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![]() Jstein wrote: I'm in desperate need of help with my Kenmore 70 series washer model number 110.24722300. I noticed water pooling under the washer a few days ago and assumed that the tub overflowed. Upon further examination it would appear that the plastic tub has a crack in it. The crack is located at the base of one of the "fins". The underside of the tub appears to have 3 fins that are approx 1/8" thick, 2" deep and 2" long. They serve no purpose from what I can tell. It looks as though the fin has knocked into the metal base of the washer causing the fracture. The fin adjacent to the cracked one shows signs of knocking into the frame as well. I also noticed that there are two little plastic cups that are mounted to the frame. These can be seen he http://s443.photobucket.com/albums/qq154/steinj1/ Both cups were filled 3/4 with water. Both cups also contained a pin with a hole for what looks like a cotter pin. I think those are anti-siphon devices (siphon break?), to keep the drain from siphoning water out of the tub at the wrong time. You may want to check appliance websites with forums, like ApplianceJunk.com (has many manuals, as does ApplianceDigest.com ), ApplianceHelp.com , FixItNow.com , and Appliantology.org . There may be a secret warranty on cracked tubs, but don't expect Sears or Whirlpool to admit to this. Also Sears is nothing special when it comes to appliance repair, except for their high parts and labor prices. If there's no warranty, look for either Whirlpool factory repair or an independent authorized repair company that has a real street address (no big ads in the phone book). I think the only way to fix the plastic tub is by melting it back together with a soldering iron and some identical plastic to use as welding rod. |
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On Jul 25, 3:07*pm, "larry moe 'n curly"
wrote: Jstein wrote: I'm in desperate need of help with my Kenmore 70 series washer model number 110.24722300. I noticed water pooling under the washer a few days ago and assumed that the tub overflowed. Upon further examination it would appear that the plastic tub has a crack in it. The crack is located at the base of one of the "fins". The underside of the tub appears to have 3 fins that are approx 1/8" thick, 2" deep and 2" long. They serve no purpose from what I can tell. It looks as though the fin has knocked into the metal base of the washer causing the fracture. The fin adjacent to the cracked one shows signs of knocking into the frame as well. I also noticed that there are two little plastic cups that are mounted to the frame. These can be seen he http://s443.photobucket.com/albums/qq154/steinj1/ Both cups were filled 3/4 with water. Both cups also contained a pin with a hole for what looks like a cotter pin. I think those are anti-siphon devices (siphon break?), to keep the drain from siphoning water out of the tub at the wrong time. *You may want to check appliance websites with forums, like ApplianceJunk.com (has many manuals, as does ApplianceDigest.com ), ApplianceHelp.com , FixItNow.com , and Appliantology.org . There may be a secret warranty on cracked tubs, but don't expect Sears or Whirlpool to admit to this. *Also Sears is nothing special when it comes to appliance repair, except for their high parts and labor prices. * If there's no warranty, look for either Whirlpool factory repair or an independent authorized repair company that has a real street address (no big ads in the phone book). *I think the only way to fix the plastic tub is by melting it back together with a soldering iron and some identical plastic to use as welding rod. I ended up applying some silicone to the underside of the tub. This has helped significantly though it does still leak. I think I'm going to try applying some silicone to the inside of the tub as well. After observing the machine complete 2 full loads I am of the feeling that the machine was overloaded or the clothes shifted making the tub heavy on one side. The plastic fins did not come close to knocking into the frame during these loads. Does anyone have any recommendations as to where I can find the spanner wrench? I haven't had much luck locating one online. Thanks again. |
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![]() Jstein wrote: I ended up applying some silicone to the underside of the tub. This has helped significantly though it does still leak. I think I'm going to try applying some silicone to the inside of the tub as well. After observing the machine complete 2 full loads I am of the feeling that the machine was overloaded or the clothes shifted making the tub heavy on one side. The plastic fins did not come close to knocking into the frame during these loads. Does anyone have any recommendations as to where I can find the spanner wrench? I haven't had much luck locating one online. Try automotive part supplies, but you should be able to get by with a hammer and a punch to remove the nut holding the tub against the shaft. That's one of the methods Whirlpool describes in its factory service manuals. Did you get the manual from ApplianceJunk.com or ApplianceDigest.com ? |
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I have an idea for the use of the tabs. They may allow stacking of
the tubs. Thus they were added for manufacturing. |
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i've had success on two different tubs, essentially with DIY
plastic welding. on one tub, i used a low wattage soldering iron, partially melting the edges of the crack and melt-filling the crack with strips from a polyethylene milk jug. on the other tub, i used the heat of a glue gun to melt the edges of the crack and also melt-filling, as described above. On Jul 26, 9:00*am, Jstein wrote: I think the only way to fix the plastic tub is by melting it back together with a solderi I ended up applying some silicone to the underside of the tub. This has helped significantly though it does still leak. I think I'm going to try applying some silicone to the inside of the tub as well. |
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On Jul 27, 6:15*am, nucleus wrote:
i've had success on two different tubs, essentially with DIY plastic welding. *on one tub, i used a low wattage soldering iron, partially melting the edges of the crack and melt-filling the crack with strips from a polyethylene milk jug. on the other tub, i used the heat of a glue gun to melt the edges of the crack and also melt-filling, as described above. On Jul 26, 9:00*am, Jstein wrote: I think the only way to fix the plastic tub is by melting it back together with a solderi I ended up applying some silicone to the underside of the tub. This has helped significantly though it does still leak. I think I'm going to try applying some silicone to the inside of the tub as well. I may try the welding you described if my silicone does not hold. I was able to take off the spanner nut last night and remove the metal tub. I tried removing the plastic tub but I did not want to disturb the center seal. I applied a liberal amount of silicone to the inside of the tub. I roughed up and cleaned the surface pretty well in hopes of increasing the bond. I will let the group know if it holds. |
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FYI, i did this from the INSIDE of the plastic tub, where the
water pressure is positive and did NOT remove the tub from the machine. On Jul 27, 7:14*am, Jstein wrote: I may try the welding you described if my silicone does not hold. |
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On Jul 27, 5:15*am, nucleus wrote:
i've had success on two different tubs, essentially with DIY plastic welding. *on one tub, i used a low wattage soldering iron, partially melting the edges of the crack and melt-filling the crack with strips from a polyethylene milk jug. on the other tub, i used the heat of a glue gun to melt the edges of the crack and also melt-filling, as described above. On Jul 26, 9:00*am, Jstein wrote: I think the only way to fix the plastic tub is by melting it back together with a solderi I ended up applying some silicone to the underside of the tub. This has helped significantly though it does still leak. I think I'm going to try applying some silicone to the inside of the tub as well.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I think the melting plastic/welding process offers the best chance of success, especially if done on the inside of the tub where water pressure will push the patch toward the actual tub. I also think the comment that the tabs are part of the manufacturing process is 100% correct, |
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