I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.

bob wrote:

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote

I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


I Use Fedron for all rubber parts which works great
Isopropyl for most everything else

Can someone explain the trade names Chloro-Kleen and Fedron for me ?

Graham

Goof off , formbys refinisher , westleys tire cleaner , wd-40 , windex

On Sep 1, 6:29 pm, Eeyore
wrote:
bob wrote:
"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote

I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...

I Use Fedron for all rubber parts which works great
Isopropyl for most everything else

Can someone explain the trade names Chloro-Kleen and Fedron for me ?

Graham

Graham:

Cloro-Clean was Tri-Clor when packaged by General Cement. I have no
idea on Fedron.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:02:38 GMT, "Mark D. Zacharias"
put finger to keyboard and composed:

I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.

I now use isopropyl alcohol, but I used to use Freon TF.

- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Vodka, Neat, (Drunk)

--
Adrian C

"bob" wrote in message
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I Use Fedron for all rubber parts which works great
Isopropyl for most everything else
Bob

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards,
but nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.



Chloro-Kleen contained 1,1,1 Trichlorethylene and petroleum distillates,
according to the label. Don't know what exactly.

mz

Curious what you are cleaning flux from .
I never had any issues with the little flux that stays around the solder
joint .

I second Goof Off -- but be careful with some plastics.

Polystyrene, principally.

My fav'rit's methyl-ethyl ketone. Like, wow, man...

"Ken G." wrote:

Curious what you are cleaning flux from .
I never had any issues with the little flux that stays around the solder
joint .


Thetas because you don't work on industrial, military, or aerospace
grade electronics. Flux can, and does adsorb moisture, which can cause
leakage paths on a PC board. If its humid enough, it can damage bare
copper traces, over time. On cheap throw away chinese **** doesn't
matter if you clean it, or not.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

"Ken G." wrote in message
...
Curious what you are cleaning flux from .
I never had any issues with the little flux that stays around the solder
joint .


Sometimes flux can get really ugly looking. I like for a board to look
really good when I'm done with it. Best of all if it's really hard to tell
if someone has even worked on it at all !

Mark Z.

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On Sep 1, 1:02 pm, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote:
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all
you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from
boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...

Mark Z.

I use this stuff for removing flux. It's not the fastest dissolver but
I've never seen it damage anything.

http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/4140.html

Flame time. I also use Xylene. This _NASTY_ stuff was the official
head cleaner for Ampex 1" type C video recorder and it is drastically
superior to any alcohols. Any tape residue on guides, heads and
capstans will come off in seconds but it destroys styrenes. For laughs
I tried it on some rubber pinch rollers in Sony Betcam SP decks. If
the rollers have less than 1000 hrs run time, they will look virtually
new with a Xylene scrub. You can get Xylene at Home Depot for $12/
gallon.

GG


I'd forgotten about Xylene - maybe the brain cells died from smelling it in
magic markers.

:-)

Mark Z.

I figured it had something to do with high grade equipment . About all i
work on is cheal chinese ``****`` I have cleand up flux before when it
about takes over .

Also agree about 409 its good stuff . The tire cleaner is a step further
It will ruin anodized aluminum . Once you get used to it it really
removes all sorts of dirt in a big hurry .

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:45:35 -0600, Ken G. wrote:
Goof off , formbys refinisher , westleys tire cleaner , wd-40 , windex

And 409. Can really work wonders on the grime left on exterior surfaces
(viz control panels and keyboards.) DO NOT SPRAY DIRECTLY ON the device.
Rather, spray a cleaning rag heavily and work with that. Sometimes
laying the cloth over 'stubborn' areas and letting it soak works a treat.

I second Goof Off -- but be careful with some plastics.

Jonesy
As long as we're doing commercial cleaners, I'm putting in a plug for
Simple Green and Clorox Cleanup. The SG been around long enough that
most know it's properties, but the CC stuff is pretty amazing (just
don't get it on your clothes--it's mostly bleach).

'Off label' use: Ants.
Ever have an infestation of those little buggers? You wipe them up, and
spray them with poison and they come right back. Instead, spray Clorox
Cleanup directly on them, and the entire trail leading back to wherever
they're coming from. It kills 'em instantly and obliterates the scent
trail they lay down for navigation from the nest...they won't be back.

IMO, much preferable to the various poisons they sell for the purpose.

jak

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in
:

I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you
guys like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards,
but nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.



Soap and water, or just plain water.
Isopropyl alcohol
Diesel fuel to loosen grease.
Weak Acetone (AKA nail polish remover)

Nothing really like Tri-Clor or MEK.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:02:38 GMT, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote:

I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you
guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from
boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.


For cleaning accumulated crap off pcb's I use Domestos (a hospital
grade cleaner you can't get in the US). Washed down afterwards with
plain water and thoroughly dried off with a hot air gun.

For electronics components or small areas on otherwise good condition
pcb's, I use Isopropynol.

For removing glue residue or labels with non water soluble adhesive I
find kerosene does the trick. It will usually cause the label adhesive
to soften to a gel where it can be removed with a paper towel or
tissue and then finally clean up with a paper towel wetted with clean
kerosene.

On Sep 1, 4:02 pm, "Mark D. Zacharias"
wrote:
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...

Mark

In no particular order:

Ammonia
Dilute Lye or spray lye-based oven cleaner (best grease, skunge &
paint remover bar-none for those surfaces that can accept it and may
be cleaned with water afterwards).
91%+ Isopropyl Alcohol
Acetone
Petroleum Naptha (standard paint-thinner)
Methylene Chloride - outdoors in a breeze only
MEK where lye cannot be used - as above.
Olive Oil (try it on gummed areas, just once if you are surprised.
Almost any cooking oil will do something, but Olive Oil has a high
percentage of Oleic Acid in it).
Methyl salicylate (synthetic oil-of-wintergreen) for non-residue
penetrating-oil applications if you can stand the smell.
Penetrating oil.
WD-40 (actually light-fraction kerosene).
Stove Alcohol (methyl alcohol) - not good on many plastics so be
careful.

About covers it.
Due cautions for HTA explosive potentials are to be noted.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA
Kutztown Space 338

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.



I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though. If I
find any wear on rubber parts, I like to replace them. I really have never
found a chemical that can rejuvenate a belt or an idler for any length of
time.

--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA

David Farber writes:

I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though.
If I find any wear on rubber parts, I like to replace them. I really
have never found a chemical that can rejuvenate a belt or an idler for
any length of time.

Nothing truly renews degraded rubber, which is due to chemicals like ozone
reacting with the polymer, due to the shortening of the polymer chains with
age and other factors. Now you can coat a rubber thing with stuff, and the
stuff will change the surface characteristic slighty and for a while, but
you haven't done a thing to the bulk properties.

I used to put a thin coat of gel toothpaste on tired rubber rollers for dot
matrix printers and fax machines, back in the day. Worked well, if
briefly.

Dont overlook Westleys tire cleaner . It was made to clean rubber and it
does . It wont bring back hard rubber but it sure cleans it .Best if
washed & rinsed instead of wipped . I have made several yucky rubber
turntable mat , covers look new again .

David Farber wrote:
I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though.

MG Chemicals? Have some sitting right here. Not bad for removing the outer
oxide and "gripping up" the surface a bit. As you say, replacement is
always better, but this isn't too bad for a quick spiff job.

--
If you really believe carbon dioxide causes global warming,
you should stop exhaling.

In article ,
"David Farber" wrote:

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards, but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.



I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though. If I
find any wear on rubber parts, I like to replace them. I really have never
found a chemical that can rejuvenate a belt or an idler for any length of
time.

I used it on the rollers of an older printer when they would no longer
grab the paper. It worked like a champ. I've restored a few printers
with it. Haven't tried it on anything else.

Al

"David Farber" wrote in message
...

"Mark D. Zacharias" wrote in message
...
I use Chloro-Kleen which I purchased years ago when it was legal.
Unfortunately it's running out now and I was wondering what all you guys
like...

I use isopropyl for some stuff, and MEK for cleaning flux from boards,
but
nothing beat Chloro-Kleen for rubber parts...


Mark Z.



I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though. If
I
find any wear on rubber parts, I like to replace them. I really have never
found a chemical that can rejuvenate a belt or an idler for any length of
time.

--
David Farber
David Farber's Service Center
L.A., CA



Still, cleaning rubber parts is sometimes useful. I'll often clean an
otherwise good idler just for good measure.

Mark Z.

Al wrote:
"David Farber" wrote:
I just bought a bottle of Rubber Renue. I haven't tried it yet though. If I
find any wear on rubber parts, I like to replace them. I really have never
found a chemical that can rejuvenate a belt or an idler for any length of
time.

I used it on the rollers of an older printer when they would no longer
grab the paper. It worked like a champ. I've restored a few printers
with it. Haven't tried it on anything else.

Had to do the rubber rollers and odds and ends on my H-P FAX700 today with
it.

--
If you really believe carbon dioxide causes global warming,
you should stop exhaling.

"clifto" wrote in message
...


Had to do the rubber rollers and odds and ends on my H-P FAX700 today with
it.


Yeah,

I hadn't even thought about that - cleaning platens etc on printers. No way
is replacement economical on most PC type printers these days.

Mark Z.