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In article , "Charles" wrote:
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message Tell me, Corky, how is this man going to find your "bad connection" without removing the fixture and testing the source first, eh? Seems to me that is the very first step - so he knows whether to work on the fixture or go back to the switch. Look, Porky. If you have useful input for the OP, tend to it. Idjit. That's exactly what he's doing by pointing out that the OP needs to remove the fixture and test the source. Don't take cheap shots at others trying to help. Physician, heal thyself. He *is* providing useful advice, and *you* are taking cheap shots without having provided even one iota of useful advice yourself. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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In article , "Charles" wrote:
A phantom voltage is defined by NEMA as being caused by capacitive coupling among conductors. Inducitve coupling is different What difference does it make? Either way, the voltage that the OP is measuring is at an *extremely* low current, and as such is meaningless. No big deal here, as neither capacitive coupling or inductive coupling is applicable to this particular situation. This is an ass-umption on your part, with little apparent foundation. This situation is so simple, in terms of troubleshooting, that it merits little discussion. Indeed it is; unfortunately, this is not a compliment to your own diagnostic skills, as both the likely failure mode and the means of troubleshooting it continue to elude you. You ass-ume, with no basis, that the circuit the OP is testing is a completed circuit with a "bad connection" (e.g. high resistance connection) somewhere. In fact, the more likely situation by far is an *open* circuit with sub-milliampere-level current induced by an adjacent, powered circuit. If the OP tests with an analog voltmeter, or an incandescent test lamp -- or any other device with a low enough impedance to actually place significant load on the circuit -- the measured voltage will likely drop to zero. A bad connection is a bad connection. Anybody with an ounce of common sense knows how to proceed. Presumably you are not in this category, then, as I haven't seen you providing any advice to the OP on how to proceed. Outdoor, low-voltage lighting systems all have, or eventually have, bad connections. Pull up the wires and wiggle the connections and the lights go on and off. Go back and re-read the original post, Chuckie. Or read it for the first time, more likely. Heck, just read the title of the thread, taking particular notice of the phrase "Flood Lights". Now just what was it, precisely, that caused you to decide this is a low-voltage system? Another unfounded ASS-umption on your part. Hint for the uninformed [perhaps you'll recognize yourself in this category]: Low-voltage lighting is used for landscaping. Residential FLOODlights are normally 120V. My problem is with twits like you who have probably never fixed a broken flashlight. Twits like whom, exactly? In stark contrast to the guy you've been jumping on, the sum total of useful advice you've provided in this thread is zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Charles wrote:
Don't quibble with just me Mark. NEMA recognizes "phantom" as a term too: G Jeff, in my humble opinion the term "phantom voltage" is not applicable in this case. NEMA and others use it to refer to a capacitively induced voltage into an open circuit and measured by a high-impedance meter. In this case, the voltage is not a phantom but is a real voltage in a circuit with high resistance (due to a bad connection). Well now, I'd say that depends on what you choose to consider "high" resistance. Anything from 1K to one ohm less than infinity could be termed "high" in a lighting circuit. G Consider this....The OP says he's got "power" at the sockets whether the switch is on or off. If we take him at his word, and discount the very limited possibility that the switch could have failed in a way which keeps it "closed" regardless of its position, then I'd expect it to be far more likely that there IS a break in the wiring somewhere and that "power" the OP sees when the switch is OFF is just a capacitively coupled voltage. None of us could definitely nail where the problem really is from the OP's limited description, least of all me. But I'd side with you and cast my vote for an open connection somewhere well ahead of the fixture, leading to the OP seeing a capacitively coupled "phantom" voltage. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:32:50 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: If we take him at his word, and discount the very limited possibility that the switch could have failed in a way which keeps it "closed" regardless of its position, then I'd expect it to be far more likely that there IS a break in the wiring somewhere and that "power" the OP sees when the switch is OFF is just a capacitively coupled voltage. If he did have 120V at the fixture the lamp would burn. He has two problems. One of them is most likely the tester. |
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On May 31, 12:50 pm, Terry wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:32:50 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote: If we take him at his word, and discount the very limited possibility that the switch could have failed in a way which keeps it "closed" regardless of its position, then I'd expect it to be far more likely that there IS a break in the wiring somewhere and that "power" the OP sees when the switch is OFF is just a capacitively coupled voltage. If he did have 120V at the fixture the lamp would burn. ..... If it were a "real" 120V and not the "phantom" voltage, true -- or there's the possibility of the fixture base not contacting the bulb base, etc. It's that indicated voltage but not being from a complete, functioning circuit that has become the whole (apparently futile) argument of the subthread...and, since OP has either not come back or at least not ventured to stick a toe in (and who could blame him at this point?) to amplify the situation or add additional details or answers to queries, it's all just speculation... Only if it can also supply sufficient current to light the filament -- that's the whole argument -- |
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dpb wrote:
On May 31, 12:50 pm, Terry wrote: and, since OP has either not come back or at least not ventured to stick a toe in (and who could blame him at this point?) I often wonder what fascinating results we might witness if some of the insults passed out on this thread were to take place "face to face" in the corner pub. G "Hey, you two guys, TAKE IT OUTSIDE!" Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:50:07 -0400, Terry
wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:32:50 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote: If we take him at his word, and discount the very limited possibility that the switch could have failed in a way which keeps it "closed" regardless of its position, then I'd expect it to be far more likely that there IS a break in the wiring somewhere and that "power" the OP sees when the switch is OFF is just a capacitively coupled voltage. If he did have 120V at the fixture the lamp would burn. If the 120V is still present when a good bulb is screwed in. He has two problems. One of them is most likely the tester. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "God was invented by man for a reason, that reason is no longer applicable." |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote:
I often wonder what fascinating results we might witness if some of the insults passed out on this thread were to take place "face to face" in the corner pub. G "Hey, you two guys, TAKE IT OUTSIDE!" What insults? ;-)) |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:45:21 -0500, Clancy Wiggum
wrote: Jeff Wisnia wrote: I often wonder what fascinating results we might witness if some of the insults passed out on this thread were to take place "face to face" in the corner pub. G "Hey, you two guys, TAKE IT OUTSIDE!" What insults? ;-)) Some people have spent much of their lives being taught to confuse internal reality (imagination) with external reality (things you might see and hear). The insults were someone's internal reality, that they failed to notice weren't transmitted over the internet. |
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Go back and re-read the original post, Chuckie. Or read it for the first time, more likely. Dougie, just back off. You don't know crap about the OP's situation, as the post was hardly definitive. You have ass-sumed as much as anyone else, perhaps more so. Also, Dougie, the thing that binds geniuses, ordinary folks, and idiots all into one group ... called the human race ... is that they all have opinions. The best of them respect the opinions of others. Internet criticizers are a dime a dozen. Offer solutions or shut the heck up. |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:11:14 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: and, since OP has either not come back or at least not I often wonder what fascinating results we might witness if some of the insults passed out on this thread were to take place "face to face" in the corner pub. G Pubs are up North, Bars are in the South ... "Hey, you two guys, TAKE IT OUTSIDE!" When I walked to school in two directions (circa '60 something); there was a "bar" with a reputation. It was a notorious place; and at our age we would almost be scared to walk past the place. It was near our school and called the _Bloody Bucket_. -- Oren ...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo.. |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message . net... In article , says... Just like you respected Clancy's, huh? Sorry Dougie; did not know that you are his champion. Since you are, check his rude and tasteless response to my response which was NOT to him. You ought to rein that boy in ... or at least teach him about civilized behavior. As to the rest of your drivel, it matters not if it is a 240-V lighting system ... everybody here has been ASS-suming a lot. I have no interest in your drivel, so let's ignore each other ... (and not stalk each other ... case in point: your crap response about the paper shredder). |
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Charles wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message .net... In article , says... Just like you respected Clancy's, huh? Sorry Dougie; did not know that you are his champion. Since you are, check his rude and tasteless response to my response which was NOT to him. My rude response to your response which was not to me? Huh? If you're writing about your non-response, to the response I gave - which turned into your alleged response (which I deem as bull****), you're right. You ought to rein that boy in ... or at least teach him about civilized behavior. Let's leave Doug out of our argument for now... He already told you the facts. If you don't like the way I write, PLONK ME. As to the rest of your drivel, it matters not if it is a 240-V lighting system ... everybody here has been ASS-suming a lot. It's a 120V floodlight that is the best assumption, Corky. You came up with some crap about low voltage lights as evidenced by: Message-ID: "Outdoor, low-voltage lighting systems all have, or eventually have, bad connections. Pull up the wires and wiggle the connections and the lights go on and off." I have no interest in your drivel, so let's ignore each other ... (and not stalk each other ... case in point: your crap response about the paper shredder). It's not stalking boy, it's "responding". If he were to stalk you he might list your home address and phone. Like this: Schuler, Chuck & Elaine 5985 Bermuda Ln Naples, FL 34119-9599 (239) 594-3889 |
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Charles wrote:
Nothing worth reading. Charles' attitude and demeanor are not wort my im, no matter how ood any of his suggestions might be. His crap infuses every post he has made, not just this one. Charles, on my machine, you have just disappeared from this group I'll nener have to read any more of your drivel. PLONK Bye - bye. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message l.net... In article , says... Just like you respected Clancy's, huh? Sorry Dougie; did not know that you are his champion. Since you are, check his rude and tasteless response to my response which was NOT to him. My rude response to your response which was not to me? Huh? If you're writing about your non-response, to the response I gave - which turned into your alleged response (which I deem as bull****), you're right. You ought to rein that boy in ... or at least teach him about civilized behavior. Let's leave Doug out of our argument for now... He already told you the facts. If you don't like the way I write, PLONK ME. As to the rest of your drivel, it matters not if it is a 240-V lighting system ... everybody here has been ASS-suming a lot. It's a 120V floodlight that is the best assumption, Corky. You came up with some crap about low voltage lights as evidenced by: Message-ID: "Outdoor, low-voltage lighting systems all have, or eventually have, bad connections. Pull up the wires and wiggle the connections and the lights go on and off." I have no interest in your drivel, so let's ignore each other ... (and not stalk each other ... case in point: your crap response about the paper shredder). It's not stalking boy, it's "responding". If he were to stalk you he might list your home address and phone. Like this: Schuler, Chuck & Elaine 5985 Bermuda Ln Naples, FL 34119-9599 (239) 594-3889 See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. |
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"jJim McLaughlin" wrote in message . .. Charles wrote: Nothing worth reading. Charles' attitude and demeanor are not wort my im, no matter how ood any of his suggestions might be. His crap infuses every post he has made, not just this one. Charles, on my machine, you have just disappeared from this group I'll nener have to read any more of your drivel. PLONK Bye - bye. Bye |
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Charles wrote:
See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. Good luck with that, Corky. |
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George J wrote:
Some people have spent much of their lives being taught to confuse internal reality (imagination) with external reality (things you might see and hear). The insults were someone's internal reality, that they failed to notice weren't transmitted over the internet. Nahh... They were good old fashioned insults! :-)) Chuck is all upset now... boo ****in' hoo. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. Good luck with that, Corky. Oh, you really don't know. Your sad awakening is just around the corner. What you have done is well documented and cannot be weaseled out of. You have stepped way over the line and will now pay a hefty price. Court time! Invasion of privacy covers distribution of private information. You are dust. |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:17:38 -0500, Clancy Wiggum
wrote: It's not stalking boy, it's "responding". If he were to stalk you he might list your home address and phone. Like this: I try to refrain from this type of stuff, but you can also use Google Maps to posts a link to a satellite photo of the address. Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Marge sees Homer in the backyard laying on a hammock naked. |
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Charles wrote:
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message .. . Charles wrote: See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. Good luck with that, Corky. Oh, you really don't know. Your sad awakening is just around the corner. What you have done is well documented and cannot be weaseled out of. You have stepped way over the line and will now pay a hefty price. Court time! Invasion of privacy covers distribution of private information. You are dust. Now, now. Chuck... Let's ground you. You are posting on an international newsgroup, you have ZERO expectation of privacy! Your email address clearly identifies you as '. If you didn't want to be identified, you should not have used your real name. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: "Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message . .. Charles wrote: See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. Good luck with that, Corky. Oh, you really don't know. Your sad awakening is just around the corner. What you have done is well documented and cannot be weaseled out of. You have stepped way over the line and will now pay a hefty price. Court time! Invasion of privacy covers distribution of private information. You are dust. Now, now. Chuck... Let's ground you. You are posting on an international newsgroup, you have ZERO expectation of privacy! Your email address clearly identifies you as '. If you didn't want to be identified, you should not have used your real name. You are in for an education about how this really works. Sorry, but you are not going to like what happens next. |
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Charles wrote:
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message .. . Charles wrote: "Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: See, now you have upped the ante. My attorney will be contacting you. I hope you have a very good attorney, by the way. Good luck with that, Corky. Oh, you really don't know. Your sad awakening is just around the corner. What you have done is well documented and cannot be weaseled out of. You have stepped way over the line and will now pay a hefty price. Court time! Invasion of privacy covers distribution of private information. You are dust. Now, now. Chuck... Let's ground you. You are posting on an international newsgroup, you have ZERO expectation of privacy! Your email address clearly identifies you as '. If you didn't want to be identified, you should not have used your real name. You are in for an education about how this really works. Sorry, but you are not going to like what happens next. As I already wrote, good luck. Your slack-jawed attorney is going to have to subpoena logs from Germany, then you'll have to prove to a US court they are admissible. When all is said and done, my argument will prevail - I can say anything I want, provided it is public information - which is how your data was received. Why do think you have a right of privacy? You provided your name, and Google provided the rest. Sue Google, guess what - genius, there is way more public info available about you. Would you like me to post that too, or do you care to shut up right now? |
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Charles wrote:
http://www.psp.gov.ab.ca/index.cfm?p...act/index.html BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Neither one of us live in Alberta, Canada! You are one dumb ****. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: http://www.psp.gov.ab.ca/index.cfm?p...act/index.html BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Neither one of us live in Alberta, Canada! You are one dumb ****. See, there you go digging your own grave. How do you know where I legally live? God, but you are stupid. |
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Charles wrote:
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message .. . Charles wrote: http://www.psp.gov.ab.ca/index.cfm?p...act/index.html BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Neither one of us live in Alberta, Canada! You are one dumb ****. See, there you go digging your own grave. How do you know where I legally live? God, but you are stupid. Public record. You've done well.. You must not have always been stupid. http://www.collierappraiser.com/reco...00052250002000 What did you pay for that death house? I hope it was less than $250,000, or you were taken. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: "Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message . .. Charles wrote: http://www.psp.gov.ab.ca/index.cfm?p...act/index.html BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Neither one of us live in Alberta, Canada! You are one dumb ****. See, there you go digging your own grave. How do you know where I legally live? God, but you are stupid. Public record. You've done well.. You must not have always been stupid. http://www.collierappraiser.com/reco...00052250002000 What did you pay for that death house? I hope it was less than $250,000, or you were taken. Just go away. You know nothing about me and you never will and litigation against your dispersal of my personal information is a good possibility. It is being pursued, as I type this. Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. |
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Charles wrote:
.. Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. Blow me. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: . Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. Blow me. Junior high school behavior. |
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"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: . Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. Blow me. Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!ne wsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica. de!news.germany.com!newsfeed.datemas.de!news.datem as.de!not-for-mail From: Clancy Wiggum Newsgroups: alt.home.repair Subject: Outdoor Flood Lights-Juice but no Light Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:00:11 -0500 Organization: Datemas.de http://www.datemas.de Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Newsgroup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.datemas.de eAAzavUweILDWcZfqzLBIcVnxRaYqlCjEJygVSmElZSrO+bGEB AGTkYymAWZFB3/Rld2I8y6w+Rf/HiDNFrXdPNQQ8MKKllzIetZr/OdU3EwdNpnr9lQSathc0UncrJ3i2t082twdt7Ok5phVabH9O3f fWOQhYJ77KWA1SG7uEE= X-Complaints-To: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:00:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Xref: number1.nntp.dca.giganews.com alt.home.repair:972574 |
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Charles wrote:
Path: border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!n ewsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!storethat.news.telefonica.de!telefonica. de!news.germany.com!newsfeed.datemas.de!news.datem as.de!not-for-mail Way to go ace. LOL!! |
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Charles wrote:
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message .. . Charles wrote: . Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. Blow me. Junior high school behavior. Yup... you reap what you sow. What's next, Colombo? |
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In article , "Charles" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message .net... In article , says... Just like you respected Clancy's, huh? Sorry Dougie; did not know that you are his champion. Since you are, check his rude and tasteless response to my response which was NOT to him. You ought to rein that boy in ... or at least teach him about civilized behavior. He can write whatever he damn pleases as far as I'm concerned. My only intent in making that comment was to highlight your hypocrisy in criticizing others for the same behavior you exhibit yourself. As to the rest of your drivel, it matters not if it is a 240-V lighting system ... everybody here has been ASS-suming a lot. Actually, it matters quite a bit. I haven't seen anything in your posts yet that would lead me to expect that you might actually realize that, though. I have no interest in your drivel, so let's ignore each other LOL -- In other words, you want to be able to continue to post useless crap, and not be called on it. Doesn't work that way, Chuckie -- you post useless crap, and somebody is sure to call you on it. If you don't like being called on it, the solution is simple: stop posting useless crap. ... (and not stalk each other ... case in point: your crap response about the paper shredder). Oh, that was *you*? ROTFLMAO!! I hadn't even paid any attention to who posted it. Figures, though. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Clancy Wiggum wrote:
Charles wrote: "Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message . .. Charles wrote: . Sad that you have to resort to this kind of behavior when just losing a simple argument. Why do you have to be so nasty? Payback is around the corner. Blow me. Junior high school behavior. Yup... you reap what you sow. What's next, Colombo? Hey Corky, you are notably silent. What's up? I hope there is no need to disclose the deed agreement on your home, it may have some numbers on it. That would be bad, huh? I expect you will apologize for your misdeeds... soon. I really don't like being called names, so I expect you to write back that Clancy Wiggum is your Master. Say it. |
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Hey Corky, you are notably silent. What's up? I hope there is no need to disclose the deed agreement on your home, it may have some numbers on it. That would be bad, huh? I expect you will apologize for your misdeeds... soon. I really don't like being called names, so I expect you to write back that Clancy Wiggum is your Master. You are really pushing. You better be careful with your threats. Gee, I'd like to meet you eye to eye and man to man. |
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Outdoor Flood Lights-Juice but no Light
Charles wrote:
Hey Corky, you are notably silent. What's up? I hope there is no need to disclose the deed agreement on your home, it may have some numbers on it. That would be bad, huh? I expect you will apologize for your misdeeds... soon. I really don't like being called names, so I expect you to write back that Clancy Wiggum is your Master. You are really pushing. You better be careful with your threats. Gee, I'd like to meet you eye to eye and man to man. I am your master, you are my bitch! Say it fool. Say you are my bitch! |
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Outdoor Flood Lights-Juice but no Light
Why do think you have a right of privacy? You provided your name, and Google provided the rest. Sue Google, guess what - genius, there is way more public info available about you. Would you like me to post that too, or do you care to shut up right now? Do as like and so will I. Germany is close enough. |
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Outdoor Flood Lights-Juice but no Light
"Clancy Wiggum" wrote in message ... Charles wrote: Hey Corky, you are notably silent. What's up? I hope there is no need to disclose the deed agreement on your home, it may have some numbers on it. That would be bad, huh? I expect you will apologize for your misdeeds... soon. I really don't like being called names, so I expect you to write back that Clancy Wiggum is your Master. You are really pushing. You better be careful with your threats. Gee, I'd like to meet you eye to eye and man to man. I am your master, you are my bitch! Say it fool. Say you are my bitch! Your time is coming and it is sooner than you think. Sleep well. |
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