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Default Sony DVD model DVP-5530D need spindle motor

The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

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The only way you will find this motor cheap is to find a scrapper machine
with a good one. Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive. At the rear, they had all the necessary component
outputs. The only thing I did not like was that there is no status display
on the front panel.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.

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The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush. Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.


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Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.


And that you have greater functionality and, in the case of something like the
Sony DVP-NS575, better reliability.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive.


Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time to
compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences can be
found.

Generally, players that sell for less than $60 under brands like Symphonic,
Norcent, Apex, Mintek, and the like have a picture quality that is technically
inferior. They usually exhibit extreme roll-off in the video signal's upper
frequencies, which manifests itself as a softer picture. This is usually due
to the fact that the analogue stages that passes the video output from the MPEG
decoder to the video outputs (component, s-video, composite) are usually
designed cheaply and built with cheap parts. Other problems could include
macroblocking artifacts with some cheap players. Quite a few use cheap MPEG
decoders which do not perform up to snuff, although some do use decent
decoders, but the cheaply designed analogue stage counteracts that particular
performance advantage if it's present.

Almost all cheap players have horrible progressive scan performance with bad
3:2 reverse pulldown if at all so film-based titles may not deinterlace
properly, and no cadence detection so it's dependent on detecting flags to know
how to deinterlace the video while a lot of DVDs aren't flagged correctly.

Plus, a lot of cheap players use cheap parts throughout. It's also not unusual
to have cheap players that have worn optical pickups within months to 2 years
of use. Although there are people that have had good luck with these things,
most usually have to replace them sooner than they expected.

My recommendations: Sony, Pioneer, or JVC.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.


I remember that, too.

Although, there is one 1st gen player that still stands out as a reference by
which many others are measured in overall video performance (sans progressive
scan): Sony DVP-S7000.

The best overall player as far as I know:
Denon DVD-5900 (also very expensive at over $5000 MSRP, unfortunately.) -
Reinhart
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"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
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| I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures
on
| them were very impressive.
|
| Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time
to
| compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences
can be
| found.

Local Best Buy has one model for $32.

....

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I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon. After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

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"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
Considering that most of these consumer DVD players are at
below $150 for a good one, or below $90 for a cheap one, paying out $80 just
for parts is not worth it. A new player will come with a full 1 year
warranty.


And that you have greater functionality and, in the case of something like the
Sony DVP-NS575, better reliability.

I was a Wallmarts and was seeing some players at below $60. The pictures on
them were very impressive.


Any DVD player will look good upon first evaluation. If you take the time to
compare and evaluate critically and even take measurements, differences can be
found.

Generally, players that sell for less than $60 under brands like Symphonic,
Norcent, Apex, Mintek, and the like have a picture quality that is technically
inferior. They usually exhibit extreme roll-off in the video signal's upper
frequencies, which manifests itself as a softer picture. This is usually due
to the fact that the analogue stages that passes the video output from the MPEG
decoder to the video outputs (component, s-video, composite) are usually
designed cheaply and built with cheap parts. Other problems could include
macroblocking artifacts with some cheap players. Quite a few use cheap MPEG
decoders which do not perform up to snuff, although some do use decent
decoders, but the cheaply designed analogue stage counteracts that particular
performance advantage if it's present.

Almost all cheap players have horrible progressive scan performance with bad
3:2 reverse pulldown if at all so film-based titles may not deinterlace
properly, and no cadence detection so it's dependent on detecting flags to know
how to deinterlace the video while a lot of DVDs aren't flagged correctly.

Plus, a lot of cheap players use cheap parts throughout. It's also not unusual
to have cheap players that have worn optical pickups within months to 2 years
of use. Although there are people that have had good luck with these things,
most usually have to replace them sooner than they expected.

My recommendations: Sony, Pioneer, or JVC.

I remember about 7 years ago when DVD players first came out, the cheapest
ones were up at about $650.00 US !!! The good ones were up at about $1500.00
and plus! You can now get a better specification one for under $200 than
the top models of that time.


I remember that, too.

Although, there is one 1st gen player that still stands out as a reference by
which many others are measured in overall video performance (sans progressive
scan): Sony DVP-S7000.

The best overall player as far as I know:
Denon DVD-5900 (also very expensive at over $5000 MSRP, unfortunately.) -
Reinhart



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I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term reliable.
Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.


My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other than
that, though.

I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.

Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for the
530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.


I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For instance,
some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
Electronics. - Reinhart
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I have one, that you can have for 50.00 includes shipping.
JOHNC
"LASERandDVDfan" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable.
Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.


My biggest gripe about the S7000 is that there is no DTS output. Other
than
that, though.

I also like the DVP-S7700, but wished it didn't have the chroma upsampling
problem which the S7000 does not exhibit.

Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the
530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.


I wouldn't doubt that those parts can go on sale or what not. For
instance,
some places list the Sony KSS-210 CD pickup at around $40. I got my
replacement KSS-210 for my Marantz CD-3577 for about $20 from Suburban
Electronics. - Reinhart



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"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.
After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

--
Stephen Sank


I need to check these out. Tired of repairs getting declined.
I own a DVP-S530D but have removed it from my system because it won't do
CD-R, which the majority of my cd's are anymore. I know there are "silver"
cdr's but it's to late to re-do the collection.

Any offers? On the 530D that is :-)

Mark Z.


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I checked MCM on-line and the mech for the 530D was 98.00 and change. Only
the one listing for this part. This info could be obsolete though.

Mark Z.


"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...

"Stephen Sank" wrote in message
...
I concur on the Sony DVP-S7000. I own three of them. Not only great
performance, but it has
the only DVD laser pickup I have yet seen to prove itself long term
reliable. Plus, it has a 2
channel audio DAC board that is really easy to remove & do upgrades upon.
After upgrading, it
sounds absolutely terrific for cd playback.
Back on the subject of the DVP-S530D, I could swear that one of the dvd
mechs/lasers just
listed in the Sony section of the newest MCM catalog is the right one for
the 530, and was
something like $35, laser & motors included.

--
Stephen Sank


I need to check these out. Tired of repairs getting declined.
I own a DVP-S530D but have removed it from my system because it won't do
CD-R, which the majority of my cd's are anymore. I know there are "silver"
cdr's but it's to late to re-do the collection.

Any offers? On the 530D that is :-)

Mark Z.






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I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or rather,
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And they're
only $5.99 each!

Can anyone think of a reason one of these wouldn't work as a
substitute, before I go out and buy a couple?

Ben

wrote:
The motor number is: RF-320CH-12400
RN 44 9Z 18
D/V 13
Matt and some others have some motor listings but not this one. I
actually took the motor apart as I have had some luck in resurfacing
the commutators on some of these but this one has a broken brush.

Can't
really figure out a way to replace it. Fulton will not sell just the
motor. They want 71.30 for the "optical assy". What a friggin ripoff!
Does anyone have either a way to repair these motors or a REASONABLE
replacement source? Thanks, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.


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Success!

I bought two of the spindle motor below, the 26-140. I replaced the
RF-320CH-12400 in my DVP-S330 and my DVP-NS715P with the 26-140 motor
below. The only problem was that the spindle length was a bit too long
-- I think that the 26-160 would have worked perfectly without
modification. I now have two working DVD players, with a cost of $17
including shipping.

I also took some pictures of the process -- email if interested.

Ben

wrote:
I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or

rather,
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And

they're
only $5.99 each!


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Ben Byer Wrote:
Success!

I bought two of the spindle motor below, the 26-140. I replaced the
RF-320CH-12400 in my DVP-S330 and my DVP-NS715P with the 26-140 motor
below. The only problem was that the spindle length was a bit too
long
-- I think that the 26-160 would have worked perfectly without
modification. I now have two working DVD players, with a cost of $17
including shipping.

I also took some pictures of the process -- email if interested.

Ben

wrote:-
I have two Sony DVD players with the same problem, with the same bad
part.

Check out this page, which lists some data about this part (or-
rather,-
a replacement for it) and some similar parts:

http://www.fafa-motor.com/doce/cp.htm

If you look at that page, it looks like the RF-310TA-11400 is very
similar, but with a different shaft length (0.62" vs 0.37").

I found that motor for sale he
http://www.electronix.com/catalog/de...php/cPath/1_23

The part on the fafa-motor site corresponds to Electronix's 26-110.
Now, the 26-140 seems to be the same thing as the 26-110, but with a
shaft length of 0.42". And the 26-160 weighs in at 0.35". And-
they're-
only $5.99 each!-


FYI
i used the 26-160 motor on my DVP NS-300 and it works flawlessly.


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