The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

Good luck, been looking for one year, same motor, Sony DVD players.
DVD player new, $90. Optical assy lowest price $71.30.

I have 9 similar Sony DVD players all with bad spindle motors sitting,
not being repaired as they all failed just outside of warranty.

Also need the RF-300F-12350 spindle motor for the DVP-NS425 series.

David

wrote:
The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush.
Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

The only way you will find this motor cheap is to find a scrapper machine
with a good one. Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive. At the rear, they had all the necessary component
outputs. The only thing I did not like was that there is no status display
on the front panel.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.

--

Jerry G.
=====

wrote in message
oups.com...
The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

Yes you can buy new machines cheap now. "Cheap" of course being the
operative word here unfortunately. From a consumer point of view
though, (actually I'm not one, as most of my "newer" stuff came from
customers who didn't want to spend the money to repair it).
I would be really ****ed to only get short service out of new
equipment purchases. I have a 22 year old Goldstar microwave oven that
we got for looking at a Time share property years ago. All of my
televisions are pre Columbus including the 1966 21 inch round Zenith.
My appliances too. They all work just fine. I would not even THINK
about buying new.
But as long as the world sactions the sad fact that Chinese prisoners
and underpaid others from third world countries are making these
products which we so crave in factories often in conditions so
deplorable that they would be unimaginable to the civilized world, with
their only compensation perhaps being allowed to remain alive this
bull**** will continue.
Meanwhile greedy manufacturers like Sony who speced out this piece of
crap motor won't sell replacement parts. Why can't the FTC or some
other useless Gov't entity which our wasted taxes support do something
about this? Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics

Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.

And that you have greater functionality and, in the case of something like the
Sony DVP-NS575, better reliability.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive.

Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time to
compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences can be
found.

Generally, players that sell for less than $60 under brands like Symphonic,
Norcent, Apex, Mintek, and the like have a picture quality that is technically
inferior. They usually exhibit extreme roll-off in the video signal's upper
frequencies, which manifests itself as a softer picture. This is usually due
to the fact that the analogue stages that passes the video output from the MPEG
decoder to the video outputs (component, s-video, composite) are usually
designed cheaply and built with cheap parts. Other problems could include
macroblocking artifacts with some cheap players. Quite a few use cheap MPEG
decoders which do not perform up to snuff, although some do use decent
decoders, but the cheaply designed analogue stage counteracts that particular
performance advantage if it's present.

Almost all cheap players have horrible progressive scan performance with bad
3:2 reverse pulldown if at all so film-based titles may not deinterlace
properly, and no cadence detection so it's dependent on detecting flags to know
how to deinterlace the video while a lot of DVDs aren't flagged correctly.

Plus, a lot of cheap players use cheap parts throughout. It's also not unusual
to have cheap players that have worn optical pickups within months to 2 years
of use. Although there are people that have had good luck with these things,
most usually have to replace them sooner than they expected.

My recommendations: Sony, Pioneer, or JVC.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.

I remember that, too.

Although, there is one 1st gen player that still stands out as a reference by
which many others are measured in overall video performance (sans progressive
scan): Sony DVP-S7000.

The best overall player as far as I know:
Denon DVD-5900 (also very expensive at over $5000 MSRP, unfortunately.) -
Reinhart

"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
....
| I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures
on
| them were very impressive.
|
| Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time
to
| compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences
can be
| found.

Local Best Buy has one model for $32.

....

N

I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon. After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.

And that you have greater functionality and, in the case of something like the
Sony DVP-NS575, better reliability.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive.

Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time to
compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences can be
found.

Generally, players that sell for less than $60 under brands like Symphonic,
Norcent, Apex, Mintek, and the like have a picture quality that is technically
inferior. They usually exhibit extreme roll-off in the video signal's upper
frequencies, which manifests itself as a softer picture. This is usually due
to the fact that the analogue stages that passes the video output from the MPEG
decoder to the video outputs (component, s-video, composite) are usually
designed cheaply and built with cheap parts. Other problems could include
macroblocking artifacts with some cheap players. Quite a few use cheap MPEG
decoders which do not perform up to snuff, although some do use decent
decoders, but the cheaply designed analogue stage counteracts that particular
performance advantage if it's present.

Almost all cheap players have horrible progressive scan performance with bad
3:2 reverse pulldown if at all so film-based titles may not deinterlace
properly, and no cadence detection so it's dependent on detecting flags to know
how to deinterlace the video while a lot of DVDs aren't flagged correctly.

Plus, a lot of cheap players use cheap parts throughout. It's also not unusual
to have cheap players that have worn optical pickups within months to 2 years
of use. Although there are people that have had good luck with these things,
most usually have to replace them sooner than they expected.

My recommendations: Sony, Pioneer, or JVC.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.

I remember that, too.

Although, there is one 1st gen player that still stands out as a reference by
which many others are measured in overall video performance (sans progressive
scan): Sony DVP-S7000.

The best overall player as far as I know:
Denon DVD-5900 (also very expensive at over $5000 MSRP, unfortunately.) -
Reinhart

I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term reliable.
Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.

My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other than
that, though.

I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.

Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for the
530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For instance,
some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
Electronics. - Reinhart

"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.
After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

--
Stephen Sank

I need to check these out. Tired of repairs getting declined.
I own a DVP-S530D but have removed it from my system because it won't do
CD-R, which the majority of my cd's are anymore. I know there are "silver"
cdr's but it's to late to re-do the collection.

Any offers? On the 530D that is :-)

Mark Z.

I have to make a comment here, from the view of a 23 year old male. While you prefer to have your TV and Microwave last 20+ years, I prefer to have a "nice, new" one every 5. I find myself replacing my cellphone yearly, dvd player about every 2, tv every 3-5, microwave every 3-5... not because they go bad, but because I like to have the latest and greatest. It's not about having too much money money, as I make a measly 40k a year... but now days you don't spend as much on an appliance as you used to. I think of them more as a lease... I'd rather spend $1000 over 10 years on 2-3 tv's then $1000 for one.

I checked MCM on-line and the mech for the 530D was 98.00 and change. Only
the one listing for this part. This info could be obsolete though.

Mark Z.


"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...

"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.
After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

--
Stephen Sank

I need to check these out. Tired of repairs getting declined.
I own a DVP-S530D but have removed it from my system because it won't do
CD-R, which the majority of my cd's are anymore. I know there are "silver"
cdr's but it's to late to re-do the collection.

Any offers? On the 530D that is :-)

Mark Z.

I have one, that you can have for 50.00 includes shipping.
JOHNC
"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable.
Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.

My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other
than
that, though.

I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.

Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the
530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For
instance,
some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
Electronics. - Reinhart

Do you mean you have a DVP-S7000 for fifty bucks(to which I'd say "I'll take it") or were you
referring to parts for the S530D or something else? It's not clear from you message.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"JOHN E. CARR" wrote in message
...
I have one, that you can have for 50.00 includes shipping.
JOHNC
"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable.
Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.

My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other
than
that, though.

I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.

Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the
530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For
instance,
some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
Electronics. - Reinhart

I have to make a comment here, from the view of a 23 year old male.
While you prefer to have your TV and Microwave last 20+ years, I prefer
to have a "nice, new" one every 5. I find myself replacing my cellphone
yearly, dvd player about every 2, tv every 3-5, microwave every 3-5...
not because they go bad, but because I like to have the latest and
greatest. It's not about having too much money money, as I make a
measly 40k a year... but now days you don't spend as much on an
appliance as you used to. I think of them more as a lease... I'd
rather spend $1000 over 10 years on 2-3 tv's then $1000 for one.

And here's a response from another 23 year old male.

I have a Panasonic microwave that still works after 22 years. Did have to
replace the internal interlock switches, but that's just $2 worth of parts and
my own labor versus spending $50 or so on an oven that isn't as powerful and
isn't built nearly as well. Why replace it with something that's less when all
it needed was simple service to fix it?

I have a Sony Trinitron TV I built from two defective units of the same model.
It's been calibrated, so it beats the crap out of almost any other NTSC
television, new and used. It also has a hidden 16x9 mode so I can enjoy DVDs
with anamorphic enhancement. Why replace it when it works better than just
about any other TV I've seen in a lot of areas? I'd go HDTV when it becomes
far more widespread and when NTSC broadcasts are halted. But until then...

My cellphone is an old Motorola StarTAC. It's a tri-mode so it still works
with the Verizon system fully. AND, it also transceives at the full legal
limit so it can take and make calls in places where my sister's Verizon LG
camera phone can't. Why replace it when I don't really need the niceties of
games, customizable ringtones, color screens, and a camera? Why does a phone
need these things, for crying out loud! The basic function of a phone is to
make and receive calls, and if a phone can't do that as reliably as my StarTAC
(mainly because newer phones have to divide the battery power to operate the
non-essentials in addition to the transceiver as well as to address potential
legal trouble from the idiots who think that using cell phones will give you
tumors), I won't bother with it.

My Sony DVP-S360 DVD player. Five years old and it still works and delivers a
picture that is not crippled by a lousy analogue stage like those found in
cheap Apex players, so what's the point in replacing it? When it croaks, I'll
go out and buy another Sony, particularly the models that use the
PrecisionDrive 3 system as they do not have layer change pauses unlike a lot of
the cheapie DVD players sold today. I don't need a player that can read CD-R
discs or MP3 support. I just want a DVD player that can play DVDs decently.

As for my audio system? Heh, hardly anything short of full blown exotic setup
really beats an almost full-fledged Sony ES system with a class A amp. And, it
does support the latest including Dolby Digital EX, ProLogic IIx and DTS ES.
It will blow those lowly HTiB systems, computer 5.1 setups, and Bose
shelf-systems out of the water and into the stratoshpere. And, it sounds great
with CDs, cassettes, and LPs in addition to digital surround sound. The
receiver, the STR-DA4ES, is about three years old. My tape deck, a TC-K707ES,
has three heads with a closed loop capstan and supports Dolby S and is about 11
years old and sounds great. My CD player, a CDP-X229ES, is about 12 years old
and works marvelously. Note that I said Sony ES. ES is the Elevated Standard
series, which is heads and tails superior to the regular Sony line of products
and are sold only at authorized hi-fi dealers.

And I'm just some college student who seems to have a particular knack at
obtaining quite a few good things at great deals or getting something broken
and fixing it back into somehing that's great.

Seeing and knowing what goes inside of something like, say, a lot of TVs from
the decent brands versus the cheapies, I'd rahter spend the extra bucks to get
a Sony over an Apex.

Buying crap like Apex and the like is not buying the latest and greatest. It's
throwing money away on substandard junk. I see these things get dropped off on
the repair bench fairly frequently, quite a few only several months old. They
fail because they just quit working. Cheap parts and cheap design are the
culprits, yet we have a public that are not convinced and continue to burn cash
on garbage that will require replacement within two years instead of lasting up
to 10 years or so which is typically the case with good brands like Sony and
Hitachi.

Buy something decent and it won't come to this! - Reinhart

A third view

Planned obsolescense makes great sense when tied with inherent obsolescence.
In five years, you'll get a much better one, so what difference if it only
lasts six?

Sadly, we see it in very developed technologies. Any VCR on the market won't
be way better than one from five years ago. (in fact, the 'Sylvania' Funai
which replaced our eight-year-old Magnavox has a less workable control system
and seems to wear tapes very fast)

--
Marada Shra'drakaii

heywire wrote:
I have to make a comment here, from the view of a 23 year old male.
While you prefer to have your TV and Microwave last 20+ years, I prefer
to have a "nice, new" one every 5. I find myself replacing my cellphone
yearly, dvd player about every 2, tv every 3-5, microwave every 3-5...
not because they go bad, but because I like to have the latest and
greatest. It's not about having too much money money, as I make a
measly 40k a year... but now days you don't spend as much on an
appliance as you used to. I think of them more as a lease... I'd
rather spend $1000 over 10 years on 2-3 tv's then $1000 for one.

I am 27 years of age, so must be an old fart then :-P While I have the
latest and greatest cellphone, it was not cheap and I expect it to last
5 years or more. I tend to hang onto older stuff of the top class, I can
make repairs myself and I can pick really great stuff. No need to settle
for a 250 euro crappy TV set when I can watch a 15 year old set with
much better picture that was in the 1500 euro price-range back then.

Apart from that, there is such thing as the environment. Everything
that's thrown away prematurely is a waist of energy and a possible
source of pollution.

---
Met vriendelijke groet,

Maarten Bakker.

On 30 Dec 2004 05:56:36 -0800, wrote:

what is the Laser type?
KHS-XXXaaa tell me what you have and i probably willl have a mechs
with working motors but bad laser. Lasers can be swapped out in these
mecs so all will be right with the world.


The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or rather,
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And they're
only $5.99 each!

Can anyone think of a reason one of these wouldn't work as a
substitute, before I go out and buy a couple?

Ben

wrote:
The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush.
Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

Success!

I bought two of the spindle motor below, the 26-140. I replaced the
RF-320CH-12400 in my DVP-S330 and my DVP-NS715P with the 26-140 motor
below. The only problem was that the spindle length was a bit too long
-- I think that the 26-160 would have worked perfectly without
modification. I now have two working DVD players, with a cost of $17
including shipping.

I also took some pictures of the process -- email if interested.

Ben

wrote:
I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or
rather,
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And
they're
only $5.99 each!

Ben Byer Wrote:
Success!

I bought two of the spindle motor below, the 26-140. I replaced the
RF-320CH-12400 in my DVP-S330 and my DVP-NS715P with the 26-140 motor
below. The only problem was that the spindle length was a bit too
long
-- I think that the 26-160 would have worked perfectly without
modification. I now have two working DVD players, with a cost of $17
including shipping.

I also took some pictures of the process -- email if interested.

Ben

wrote:-
I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or-
rather,-
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And-
they're-
only $5.99 each!-

FYI
i used the 26-160 motor on my DVP NS-300 and it works flawlessly.


--
rbanke