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DIY store IDJITS!
I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or
Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve |
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"steve" wrote in message
oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve You can thank Mr.Bob Nardelli, HD's current CEO for that. Back when Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus ran it, the aisles were filled with tradespeople who knew their stuff-- plumbers, electricians, carpenters. Since Nardelli took over, he fired all the knowledgeable people to save money and put one former burger flipper in every three aisles. That's his ideas of how to run a retail business-- I think he knows zip, zero, nada. What can you expect from a guy who came from GE. I guess he knows all about how to manufacture railroad locomotives, jet engines and refrigerators though. |
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steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Well, if you want knowledgeable service, shop at a store that hires them. Clue, it ain't the big box stores...oh, right, everybody shops at the big boxes due to the cheap prices thus running the good shops out of business and then complain about the poor service. Harry K |
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"steve" wrote in message oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) Yes, it is a simple one question test. Q. Will you work for $7.50 and hour and work nights, holidays and weekends? If you answer "yes" report to the store manager for your assignment. Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Ah, yes. You know the old saying "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice , , , , , ," Real hardware stores may or may not be better, but a plumbing supply house certainly would have been. Time to find better, more reliable sources. |
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steve wrote:
I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I'm guessing they do, and if you do not come in in the bottom 10%, no job for you. (Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) .... The problem as I see it is that these stores are becoming understaffed and many to most of the staff lack creoo-department knowledge and problem-solving skills. My HD (Ellicott City, MD) has more "know" people than "no clue" people, you just have to keep track of who's who. Plumbing is the worst area in all stores because you really want someone who is a plumber and they can make a lot more money plumbing than they can make clerking! That is one of the reasons DIY stores are a great workplace for disabled tradesmen - they can really add value to any project. Dick |
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"steve" wrote in message oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve As a contractor and an occasional do-it-yourselfer I rarely send someone else for materials. When I do it is only after I have called in the order and verified the availability. Materials are too important for a job and should not be taken lightly. I shop around for the best prices and that usually means going to more than one supply house or home center to complete my list. Sometimes I have customers offer to go buy materials thinking that they will save money. Although I cringe at the thought, I will give them a detailed written list, tell them where to go, give them a few days to make the purchases, and they always come back with an incomplete package. When it comes to materials, you need to do it yourself. It is common knowledge that the employees of big chain stores are hit and miss as to their degree of expertise, attitude, and customer service skills. You just cannot count on someone qualified to be there to help you. Unfortunately shopping for materials is time consuming, but I consider it part of the planning process. A great deal of planning that is done at the beginning can be a big timesaver during the progress of the project. It always hurts if you need to stop in the middle of a job to run out and get materials. |
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steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve It happens that I spoke with an old friend two days ago. He's an ex rigger, ex construction generalist who I use for small repairs. He works in the lumber department of a Lowes, was "promoted" to manager and asked to be demoted after three months. When he doesn't know the answer to a customer's question, he calls an ex boss for information. His current shift is 3:00 AM to Noon. He notes that of all the local Lowes, his is the only one that passed a recent inspection. Folks from his store were sent to other stores to work with staff. The staff who were supposed to be learning from him actually walked away when they saw a customer coming. TB |
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"Real hardware stores may or may not be better, but a plumbing supply house certainly would have been." Maybe, but they often have a 2 tiered pricing scheme, one for contractors and one for DIYers. If they can sell a contractor a hand full of tees for $XX, why charge me $XX + 40%? I don't go there except to fill large orders, and when I do I am treated like a second classed citizen. From my viewpoint, their business model is out dated, and they deserve to go out of business to someone who gives contractor prices to anyone who walks in. I'd rather get raped by bad service than overcharging, it is just sad that I must make a choice. |
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"Eric in North TX" wrote in message ups.com... "Real hardware stores may or may not be better, but a plumbing supply house certainly would have been." Maybe, but they often have a 2 tiered pricing scheme, one for contractors and one for DIYers. If they can sell a contractor a hand full of tees for $XX, why charge me $XX + 40%? I don't go there except to fill large orders, and when I do I am treated like a second classed citizen. From my viewpoint, their business model is out dated, and they deserve to go out of business to someone who gives contractor prices to anyone who walks in. I'd rather get raped by bad service than overcharging, it is just sad that I must make a choice. Then don't complain about hte 35 mile trip to Lowes to get the wrong parts. Add 40% to what you paid, plus the time and inconvenience and see just how far ahead you are. There are a few supply houses that treat the DIY second class, but there are a lot of DIY that treat the counter help the same way. |
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"Maker of Rules" alan@net wrote in message news "steve" wrote in message oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you.SNIPS "Maker of Rules" wrote: You can thank Mr.Bob Nardelli, HD's current CEO for that. Back when Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus ran it, the aisles were filled with tradespeople who knew their stuff-- plumbers, electricians, carpenters. Since Nardelli took over, he fired all the knowledgeable people to save money and put one former burger flipper in every three aisles. That's his ideas of how to run a retail business-- I think he knows zip, zero, nada. What can you expect from a guy who came from GE. I guess he knows all about how to manufacture railroad locomotives, jet engines and refrigerators though. And you must be one of the burger flippers, right? Botttom 10 % The OP specified Loews, not HD in his post. Try to apply a little reading comprehension before unleashing your ignorance here. Or, being in the bottom 10% are you incapable of reading? -- Jim McLaughlin Reply address is deliberately munged. If you really need to reply directly, try: jimdotmclaughlinatcomcastdotcom And you know it is a dotnet not a dotcom address. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message . com... "Eric in North TX" wrote in message ups.com... "Real hardware stores may or may not be better, but a plumbing supply house certainly would have been." Maybe, but they often have a 2 tiered pricing scheme, one for contractors and one for DIYers. If they can sell a contractor a hand full of tees for $XX, why charge me $XX + 40%? I don't go there except to fill large orders, and when I do I am treated like a second classed citizen. From my viewpoint, their business model is out dated, and they deserve to go out of business to someone who gives contractor prices to anyone who walks in. I'd rather get raped by bad service than overcharging, it is just sad that I must make a choice. Then don't complain about hte 35 mile trip to Lowes to get the wrong parts. Add 40% to what you paid, plus the time and inconvenience and see just how far ahead you are. There are a few supply houses that treat the DIY second class, but there are a lot of DIY that treat the counter help the same way. At least I won't be insulted by someone whose skill level is so high that he is working as a parts counter man. You know, the one who thinks I can't buy a gallon of sealant, self tapping screws, or a R&R sensor without being a contractor or "industry certified." And then being so stupid that I don't know the same items are half that price anywhere else. Steve |
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"Jim McLaughlin" jim.mclaughlin wrote in message
... "Maker of Rules" alan@net wrote in message news "steve" wrote in message oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you.SNIPS "Maker of Rules" wrote: You can thank Mr.Bob Nardelli, HD's current CEO for that. Back when Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus ran it, the aisles were filled with tradespeople who knew their stuff-- plumbers, electricians, carpenters. Since Nardelli took over, he fired all the knowledgeable people to save money and put one former burger flipper in every three aisles. That's his ideas of how to run a retail business-- I think he knows zip, zero, nada. What can you expect from a guy who came from GE. I guess he knows all about how to manufacture railroad locomotives, jet engines and refrigerators though. And you must be one of the burger flippers, right? Botttom 10 % The OP specified Loews, not HD in his post. Try to apply a little reading comprehension before unleashing your ignorance here. Or, being in the bottom 10% are you incapable of reading? -- Jim McLaughlin Re-read the OP Jimmie boy-- it starts out talking about both Lowes and HD while the particular incident the OP related happened at Lowes. It is clear that his comment applies to both. Are you so literal minded with so little ability to exercise critical thinking, generalize and abstract that you missed his original point-- and my response? What percentile does that put you at my lad? |
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And, so, you just took their word (wife, and the store guy) that they
got the right parts. Didn't check until the exact instant you wanted to start work. I'd like to nominate Steve for the Idjit award. Ladies and gentlemen of the news group, do I have a second for my nomination? -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "steve" wrote in message oups.com... Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay......... Oh well Take care ya'll Steve |
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Yep, I know what you mean about customer supplied parts. They think
they can save two dollars, or they think they are "helping". And the part is wrong, or whatever. Very often they want you to share all your years of exprience to tell them what to look for, or what to avoid. And then at the end they want a discount cause they "helped". And if you give em enough wisdom and pointers, they just get the holesaw, or whatever, at the big box store, and do the job themselves. Which is what they planned, all along. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "John Grabowski" wrote in message ... Sometimes I have customers offer to go buy materials thinking that they will save money. Although I cringe at the thought, I will give them a detailed written list, tell them where to go, give them a few days to make the purchases, and they always come back with an incomplete package. When it comes to materials, you need to do it yourself. It is common knowledge that the employees of big chain stores are hit and miss as to their degree of expertise, attitude, and customer service skills. You just cannot count on someone qualified to be there to help you. Unfortunately shopping for materials is time consuming, but I consider it part of the planning process. A great deal of planning that is done at the beginning can be a big timesaver during the progress of the project. It always hurts if you need to stop in the middle of a job to run out and get materials. |
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I agree that it is you with the problem, not the store. Why in the world would you even entertain the idea that these guys are anything but untrained sales clerks? They did their job perfectly - they sold an idiot a part, just like they were supposed to. If you want expert advice, call the experts. Licensed journeyment are trained. On 4 Jul 2006 05:34:49 -0700, "steve" wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve |
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"Then don't complain about hte 35 mile trip to Lowes to get the wrong parts." I don't; a: usually get the wrong parts b: travel more than 5 miles c: need that much help in the first place. |
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I needed some sweat on copper fittings, so went to HD. I found them, and
got a "contractor pack" of ten or so in a sealed plastic bag. But I needed 15, so I got five loose ones. I got up to the checkout lane, and there weren't any bar codes on the individuals. I said just to figure out how much they were by the price for the bag and dividing by ten. She looked as if I had asked her to perform oral sex or a complicated calculus operation. She called for the manager. The line piled up. She called for the manager. The line got longer. People were starting to talk. I said, for Chrissake, charge me for a bag. Said she couldn't scan an item twice. Against company policy and she would lose her job. We waited longer. After about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $250 in merchandise sitting there. Steve |
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time to visit www.homedepotsucks.org
"steve" wrote in message oups.com... I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve |
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We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the fittings I saw
has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. Bahahaha... Have you ever actually checked the contents of these well marked bins? More often than not they contain a mix of all the stuff found in that aisle. The smaller the part, the more mixed up it is. |
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Harry K wrote: steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Well, if you want knowledgeable service, shop at a store that hires them. Clue, it ain't the big box stores...oh, right, everybody shops at the big boxes due to the cheap prices thus running the good shops out of business and then complain about the poor service. I don't give a woohoo about the prices, the only reason I go to HD or Lowes is the giant stock. As much as I appreciate the local hardware store and am more than willing to pay extra, the chances that I can get a 7 millimeter widget with left hand thread, stainless steel, that I need to get the bathroom functional again on Saturday night is pretty low. Of course, I find myself wandering from one HD/Lowes to another these days, since many of them are out of stock on all the esoteric stuff and many of the smaller neighborhood strip mall stores just don't stock them at all. Harry K |
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steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Went to help a friend, female, who wanted to put some shelves up in a closet for the kiddies' toys, about 18" wide by a foot front to back. HD set her up with slabs of 3/4 inch plywood, shelf brackets with arms 12" by 18", and 1/4" toggle bolts. By the time I got there, the wall was already perforated with giant holes for the toggle bolts, which were pulling through the wallboard from behind, just from the weight of the plywood and brackets. |
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We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the
fittings I saw has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. Bahahaha... Have you ever actually checked the contents of these well marked bins? More often than not they contain a mix of all the stuff found in that aisle. The smaller the part, the more mixed up it is. At Loew's I always have all my items priced at the register before I take out my cash or card. Otherwise they make you "return" the high priced (stainless steel etc) stuff that got mixed in with the cheap stuff. |
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"Tony Hwang" wrote in message news:dbHqg.121120$Mn5.99640@pd7tw3no... steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Hi, We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the fittings I saw has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. That's kind of what I was thinking. Besides, there's a big size difference between 1", 3/4", and 1/2" pipe. Not trying to diss the wife in question, but I've personally never had a problem differentiating between fitting sizes. I go to the Home Despot and Lowe's because they have people who are knowledgable about what they STOCK, not for advice on what to buy. |
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Stormin Mormon posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. I'd like to nominate Stormy for the Idjit award. Ladies and gentlemen of the news group, do I have a second for my nomination? Vote for the sure winner Stumped Moron. -- Tekkie |
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Tony Hwang posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Hi, We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the fittings I saw has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. Dat's nize but once again your posts help no one. -- Tekkie |
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z wrote: Harry K wrote: steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Well, if you want knowledgeable service, shop at a store that hires them. Clue, it ain't the big box stores...oh, right, everybody shops at the big boxes due to the cheap prices thus running the good shops out of business and then complain about the poor service. I don't give a woohoo about the prices, the only reason I go to HD or Lowes is the giant stock. As much as I appreciate the local hardware store and am more than willing to pay extra, the chances that I can get a 7 millimeter widget with left hand thread, stainless steel, that I need to get the bathroom functional again on Saturday night is pretty low. Of course, I find myself wandering from one HD/Lowes to another these days, since many of them are out of stock on all the esoteric stuff and many of the smaller neighborhood strip mall stores just don't stock them at all. Harry K Good point. I do the same but I don't complain about poor service. Harry K |
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news:s2Rqg.124582$Mn5.30113@pd7tw3no: We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the fittings I saw has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. Bahahaha... Have you ever actually checked the contents of these well marked bins? More often than not they contain a mix of all the stuff found in that aisle. The smaller the part, the more mixed up it is. Have you ever watch the customers (no I don't work there) grab something, look at it then just throw it back wherever? I was in HD the other day. Woman comes up to me and asks is this what I have to get to put on top of the tape on the walls to fix it? I don't know why people keep choosing me to ask stuff. I don't have an orange thingy on nor wear orange anything. She had a bucket of thinset in her hand mind you. I'm like no. You need drywall mud. It's over in that corner of the store against the wall. She bends forward, puts the bucket on the floor in front of her on the floor in the aisle and walks away towards where I described. I guess she could have not bent over and just dropped it. That's how **** gets mixed up. Think what kind of havoc she would raise in the plumbing section! I hope she spent an hour looking for the bucket that said Drywall Mud. If I had known she was going to just leave that thinset in the aisle where she stood I would have told her to use roofing cement. |
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news:14zqg.105611$iU2.75227@fed1read01: I needed some sweat on copper fittings, so went to HD. I found them, and got a "contractor pack" of ten or so in a sealed plastic bag. But I needed 15, so I got five loose ones. I got up to the checkout lane, and there weren't any bar codes on the individuals. I said just to figure out how much they were by the price for the bag and dividing by ten. She looked as if I had asked her to perform oral sex or a complicated calculus operation. She called for the manager. The line piled up. She called for the manager. The line got longer. People were starting to talk. I said, for Chrissake, charge me for a bag. Said she couldn't scan an item twice. Against company policy and she would lose her job. We waited longer. After about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $250 in merchandise sitting there. Steve I went to Lowes a few days back and returned something on the way in. It was 9.64 total. She opens the drawer and says she got no change. She calls someplace. Wait, wait, wait. Calls again, wait, someone shows. Says to her what do you want. She says change. He tells her he will have to get the safe opened to get it. Line grows....and grows. So I says to her you got a 10 dollar bill. She says yes. I says gimme that and I'll give you 36 cents. She says she can't do that because the register won't come out right later. I'm like huh? WTF. |
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"steve" wrote in news:1152016488.469528.109070
@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve I go to HD a lot. I learned the people who really know stuff, aka they really have done stuff. They do it professionally during the day or before leaving the line of work. These you seek out if you need some info. You get to know them and they get to know you. Some are extremely knowledgeable. The high rotation faces you skip. Then the other side of the coin. I bring a coupling in that needs an o- ring. I was just gonna look til I found it. Wasn't sure if it was with the pressure washers or just general plumbing. So Mr. You can Do It, We Can Help approaches and ask what I need. I says an o-ring for this. Figure save me the time of hunting for it. He grabs a pack of assorted FLAT sink washers and hands it to me. Must be what he hands people no matter what they need. I'm thinking woa put this one out with the plants and bags of ****. I says thanks. He walks away. I find o-rings. |
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Noozer wrote:
We don't have Lowes here but HD and Rona(Canadian). All the fittings I saw has little sticker attached to it with description and UPC code. And all the boxes on the shelf holding them are clearly marked what it contains. Bahahaha... Have you ever actually checked the contents of these well marked bins? More often than not they contain a mix of all the stuff found in that aisle. The smaller the part, the more mixed up it is. Hi, That's some of us customers doing. Not putting things back into right bins after looking at them. They only think themselves, selfish slobs. Same kind of human beings who don't pick after their beloved dog. I see them all the time out walking my dog. There is 250.00 fine for that but they still do. |
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z wrote:
steve wrote: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve Went to help a friend, female, who wanted to put some shelves up in a closet for the kiddies' toys, about 18" wide by a foot front to back. HD set her up with slabs of 3/4 inch plywood, shelf brackets with arms 12" by 18", and 1/4" toggle bolts. By the time I got there, the wall was already perforated with giant holes for the toggle bolts, which were pulling through the wallboard from behind, just from the weight of the plywood and brackets. Hi, I am laughing out loud, sorry. Feel really sorry for her! |
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Their all a bunch of dim bulbs over at GE.
You can thank Mr.Bob Nardelli, HD's current CEO for that. Back when Arthur Blank and Bernie Marcus ran it, the aisles were filled with tradespeople who knew their stuff-- plumbers, electricians, carpenters. Since Nardelli took over, he fired all the knowledgeable people to save money and put one former burger flipper in every three aisles. That's his ideas of how to run a retail business-- I think he knows zip, zero, nada. What can you expect from a guy who came from GE. I guess he knows all about how to manufacture railroad locomotives, jet engines and refrigerators though. |
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Al Bundy wrote in
: "steve" wrote in news:1152016488.469528.109070 @h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: I gotta ask, do they have a mandatory IQ test to get a job at Lowes or Home Depot?? I]m guessing they do, and if you do not come in , in the bottom 10% no job for you. ( Apologies to DIY store folks reading who actually know what they are doing) During a big remodel project, I send the wife to Lowes to get either a reducing T (3/4-3/4 to 1/2" CPVC) or a reducing bushing, or a reducing coupling. I need probably 20 of these. Well, the wife who is pretty astute with most aspects of DIY stuff except plumbing............comes back with a bag full of stuff NOT my 1st choice of the reducing T's but stuff that will get me from 3/4 to 1/2". Being in the middle of anther aspect of the remodel I shelved the bag to use later. Well, last nite is "later" I got the bag out, opened it up.............much to my surprise/dismay.........the bag is full of 1"-3/4 " reducing stuff. Now, I distinctly remember the wife calling to ask specific sizes when the Lowes idjit was trying to put the needed plumbing bits together, she had specifically asked for 3/4" to 1/2" reducing stuff, had showed the idjit the sizes , and even the drawing in her notebook........and he kept assuring her that what he put together was what she needed. I just have to wonder........"WHY" ? Why would the idjit do that, unless he was simply.............an Idjit? This wasn't a kid either, it was an adult middle aged man. Of course, I guess I just answered my own question right?? If he is working at Lowes at 45-50 years old............ Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Oh well Take care ya'll Steve I go to HD a lot. I learned the people who really know stuff, aka they really have done stuff. They do it professionally during the day or before leaving the line of work. These you seek out if you need some info. You get to know them and they get to know you. Some are extremely knowledgeable. The high rotation faces you skip. Then the other side of the coin. I bring a coupling in that needs an o- ring. I was just gonna look til I found it. Wasn't sure if it was with the pressure washers or just general plumbing. So Mr. You can Do It, We Can Help approaches and ask what I need. I says an o-ring for this. Figure save me the time of hunting for it. He grabs a pack of assorted FLAT sink washers and hands it to me. Must be what he hands people no matter what they need. I'm thinking woa put this one out with the plants and bags of ****. I says thanks. He walks away. I find o-rings. Although I like HD, they get an Aw-**** from my last trip. Putting up new shelving in a large closet. I had one shelf bracket with a hanger rod loop. Standard 10-12" bracket. ------------ | / | | | / -- | / | / |/ | Get everything set mounting. On a HD trip I pick up two more brackets. Only 3 bucks a piece, Std white painted metal. Shelf all cut and fitted on side wall supports. Put new brackets up. The front of the shelf is touching the end of the bracket but where shelf meets wall there is a decent gap. Premounted shelf with levels and square. I check wall to perpendicular shelf with a framing square again. Fine. Besides. The one shelf bracket I had fit fine. Could that bracket be messed up? Checked with framing square. Fine. I check the two I just bought.The damn things are not 90 degrees. Pretty sad that a simple fixed shelf bracket is not 90 degrees. This I would expect from WalMart. |
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On 4 Jul 2006 05:34:49 -0700, "steve" wrote:
Ok, sorry to blow off, but this is not the 1st time this has happened at the big 2 DIY stores ( both of which are a 35 mile round trip from me). I guess my own intelligence should be questioned too, as far as why I keep going there. Weeelll. If you suspect the hired help aint up to expectations how about providing a sketch of the parts so that both your wife and the store clerk have a pretty good idea of exactly what you want. |
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 12:11:57 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: She called for the manager. The line piled up. She called for the manager. The line got longer. People were starting to talk. I said, for Chrissake, charge me for a bag. Said she couldn't scan an item twice. Against company policy and she would lose her job. We waited longer. After about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $250 in merchandise sitting there. Steve In this time and day when small video cameras are so cheap and easy to install it should be easy enough to install one or more (close up + overview) at every checkout counter. The manager can then go to a cash register terminal anywhere in the store, get the picture and make a decision. He/she should be able to make an electronic approval too from his remote terminal. |
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On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 05:12:12 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:
Hi, That's some of us customers doing. Not putting things back into right bins after looking at them. They only think themselves, selfish slobs. Same kind of human beings who don't pick after their beloved dog. I see them all the time out walking my dog. There is 250.00 fine for that but they still do. That only hardware. Wait till you see the spoilage in the grocery stores. |
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"Al Bundy" wrote in message Could that bracket be messed up? Checked with framing square. Fine. I check the two I just bought.The damn things are not 90 degrees. Pretty sad that a simple fixed shelf bracket is not 90 degrees. This I would expect from WalMart. Why? The both buy from the cheapest suppliers and do everything they can to drive prices down. Could have even been damage from shipping. Consumes expect low prices, but they forget they are giving up something to get it. |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 12:11:57 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: She called for the manager. The line piled up. She called for the manager. The line got longer. People were starting to talk. I said, for Chrissake, charge me for a bag. Said she couldn't scan an item twice. Against company policy and she would lose her job. We waited longer. After about ten minutes, I walked out, leaving about $250 in merchandise sitting there. Steve In this time and day when small video cameras are so cheap and easy to install it should be easy enough to install one or more (close up + overview) at every checkout counter. The manager can then go to a cash register terminal anywhere in the store, get the picture and make a decision. He/she should be able to make an electronic approval too from his remote terminal. That's a really good idea. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in news:KTtrg.8$hb3.3@trndny04:
"Al Bundy" wrote in message Could that bracket be messed up? Checked with framing square. Fine. I check the two I just bought.The damn things are not 90 degrees. Pretty sad that a simple fixed shelf bracket is not 90 degrees. This I would expect from WalMart. Why? The both buy from the cheapest suppliers and do everything they can to drive prices down. Could have even been damage from shipping. Consumes expect low prices, but they forget they are giving up something to get it. You are absolutely correct but did not look damaged at all. Both pieces exactly the same. Stopped by Blue Big Box. Ones I got there were square, a buck cheaper and flimsier. Further support for your statement. |
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