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Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to
post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. Thats widely believed to be due to mercury, not lead, as mercury-based compounds were used in the manufacture of felt hats in the 18th and 19th century. From what little I'v read on the subject, lead poisoning causes dimentia and sympotoms of general illness such as abdominal pain whereas mercury can cause more severe psychotic symptoms such as hallucinations. Bob |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore"
wrote: Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. ... So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. Dave, If you really think that your lead level may be that high, consider getting a blood test. They can also evaluate other heavy metals. If the symptoms are that noticeable, it's best to resolve that one way or the other, right? To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. If you really have high lead content, you'll probably get to take some strong chelating agents made with mercaptans. It will be great. (Known to clear an entire building due to the odor) I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. That would be mercury, but that would make for a great cocktail. BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. After denying possible problems for years, many dentists are now discontinuing use of mercury for some reason. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Hadn't heard that one. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On 7 Mar, 08:56, "Dave Moore" wrote:
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. sensible thing would be get a blood lead test, as you may be barking up the wrong tree otherwise. Or meowing. Is there genuine evidence for the chelating effects of the things you mention? Re nutritional supplements, lead does some of its harm by competing in the body with iron, calcium and zinc. Thus some of the effects can be reduced by increasing levels of these minerals to the upper end of what is healthy. In so doing one must also raise levels of the minerals iron, calcium and zinc compete with, to prevent deficiencies. Vitamin C is also a weak lead chelator. See wikipedia's lead poisoning article. But all this is only useful if you actually do have a lead problem. You need to find out, vague guesses arent much good. NT |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Dave Moore wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Alcohol ! Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Were you in the habit of licking your fingers while soldering ? Or chewing the solder ? If not forget lead. Graham |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it can be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away. There is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes used to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial asthma, and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic. The fluxes that are now being used with the new-fangled lead-free solder that has been forced on us in Europe as a result of new legislation, are quite acidic, and very aggressive compared to the previous rosin compounds, so bench ventilation is now rather more important than it was. It may be possible to suffer a degree of lead poisoning from continuous handling of the basic metal, although it is a fairly inert material that is not generally associated with absorption through the skin, unlike beryllium for instance which is used elsewhere in electronics. Some commentators have also refuted that there is any free lead toxicity issue with solder, as it is a stable alloy with tin, and chemically locked in. Even over 30 years of handling the stuff daily ( as indeed I have myself ), it is unlikely that you would have ingested as much lead as you would have from the exhausts of gasoline powered vehicles in say a year, prior to the switchover to unleaded some years back. Once you have metal deposits in your body, I understand that it is very difficult to drive them out, which is why this kind of toxicity is cumulative. There has been some suggestion that in ye olden tymes, people were lead-poisoned by drinking wine and cider from mugs made of pewter (traditionally, another tin / lead alloy of the ratio of about 4 :1, but can have other components also). The acidity of the drink supposedly broke down the alloy, and dissolved the lead, giving it a nice route into the body. Many people now seem to suffer "short-term memory loss". People everywhere joke about it. One of the games console makers have even brought out a memory training game that they have been advertising on tv over here using the TV presenter from "Millionaire". I know people who have never worked with solder in their lives, or any form of lead come to that, who claim that they can be thinking of something that they have to say, and by the time they come to say it, it's gone ... Sound familiar ? This is reaching epidemic proportions over here, so what's the cause ? Crap that they're putting in the food ? The water ? Genetically modded oils that they are cooking stuff in ? Much more worrying, I think, than lead from solder ... Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Dave Moore wrote:
Also I've been supplementing with selenium. There we are! Don't overdo it. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Selenium is an element in the same group as Sulphur. Don't mix up its use for rectifiers with hopefully medical effects. Regards, H. PS Medicine is the more effective the less we understand it. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On a sunny day (Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600) it happened "Dave Moore"
wrote in W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9: Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. It is normal at age 110, do not worry. On a more serious way, I too have been soldering for say 50 years, and yes, my postings... ;-) but anyways I can still stand still in the dark with my eyes closed as long as I want. Stay clear of the marijana though: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/03/06....ap/index.html hehe |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Arfa Daily wrote in message
... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to There has been some suggestion that in ye olden tymes, people were lead-poisoned by drinking wine and cider from mugs made of pewter (traditionally, another tin / lead alloy of the ratio of about 4 :1, but can have other components also). The acidity of the drink supposedly broke down the alloy, and dissolved the lead, giving it a nice route into the body. Many people now seem to suffer "short-term memory loss". People everywhere joke about it. One of the games console makers have even brought out a memory training game that they have been advertising on tv over here using the TV presenter from "Millionaire". I know people who have never worked with solder in their lives, or any form of lead come to that, who claim that they can be thinking of something that they have to say, and by the time they come to say it, it's gone ... Sound familiar ? This is reaching epidemic proportions over here, so what's the cause ? Crap that they're putting in the food ? The water ? Genetically modded oils that they are cooking stuff in ? Much more worrying, I think, than lead from solder ... Arfa The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
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Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. That's just stupid. For a definitive control, go to your doctor and tell him you need a heavy metals screening. Check for lead, mercury, and cadmium. You'll likely find very little. Metallic form lead is not dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Cadmium has been out of use in dangerous form for a long many years now... decades even. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. You can hurt yourself by taking too much of many vitamins. E and selenium are just a couple. You should take no more than that found in a normal multivitamin. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Better off merely getting a blood screening to find out if any of your actions are even warranted at all. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. Hahahaha... ever heard of placebo response? How about psychosomatic illness? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
In article ,
MassiveProng wrote: Metallic form lead is not dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Indeed. Even in areas where lead pipes are used for water there's little evidence of lead getting in the body. Lead compounds are a different matter. -- *If you lived in your car, you'd be home by now * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore"
wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Not likely lead. I work in the electronics manufacturing industry and have been soldering with lead-based solder since I was a kid. Not taking any precautions either. I got curious and got a lead test about a year ago. It found nothing. You must really have to eat the stuff for it to be absorbed. Steve Noll | The Used Hi Tech Equipment Dealer Directory: | http://www.big-list.com | Peltier Information Directory: | http://www.peltier-info.com |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore"
wrote: I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. Mercury poisoning, not lead poisoning... |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" wrote:
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. So have you considered just getting a test done? There are real systems for Dx-ing and treating that sort of thing that don't involve guessing and eating odd weeds. I believe it was mercury that got the hatmakers. Are we to blame lead for some of the blithering rage, inchoate hatreds and shrieking, unending verbal spewage that we are subjected to around here. They say it was the lead that caused house painters to become the drunks that they historically were. Is this refuted by the fact that so many painters are still drunks even though the lead is gone. Does it explain more of the drinking habits of some of our players around here. Get the fillings replaced with composite while you're at it. There's enough idiocy here already. Ron Effect pedal demo's up at http://www.soundclick.com/ronsonicpedalry |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 04:37:24 -0500, Rob wrote:
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" wrote: Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. ... So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. Dave, If you really think that your lead level may be that high, consider getting a blood test. They can also evaluate other heavy metals. If the symptoms are that noticeable, it's best to resolve that one way or the other, right? To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. If you really have high lead content, you'll probably get to take some strong chelating agents made with mercaptans. It will be great. (Known to clear an entire building due to the odor) I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. That would be mercury, but that would make for a great cocktail. BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. After denying possible problems for years, many dentists are now discontinuing use of mercury for some reason. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Seaweed...J.P. Hadn't heard that one. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:02:18 GMT, "Arfa Daily"
wrote: "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it can be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away. There is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes used to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial asthma, and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic. The fluxes that are now being used with the new-fangled lead-free solder that has been forced on us in Europe as a result of new legislation, are quite acidic, and very aggressive compared to the previous rosin compounds, so bench ventilation is now rather more important than it was. It may be possible to suffer a degree of lead poisoning from continuous handling of the basic metal, although it is a fairly inert material that is not generally associated with absorption through the skin, unlike beryllium for instance which is used elsewhere in electronics. Some commentators have also refuted that there is any free lead toxicity issue with solder, as it is a stable alloy with tin, and chemically locked in. Even over 30 years of handling the stuff daily ( as indeed I have myself ), it is unlikely that you would have ingested as much lead as you would have from the exhausts of gasoline powered vehicles in say a year, prior to the switchover to unleaded some years back. Once you have metal deposits in your body, I understand that it is very difficult to drive them out, which is why this kind of toxicity is cumulative. There has been some suggestion that in ye olden tymes, people were lead-poisoned by drinking wine and cider from mugs made of pewter (traditionally, another tin / lead alloy of the ratio of about 4 :1, but can have other components also). The acidity of the drink supposedly broke down the alloy, and dissolved the lead, giving it a nice route into the body. Many people now seem to suffer "short-term memory loss". People everywhere joke about it. One of the games console makers have even brought out a memory training game that they have been advertising on tv over here using the TV presenter from "Millionaire". I know people who have never worked with solder in their lives, or any form of lead come to that, who claim that they can be thinking of something that they have to say, and by the time they come to say it, it's gone ... Sound familiar ? This is reaching epidemic proportions over here, so what's the cause ? Crap that they're putting in the food ? The water ? Genetically modded oils that they are cooking stuff in ? Much more worrying, I think, than lead from solder ... Do not forget the possibility of virus damage that has not been discovered yet..J.P. Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Steve Noll wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Not likely lead. I work in the electronics manufacturing industry and have been soldering with lead-based solder since I was a kid. Not taking any precautions either. I got curious and got a lead test about a year ago. It found nothing. You must really have to eat the stuff for it to be absorbed. Steve Noll | The Used Hi Tech Equipment Dealer Directory: | http://www.big-list.com | Peltier Information Directory: | http://www.peltier-info.com I remember in the good ole days when i was a kid and we used to shine up coins with mercury............ Still alive. Maybe not smarter though....... ;) Bob ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem .......... |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... .... Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. .... Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it can be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away. There is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes used to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial asthma, and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic. Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it... I've been poisoned with zinc before (welding) and you need to drink milk for the chelating calcium in it. Bad sick headache... not sure of prolonged low-level exposure, but fume hoods are nice. __ Steve .. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... .... You'll likely find very little. Metallic form lead is not dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Cadmium has been out of use in dangerous form for a long many years now... decades even. Decades, eh? Guess the median age of the equipment we work on in AGA... __ Steve .. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Dave Moo
Soldering takes place at much too low temperature for solder to vaporize and fume. Most "lead" problems are a result of poor hygiene..... not washing your hands after handling circuit board and solder and BEFORE you handle food, pick your nose or your teeth or chew on your finger nails. Daniel Sofie |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. Has your wife been making "special health drinks" for you recently? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Mar 7, 1:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote:
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. I've done some research on this as well. Any heavy metal poisoning will eventually find its way to the nervous system. Once there it will stay and not be detectable in a blood test. So you have to go with other diagnostic methods. The chelating materials will help over a long time but metals are like sand in your shoes. You will never get rid of it completely. When I was about 10 my dad brought home a bottle of pure Mercury. He showed us how cool it was on a steel plate and warned us not to touch it. Nice of him huh? Later when he was not home we broke into the cabinet where it was and proceeded to play with it. "Oh cool how it beads up in your hands, see how it pours from one hand to the other!" We did that for several hours until all of it had dissipated or fell on the floor etc. Vapors are supposed to worse since it gets directly into the blood stream via your lung. Never said anything to my dad and he was never curious about the empty bottle. Nothing ever came of it. 30 Years later I was researching my newly diagnosed ADHD and found that mercury poisoning is suspected as a cause. And a little memory suddenly snapped up from my past. I made a Doc appointment and had several viles of blood taken for a wide variety of tests but nothing was abnormal. I took a bunch of chelating minerals and vitamins for several months but never noticed a difference. I may have had an acute mercury poisoning when I was 10 but over time one incident may not be as significant. Breathing lead on a regular basis may have more of an impact. I would think that if it were that damaging that all kinds of safe handling practices would be implemented even controlled. But, it would not be the first time a known toxic substance was sold to the public without any warnings. X |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote:
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. I thought it was mercury. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Mar 7, 5:37 am, "N Cook" wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to There has been some suggestion that in ye olden tymes, people were lead-poisoned by drinking wine and cider from mugs made of pewter (traditionally, another tin / lead alloy of the ratio of about 4 :1, but can have other components also). The acidity of the drink supposedly broke down the alloy, and dissolved the lead, giving it a nice route into the body. Many people now seem to suffer "short-term memory loss". People everywhere joke about it. One of the games console makers have even brought out a memory training game that they have been advertising on tv over here using the TV presenter from "Millionaire". I know people who have never worked with solder in their lives, or any form of lead come to that, who claim that they can be thinking of something that they have to say, and by the time they come to say it, it's gone ... Sound familiar ? This is reaching epidemic proportions over here, so what's the cause ? Crap that they're putting in the food ? The water ? Genetically modded oils that they are cooking stuff in ? Much more worrying, I think, than lead from solder ... Arfa The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list onhttp://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - that's interesting. I swear milk tastes better.different packaged in glass bottles. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Furthermore, folklore has given rise to the use of various high sulfur
foods as "chelating agents". These include onions, garlic, green foods and sea-weeds. Sulfur supplements like MSM or NAC have also been used. These are not actually chelating agents, as chelators involve multiple bonds to the metal atom and these foods and supplements involve compounds that are only mono-thiols. Cilantro has also been introduced [3] and is present in numerous alternative medications like "PCA-Rx", "Metal-Free" (both of which also contain ALA) and "NDF". Since no one seems to know what chelating substances may or may not be in cilantro, and since chelators can be dangerous due to their movement of neurotoxic heavy-metals, they should be approached with caution. In general Cilatro consists of an extract of Coriander fructus, being a plant cultivated in The Netherlands, France, Germany, Italy, Russia. The ingredient used by pharmacists and doctors is an etheric oil (0,5% w/w). Main part of this oil is (+)-Linalool (60% w/v). The chemical name of Linalool is 3,7-dimethyl-1-6-octadien-3-ol. It is also called Coriandroleum, reflecting its origin from Coriander fructus. The boiling point of Linalool ist 198 - 200 degrees Celsius. Other ingredients of the oil are Limonen, Geraniol, Citronellol, and Borneol, all having a similar chemical structure as Linalool, i.e. they are terpenes. Another molecule present in the oil is trans- tridecen-2-al-1 an aldehyde, being responsible for the tpical smell of Fructus coriander (like bugs). Geraniol is the isomeric form of Linalool and found in the oil of rose and palmarosa. The pharmacological action of terpenes such as Linalool is mainly spasmolytic and carminative. Similar action are known from the etheric oils of Fructus chamomillae and Fructus foeniculi. Due to the combintion of spasmolytic and carminative action of the terpenes heavy metals are excreated via increasing the renal flux and the G.I. tract. Neither Fructus coriander nor terpenes are capable of chelating heavy metals such as mercury or lead due to the lack of sulfur, nitrogen, or an organic acid structure within the chemical molecule. Fructus coriander is present in Mexican salsa and can kill bacteria such as Salmonella typhi. Similar pharmacological action are transmitted by the oil of Carvi fructus, i.e. Carvi aethericum. Spasmolytic and carminative acting remedies should be used carefully for detoxification of heavy metals, because of the lack of chelating power. If the concentration of heavy metals in the urine increases to over 17 microgramm / gramm creatinine then the epithelium of the promimal tubulus of the kidney might be destroyed by the heavy metal, since it is not "detoxified " by a chelating agent. Lesions of the epithelium are, hoewever, reversible. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Mar 7, 3:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote:
Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Before you start fooling around with dangerous selenium compounds read this excerpt from on the the selenium compound MSDS sheets. Animals have died from eating plants containing as little as 5 PPM of selenium. Just recently there was a recall because some company accidentally let sunburned potatoes be bagged and sold to the consumer. Not nice stuff at all! Selenium compounds are poison by inhalation and intravenous routes. Some selenium compounds are experimental carcinogens. Long-term exposure may be a cause of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis in humans, just as it may cause "blind staggers" in cattle. Elemental Selenium has low acute systemic toxicity, but dust or fumes can cause serious irritation of the respiratory tract. Inorganic selenium compounds can cause dermatitis. Garlic odor of breath is a common symptom. Pallor, nervousness, depression, digestive disturbances and death have been reported in cases of chronic exposure (Sax, Dangerous Properties of Industrial Materials, eighth edition). |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Stephen Cowell" wrote in message . net... "Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... ... Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. ... Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it can be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away. There is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes used to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial asthma, and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic. Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it... I've been poisoned with zinc before (welding) and you need to drink milk for the chelating calcium in it. Bad sick headache... not sure of prolonged low-level exposure, but fume hoods are nice. __ Steve . That's a new one on me. I had always understood rosin to be a fairly benign material - at least when not heated up - made from naturally occuring pine resin. Is the zinc chloride something that has been added in to make the rosin suitable for some specific purpose ? Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:05:44 GMT, Steve Noll
Gave us: Not likely lead. I work in the electronics manufacturing industry and have been soldering with lead-based solder since I was a kid. Not taking any precautions either. I got curious and got a lead test about a year ago. It found nothing. You must really have to eat the stuff for it to be absorbed. Not even then. Metallic form lead is simply not that hazardous. The "white lead" in a car battery gleans off surface molecules pretty badly, and I wouldn't want to handle that much, and the old lead hatters used to use got a lot of "free molecules" in their bodies by touch, and food handling, but these modern alloys, as well as simple bullet lead are not that big a problem... at all. Many gun shot wound treatments have occasions where they don't bother committing to surgery to remove the bullet. Only to patch up the damage it did in its path to its resting point. Shotgun pellets get left in a lot of cases as well. Our body fluids "temper" the surface too, and then no lead gleans off, if any did to begin with. I too have soldered for years, and for one thing, there is No lead in the smoke that rises. That is volatized flux... PERIOD. The melting point of lead yields no fumes that contain lead. One would have to boil it. Now Mercury, is liquid at room temp, and has a very low boiling point, and is VERY dangerous when boiling. Lead alloy solders are completely safe... RoHS sucks and is a ruse to buck up the euro dollar, and force the world to re-tool and re-chem all their processes. Nothing more. BIG waste of money, and I am glad I work in a segment of the industry that is exempt. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:12:31 -0500, PeterD Gave
us: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" wrote: I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. Mercury poisoning, not lead poisoning... They ALSO suffered from lead infusion problems from the hat bands, not merely their use of mercury with other aspects of old world style hat making crafts. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Steve Noll" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Not likely lead. I work in the electronics manufacturing industry and have been soldering with lead-based solder since I was a kid. Not taking any precautions either. I got curious and got a lead test about a year ago. It found nothing. You must really have to eat the stuff for it to be absorbed. Steve Noll | The Used Hi Tech Equipment Dealer Directory: Talking of eating the stuff ... When I was a kid, myself and a couple of friends all had air guns, that we used to take out with us on all day forays during the school summer holidays. We used to buy a box of lead pellets each, and tip great wads of them into our mouths, because it was quicker to snatch a nice spit-lubricated reload from your mouth, than it was to rummage amongst the fluff and half eaten jelly babies in your pockets ... We used to roll these things around in our mouths for hours. 40 years on, I'm still here, and my brain is still less addled than even my own ( apparently well-educated ) kids ! If lead was all that easily ingested, then my pellet activities, coupled with living in a house with all lead water pipes for the first 21 years of my life, must have ensured that I now weigh several pounds heavier than I really should ... !! Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"TT_Man" wrote in message ... BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem .......... With the amount of amalgam in my mouth, I reckon that I must already be two points to the right of dead then ... Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"The Librarian" wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. I thought it was mercury. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P "Librarian" as in Unseen University ? Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:18:58 GMT, "TT_Man" Gave
us: BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem .......... Only if they were placed there by an incompetent dentist. A properly done mercury/silver amalgam filling gets over 95% of the mercury squoze out during placement, and the rest is pretty well trapped. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Arfa Daily" wrote in message ... That's a new one on me. I had always understood rosin to be a fairly benign material - at least when not heated up - made from naturally occuring pine resin. Is the zinc chloride something that has been added in to make the rosin suitable for some specific purpose ? I recall making some for a PC production line from water white rosin. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message
... BIG waste of money, and I am glad I work in a segment of the industry that is exempt. You really aren't. Sure, you might not be required to produce RoHs-compliant products, but you'll find that already many parts are no longer available in non-RoHs packages, requiring higher temperatures for soldering, and within a few years here nothing will be available that isn't that way. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:35:31 -0600, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... ... You'll likely find very little. Metallic form lead is not dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Cadmium has been out of use in dangerous form for a long many years now... decades even. Decades, eh? Guess the median age of the equipment we work on in AGA... Nickel Cadmium, a typical electronics plating media, is NOT one of the dangerous types, and is likely the most common you'll see in older equipment. The dangerous uses have indeed been out for a long time, and the places where more pure bits of cadmium were used is not likely in the gear you refer to. Certainly not on its exterior. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:08:26 -0800, "Sofie" Gave us:
Dave Moo Soldering takes place at much too low temperature for solder to vaporize and fume. Correct. Most "lead" problems are a result of poor hygiene..... not washing your hands after handling circuit board and solder and BEFORE you handle food, pick your nose or your teeth or chew on your finger nails. Utter bull****. Solder joint do not glean off lead molecules. None one could gain any count of anyway. Now spend a day forming semi-rigid SMA coax cables that are unsheathed, and you will see some gray film on the fingers. I spent the day in ARack, but I am no hero... :-] |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On 7 Mar 2007 13:29:49 -0800, "Xtrchessreal"
Gave us: When I was about 10 my dad brought home a bottle of pure Mercury. He showed us how cool it was on a steel plate and warned us not to touch it. Nice of him huh? I have 3.5 pounds of it, and use it to demonstrate buoyancy of heavy metallic objects, among other things. |
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