J." wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

Mho? isn't that what she screams in the bedroom?

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"jmagerl" wrote in message
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: Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as
1/ohms=mhos
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:
: "T.J." wrote in message
: oups.com...
: Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few
features that
: currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I
currently have no
: idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can
explain to me
: what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
: 1. Conductance
: 2. Motor Drive Measurement
: 3. Smoothing
:
:
:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:02:47 GMT, "jmagerl"
wrote:

Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos


They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).


"T.J." wrote in message
roups.com...
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing


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"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:02:47 GMT, "jmagerl"
wrote:

Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos


They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).


How do you feel about the change of cycles-per-second to Hertz?

jmagerl wrote:


One of the great pieces of scientific humor was the units for
conductance as mho, with a symbol of an upside down omega [ohms symbol].

It has been ruined. I believe conductance is now Siemens. Who the hell
ever heard of Siemens. I was depressed for weeks.

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Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos


"T.J." wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

On Jul 31, 4:24 pm, bud-- wrote:
jmagerl wrote:

One of the great pieces of scientific humor was the units for
conductance as mho, with a symbol of an upside down omega [ohms symbol].

It has been ruined. I believe conductance is now Siemens. Who the hell
ever heard of Siemens. I was depressed for weeks.

No problemo; just rename the unit of resistance Snemeis.

On Jul 30, 11:11 am, "T.J." wrote:
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

sounds like some fancy meter;

conductance like everybody is telling you is 1/resistance. Most useful
when comparing like .000000000001 ohms with .00000000000002 ohms;
i.e., i've never needed it in my life, but i guess if you're pumping
huge currents through big wires, it's important.

smoothing, i would guess is just a filter to keep the reading
steadier; digital multimeters are inferior to analog in your ability
to just eyeball an average number from a wobbling reading, so that
would be cool.

motor drive measurement, seems like nobody here knows and neither do
i.

you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:44:27 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote Re Multimeters:

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:02:47 GMT, "jmagerl"
wrote:

Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos


They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).


How do you feel about the change of cycles-per-second to Hertz?


Even after all these years, I'm still annoyed by it. Why name
something like that after a car rental company? :-)
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z wrote:
....
you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

Something like this, maybe?

http://www.omega.com/ppt/pptsc.asp?ref=HHM2

Unfortunately, it seems to have been discontinued. I've seen some
others advertised, too, but don't recall who, specifically.

--

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:24:31 -0500, bud--
wrote:

jmagerl wrote:


One of the great pieces of scientific humor was the units for
conductance as mho, with a symbol of an upside down omega [ohms symbol].

It has been ruined. I believe conductance is now Siemens. Who the hell
ever heard of Siemens. I was depressed for weeks.

I only heard about this just now, but I'm going to continue to call
them mhos. Just like I call the stadiums in Baltimore by Oriole Park
and Ravens Stadium. Even though iiuc they never had those names, and
the previous baseball stadium was called Memorial Stadium**. Same
thing for other cities.

**Even though they never said what it was a memorial too and if you
entered by the sides and never looked at the end, you'd never know.
At least one could find out by looking. I had to call Union Memorial
Hospital to find out what it was a memorial to. The Union?

I'm not bound by their rules. And I'm also not bound to learn new
names when other people want new names.

I also call the inverse of a volt a larry and the inverse of an amp a
curlie.

And Pluto is the ninth planet from the sun. If there are hundreds of
others that big that don't get noticed, a) I don't know that, and b)
it's their problem.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:28:51 -0700, z wrote:

you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

I'm sure you know there are meters that will hold the reading (or the
maximum reading?) after the probes are removed, until you press the
zero-again button. Not as good, but easier to do.

My friend has a cellphone that takes voice ccommands, but iirc his
complaint is that he has to speak each number. I think he also has to
train the phone. He thinks for all that they should let him give
names to full phone numbers. He spends a lot of time in the truck for
business.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:24:31 -0500, bud--
wrote:

jmagerl wrote:


One of the great pieces of scientific humor was the units for
conductance as mho, with a symbol of an upside down omega [ohms symbol].

It has been ruined. I believe conductance is now Siemens. Who the hell
ever heard of Siemens. I was depressed for weeks.

Are they still using the same units (name change only)?

One time I heard of a unit of closeness, called a retem.
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"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:28:51 -0700, z wrote:

On Jul 30, 11:11 am, "T.J." wrote:
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing

sounds like some fancy meter;

conductance like everybody is telling you is 1/resistance. Most useful
when comparing like .000000000001 ohms with .00000000000002 ohms;

I suppose you'd use metric prefixes, like for any other small (or
large) numbers. Here you'd be using pico- and femto-.

i.e., i've never needed it in my life, but i guess if you're pumping
huge currents through big wires, it's important.

smoothing, i would guess is just a filter to keep the reading
steadier; digital multimeters are inferior to analog in your ability
to just eyeball an average number from a wobbling reading, so that
would be cool.

motor drive measurement, seems like nobody here knows and neither do
i.


I have worked with 4-phase stepper motors. I wonder if there's any
connection there.

you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

How will it know when you want it to speak? If you couldn't get it to
shut up that feature could become really annoying.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:28:51 -0700, z wrote:

On Jul 30, 11:11 am, "T.J." wrote:
Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing
sounds like some fancy meter;

conductance like everybody is telling you is 1/resistance. Most useful
when comparing like .000000000001 ohms with .00000000000002 ohms;

I suppose you'd use metric prefixes, like for any other small (or
large) numbers. Here you'd be using pico- and femto-.

i.e., i've never needed it in my life, but i guess if you're pumping
huge currents through big wires, it's important.

smoothing, i would guess is just a filter to keep the reading
steadier; digital multimeters are inferior to analog in your ability
to just eyeball an average number from a wobbling reading, so that
would be cool.

motor drive measurement, seems like nobody here knows and neither do
i.


I have worked with 4-phase stepper motors. I wonder if there's any
connection there.

you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

How will it know when you want it to speak? If you couldn't get it to
shut up that feature could become really annoying.

The one I posted a link to has (or had, since its now out of production,
apparently) a button on the positive lead to ask for a measurement.
Whether it had an "auto-irritate" mode I don't know...

--

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:42:27 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:


you know what i would like, though it seems silly; something that
would speak the reading when i have both hands on the leads and can't
take my eye off things long enough to look at the meter.

How will it know when you want it to speak?

I think your wife is supposed to tell it.

If you couldn't get it to
shut up that feature could become really annoying.
--
Mark Lloyd

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:29:36 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:



One time I heard of a unit of closeness, called a retem.

Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

mm wrote:
On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:29:36 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:


One time I heard of a unit of closeness, called a retem.

Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.


Then there is Evian bottled water.

--
bud--

On Jul 31, 1:18 pm, Mark Lloyd wrote:
They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).

You mean;
Like watts; after James Watt?
Or volts after Volta, amps after Ampere, farads after Faraday, curies
after Marie Curie, roentgens of radioctivity after Roentgen, magnetic
flux after Gauss,. frequencies after Hertz, pasteurization of food
after Pasteur, etc. etc. hard to think of many units that are NOT
named after some researcher!
Maybe we could think and Fess and den come up with a few missing
ones?.
And of course we have the decibel (Bel) after Alexander Graham Bell of
telephone inventing fame!

The farad is the SI unit of the capacitance of an electrical system,
that is, its capacity to store electricity. It is a rather large unit
as defined and is more often used as a microfarad.
It is named after the English chemist and physicist Michael Faraday
(1791-1867).

The hertz is the SI unit of the frequency of a periodic phenomenon.
One hertz indicates that 1 cycle of the phenomenon occurs every
second. For most work much higher frequencies are needed such as the
kilohertz [kHz] and megahertz [MHz].
It is named after the German physicist Heinrich Rudolph Hertz
(1857-94).

The joule is the SI unit of work or energy. One joule is the amount of
work done when an applied force of 1 newton moves through a distance
of 1 metre in the direction of the force.It is named after the English
physicist James Prescott Joule (1818-89).

The newton is the SI unit of force. One newton is the force required
to give a mass of 1 kilogram an acceleration of 1 metre per second per
second. It is named after the English mathematician and physicist Sir
Isaac Newton (1642-1727).

The ohm is the SI unit of resistance of an electrical conductor. Its
symbol, is the capital Greek letter 'omega'. It is named after the
German physicist Georg Simon Ohm (1789-1854).

The pascal is the SI unit of pressure. One pascal is the pressure
generated by a force of 1 newton acting on an area of 1 square metre.
It is a rather small unit as defined and is more often used as a
kilopascal [kPa]. It is named after the French mathematician,
physicist and philosopher Blaise Pascal (1623-62).

The volt is the SI unit of electric potential. One volt is the
difference of potential between two points of an electical conductor
when a current of 1 ampere flowing between those points dissipates a
power of 1 watt. It is named after the Italian physicist Count
Alessandro Giuseppe Anastasio Volta (1745-1827).

The watt is used to measure power or the rate of doing work. One watt
is a power of 1 joule per second. It is named after the Scottish
engineer James Watt (1736-1819

More some other time .................... ! There's bound to be a
Russian or two in among those Europeans!

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:34:33 -0700, terry
wrote:

On Jul 31, 1:18 pm, Mark Lloyd wrote:
They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).

You mean;
Like watts; after James Watt?
Or volts after Volta, amps after Ampere, farads after Faraday, curies
after Marie Curie, roentgens of radioctivity after Roentgen, magnetic
flux after Gauss,. frequencies after Hertz, pasteurization of food
after Pasteur, etc. etc. hard to think of many units that are NOT
named after some researcher!
Maybe we could think and Fess and den come up with a few missing
ones?.
And of course we have the decibel (Bel) after Alexander Graham Bell of
telephone inventing fame!

Could this involve the strange idea that if something happens a lot,
it must be good?
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"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

mm wrote:
Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

And Stroh's spelled backwards is shorts.

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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:27:02 -0500, clifto wrote:

mm wrote:
Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

And Stroh's spelled backwards is shorts.

Try spelling "live" backward.

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:02:47 GMT, "jmagerl"
wrote:


Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos



They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).


"T.J." wrote in message
groups.com...

Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing


Hmmm,
Ohm is a name too. Now how about admittance?

on 8/4/2007 11:40 AM Harry said the following:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:27:02 -0500, clifto wrote:


mm wrote:

Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

And Stroh's spelled backwards is shorts.


Try spelling "live" backward.


The best one is the bottled water from Evian.
Does that not describe their consumers?

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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:50:08 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:02:47 GMT, "jmagerl"
wrote:


Conductance is the inverse of resistance. calculated as 1/ohms=mhos



They changed "Mhos" to "Siemens". I wish they hadn't (naming it after
someone, rather than using something actually meaningful).


"T.J." wrote in message
egroups.com...

Hi I want to buy a new Multimeter and there are a few features that
currently I have no idea what they mean. Obviously I currently have no
idea for those features but I wondered if somebody can explain to me
what they are/do so maybe in the future I will need them.
1. Conductance
2. Motor Drive Measurement
3. Smoothing


Hmmm,
Ohm is a name too.

Yes, the point was in not using an ADDITIONAL name.

Now how about admittance?

I don't know about admittance, other than this is the reciprocal of
impedance.
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"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 11:56:51 -0400, willshak
wrote:

on 8/4/2007 11:40 AM Harry said the following:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:27:02 -0500, clifto wrote:


mm wrote:

Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

And Stroh's spelled backwards is shorts.


Try spelling "live" backward.


The best one is the bottled water from Evian.
Does that not describe their consumers?

I suppose.

BTW, I have found Perrier to taste terrible.
--
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http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

Tony Hwang wrote:
....

Hmmm,
Ohm is a name too. Now how about admittance?

You don't recall Lord Admit???

--

willshak wrote:
on 8/4/2007 11:40 AM Harry said the following:
On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:27:02 -0500, clifto wrote:
mm wrote:

Remember Serutan spelled backwards is Natures

and Tums spelled backwards is smut.

And Stroh's spelled backwards is shorts.


Try spelling "live" backward.


The best one is the bottled water from Evian.
Does that not describe their consumers?

And just try spelling 'palindrome' backward! Oh, wait...

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