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The Hammond Organ Company lives
on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues
to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues
players the world over. They also continue to build
traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as
SS types.



Cool. I type corrected.
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If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a
pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him
step forward and speak up.

silence

Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization
last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and
on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course -
a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years
old.



And Peter Gabriel used an Amiga, and a looping recording!
I am sure more was involved, but I am not that deep into the
mechanical heart of music, mainly content.

That's why I suggested Gentle Giant. If you remember them, you'd
likely agree that they were pretty good.

Still, that Gabriel show was one of the best concerts I have been at,
Madison Sq Gardens, 1987ish.
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In article kfavu21bl2hefb9p7t17v3sn7hqj90duga@
4ax.com,

says...

Here, look at this picture...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/




Again I say, you stupid ****:

Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings.

Also, do you have any clue as to how old that **** is?


LoL! ...so if he shows another, will you ask for
a third?


You're a bigger idiot than he is.

And age has to do with...what?


Well, dip****, when "GC" first came out, they were the consumer
level cheap way to get things, and they weren't very bright.

As clearly evidenced by them labeling an ACID flux as being for
electronic use, when the ENTIRE world knows that it is NOT!

So it looks like you can **** off too, you uneducated retard.

It looks like : Cowell 1, Prong 0


I suggest you visit an eye doctor then, you stupid ****tard.

His claim that Zinc Chloride is in rosin flux is wrong. You need to
learn that, dip****.
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"MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:55:03 -0600, "Dave Moore"
: Gave us:
:
: I suppose I should mention that I started taking L-Carnitine
: and Coenzyme Q-10 also. Not because of my suspicions about
: possible lead poisoning, but simply because they're suppose to
: be good for cell rejuvenation in general. At my ripe old age of
: 52, one begins to think about such things :-)
: So I suppose there's the possiblity that these supplements
: mighta played a part in the turn around, dunno.
:
:
: Try a good, hearty, fresh green salad twice a day.
:
: Not some little dish filler either. A PLATE FULL of salad.
:
: Graze in the pasture as it were.

I've been eating large bowls of fresh veggies for over 20 years.
I was into so-called 'health foods' before food was discovered.


If that is the case, then it IS merely age and drugs as well as a
bit of the power of suggestion.

There is no reason you would be "missing strings" then not so simply
because you chowed on some selenium.
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Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died
as a result of water drinking contest recently?


Sounds too good to be true! You got a URL for that?


I can't believe that you're such a hermit that you didn't hear the
news piece!

Hell google water death over playstation.

Radio station manager got ****canned along with some other station
employees IIRC.


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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:06:47 -0500, RonSonic
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:15:35 +1300, Barry Lennox
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook"
wrote:

Arfa Daily wrote in message
...

"Dave Moore" wrote in message
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Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to

snip


The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic
packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food
industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him.
When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic)
hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of
these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies.

The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's
an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy"

It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about
the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a
little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation
between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer
performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of
about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals
a sharper mind, as is often espoused.


Years ago Col. Cooper, a writer, teacher and former marine was driving into town
and noticed a young woman waiting to cross the street standing with her arms
crossed with a cell phone in one hand and a bottle of water in the other. He
riffed amusingly on what sort of perilous and adventurous life she must lead
that she should need to have water in hand at all times. What exotic sphere of
life did she occupy that she should need to be ready to communicate across great
distances at a moments notice. One might wonder.


I suspect a parallel universe link to the Sahara Desert

Incidentally, I suggested that to one of the worst "water bottle
carriers" where I once worked. She looked at me like I was quite mad.



Maybe the bottle was nitro, and the phone was her IED trigger.
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:12:27 -0800, MassiveProng
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:16:53 +1300, Barry Lennox
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Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died
as a result of water drinking contest recently?


Sounds too good to be true! You got a URL for that?


I can't believe that you're such a hermit that you didn't hear the
news piece!

Hell google water death over playstation.

Radio station manager got ****canned along with some other station
employees IIRC.


Interesting, but I live a long way from Sacramento. I guess it's
gonna be one helluva lawsuit.


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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:11:15 -0600, "Dave Moore"
wrote:


"Barry Lennox" wrote in message ...
: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook"
: wrote:
:
: Arfa Daily wrote in message
: ...
:
: "Dave Moore" wrote in message
: news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9...
: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
:
: snip
:
:
: The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic
: packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food
: industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him.
: When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic)
: hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of
: these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies.
:
: The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's
: an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy"
:
: It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about
: the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a
: little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation
: between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer
: performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of
: about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals
: a sharper mind, as is often espoused.
:
: Barry


Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died
as a result of water drinking contest recently?


Sounds too good to be true! You got a URL for that?

It's not all that uncommon. Google "water intoxication". A high
percentage of marathoners and "Iron Man" contestants end up with
water intoxication, which looks like dehydration causing them to
drink more water...

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"PassiveSchlong" wrote
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:11:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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"MassiveWrong" wrote in
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"MessyPong" wrote in
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:33:10 -0600, "Stephen Cowell"
wrote:


Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it...

---
No, it doesn't.

I agree.

Some fluxes often called "acid fluxes" contain zinc chloride, but it
can't be used for electrical work because it's corrosive.

Chlorine has a way of doing that... :-]

Were it in my fluxes, I'd have been dead decades ago, and you guys
would have some other asshole hanging around calling folks assholes.
:-]

Here, look at this picture...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/

and kiss my *ss.

****ing retard. Where do you derive from that the Zinc Chloride is a
basic part of rosin flux, as you stated in your post?

Are you really so ****ing stupid as to think that different makers of
flux do not use different formulas?

Look at the picture, then bl*w me.


Again I say, you stupid ****:

Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings.


I got picture... you got nothin'.



You have aural induced brain damage.


Can't you find bigger words?


I don't need to have a picture, dip****.

He Go find the song "Nothing At All" by a REAL group of
musicians, Gentle Giant.


Great band... saw 'em live at the Armadillo, Civilian tour.
You prefer John Weathers, or the original drummer?
Love the Shulman bros... they all kick ass, I have a pretty
complete set of their studio recordings on disc and vinyl.

What does this have to do with anything?

That's all you are... nothing at all.


And I suppose you're here for the "Power and the Glory"?

Your old, rusty can of flux is as outdated as you are, and your amp,
and your ****ing mindset.


It owns you, as you've shown.


Face it, dip****, you presumed.


See the picture? Read it carefully... 'zinc chloride'.


Then, your retarded ass pulled some more twelve year old adolescent
baby bull**** by ****ing around with the quotes in one of your
pathetic replies.


You're the one that chose the setup name... 'MassivePrawn',
adds an absurd touch, which takes your dullness and makes
it entertaining, in a massively small way.

You have "fails to admit when wrong disease".


I have picture... you have squat.


You are petty, at best.


Now *that* hurts... I've been called many things in my
life, but this is the first time I've been called 'petty' by
a MassivePrawn.

So crank up the amp, lick those speaker nuts, and kill a few
thousand more brain cells, boy.


Got plenty to spare. Large prosthetic forehead on my real
head, although I'm just a snowman with protective rubber skin.
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Here, look at this picture...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/



Again I say, you stupid ****:

Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings.

Also, do you have any clue as to how old that **** is?



LoL! ...so if he shows another, will you ask for a third? And age has
to do with...what?

It looks like : Cowell 1, Prong 0


Nope. Cowell produced a tin of ... what?
To prove his point, which was "Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it"
he needs to establish:
1) That the tin contains (or contained) flux
2) That the flux is rosin flux


Even if we can assume 1 above is true, 2 is false.


We aren't stupid... your assertion is simply
that, Argumentum ad Assertum, or whatever
the frick it is... anyway, I got picture.

What he has (or had) in the tin, is acid flux.


It says "Non-Corrosive Soldering Paste" on
the front. It says "Radio Chemicals" on the
back. The flux is a deep brown goo... and
by golly, it smells just like rosin flux! And
you know the best part... it works like a
champ!


The "contains zinc chloride" written on the label tells
you that. So if you use your scoring system, it is
Cowell 0, Prong 1


Sorry, a real person *always* trumps a sock, especially
when the sock is so patently offensive.

But the "scoring" isn't the key point.
The sad thing is the possible use by Mr. Cowell, yourself,
or others of an acid flux on electronic gear.


How about 'non-corrosive' flux? I *urge* all of you to
go to Wikipedia and read up on 'activated' fluxes...
or FOAD, for all I care. I just like kicking around
someone that uses "MassivePrawn" for a handle.
I'll probably get to heaven for it, even though I'm
an atheist.
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"FlaccidProng" wrote in
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well, yes, as you point out, I *do* know a thing or three about
contacts, both leaf and reed. Have *you* ever had your hands
inside a Hammond Organ?


I worked at Baldwin, you retarded ****. **** Hammond.


I didn't think so... I used to have a Baldwin, once...
left it at the dump, no usable stuff inside. I suppose
you're the one that invented those silicon contacts?
The ones that are unobtainable, and render the unit
unrepairable (thank god, anyway!).



Let's see... google Hammond and get some lame electronic parts
place.

Google Baldwin, and get...


WHAT'S THIS?! A PIANO AND ORGAN COMPANY!

Imagine that. The dip**** clings to outdated CRAP like acid flux
(NOT ROSIN), which is not even meant for electronics, and Organs which
no longer have a maker.

You could be a bit more clueless, but not in this life.


That's pretty funny... you prefer Baldwins to Hammonds...
I'm imagining you with a Baldwin-like smirk on your face.
Sort of like preferring Teen Beat magazine to a da Vinci
painting, but in a smellier way.
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Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the
leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning,
as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right?



Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium
"fingers", dip****.


Why not just change the whole thing into a Baldwin?
Then it could be the *best*!

Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be
able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a
sig work properly.


MassivePrawn, I'm deeply touched that you would clue
me in about my .sig. That is *indeed* a sign of true
friendship... however, the sig I use has been good for
many years. Perhaps it's the cocktail sauce on your
monitor?
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: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600,
"Dave Moore" wrote:
:
: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
: post about my recent experience. So, since
: I finally remembered;
:
: Not long ago I started noticing that when I would
: play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings.
: Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into
: the edges of doorways on occasion,
: instead of gracefully passing through them.
: Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like
: my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird
: almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness
: in the hands.
:
: Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
: 30 years involved in electronics with a good
: 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
: amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some
: research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
: just might well be those of lead poisoning.


: So have you considered just getting a test done? There are real systems for
: Dx-ing and treating that sort of thing that don't involve guessing and eating
: odd weeds.

Your concern is heart warming. I'm beklept.



:
: I believe it was mercury that got the hatmakers.
:
: Are we to blame lead for some of the blithering rage, inchoate hatreds and
: shrieking, unending verbal spewage that we are subjected to around here.


So now you wanna blame lead poisoning for you and your cohorts
abuses of the good people of this newsgroup calling them traitors,
aiders and abbettors of terrorists, gutless cowards, dupes
of liberal media etc., etc., not to mention the underhanded and offensive
snide remarks about Canadians, the French, the Germans, etc., etc.

Sorry, but if MassiveProng is right, it's doubtful you'll be able to
use the side effects of lead toxicity as a scapegoat.

Although I must say, your apparent memory loss of the aformentioned
does make for a compelling case.


:
: They say it was the lead that caused house painters to become the drunks that
: they historically were. Is this refuted by the fact that so many painters are
: still drunks even though the lead is gone. Does it explain more of the drinking
: habits of some of our players around here.
:
: Get the fillings replaced with composite while you're at it. There's enough
: idiocy here already.
:
: Ron


Er, and just how will composite in my teeth cause you to leave?:


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: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:45:57 -0600, "Dave Moore"
: Gave us:
:
:
: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: : On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:18:58 GMT, "TT_Man" Gave
: : us:
: :
: :
: :
: : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings
: : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder
: : if some of the metal toxicity might also be
: : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum.
: :
: : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings
: : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem
: : to be keeping it in check.
: : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is
: : purported to have chelating properties.
: :
: :
: :
: : Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem ..........
: :
: :
: : Only if they were placed there by an incompetent dentist.
: :
: : A properly done mercury/silver amalgam filling gets over 95% of the
: : mercury squoze out during placement, and the rest is pretty well
: : trapped.
:
: So they say.
: Have you ever heard of the word Gullible?
:
:
: Have you ever heard of the word retard? It is basic physics,
: dip****.
:
: I see you are pulling the puppy dog stalker thing mow. **** off,
: dumbass, then DIE, of your lead poisoning, OR of your selenium binge.
:
: I think the latter would be a lot more amusing. They could bury you
: with your guitar across your body, and your fingers glued to the
: strings. You could no longer say that you missed any strings that
: way. D'oh!


Every 30 seconds or so another asshole is born.
But don't worry, I'm sure you can handle the competition.


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: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:58:03 -0600, "Dave Moore"
: Gave us:
:
:
: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: : On 7 Mar 2007 13:56:47 -0800, "The Librarian"
: : Gave us:
: :
: : On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote:
: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
: : post about my recent experience. So, since
: : I finally remembered;
: :
: : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would
: : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings.
: : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into
: : the edges of doorways on occasion,
: : instead of gracefully passing through them.
: : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like
: : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird
: : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness
: : in the hands.
: :
: : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
: : 30 years involved in electronics with a good
: : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
: : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some
: : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
: : just might well be those of lead poisoning.
: :
: : To make a long story short, for the last couple
: : of months I've been munching mass quantities
: : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day.
: : Also I've been supplementing with selenium.
: :
: : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that
: : can help rid the body of metals.
: : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing
: : my coordination has improved immensely
: : when playing the guitar, and no more
: : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late.
: :
: : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay
: : my experience anyway FWIW.
: :
: : I also read about how lead poisoning was what
: : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the
: : expression "Mad Hatter" came from.
: :
: : I thought it was mercury.
: :
: : This struck me a bit funny since my wife
: : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm
: : thinking about changing my screen name to
: : "The Mad Catter" :-)
: :
: : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings
: : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder
: : if some of the metal toxicity might also be
: : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum.
: :
: : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings
: : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem
: : to be keeping it in check.
: : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is
: : purported to have chelating properties.
: :
: : bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P
: :
: : Cilantro dental odor is more than a little foul. Mixed with
: : cigarette odor and you almost puke.
: :
: : Riding the bus in North San Diego County is a nightmare when it is
: : full of Mexican illegals on their way "home" from working the local
: : farms.
: :
: : Nauseating even. The odor, and the fact that "home" is here.
:
: Then there's the frijole factor to consider.
:
:
: Como esta frijole?
:
: Which is a funny way of saying how have you been. :-]

Don't you mean how have you bean ?




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You play pinball, and I'll play music. Appropriate, eh?
I'll let you play my old Gottleib...



Your name should be cower.


Robin Cower! Bridge of Frights!


So far the only music you have introduced into our group is
flatulence.


But at least I'm not a MassivePrawn, rubbing my
prawniness in everyone's faces...

You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease,
and need to flail your arms like a little dip****.


Me: picture. You: diddley.

Here... I'll clear it up for you...

That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way
means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it.


It is an example of rosin flux that has been 'activated'
via Zinc Chloride.

Just like John said, that **** is an acid flux, NOT rosin flux, and
regardless of what GC printed on the can, it is NOT meant for
electronics use.


No, it is not... it is activated rosin flux.

So take your clueless ass back to your geetar group where you
belong.

You pathetic, cringing little milksop.


Your flames lick me.... over and over.
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: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: : On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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: :
: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
: : post about my recent experience. So, since
: : I finally remembered;
: :
: : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would
: : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings.
: : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into
: : the edges of doorways on occasion,
: : instead of gracefully passing through them.
: : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like
: : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird
: : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness
: : in the hands.
: :
: : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
: : 30 years involved in electronics with a good
: : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
: : amp designs, might have taken it's toll.
: :
: : That's just stupid. For a definitive control, go to your doctor and
: : tell him you need a heavy metals screening. Check for lead, mercury,
:
:
:
:
: : and cadmium.
: :
: : You'll likely find very little. Metallic form lead is not
: : dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Cadmium has
: : been out of use in dangerous form for a long many years now... decades
: : even.
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : So I did some
: : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
: : just might well be those of lead poisoning.
: :
: : To make a long story short, for the last couple
: : of months I've been munching mass quantities
: : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day.
: : Also I've been supplementing with selenium.
: :
: : You can hurt yourself by taking too much of many vitamins. E and
: : selenium are just a couple. You should take no more than that found
: : in a normal multivitamin.
: :
: : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that
: : can help rid the body of metals.
: :
: : Better off merely getting a blood screening to find out if any of
: : your actions are even warranted at all.
: :
: : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing
: : my coordination has improved immensely
: : when playing the guitar, and no more
: : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late.
: :
: : Hahahaha... ever heard of placebo response?
: :
: : How about psychosomatic illness?
:
:
: Sure I've heard of such things.
: I've also heard of arrogant assholes.
: Enjoy your superiority, and go **** yourself.
:
:
: You take to friendly advice the same way a fly swims. They don't.


You call that friendly advice? Looks more like condescending
arrogance to me
Like as if you have some psychic ability to divine from afar
my ability to discern between imaginary and real problems
or symptoms.

You're the kind of self-important self-centered asshole
that thinks everything that happens to yourself is real but anything that
happens to anyone else is just the imaginings of a fool.
Crikey, I know the type. Arrogant know it all assholes like
you are a dime a dozen.


:
: Look, dip****! I'll BET you that you do NOT have a high lead count
: in your body.


Obviously, you are confusing me with somebody that give's a rats
ass about your asshole opinions.

:
: So keep chomping on selenium supplements, and succeed in ****ing
: yourself, dip****.
:
: Then one day, you could be like the BondsTard, and deny it, if
: you're still alive.
:
: Selenium is nothing to **** around with.

Why, you got rash on your sack ?

:
: Oh, and general age will take its toll on you no matter what you
: shove in your face, boy.

And you'll still be an asshole no matter what you claim to
the contrary or no matter how much supposed "friendly advice"
you shell out to try to cover it up with.


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"MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
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: "Stephen Cowell" wrote in message .. .
: :
: : "MassiveProng" wrote in
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: : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:33:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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: :
: : And why "**** up
: : a perfectly good antique " by ripping the heart and soul out of
: : it to replace each key contact set (14, is it) with SCRs... let's see,
: : 14x61x2 (great and swell)... 1708 SCRs. Ludicrous.
: :
: : You obviously have no clue as to the form factors available.
: :
: : I don't care if you put 300 of them in a package,
: : you still have to connect them. Still doesn't change
: : the requirement for 1700 some-odd devices.
: :
: : Also, if you are having your "Cadmium fingers", the ****ing thing
: : doesn't function properly to begin with.
: :
: : Actually, the circuit is so low impedance that it
: : *will* function with some shorting going on...
: : we installed the TrekII percussion kit (I'm *sure*
: : you're familiar with it) and it wouldn't trigger on
: : the top harmonic... we had to use the next one
: : down. That's when I found out about the fingers...
: : you can zap 'em with a charged up capacitor
: : if you want, we like the sound of having the top
: : harmonic there with perc. so we didn't bother.
: :
: : Simply switching to platinum contacts would solve it without the
: : switch to a low voltage design.
: :
: : Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the
: : leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning,
: : as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right?
: :
: : If these are antiques, what's a retard like you doing opening them up
: : anyway, dip****? You have all the capability of a freshly laid turd.
: :
: : As we can see, the anal fixation is strong in this
: : one.
: : __
: : Steve
:
:
: Crikey, this ****tard Massive throng or whatever, has an even bigger
: ego problem than I do :-)
:
:
: Oh boy... a lead guitarist wanna be.
:
: That is lead, not lead, dip****.

That's pretty damn funny


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"MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:36:51 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:33:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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: :
: : You play pinball, and I'll play music. Appropriate, eh?
: : I'll let you play my old Gottleib...
: :
: :
: : Your name should be cower.
: :
: : So far the only music you have introduced into our group is
: : flatulence.
: :
: : You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease,
: : and need to flail your arms like a little dip****.
: :
: : Here... I'll clear it up for you...
: :
: : That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way
: : means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it.
: :
: : Just like John said, that **** is an acid flux, NOT rosin flux, and
: : regardless of what GC printed on the can, it is NOT meant for
: : electronics use.
: :
: : So take your clueless ass back to your geetar group where you
: : belong.
: :
: : You pathetic, cringing little milksop.
:
:
: Yeah, you're right, he's wrong.
: You're still an asshole.
:
: And you don't think you are, dumb****?
:
: You are male, and human, right?
:
: If the answer is yes, then you ARE an asshole. Get used to it,
: dip****, or is your brain so befuddled that you cannot grasp the fact
: that you too are an asshole?


If I acknowledged that fact, then I wouldn't be.
So , you expect me to admit it ?


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You have aural induced brain damage.


Can't you find bigger words?


Wouldn't want to bruise what little brains you have, boy.


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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:55:52 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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Your old, rusty can of flux is as outdated as you are, and your amp,
and your ****ing mindset.


It owns you, as you've shown.



You're wrong. Get it through your head, dumb****. Zinc Chloride is
ACID flux.

As in NOT FOR ELECTRONICS.

As in NOT ROSIN.

Admit you were wrong, little boy.
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Face it, dip****, you presumed.


See the picture? Read it carefully... 'zinc chloride'.



Show me where it says "rosin", which is what you stated.

Well....???

That's right, dip****... bail out on the real issue, which was that
of you making an errant statement.

You didn't say "I have some flux which is Zinc Chloride, and that is
bad." You said "Rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it."

Guess what... You were wrong then, and until you admit it, you'll
remain in err.

So take you tin of PLUMBER'S FLUX and stick it up your ass.
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"Stephen Cowell" wrote in message t...
:
: "ehsjr" wrote in message
: news:W2ZHh.22453$tf.8859@trndny06...
: CompUser wrote:
: In article kfavu21bl2hefb9p7t17v3sn7hqj90duga@
: 4ax.com, says...
:
: Here, look at this picture...
:
:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/
:
:
:
: Again I say, you stupid ****:
:
: Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings.
:
: Also, do you have any clue as to how old that **** is?
:
:
:
: LoL! ...so if he shows another, will you ask for a third? And age has
: to do with...what?
:
: It looks like : Cowell 1, Prong 0
:
: Nope. Cowell produced a tin of ... what?
: To prove his point, which was "Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it"
: he needs to establish:
: 1) That the tin contains (or contained) flux
: 2) That the flux is rosin flux
:
:
: Even if we can assume 1 above is true, 2 is false.
:
: We aren't stupid... your assertion is simply
: that, Argumentum ad Assertum, or whatever
: the frick it is... anyway, I got picture.
:
: What he has (or had) in the tin, is acid flux.
:
: It says "Non-Corrosive Soldering Paste" on
: the front. It says "Radio Chemicals" on the
: back. The flux is a deep brown goo... and
: by golly, it smells just like rosin flux! And
: you know the best part... it works like a
: champ!
:
:
: The "contains zinc chloride" written on the label tells
: you that. So if you use your scoring system, it is
: Cowell 0, Prong 1
:
: Sorry, a real person *always* trumps a sock, especially
: when the sock is so patently offensive.
:
: But the "scoring" isn't the key point.
: The sad thing is the possible use by Mr. Cowell, yourself,
: or others of an acid flux on electronic gear.
:
: How about 'non-corrosive' flux? I *urge* all of you to
: go to Wikipedia and read up on 'activated' fluxes...
: or FOAD, for all I care. I just like kicking around
: someone that uses "MassivePrawn" for a handle.
: I'll probably get to heaven for it, even though I'm
: an atheist.
: __
: Steve


Why don't you just tell him to Flux off and die




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"MassiveProng" wrote in message ...
: On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:19:59 GMT, CompUser Gave
: us:
:
: In article kfavu21bl2hefb9p7t17v3sn7hqj90duga@
: 4ax.com,
:
: says...
:
: Here, look at this picture...
:
: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/
:
:
:
: Again I say, you stupid ****:
:
: Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings.
:
: Also, do you have any clue as to how old that **** is?
:
:
: LoL! ...so if he shows another, will you ask for
: a third?
:
: You're a bigger idiot than he is.
:
: And age has to do with...what?
:
: Well, dip****, when "GC" first came out, they were the consumer
: level cheap way to get things, and they weren't very bright.
:
: As clearly evidenced by them labeling an ACID flux as being for
: electronic use, when the ENTIRE world knows that it is NOT!
:
: So it looks like you can **** off too, you uneducated retard.
:
: It looks like : Cowell 1, Prong 0
:
: I suggest you visit an eye doctor then, you stupid ****tard.
:
: His claim that Zinc Chloride is in rosin flux is wrong. You need to
: learn that, dip****.


Phil,,, is that you ?


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You're the one that chose the setup name... 'MassivePrawn',


More lies from the now apparently total retard.

I think that was you I saw starring in the film "Total Retard".

adds an absurd touch,


The fact that your retarded ass morphed it does, yeah.

which takes your dullness and makes
it entertaining, in a massively small way.


Said the dope that has been soldering circuits for who knows how
many years with ****ing acid flux meant for plumbing use.

Good job, dip****. You should be indoctrinated into the kooktard
group, you ****ing kooktard.


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On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, "Xtrchessreal" wrote:

30 Years later I was researching my newly diagnosed ADHD and
found that mercury poisoning is suspected as a cause.


I knew of a late-teen with severe ADHD, on medication since age 8.
Extensive review of the medical literature, and knowledge of the
teen's diet led me to suspect deficiency of essential fatty acids
as a primary cause. Essential fatty acids are essential to
adolescent growth, and to brain function.

Encouraged by the success at:

http://www.durhamtrial.org/

an experiment was instituted with fatty acid supplements 20
months ago (end of June, 2005).

The teen stopped all medication. Life was hell for two weeks,
then slowly improved over the next four weeks.

The teen promptly grew from 5 ft to 5 ft 5.5 over the summer.
That's
5 1/2 inches in three months.

The kid now has complete relief of all ADHD, taking no
drugs. The kid is just a normal, cool, super-smart kid. As long
as the supplements are taken, that is. Kids being kids,
often the supplements are forgotten; symptoms return
over the next couple days. It's quite obvious. Restarting
the supplements fixes it. Always.

We also feel utter elimination of hydrgenated oils important, as
those compete with--and are preferentially utilized by the brain
over--the supplements, yet do not function as required.

Cheers,
James Arthur

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:04:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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We aren't stupid... your assertion is simply
that, Argumentum ad Assertum, or whatever
the frick it is... anyway, I got picture.



Yes, dumbass, we know.

You have the picture that PROVES that you are not talking about
ROSIN flux, as you claimed, and it also proves that you don't know a
goddamned thing about soldering technology or the materials used
therein.

Good job, dip****. Your picture proves YOU wrong.

You are an easy kill, dufus.

Kinda like Tom Cruise and the blind shot he made to win that game...

I didn't even have to try to beat you. You laid the path, then
strolled down it all by yourself, and you persist ad nauseum.
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It says "Non-Corrosive Soldering Paste" on
the front. It says "Radio Chemicals" on the
back. The flux is a deep brown goo... and
by golly, it smells just like rosin flux! And
you know the best part... it works like a
champ!


How would you know, never having used the proper media?

Prove that you "work like a chump". Same way you admit error...
like a chump. Like the chump you are.
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Sorry, a real person *always* trumps a sock, especially
when the sock is so patently offensive.



Where do these retards come from that make this stupid **** up?

Dude, you don't even rate 4-F!

I can sit here at the bar at the end of the universe, listening to
The Band, and the original Genesis and KNOW that I come from a time
when honor meant more to a man than life!

You, on the other hand, cannot even admit that you ****ing made an
errant assumption.

I am as real as it gets, ****er, and I don't go 'round morphing
quoted text like you do, so don't spew horse**** about being real in
Usenet, jackass. You rate "Real Troll" in that analysis.
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: :
: : I suppose I should mention that I started taking L-Carnitine
: : and Coenzyme Q-10 also. Not because of my suspicions about
: : possible lead poisoning, but simply because they're suppose to
: : be good for cell rejuvenation in general. At my ripe old age of
: : 52, one begins to think about such things :-)
: : So I suppose there's the possiblity that these supplements
: : mighta played a part in the turn around, dunno.
: :
: :
: : Try a good, hearty, fresh green salad twice a day.
: :
: : Not some little dish filler either. A PLATE FULL of salad.
: :
: : Graze in the pasture as it were.
:
: I've been eating large bowls of fresh veggies for over 20 years.
: I was into so-called 'health foods' before food was discovered.
:
:
: If that is the case, then it IS merely age and drugs as well as a
: bit of the power of suggestion.

I suggest you stop kidding yourself about knowing it all.

:
: There is no reason you would be "missing strings" then not so simply
: because you chowed on some selenium.


Cilantro , with small amounts of selenium on the side.

Ok, I'll entertain your retarded musings.

Before I started eating Cilantro there were several
other things I tried that I really thought were going to cure me.
They didn't. So, if your 'expert' "psychosomatic" diagnosis had
any merit, would not the other things that I expected to cure
me have cured me long before I started eating cilantro?

I'll admit, perhaps there could be more to the story. The symptoms
started to appear whilst I was taking medication to quit smoking.
I at the time thought it might have been related to the medication.
However, the symptoms persisted for 3 months after I discontinued
the medication.
So, I'm open minded to all of the possibilities.
But admittedly, I am having a difficult time with the
remote possibilitiy that you can from afar know more
about what's happening in my life than I do,
as you seem to think you do.




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"PassiveDong" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:11:47 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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"FlaccidProng" wrote in
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well, yes, as you point out, I *do* know a thing or three about
contacts, both leaf and reed. Have *you* ever had your hands
inside a Hammond Organ?


I worked at Baldwin, you retarded ****. **** Hammond.

I didn't think so... I used to have a Baldwin, once...
left it at the dump, no usable stuff inside. I suppose
you're the one that invented those silicon contacts?
The ones that are unobtainable, and render the unit
unrepairable (thank god, anyway!).



Let's see... google Hammond and get some lame electronic parts
place.

Google Baldwin, and get...


WHAT'S THIS?! A PIANO AND ORGAN COMPANY!

Imagine that. The dip**** clings to outdated CRAP like acid flux
(NOT ROSIN), which is not even meant for electronics, and Organs which
no longer have a maker.

You could be a bit more clueless, but not in this life.


That's pretty funny... you prefer Baldwins to Hammonds...
I'm imagining you with a Baldwin-like smirk on your face.
Sort of like preferring Teen Beat magazine to a da Vinci
painting, but in a smellier way.



Said the text morphing Usenet dope.

I read EE Times, and Sky and Telescope, and Scientific American, and
Linux Format, and Machine Design and NASA Tech Briefs, Etc.

I work on 30GHz Over The Horizon SatCom Networking systems. Any
smirk I give related to Baldwin is that of one at them for knowing
what they lost when I left there for greener pastures 25 years ago.

You sit and pound your pud all day.

I have done more to make the world a better place in the last 2
years than you will in your entire life, boy.

So admit you were wrong and move on, 4-F chump.
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"FlatulentPrawn" wrote in
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Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the
leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning,
as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right?



Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium
"fingers", dip****.


Why not just change the whole thing into a Baldwin?
Then it could be the *best*!

Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be
able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a
sig work properly.


MassivePrawn, I'm deeply touched that you would clue
me in about my .sig. That is *indeed* a sign of true
friendship... however, the sig I use has been good for
many years. Perhaps it's the cocktail sauce on your
monitor?


Snipped failed sig signifier

Steve



Idiot! If your sig was good, it would NOT be showing up in my
quoted text. I suggest you ask someone you know that can hold your
hand through the facts, because this is yet another area where you are
simply ****ing wrong, dip****.

See above for a clue as to why you are wrong.
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: On Mar 7, 1:29 pm, "Xtrchessreal" wrote:
:
: 30 Years later I was researching my newly diagnosed ADHD and
: found that mercury poisoning is suspected as a cause.
:
: I knew of a late-teen with severe ADHD, on medication since age 8.
: Extensive review of the medical literature, and knowledge of the
: teen's diet led me to suspect deficiency of essential fatty acids
: as a primary cause. Essential fatty acids are essential to
: adolescent growth, and to brain function.
:
: Encouraged by the success at:
:
: http://www.durhamtrial.org/
:
: an experiment was instituted with fatty acid supplements 20
: months ago (end of June, 2005).
:
: The teen stopped all medication. Life was hell for two weeks,
: then slowly improved over the next four weeks.
:
: The teen promptly grew from 5 ft to 5 ft 5.5 over the summer.
: That's
: 5 1/2 inches in three months.
:
: The kid now has complete relief of all ADHD, taking no
: drugs. The kid is just a normal, cool, super-smart kid. As long
: as the supplements are taken, that is. Kids being kids,
: often the supplements are forgotten; symptoms return
: over the next couple days. It's quite obvious. Restarting
: the supplements fixes it. Always.
:
: We also feel utter elimination of hydrgenated oils important, as
: those compete with--and are preferentially utilized by the brain
: over--the supplements, yet do not function as required.
:
: Cheers,
: James Arthur


Interesting info, thanks. I've found a tip that I'll relay.
The trick is to sip a tablespoon of canola ,walnut, or olive oil,
or some other (high in essential fatty acids) oil, about
30 minutes before a meal.
Supposedly this helps to release CCK
hormone which in turn signals the brain that it's satisfied.
Supposedly, you'll eat less 30 minutes later when meal
time comes. Certainly it couldn't hurt and may just have
other benefits.

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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:25:06 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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: : On 7 Mar 2007 13:56:47 -0800, "The Librarian"
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: : On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote:
: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
: : post about my recent experience. So, since
: : I finally remembered;
: :
: : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would
: : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings.
: : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into
: : the edges of doorways on occasion,
: : instead of gracefully passing through them.
: : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like
: : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird
: : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness
: : in the hands.
: :
: : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
: : 30 years involved in electronics with a good
: : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
: : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some
: : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
: : just might well be those of lead poisoning.
: :
: : To make a long story short, for the last couple
: : of months I've been munching mass quantities
: : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day.
: : Also I've been supplementing with selenium.
: :
: : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that
: : can help rid the body of metals.
: : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing
: : my coordination has improved immensely
: : when playing the guitar, and no more
: : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late.
: :
: : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay
: : my experience anyway FWIW.
: :
: : I also read about how lead poisoning was what
: : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the
: : expression "Mad Hatter" came from.
: :
: : I thought it was mercury.
: :
: : This struck me a bit funny since my wife
: : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm
: : thinking about changing my screen name to
: : "The Mad Catter" :-)
: :
: : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings
: : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder
: : if some of the metal toxicity might also be
: : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum.
: :
: : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings
: : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem
: : to be keeping it in check.
: : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is
: : purported to have chelating properties.
: :
: : bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P
: :
: : Cilantro dental odor is more than a little foul. Mixed with
: : cigarette odor and you almost puke.
: :
: : Riding the bus in North San Diego County is a nightmare when it is
: : full of Mexican illegals on their way "home" from working the local
: : farms.
: :
: : Nauseating even. The odor, and the fact that "home" is here.
:
: Then there's the frijole factor to consider.
:
:
: Como esta frijole?
:
: Which is a funny way of saying how have you been. :-]

Don't you mean how have you bean ?

No. The literal trans is "How are bean?" or How is bean?"

So the "Funny way of saying" refers to what it is supposed to mean
or be like, as in

"How have you been."
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:27:51 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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But at least I'm not a MassivePrawn, rubbing my
prawniness in everyone's faces...


I am more like an electric eel that has stunned you with the facts.
After you recover, maybe then you'll admit the mistake.

Since you keep morphing text, however, I doubt it. You lose 20 IQ
points every time you post. Not much left, Chucko.


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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:27:51 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease,
and need to flail your arms like a little dip****.


Me: picture. You: diddley.


Yes, you picture of proof that you ****ed up.

Me, knowledge of the industry.

Here... I'll clear it up for you...

That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way
means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it.


It is an example of rosin flux that has been 'activated'
via Zinc Chloride.


NOPE.
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:38:38 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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Like as if you have some psychic ability to divine from afar
my ability to discern between imaginary and real problems
or symptoms.



I soldered for years. Cast bullets, and fishing sinkers for years.

Had lead tests done a few years back with similar, but not quite so
paranoid thoughts as yours.

Not a trace. IIRC (hehehe that's a joke, son.) (Rooster
inflection). I remember the results.

So yeah... maybe a bit arrogant, but I do speak from knowledge and
experience. From your post title, I'd say the opposite of you in the
lead/body infusion regard anyway.

So pay head and get off the excessive selenium, if any, and get
tested, and move on.

You were probably just not as attentive that night, and WERE MORE
attentive on the subsequent session. Hence the psychosomatic
reference. No big deal if you don't make it one.
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:38:38 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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You're the kind of self-important self-centered asshole
that thinks everything that happens to yourself is real but anything that
happens to anyone else is just the imaginings of a fool.



I would venture to say that I have touched far far more lead than you
have, and even had many lunches right then and there, and I have no
lead in me.

What was that? I never called you a fool. Psychosomatic responses
are directly linked to suggestion. It is common, and you are no less
a man if that is what it was.
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:38:38 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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Crikey, I know the type. Arrogant know it all assholes like
you are a dime a dozen.



Hahahaha... Crikey?

Dude... I know what I know, and would not even have chimed in had I
not had first hand experience with the same "fears". I did some
studying however in this realm.

The amount of lead in the water table near police firing ranges is
no more than any other water table in a given region. Same thing true
for areas where lead is mined. So where is the problem?

We drink that water...
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:38:38 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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Obviously, you are confusing me with somebody that give's a rats
ass about your asshole opinions.



Apparently you do to some degree, or you wouldn't be responding so
angrily based on the mere fact that your fears are essentially
baseless.

There would be a HUGE statistical data reference if folks that
worked in electronics with direct exposure to metallic form lead were
having problems with high lead counts in their bodies, or any of the
associated illnesses surrounding high lead counts in their bodies.

In other words, dude... WE WOULD KNOW IF IT WERE A PROBLEM.
It has literally been over half a century since Western Electric had
the mothers of folks like you and me soldering their asses off with
even higher lead content alloys than we use now.

The making a mountain out of a dung beetle ball syndrome comes to
mind. That would be several orders of magnitude in size difference.

Yet more proof that RoHS is bull**** as well.
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