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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
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I have Googled for an IDE extension cable for 2.5 inch hard drive (used in laptops), but I did not find a source. Most important, the extension cable must have a male connector on one end, and female on the other. Does anyone know a source? Thank You in advance, John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
I have Googled for an IDE extension cable for 2.5 inch hard drive (used
in laptops), but I did not find a source. Most important, the extension cable must have a male connector on one end, and female on the other. Does anyone know a source? Thank You in advance, John I have little idea what is for sale, but you might more easily find a F-F cable and also a F-M gender changer. (Or are they called sex-changers, given that gender is a grammatical term and refers to words, not to people or cable ends?) Hi Micky, I did not mention that I have an extension cable removed from a broken laptop. This IDE extension has female connectors on both ends. WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
I have Googled for an IDE extension cable for 2.5 inch hard drive (used
in laptops), but I did not find a source. The trick is to search using Google Images, not to sift through the web text search. Like this: https://www.google.com/search?q=laptop+ide+M-F+cable+-sata&tbm=isch Note that I've excluded SATA from the search. Then, just look through the images for something close. Most important, the extension cable must have a male connector on one end, and female on the other. Does anyone know a source? http://notebookcables.stores.yahoo.net/544pinidelap1.html http://ja.aliexpress.com/item/IDE-44Pin-Cable-2-5-Laptop-hard-drive-Female-To-Male-Cable-8inch/309780041.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5-IDE-44-Pin-laptop-HDD-Male-to-Female-Cable-2-inch-44-pin-M-F-cable-/180766687148 http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-44-PIN-IDE-2-5-Hard-Drive-Cable-Adapter-Male-to-Female-5cm-Amiga-Laptop-/281426634750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_205&hash=item4186 55a7fe http://www.iec.net/l1354.html etc... etc... etc... Hi Jeff, UPDATE: Thanks to you, I just ordered the cable from notebookcables.... Regards, John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:34:22 +0000, wrote:
WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. John What I've done in the distant past was find a 44 pin header like this: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cablesonline_2268_133639889 and just cram it into one of the connectors. If there's a keying pin, I just remove it from the header. If the header is keyed, and the missing pin ends up in the wrong slot, I just heat the connector, and move the pin. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:57:47 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:34:22 +0000, wrote: WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. What I've done in the distant past was find a 44 pin header like this: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cablesonline_2268_133639889 and just cram it into one of the connectors. If there's a keying pin, I just remove it from the header. I think the point here, is that the header is now a mirror image of the mating connector that is required. There has to be an inversion of the sense of the connector, i.e. the header has to stick through the back of the connector before engaging the female sockets, or it isn't a compatible mate to the cable in the extension-cable sense. |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:26:18 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote: On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:57:47 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:34:22 +0000, wrote: WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. What I've done in the distant past was find a 44 pin header like this: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cablesonline_2268_133639889 and just cram it into one of the connectors. If there's a keying pin, I just remove it from the header. I think the point here, is that the header is now a mirror image of the mating connector that is required. There has to be an inversion of the sense of the connector, i.e. the header has to stick through the back of the connector before engaging the female sockets, or it isn't a compatible mate to the cable in the extension-cable sense. Sure, but the header in the above URL, before a keying pin is removed, is symmetrical and will both fit in any derangement. If a keying pin is needed, just extract the pin from the header. The header shown is simply crammed into a common F-F ribbon cable, turning it into an extension cable. I've done this successfully a few times when I needed an HD or FD extension cable in an old monster tower case where the typical PC ribbon cables are usually too short. The only headache was that the header pins were slightly short, so I had to move the black plastic base to the approximate middle of the pins. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 18:35:06 -0700 Jeff Liebermann
wrote in Message id: : On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:26:18 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd wrote: On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:57:47 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:34:22 +0000, wrote: WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. What I've done in the distant past was find a 44 pin header like this: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cablesonline_2268_133639889 and just cram it into one of the connectors. If there's a keying pin, I just remove it from the header. I think the point here, is that the header is now a mirror image of the mating connector that is required. There has to be an inversion of the sense of the connector, i.e. the header has to stick through the back of the connector before engaging the female sockets, or it isn't a compatible mate to the cable in the extension-cable sense. Sure, but the header in the above URL, before a keying pin is removed, is symmetrical and will both fit in any derangement. If a keying pin is needed, just extract the pin from the header. The header shown is simply crammed into a common F-F ribbon cable, turning it into an extension cable. I've done this successfully a few times when I needed an HD or FD extension cable in an old monster tower case where the typical PC ribbon cables are usually too short. The only headache was that the header pins were slightly short, so I had to move the black plastic base to the approximate middle of the pins. Gotta call BS on this. That will connect pin 1 of the first cable to pin 2 of the connecting cable. Don't see how that could ever work. |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 08:28:45 -0400, JW wrote:
On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 18:35:06 -0700 Jeff Liebermann wrote in Message id: : On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 13:26:18 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd wrote: On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 10:57:47 AM UTC-7, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:34:22 +0000, wrote: WHY GENDER CHANGER WON'T WORK: I thought about a gender changer until I noticed that the "key" (blank spot, no pin connector) position was not in the center. What I've done in the distant past was find a 44 pin header like this: http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cablesonline_2268_133639889 and just cram it into one of the connectors. If there's a keying pin, I just remove it from the header. I think the point here, is that the header is now a mirror image of the mating connector that is required. There has to be an inversion of the sense of the connector, i.e. the header has to stick through the back of the connector before engaging the female sockets, or it isn't a compatible mate to the cable in the extension-cable sense. Sure, but the header in the above URL, before a keying pin is removed, is symmetrical and will both fit in any derangement. If a keying pin is needed, just extract the pin from the header. The header shown is simply crammed into a common F-F ribbon cable, turning it into an extension cable. I've done this successfully a few times when I needed an HD or FD extension cable in an old monster tower case where the typical PC ribbon cables are usually too short. The only headache was that the header pins were slightly short, so I had to move the black plastic base to the approximate middle of the pins. Gotta call BS on this. That will connect pin 1 of the first cable to pin 2 of the connecting cable. Don't see how that could ever work. Argh. Y'er right. Three cables and two sets of headers will work. However, that's not what I did when I built the extensions. I'm on vacation this week, but will dig into the box of ribbon cable junk next week and see what I find. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
Most important, the extension cable must have a male connector on one end, and female on the other. Does anyone know a source? http://notebookcables.stores.yahoo.net/544pinidelap1.html http://ja.aliexpress.com/item/IDE-44Pin-Cable-2-5-Laptop-hard-drive-Female-To-Male-Cable-8inch/309780041.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5-IDE-44-Pin-laptop-HDD-Male-to-Female-Cable-2-inch-44-pin-M-F-cable-/180766687148 http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-44-PIN-IDE-2-5-Hard-Drive-Cable-Adapter-Male-to-Female-5cm-Amiga-Laptop-/281426634750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_205&hash=item4186 55a7fe http://www.iec.net/l1354.html etc... etc... etc... Hi Jeff, UPDATE: Thanks to you, I just ordered the cable from notebookcables.... Regards, John WARNING/CAUTION: I received the cable in the mail late yesterday. This "extension" cable is DEFECTIVE. The connectors are "out of phase". The top row of pin connectors on the female side are connected to the bottom row of pin connectors on the male side, and vise versa. Note: If you "flip" the 2.5 inch hard drive, Pin #1 will end up connecting to Pin #20, etc. This cable came from Atlantic ComputerTech, 95 Horton Ave., Lynbrook, NY 11563. I will call them after 8AM (now 7:25AM) about returning this cable for a refund. I am afraid that all their cables may have the same problem. If I have a problem getting a refund, I will report back. John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
Hi Jeff,
UPDATE: Thanks to you, I just ordered the cable from notebookcables.... Regards, John WARNING/CAUTION: I received the cable in the mail late yesterday. This "extension" cable is DEFECTIVE. The connectors are "out of phase". The top row of pin connectors on the female side are connected to the bottom row of pin connectors on the male side, and vise versa. Note: If you "flip" the 2.5 inch hard drive, Pin #1 will end up connecting to Pin #20, etc. This cable came from Atlantic ComputerTech, 95 Horton Ave., Lynbrook, NY 11563. I will call them after 8AM (now 7:25AM) about returning this cable for a refund. I am afraid that all their cables may have the same problem. If I have a problem getting a refund, I will report back. Hi, I called Atlantic ComputerTech, and I had no problems regarding making a return for refund or exchange. It turns out there is a "true extension" version. Until now, I did not know that there are two types of extensions. CAUTION: If you want a "true extension", the top pins on the female connector are the top pins on the male connector, order FI2-X06M. John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
WARNING/CAUTION: I received the cable in the mail late yesterday. This "extension" cable is DEFECTIVE. The connectors are "out of phase". The top row of pin connectors on the female side are connected to the bottom row of pin connectors on the male side, and vise versa. Note: If you "flip" the 2.5 inch hard drive, Pin #1 will end up connecting to Pin #20, etc. This cable came from Atlantic ComputerTech, 95 Horton Ave., Lynbrook, NY 11563. I will call them after 8AM (now 7:25AM) about returning this cable for a refund. I am afraid that all their cables may have the same problem. If I have a problem getting a refund, I will report back. John This is not surprising - see my response to Jeff L. I think if you used two of them for a total of three flat cables connected together, it may work. You don't want exceed a total length of 18" as that would exceed the specification, so keep that in mind as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA Hi, Yes, if I ordered two of those extensions, the second one would put the end connector back in "phase". I did not know there are two types of extensions until now. John |
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IDE Extension Cable for 2.5 inch Hard Drive
On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:25:41 +0000 wrote in Message
id: : Most important, the extension cable must have a male connector on one end, and female on the other. Does anyone know a source? http://notebookcables.stores.yahoo.net/544pinidelap1.html http://ja.aliexpress.com/item/IDE-44Pin-Cable-2-5-Laptop-hard-drive-Female-To-Male-Cable-8inch/309780041.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-5-IDE-44-Pin-laptop-HDD-Male-to-Female-Cable-2-inch-44-pin-M-F-cable-/180766687148 http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-44-PIN-IDE-2-5-Hard-Drive-Cable-Adapter-Male-to-Female-5cm-Amiga-Laptop-/281426634750?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_205&hash=item4186 55a7fe http://www.iec.net/l1354.html etc... etc... etc... Hi Jeff, UPDATE: Thanks to you, I just ordered the cable from notebookcables.... Regards, John WARNING/CAUTION: I received the cable in the mail late yesterday. This "extension" cable is DEFECTIVE. The connectors are "out of phase". The top row of pin connectors on the female side are connected to the bottom row of pin connectors on the male side, and vise versa. Note: If you "flip" the 2.5 inch hard drive, Pin #1 will end up connecting to Pin #20, etc. This cable came from Atlantic ComputerTech, 95 Horton Ave., Lynbrook, NY 11563. I will call them after 8AM (now 7:25AM) about returning this cable for a refund. I am afraid that all their cables may have the same problem. If I have a problem getting a refund, I will report back. John This is not surprising - see my response to Jeff L. I think if you used two of them for a total of three flat cables connected together, it may work. You don't want exceed a total length of 18" as that would exceed the specification, so keep that in mind as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA |
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On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:04:25 +0000, wrote:
WARNING/CAUTION: I received the cable in the mail late yesterday. This "extension" cable is DEFECTIVE. The connectors are "out of phase". The top row of pin connectors on the female side are connected to the bottom row of pin connectors on the male side, and vise versa. Note: If you "flip" the 2.5 inch hard drive, Pin #1 will end up connecting to Pin #20, etc. This cable came from Atlantic ComputerTech, 95 Horton Ave., Lynbrook, NY 11563. I will call them after 8AM (now 7:25AM) about returning this cable for a refund. I am afraid that all their cables may have the same problem. If I have a problem getting a refund, I will report back. This is not surprising - see my response to Jeff L. I think if you used two of them for a total of three flat cables connected together, it may work. You don't want exceed a total length of 18" as that would exceed the specification, so keep that in mind as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA Yes, if I ordered two of those extensions, the second one would put the end connector back in "phase". I did not know there are two types of extensions until now. heh... The Electronics Industry has taken a page from the Plumbing Industry -- and you'll find there are WAY more than "two types of extensions". Jonesy |
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