I have a 25 year old 33,000 gallon inground pool that is in need of
painting, needs some tiles replaced and has some cracks between the
coping and the tiles. Most companies want to acid wash, paint and
replace the tile and coping but one company wants to remove the tiles
and place a 1/8 inch fiberglass coating over the gunite, old tile line
and the coping.

Has anyone heard of this process and have any experiences (good or bad)
with it?

"Stuart Benoff" wrote in message
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I have a 25 year old 33,000 gallon inground pool that is in need of
painting, needs some tiles replaced and has some cracks between the
coping and the tiles. Most companies want to acid wash, paint and
replace the tile and coping but one company wants to remove the tiles
and place a 1/8 inch fiberglass coating over the gunite, old tile line
and the coping.

Has anyone heard of this process and have any experiences (good or bad)
with it?

25 year old pool, time to remove and replaster/tile. Painting will not last

No clue on how the fiberglass will hold up.

Stuart Benoff writes:

Has anyone heard of this process and have any experiences (good or bad)
with it?

You mean fiberglass embedded in epoxy. Lasts about seven years in
immersion before it gets ugly and/or delaminates. (Remember
chattahoochee?)

Stuart Benoff writes:

Has anyone heard of this process and have any experiences (good or bad)
with it?



For the seller, it is an excellent way to make money. For the buyer, it
don't work.

Steve

You mean fiberglass embedded in epoxy. Lasts about seven years in
immersion before it gets ugly and/or delaminates. (Remember
chattahoochee?)


Exactly. They use a fiberglass material and attach it to the existing
plaster (after roughing it up) using an epoxy. Then apply several coats
of a fiberglass resin, sand it smooth and apply a final clear/gloss
coat. They recommend removing the tiles and putting the fiberglass
right over the coping. This way, there are no gaps to crack or for water
to get in to. It also has a lifetime warranty against cracks and
leaks. Don't get me wrong - I'm not for it - just exploring the
options before diving in (pardon the pun). It's a pretty expensive
process but I'm just starting to get prices for plastering, tiling and
coping so I'm not sure how to compare it yet.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts.

"Stuart Benoff" wrote
It's a pretty expensive
process but I'm just starting to get prices for plastering, tiling and
coping so I'm not sure how to compare it yet.

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts.

I got my 33,000 gallon in ground pool replastered two years ago. It was
$3,000. They came one morning at 7 AM. There was a crew of about 15 guys.
They chipped the old plaster out with air chisels, hauled it off, and were
gone by noon. The next day, they came at 7 AM again, and started shooting.
They left by noon, and left two guys to finish. We started adding water at
3 PM.

The pool was empty for less than 48 hours. It looks beautiful still.

The best $3,000 I ever spent.

Don't dick around with experimental things. Have it done the old fashioned
way by a reputable pool replasterer. You will notice the difference seven
years down the road when the fiberglass starts to deteriorate from the sun.

And then you will have to pay more to have someone come in and wreck it out
and do it right.

Do it once. Do it right.

Steve

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At this point I'd be very happy with paying $3K although you're not
including new tile and coping but I agree with doing it right the first
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I got my 33,000 gallon in ground pool replastered two years ago. It was
$3,000. They came one morning at 7 AM. There was a crew of about 15 guys.
They chipped the old plaster out with air chisels, hauled it off, and were
gone by noon. The next day, they came at 7 AM again, and started shooting.
They left by noon, and left two guys to finish. We started adding water at
3 PM.

The pool was empty for less than 48 hours. It looks beautiful still.

The best $3,000 I ever spent.

Don't dick around with experimental things. Have it done the old fashioned
way by a reputable pool replasterer. You will notice the difference seven
years down the road when the fiberglass starts to deteriorate from the sun.

And then you will have to pay more to have someone come in and wreck it out
and do it right.

Do it once. Do it right.

Steve


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"Stuart Benoff" wrote in message
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Steve,

At this point I'd be very happy with paying $3K although you're not
including new tile and coping but I agree with doing it right the first
time. How long do you expect your new plaster to last?

Stu


We had a company that has been in business for 30 years do it. He said it
lasts about twenty years depending on the way you keep up with the chemicals
in the pool, algae control, etc.

The pool was originally built in '85, so that job lasted 18 years. I think
they use a little better "stuff" now, and with the petroleum product
additives, it lasts longer than whatever they had available 25 years ago.

As with anything, check out the companies, and get competitive bids. We had
one guy over that has been in business for a long time. He had a very bad
reputation, but there is so much business out there that he still does a lot
of business. I was just lucky to have a friend who does service work for
the local hotels who put us on to this guy. One guy even put his price on
the back of a business card that had the phone number on the front changed
with a pen.

Yer spending a lot of money, and you want it to last. Do the footwork, and
you won't be sorry.

BTW, now is the time to have all the tile and coping work done. Maybe even
cool decking. I got a killer deal on the pool deck. Again, a referral from
a friend. After two years, we called the guy the other day because we had
some spots coming off. He came and fixed it THE SAME DAY and didn't want
any money. I gave him $50 anyway.

Good luck. In a short time, it's like you have a new pool.

Steve

"Stuart Benoff" wrote in message
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Steve,

At this point I'd be very happy with paying $3K although you're not
including new tile and coping but I agree with doing it right the first
time. How long do you expect your new plaster to last?


I have a pool slightly smaller than SteveB, 40 years old, and it cost
something less than $3,000 for plaster, roughly $1,000 for tiles, and
$1,2000 for coping. I don't remember, exactly, because I also had the whole
pool replumbed, with new skimmer and all new equipment. Anyway, my neighbor
had the fiberglass thing done years ago, and just a few months later they
had it replastered. The fiberglass coating over plaster/concrete thing is
nothing new, and it's as big a rip-off now as it's always been. Avoid it at
all costs.

Painting isn't much better, in most cases. Although some folks have painted
their pools and had good results, most end up having to either remove the
paint, or the plaster, within a few months to a few years, as this stuff
isn't designed to last more than 7 years or so.

New plaster is your best bet, along with some new tile if you can. The
coping can probably be repaired if it's not too bad off.

You might want to take a close look at your plumbing. If it's copper, or it
needs repair which requires cutting up the pool, now is the time to do it.

Pagan

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I'm starting to get prices for this work and now I really wish I could
get the price you mention.  A rep from Anthony came out last week and
they want $20,000 to re-plaster, re-tile and put in new coping.   Of
course, if I agree to do it this fall it's only 18K.   My pool is 880
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I got a second price around $14,000 and this includes $1,100 to empty
the pool.   I'm thinking of renting a pump and doing that myself.  Does
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I have a pool slightly smaller than SteveB, 40 years old, and it cost
something less than $3,000 for plaster, roughly $1,000 for tiles, and
$1,2000 for coping. I don't remember, exactly, because I also had the whole
pool replumbed, with new skimmer and all new equipment. Anyway, my neighbor
had the fiberglass thing done years ago, and just a few months later they
had it replastered. The fiberglass coating over plaster/concrete thing is
nothing new, and it's as big a rip-off now as it's always been. Avoid it at
all costs.

Painting isn't much better, in most cases. Although some folks have painted
their pools and had good results, most end up having to either remove the
paint, or the plaster, within a few months to a few years, as this stuff
isn't designed to last more than 7 years or so.

New plaster is your best bet, along with some new tile if you can. The
coping can probably be repaired if it's not too bad off.

You might want to take a close look at your plumbing. If it's copper, or it
needs repair which requires cutting up the pool, now is the time to do it.

Pagan


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Stuart Benoff wrote:
I have a 25 year old 33,000 gallon inground pool that is in need of
painting, needs some tiles replaced and has some cracks between the
coping and the tiles. Most companies want to acid wash, paint and
replace the tile and coping but one company wants to remove the tiles
and place a 1/8 inch fiberglass coating over the gunite, old tile line
and the coping.

Has anyone heard of this process and have any experiences (good or bad)
with it?

Yes, I have the fiberglass coating on my pool that was applied to the
old plaster finish. The pool is in Arizona and both my neighbor and I
had the pools resurfaced with fiberglass in 1989 (shasta pools did the
fiberglass). My pool is now ready to be resurfaced again, and his is
holding up better, so the fiberglass held out for ~15 years, roughly
the same duration of plaster in the same era her in hardwater
Arizona... The fiberglass is a very maintenance free surface, far
superior to plaster in my opinion, because algae doesn't seem to be
able to attach to it. It is very easy to clean, I treat it just like a
giant bathtub when service draining and cleaning... It cost rought
~3000 to resurface a 15K gallon pool in fiberglass back in 1989...

I am thinking of putting in a pool. I want a fiberglass pool but the cost in So Cal is so much more expensive than a gunite pool. How is your fiberglass holding up? Maybe Ill do a gunite with fiberglass coating.

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:37:19 -0700 (PDT),
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I am thinking of putting in a pool. I want a fiberglass pool but the cost in So Cal is so much more expensive than a gunite pool. How is your fiberglass holding up? Maybe Ill do a gunite with fiberglass coating.

I have a fiberglass spa and the sun killed the finish in about 20-25
years. This is more noticeable in the spa because you are touching it
with your skin tho and the bad finish irritates your skin. It is still
pretty dull looking.

Beware of any fiberglass company that agrees to cover concrete coping
with fiberglass. It indicates they don't know what they're doing, or
they don't plan on being in business for long.

Coping stones move, allowing water to seep-in between the fiberglass
and the concrete coping. This, in turn, allows water to get between the
fiberglass and the wall of the pool. Thus, delamination begins.

This is a major cause of the horror stories about pool resurfacing with
fiberglass.