Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand
we need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be
partially? tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be
yet, so we should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found
I had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my
family room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't
yet painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet.
How much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with
primer once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of
paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

"Melissa" wrote in message
...
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand we
need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be partially?
tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be yet, so we
should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

Usually you will get a tinted primer that the manufacturer says will result
in the truest color after painting. However, if you don't know then white
primer will do. I believe youd use a latex primer for surfaces that will be
painted with latex.


The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found I
had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my family
room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't yet
painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet. How much
primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with primer once,
which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

The paint store should be able to tell you, or the paint can should say.
Always get a little more though.

"Melissa" wrote in message
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand we
need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be partially?
tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be yet, so we
should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

Yes. Tinting is nice b ut not needed.


The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

Latex is OK.


And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct?

Yes.


How much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with
primer once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of
paint?

Check the paint can. It will tell you how much coverage it will give you.
Some say one coat is all that is needed, but it always looks better with
two.

What the others said is true. But also, ...
New drywall takes lots more primer and paint than any fineprint on the can
will tell you. It's hard to get all the shadows to go away. Fresh drywall is
the best excuse for top-quality paint such as from a dedicated paint store
like Sherwin Williams. I think it's easier to get the primer looking
gorgeous and then paint twice with a color, rather than prime once and still
have shadows, then paint with a color 2.5 to three times. The tint that you
might add to primer is good when the final coat will be pretty dark.
=B

"Melissa" wrote in message
...
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand we
need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be partially?
tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be yet, so we
should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found I
had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my family
room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't yet
painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet. How much
primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with primer once,
which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

Exactly! The purpose of the primer is mainly to
seal the wall which will really suck up the paint.
Since primer is cheaper than the final paint, it
is best to get it really sealed so don't skimp on
the primer and then have to put on more final
paint. The final paint sheen makes no difference
to selection of a primer.

If the primer gives only one coverage figure,
e.g., 400 sq ft per gallon, then assume that the
coverage will be only 300 sq ft per gallon for a
porous surface such as fresh wallboard. You
probably need to plan on 3 gallons of primer. And
you probably only need 4-5 gallons for two coats
of the final unless you have a very dark color or
poor quality paint. Personally, I never put on
more than one coat on previously painted walls and
ceilings of similar color, but some times have to
touch up a few spots if I didn't get it well covered.

I am curious how you put on 2.5 coats.


B wrote:
What the others said is true. But also, ...
New drywall takes lots more primer and paint than any fineprint on the can
will tell you. It's hard to get all the shadows to go away. Fresh drywall is
the best excuse for top-quality paint such as from a dedicated paint store
like Sherwin Williams. I think it's easier to get the primer looking
gorgeous and then paint twice with a color, rather than prime once and still
have shadows, then paint with a color 2.5 to three times. The tint that you
might add to primer is good when the final coat will be pretty dark.
=B

"Melissa" wrote in message
...

Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand we
need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be partially?
tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be yet, so we
should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found I
had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my family
room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't yet
painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet. How much
primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with primer once,
which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

Buy a good quality paint and you'll minimize the number of coats of paint
you'll need for good coverage.

No special primer is needed for semi-gloss, again, just buy quality primer.

I think you have 640 square feet
(31+9+31+9) X 8 = 80 X 8 = 640

The paint can label should tell you how many feet of coverage you'll be able
to get per gallon of paint.
Ron

"Melissa" wrote in message
...
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand
we need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be
partially? tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be
yet, so we should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found
I had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my
family room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't
yet painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet.
How much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with
primer once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of
paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

FDR wrote:
"Melissa" wrote in message
...

Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand we
need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be partially?
tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be yet, so we
should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?


Usually you will get a tinted primer that the manufacturer says will result
in the truest color after painting. However, if you don't know then white
primer will do. I believe youd use a latex primer for surfaces that will be
painted with latex.


The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

Probably not. Go to a real paint store. I've never painted brand new
walls, but I would consider two full coats of primer before the paint.
At least spot prime the patches and seams. Ask at the paint store, read
can instructions. Most paint companies have good info on their websites
- it would not surprise me to find there is a special primer for new
construction. If you will be putting up wallpaper or border, need
primer then too.


And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure

The area you need to cover is 640 sq ft.
31 + 9 + 31 + 9 = 80.
80 x 8 = 640.

that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found I
had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my family
room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't yet
painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet. How much
primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with primer once,

Read the label, and plan to use more than the label calls for. I never
get the max, but I probably lay the paint on heavier.

which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of paint?

Thanks!

Melissa


The paint store should be able to tell you, or the paint can should say.
Always get a little more though.

She's including the ceiling - 640 + (31 X 9)= 919.

"Ron" wrote in message
m...
Buy a good quality paint and you'll minimize the number of coats of paint
you'll need for good coverage.

No special primer is needed for semi-gloss, again, just buy quality
primer.

I think you have 640 square feet
(31+9+31+9) X 8 = 80 X 8 = 640

The paint can label should tell you how many feet of coverage you'll be
able
to get per gallon of paint.
Ron

"Melissa" wrote in message
...
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand
we need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be
partially? tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be
yet, so we should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found
I had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my
family room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't
yet painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet.
How much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with
primer once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of
paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

"Ron" wrote in message

No special primer is needed for semi-gloss, again, just buy quality
primer.

I think you have 640 square feet
(31+9+31+9) X 8 = 80 X 8 = 640

Wrong. Do the math again but first, re-read the requirements
And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct?


Primer is always best over new drywall.

"Norminn" wrote in message


And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure

The area you need to cover is 640 sq ft.
31 + 9 + 31 + 9 = 80.
80 x 8 = 640.

Wrong. Problem with reading comprehension?

Norminn,

I think she said she had a 31 by 9 ceiling so she'll need enough ceiling
paint to cover 279 sq. ft. In a room with 8 ft of height she has 640 sq ft
of walls to paint. Look like you forgot to paint the ceiling.
I think she should pick her color for the walls and tint the wall primer
appropriately. I presume ceiling will be white so prime that in white. I
don't believe that more than one coat of primer is necessary or recommended
by paint manufacturers. You're correct that the choice of primer and paint
should be complementary (oil with oil or latex with latex).

Dave M.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"Norminn" wrote in message

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure

The area you need to cover is 640 sq ft.
31 + 9 + 31 + 9 = 80.
80 x 8 = 640.


Wrong. Problem with reading comprehension?






Actually, yes. Sorry. I read it twice (

David Martel wrote:
Norminn,

I think she said she had a 31 by 9 ceiling so she'll need enough ceiling
paint to cover 279 sq. ft. In a room with 8 ft of height she has 640 sq ft
of walls to paint. Look like you forgot to paint the ceiling.
I think she should pick her color for the walls and tint the wall primer
appropriately. I presume ceiling will be white so prime that in white. I
don't believe that more than one coat of primer is necessary or recommended
by paint manufacturers. You're correct that the choice of primer and paint
should be complementary (oil with oil or latex with latex).

Dave M.



Ben Moore's website says latex is preferred for new drywall. No details
, but probably got more specifics within each product description. Oil
over -, or latex over -, doesn't matter IMO as long as product doesn't
specify one or the other. Dry and cure times would be important, along
with all the other stuff they have on the label. )

http://www.benjaminmoore.com/wrapper...rt =1.3.1.1.3

You're correct, I was just thinking the walls were going to be painted.
"Lee & Cathi Thomas" wrote in message
...
She's including the ceiling - 640 + (31 X 9)= 919.

"Ron" wrote in message
m...
Buy a good quality paint and you'll minimize the number of coats of
paint
you'll need for good coverage.

No special primer is needed for semi-gloss, again, just buy quality
primer.

I think you have 640 square feet
(31+9+31+9) X 8 = 80 X 8 = 640

The paint can label should tell you how many feet of coverage you'll be
able
to get per gallon of paint.
Ron

"Melissa" wrote in message
...
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand
we need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be
partially? tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be
yet, so we should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need
to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I
found
I had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my
family room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't
yet painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet.
How much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with
primer once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of
paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

...and it was suggested the primer be partially? tinted first.

Yeah, unless you're finish coat is something really close to white
[then it doesn't matter].

It's common to tint the primer half-strength [maybe 3/4 if there's a
lot of colorant] of the finish color, and to be on the safe side I'd
wait until you're sure on the finish color before tinting the primer.
There's been at least one instance where the base of the finish paint
or the tints added had an adverse effect on how well the finish coat
covered the primer coat.

As for primer/finish coat combinations, it's not as strict as others
suggest. You can use latex finish coat over any primer, oil or latex.
For oil finish coat I stick with oil primer.

It doesn't matter which primer you use on your walls, but there's no
real reason to go to the trouble and expense of oil primer unless
you're going with oil finish. Trust me, you do not want that. If you
ever wanted to re-paint you'd have to use oil again. And if you wanted
to stop this vicious cycle you'd have to use an oil primer in order to
switch to a latex finish.

Every can has a spread rate or coverage rate on the label, in terms of
square footage. Just assume they're being optimistic and you won't get
quite as much square footage. Especially with new drywall you're going
to use a lot of primer.

Melissa wrote:
Our kitchen drywall is done, now time to pick the paint. I understand
we need to use primer first, and it was suggested the primer be
partially? tinted first. We aren't sure what color the kitchen will be
yet, so we should just go with plain off the shelf primer, yes?

The kitchen will be semi gloss like the rest of the house, will that
affect what type of primer I need to get?

And last of all, the room is 31 ft x 9 ft, with 8 ft ceilings, I need to
cover 919 sq ft of walls and ceiling, is that correct? Sorry, I'm sure
that seems obvious, but last time I bought paint, after painting I found
I had 2.5 gallons more than I needed. I've purchased paint for my
family room, with advice from you very helpful guys here, but haven't
yet painted, so don't know if I figured correctly for that room yet. How
much primer will I need to cover 919 sq ft, if I only paint with primer
once, which is what I believe is normal, followed by 2 coats of paint?

Thanks!

Melissa

Thanks again for all the help guys. I've been painting all day, and my
arms are complaining. Painting a ceiling is harder than I expected. We
have a large knock down texture, and it was difficult to get the paint
into all the grooves as it was sucked up so quickly. I did the ceiling
and the walls once, and used about 2.5 gallons of the 3 I bought. Hubby
is going to do the area where the ceiling and walls meet. I honestly
can't lift my arms higher than my chin right now. I bought latex
primer, as I know that washes out of clothes. It says it's for new
walls, and it worked out well. I went ahead with plain white since I
still haven't decided on the wall color. I was worried at first I
wouldn't know if I'd missed places over where they put the drywall mud
since that is white as well, but the primer dried with an ever so slight
blue/grey tinge, so it's easy to spot. I appreciate your patience with
this inexperienced DIY'er.

Melissa

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since that is white as well, but the primer dried with an ever so slight
blue/grey tinge, so it's easy to spot. I appreciate your patience with
this inexperienced DIY'er.

Melissa

I have patience on newsgroups, but not whilst hanging wallpaper. Bought
the paper for this bath 8 years ago; not a good idea. Not a good idea
to apply paste with roller, either. Measure twice, cut once.....not me.
I measured three times on one strip and still cut it too short.
Grrr...it was a BEAR putting up this paper, bubbles all over the place,
touched the wall and it would not move. Never had such difficulty with
paper. Waited all this time for hubby to replace wallboard on ceiling,
as it was a mess. Finally gave up and repaired, patched, sunk the darn
rusty nails, sanded, patched some more, and on and on. FINALLY have all
fixed but for the short section of wall with the little mousehole I made
to dig out rusted corner bead. Rest of bath is finished. Hubby did go
for new towel rods...dropped one while installing and it dinged the wall
on its way down twice and on it's way up once. They really bounce )
Got the dings patched and the rods straight. Looks nice. Rug has to
go, but hubby doesn't know that yet ) This has really been a good
experience, as I have gotten about 5 years worth of cussing out of my
system and will now conduct myself as a mature adult. Next project is
to repair grout in shower; nice dusty job to do in newly dec. bath. If
I can find grout for wet places. Good luck with homeowning )

For tough caulk/grout jobs, I use maritime caulking which dries
quickly even when wet.. most boat places have it (online)..

also helps to cover unavoidably wet areas with duct tape while
waiting for caulk/grout to dry..

more often than not, grout damage is straight lines and not sqaure
areas.. so you can do one line a day.. cover with duct tape and still
use the bathroom..

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