I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

"Dr.John" wrote in message
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I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

generally if there is a way to turn on a light that is all that is required.

You will need recpts 12 feet apart for the area.

Not sure if MA has any special additions. Call the "authority" and ask on
Monday.
You could always check your cities web page.

"Dr.John" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

What makes you ask a question like this? Unless there is something you are
not telling us, there is certainly no requirement to have outlets on
lighting circuits.
What makes you spell receptacle that ?

And finally, you are aware the outlets have to be GFCI aren't you?

Dr.John wrote:
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

That's the usual case. The switched receptacle is in lieu of a
switched ceiling outlet.

R

And finally, you are aware the outlets have to be GFCI aren't you?


Is this a code change I'm not aware of? Unless something has changed, only
outlets in "unfinished" parts of the basement have to be GFCI protected




"Toller" wrote in message
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"Dr.John" wrote in message
ps.com...
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

What makes you ask a question like this? Unless there is something you
are not telling us, there is certainly no requirement to have outlets on
lighting circuits.
What makes you spell receptacle that ?

And finally, you are aware the outlets have to be GFCI aren't you?

In article om, "Dr.John" wrote:
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

You have the Code requirements turned around.

The requirement is for a minimum of one switched "lighting outlet" (e.g. an
overhead light fixture) per room, but (except in kitchens and bathrooms) one
or more switched wall receptacles may be used in lieu of a dedicated lighting
outlet. IOW -- Code never requires switched receptacles, but allows them in
place of otherwise-required overhead lighting.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article , "Toller" wrote:

"Dr.John" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

What makes you ask a question like this? Unless there is something you are
not telling us, there is certainly no requirement to have outlets on
lighting circuits.
What makes you spell receptacle that ?

And finally, you are aware the outlets have to be GFCI aren't you?

Not in a finished basement, they don't. Probably prudent anyway, but not a
Code requirement.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
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And finally, you are aware the outlets have to be GFCI aren't you?


Is this a code change I'm not aware of? Unless something has changed, only
outlets in "unfinished" parts of the basement have to be GFCI protected

No, you are correct; sorry.
But isn't that a bit strange? Why would they be required in unfinished, but
not finished? Better insulation on the floor?

When I remodel I install extra wall receptables, they are pretty cheap,
and dont forget pre wiring for sat, cable or ethernet.

easiest time to do this stuff is when wall is open.

On 3/5/06 5:47 PM, in article , "Toller"
wrote:

Is this a code change I'm not aware of? Unless something has changed, only
outlets in "unfinished" parts of the basement have to be GFCI protected

No, you are correct; sorry.
But isn't that a bit strange? Why would they be required in unfinished, but
not finished? Better insulation on the floor?

Presumably because an unfinished basement is more likely to have water on
the floor, and a finished basement probably implemented measures to prevent
this..

wrote:
When I remodel I install extra wall receptables, they are pretty cheap,
and dont forget pre wiring for sat, cable or ethernet.

easiest time to do this stuff is when wall is open.

Same here. I added an 18x30 addition and specified ouitlets every 8
ft. Mistake. I should have specified two circuits and no farther than
6 ft.

Harry K

In article . com,
says...
Dr.John wrote:
I'm located in the US/MA. Finishing off a basement room and adding a
couple of circuits. I will have overhead recessed lighting wired to a
switch on the wall at the door entrance. Do I still need to have a
wall receptical wired to the switch, or does the fact that the
overheads are switched cover this?

That's the usual case. The switched receptacle is in lieu of a
switched ceiling outlet.

The receptacles in our current house are split top/bottom. The
tops in every room (except kitchen) are switched and the bottoms
aren't. I'm sure it's a bit more expensive to do this but it is
nice; highly recommended.

--
Keith

) said...

When I remodel I install extra wall receptables, they are pretty cheap,
and dont forget pre wiring for sat, cable or ethernet.

easiest time to do this stuff is when wall is open.

Even better: install conduit.

When we built our home, we had "media outlets" in every room with conduit
home runs to a cabinet in the basement. The cabinet has the sattellite feeds,
and telephone line coming into it and houses a DSL modem and router.

When we need to add something to a room (phone, ethernet, coax, speaker wire)
it is a simple job. The conduit was a small extra cost and I didn't have to
guess what might be needed where - you always end up paying for too much
cable in some places and end up with not quite enough somewhere else.

--
Calvin Henry-Cotnam
"I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible"
- Paul Martin - April 30, 2003
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