Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

aspasia wrote in message
...
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

I don't think anyone would mind if you posted a LINK to a photo. An actual
photo attachment would get me ****ed off, too many spammers and kiddie
script hackers use attachments to trojan horse computers.

aspasia wrote:
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

Don't use a newsgroup to post your pics.
Get a free account he
http://photobucket.com/
to upload photos to.
Then simply post the Link in your newsgroup message.

You can also use it to "send" photos to family/friends
without the wasteful e-mail attachments.

Jim

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:42:13 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:


aspasia wrote in message
m...
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

I don't think anyone would mind if you posted a LINK to a photo. An actual
photo attachment would get me ****ed off, too many spammers and kiddie
script hackers use attachments to trojan horse computers.

That's what I DID!

I know better than to attach binaries to a NG message. Yet somebody
did get starchy about going to a garden NG to retrieve the picture.
Can't win...! Been terrified ever since to post a pic with link to a
binary.

Aspasia

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:53:55 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote:

aspasia wrote:
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

Don't use a newsgroup to post your pics.

I DON'T! My message must have been unclear.

I posted a LINK to a binary picture account.
It worked; I got responses.

I also got a snotty message not to send people
to a garden picture NG. Big f***ing deal!

Get a free account he
http://photobucket.com/
to upload photos to.
Then simply post the Link in your newsgroup message.

You can also use it to "send" photos to family/friends
without the wasteful e-mail attachments.

Thanks, Jim.

Aspasia

In article , aspasia
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:42:13 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:


aspasia wrote in message
m...
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

I don't think anyone would mind if you posted a LINK to a photo. An actual
photo attachment would get me ****ed off, too many spammers and kiddie
script hackers use attachments to trojan horse computers.

That's what I DID!

I know better than to attach binaries to a NG message. Yet somebody
did get starchy about going to a garden NG to retrieve the picture.
Can't win...! Been terrified ever since to post a pic with link to a
binary.

Aspasia

You need to learn a little more about the structure of the internet.
Don't post a home repair pic to a different newsgroup just because that
group accepts "binary" or other types of picture files. Post it
*somewhere else* on the internet - more specifically, the world wide web
- (do a google search for "free picture hosting", upload your pic
following that website's directions, and then post the LINK to that
picture, i.e., the URL, here.

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:38:38 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article , aspasia
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:42:13 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:


aspasia wrote in message
m...
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

I don't think anyone would mind if you posted a LINK to a photo. An actual
photo attachment would get me ****ed off, too many spammers and kiddie
script hackers use attachments to trojan horse computers.

That's what I DID!

I know better than to attach binaries to a NG message. Yet somebody
did get starchy about going to a garden NG to retrieve the picture.
Can't win...! Been terrified ever since to post a pic with link to a
binary.

Aspasia

You need to learn a little more about the structure of the internet.
Don't post a home repair pic to a different newsgroup just because that
group accepts "binary" or other types of picture files. Post it
*somewhere else* on the internet - more specifically, the world wide web
- (do a google search for "free picture hosting", upload your pic
following that website's directions, and then post the LINK to that
picture, i.e., the URL, here.

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

aspasia

In article , aspasia
wrote:

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:38:38 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article , aspasia
wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 16:42:13 -0700, "Eigenvector"
wrote:


aspasia wrote in message
m...
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

I don't think anyone would mind if you posted a LINK to a photo. An
actual
photo attachment would get me ****ed off, too many spammers and kiddie
script hackers use attachments to trojan horse computers.

That's what I DID!

I know better than to attach binaries to a NG message. Yet somebody
did get starchy about going to a garden NG to retrieve the picture.
Can't win...! Been terrified ever since to post a pic with link to a
binary.

Aspasia

You need to learn a little more about the structure of the internet.
Don't post a home repair pic to a different newsgroup just because that
group accepts "binary" or other types of picture files. Post it
*somewhere else* on the internet - more specifically, the world wide web
- (do a google search for "free picture hosting", upload your pic
following that website's directions, and then post the LINK to that
picture, i.e., the URL, here.

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

aspasia

You don't appear to be stupid, but you're certainly ignorant. You
apparently have no idea that Usenet and the World Wide Web are two
entirely different things. I was trying to educate you, or encourage you
to educate yourself, but if you'd rather remain stubbornly proud of your
own ignorance, go right ahead.

Still, you'll likely continue to be viciously flamed for your ignorance,
as you were in the past, by those less tolerant on Usenet. *Those*
people see your squatting in their newsgroup as akin to inviting your
friends to a barbecue in some stranger's back yard just because you
don't know where the public park or beach is.

- You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
- actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
- EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
- actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
- "place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
- "garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.
-
- aspasia

Here's a process that's sure to endear you to newsgroups across the
globe:

Post your question to a NG, receive some very good advice and
suggestions, and then insult and argue with the people whose advice
you sought.

Something tells me it was more than the just the picture that had the
garden newsgroup upset with you, unless of course you posted a picture
of your attitude.

aspasia wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:53:55 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote:

aspasia wrote:
Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was
all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not
find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

TIA

Aspasia

Don't use a newsgroup to post your pics.

I DON'T! My message must have been unclear.

I posted a LINK to a binary picture account.
It worked; I got responses.

I also got a snotty message not to send people
to a garden picture NG. Big f***ing deal!

One snotty message is just one idiot with nothing better to do than
harass people. Forget about it. You did fine. If all the regulars in
the group let you have it, you'd have something to think about.

Bob

aspasia wrote:

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

Nope. You posted a picture (if I'm understanding your posts correctly) to a
newsgroup that allowed binaries. Then you posted a link to the newsgroup
that contained your picture.

A newsgroup is not a website. A newsgroup does not have a URL. You were
asking those who might want to view your picture to rummage through postings
on a newsgroup to find your photo.

In article , Meat Plow wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:35:59 -0500, HeyBub wrote:

aspasia wrote:

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

Nope. You posted a picture (if I'm understanding your posts correctly) to a
newsgroup that allowed binaries. Then you posted a link to the newsgroup
that contained your picture.

A newsgroup is not a website. A newsgroup does not have a URL. You were
asking those who might want to view your picture to rummage through postings
on a newsgroup to find your photo.

Just to nitpick, newsgroups do have a URL

news://alt.home.repair

Furthermore, at least in theory, so do individual posts.
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/HTML3....html#news-art


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:35:59 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

aspasia wrote:

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

Nope. You posted a picture (if I'm understanding your posts correctly) to a
newsgroup that allowed binaries. Then you posted a link to the newsgroup
that contained your picture.

A newsgroup is not a website. A newsgroup does not have a URL. You were
asking those who might want to view your picture to rummage through postings
on a newsgroup to find your photo.

There is some cognitive dissonance going on here.

I fail to see how much "rummaging" would be required to find my photo.

The original posting to the NG has a Subject line.

To find that Subject on a binary picture group,go to the group,
hit "Find", type in the Subject line, and bingo, you go straight to
the desired photo (or, on an ordinary NG, to the desired Message).

No pain, no strain, no imposition.

Aspasia

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 06:04:19 -0700, DerbyDad03
wrote:

- You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
- actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
- EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
- actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
- "place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
- "garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.
-
- aspasia

Here's a process that's sure to endear you to newsgroups across the
globe:

Post your question to a NG, receive some very good advice and
suggestions, and then insult and argue with the people whose advice
you sought.

Some of the advice was do-able; some was irrelevant, apparently due
to my having committed the cardinal sin of referring to a Link as a
URL. My bad!!!

Something tells me it was more than the just the picture that had the
garden newsgroup upset with you, unless of course you posted a picture
of your attitude.

No, it was just that; nothing else.

I never did understand why that one individual had such a problem
going to a legitimate NG and clicking on Link to a Photo.

Maybe I shouldn't have let that individual dictate my future conduct.

If I want to see a picture that someone has posted a link to,
I go there. I don't care if it's a NG about flatworms or galaxies;
my objective is to view the picture.

Aspasia

aspasia wrote in message
...
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 09:35:59 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

aspasia wrote:

You are being patronizing. Furthermore, you haven't bothered to
actually READ my message. What you are suggesting is
EXACTLY what I did -- i.e. post a link to a place where the
actual picture could be seen. It's petty to quibble that the
"place where the actual picture could be seen" happens to be labeled
"garden" rather than some "free picture hosting" site.

Nope. You posted a picture (if I'm understanding your posts correctly) to
a
newsgroup that allowed binaries. Then you posted a link to the newsgroup
that contained your picture.

A newsgroup is not a website. A newsgroup does not have a URL. You were
asking those who might want to view your picture to rummage through
postings
on a newsgroup to find your photo.

There is some cognitive dissonance going on here.

I fail to see how much "rummaging" would be required to find my photo.

The original posting to the NG has a Subject line.

To find that Subject on a binary picture group,go to the group,
hit "Find", type in the Subject line, and bingo, you go straight to
the desired photo (or, on an ordinary NG, to the desired Message).

No pain, no strain, no imposition.

Aspasia

You are welcome to post an image to the site in my sig line and post the
link here. I pretty much made the site for this purpose though it has not
worked out all that well.


--
Colbyt
One picture can be worth a 1000 words.
Post yours at www.ImageGenie.net for FREE.

On Jul 5, 4:04 pm, aspasia wrote:

- If I want to see a picture that someone has posted a link to,
- I go there. I don't care if it's a NG about flatworms or galaxies;
- my objective is to view the picture.

It appears that you and I, along with some others, are looking at this
from opposite ends. You appear to be looking at it from the "viewing
the picture" end, while others are looking at from the "where the
picture ended up" end.

This is how I'm viewing what happened to you in the past. I have no
doubt that you will correct me if I am wrong.

Hypothetical situation:
1 - I'm a regular participant in a NG entitled rec.fits-ga-wizies.
2 - rec.fits-ga-wizies allows binaries to be posted.
3 - You are regular participant in a NG entitled alt.cay-var-masums.
4 - alt.cay-var-masums does not allow binaries to be posted.
5 - You have a binary related to cay-var-masums that you want the
world to see.
6 - You post that binary in rec.fits-ga-wizies and point everyone from
alt.cay-var-masums to it via a link.
7 - I (see #1) let you know that rec.fits-ga-wizies is not the correct
place to post binaries related to cay-var-masums.
8 - You (see #3) think I'm being petty when I complain about where you
posted your binary because you don't think it matters if the NG name
doesn't match the subject matter of the binary.

So, assuming that's all true, let's see what various netiquette sites
say about articles, which can just as easily be said about binaries...

Source: How not to look like an idiot on Usenet (http://
infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/news/idiot.html)

Be careful of crossposting. Post your article to only to appropriate
groups.

Source: A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community (http://
www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/primer/part1/)

It is considered bad form to post both to misc.misc, soc.net-people,
or misc.wanted and to some other newsgroup. If it belongs in that
other newsgroup, it does not belong in misc.misc, soc.net-people, or
misc.wanted.

Source: Why and how to crosspost (http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
usenet/xpost.html#select)

Select a group
Generally, post your question or article to the group that is most
suitable for the topic. See How to find the right place to post (FAQ).
Specifically select a group which is as specific as possible.

You know I could go on and on.

So regardless of the fact that you think it's OK to post OT binaries
anywhere that you like, many others don't agree. Enough "others" that
many, many people have written "rules" about it. I won't even argue
about who's right and who's wrong. I'll simply offer this: There is
a suggested and accepted alternative to posting binaries in a NG that
isn't related to the subject matter - use any of the multitude of free
picture posting websites. It's not that hard and it doesn't upset
anyone.

What could be better than that?

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:30:40 -0700, aspasia wrote:

Is there a certain binary that NG members use to post pictures
of problems?

I posted a picture here once on a binary garden group, which was all I
knew, and had my head handed to me.

Was the question you asked on alt.home.repair relevant to and one you
also asked on the garden group?

If not, that's the big objection, that the garden group has to put up
with your attachment when the question isn't addressed to them and
might not even be relevant to them. For people who are regular
readers of a group, and who dl all the headers AND bodies for that
group, they have to dl your doggone binary.

Is the ng moderated? If not,they would probably prohibit binaries
themselves and ask for web links if anyone was in charge. (AFAICT, no
one is actually in charge of non-moderated groups. Rather amazing!)

I just looked at ALL the binaries in "all groups", but did not find
what I wanted. They are mostly porn, with a few technical,
computer, etc.

Would like to have a binary I can use to post repair problems.

Many ISPs give you your own webspace for no additional cost and there
are various webpages that allow you to post pictures. tinypic is the
only one I remember, and it doesn't work really well for me, iirc, in
that sometimes the picture doesn't download to my browser, but maybe
that is my problem and there are certainly others that work fine for
me. Posters here often refer us to pictures they have posted on the
web.

I've done it, and there is far more rummaging involved in looking for
a picture on a newsgroup than on the web.

Almost all Usenet users read with an offline news reader, so they have
to go through 3 or 4 steps to find the ng you have chosen. Then they
have to download an unknown number of headers to find the thread,
perhaps use the Search function which I never use and don't know how
for News, then realize that the ng involved gets a lot of traffic and
I'll have to dl more than 200 headers to find the thread I want, maybe
more than 1000. Then I have to dl the body, then click on the body's
attachment and hope it comes up in my browser.

Believe you me, a link to the web is far easier. It's one step
instead of about 10.

TIA

Aspasia

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:55:16 -0400, "Colbyt"
wrote:

[...snippage...]

You are welcome to post an image to the site in my sig line and post the
link here. I pretty much made the site for this purpose though it has not
worked out all that well.

Thanks, Colbyt, for the courteous offer.

Never did I think, when I originally posted an inquiry intended to be
polite and cooperative with the NG, that it would unleash WW III!

No good deed goes unpunished!

I will post picture of my poor end table to your Web site, and thanks
again.

Aspasia