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Dave Moore March 10th 07 02:31 AM

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: Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
: 30 years involved in electronics with a good
: 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
: amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some
: research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
: just might well be those of lead poisoning.
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: ...
:
: Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it
: can
: be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when
: soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away.
: There
: is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes
: used
: to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial
: asthma,
: and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic.
:
: Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it... I've been poisoned with
: zinc before (welding) and you need to drink milk for
: the chelating calcium in it. Bad sick headache... not sure
: of prolonged low-level exposure, but fume hoods are nice.
: __
: Steve
: .
:
: That's a new one on me. I had always understood rosin to be a fairly
: benign
: material - at least when not heated up - made from naturally occuring
: pine
: resin. Is the zinc chloride something that has been added in to make the
: rosin suitable for some specific purpose ?
:
: Arfa
:
:
:
: Zinc Chloride is used in plumbers flux, ie Acid flux paste. Not something
: you want on or near electronics, even wires for that matter.
:
: You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?
:
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldering
:
:
: Traditional rosin fluxes are available in non-activated (R), mildly
: activated (RMA) and activated (RA) formulations. RA and RMA fluxes contain
: rosin combined with an activating agent, typically an acid, which increases
: the wettability of metals to which it is applied by removing existing
: oxides. The residue resulting from the use of RA flux is corrosive and must
: be cleaned off the piece being soldered. RMA flux is formulated to result in
: a residue which is not significantly corrosive, with cleaning being
: preferred but optional.
: /
:
: I have a jar of RMA rosin flux... I assure you that it
: contains zinc chloride.
: __
: Steve


Naw Steve, what you have is a psychomatic
hallucination induced by the power of suggestion ;-)



MassiveProng March 10th 07 02:45 AM

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:47:03 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You see, MassivePrawn, your name itself is so
offensive that I can do no wrong, as long as I'm
spoofing you.



It's a pool cue, dumb****.

If you are offended by someone else's nym, you are even more
retarded than I initially estimated.

Dude... you are ****ing stoopid!

Dumber than dog ****. No more mature than a freshly laid turd
either!

MassiveProng March 10th 07 02:46 AM

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:47:03 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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We knew before the characters
came out of your keyboard that you sucked...
because of the ****ty name you chose.



So, how many split personalities did the doc say that you have,
retard boy?

Bwuahahahahaha!

You are one presumptuous ****tard.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 02:47 AM

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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:47:03 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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It helps
ever-so-much that you are a complete asshole...
you have no clue how much.



Is that all you got, pussy boy?

MassiveProng March 10th 07 02:49 AM

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"SpasticFling" wrote in
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:27:51 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease,
and need to flail your arms like a little dip****.

Me: picture. You: diddley.


Yes, you picture of proof that you ****ed up.

Me, knowledge of the industry.

Here... I'll clear it up for you...

That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way
means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it.

It is an example of rosin flux that has been 'activated'
via Zinc Chloride.


NOPE.


Is too, MassivePrawn!



It is referred to BY THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY as ACID FLUX, and it is NOT
SUITABLE for electronic assembly.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 02:56 AM

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Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps
30 years involved in electronics with a good
20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar
amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some
research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms
just might well be those of lead poisoning.

...

Lead as a metal does not fume at soldering temperatures, such that it

can
be ingested in that way. The fumes and vapour that you see when
soldering, are from the flux contained in the solder, burning away.

There
is some evidence that prolongued exposure to the rosin based fluxes

used
to date, can cause respiratory tract ailments such as industrial

asthma,
and may in extreme circumstances be carcinogenic.

Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it... I've been poisoned with
zinc before (welding) and you need to drink milk for
the chelating calcium in it. Bad sick headache... not sure
of prolonged low-level exposure, but fume hoods are nice.
__
Steve
.

That's a new one on me. I had always understood rosin to be a fairly

benign
material - at least when not heated up - made from naturally occuring pine
resin. Is the zinc chloride something that has been added in to make the
rosin suitable for some specific purpose ?

Arfa



Zinc Chloride is used in plumbers flux, ie Acid flux paste. Not something
you want on or near electronics, even wires for that matter.



Tell that to the GuiTard, that not only thinks he can play, but
thinks his acid flux is used in the electronics industry.

He could be a little more retarded, just not in this life.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 03:02 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?



Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature, but in no
way does that make your remark that all rosin flux has ZnCl in it true
in any way shape or form.

Get a clue, dumb****... you were and still are WRONG!

Here, you stupid *******. READ and weep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_%28metallurgy%29

MassiveProng March 10th 07 03:04 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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I have a jar of RMA rosin flux... I assure you that it
contains zinc chloride.


No, dumb****.

RMA (MILDLY ACTIVATED),

and Zinc Chloride, a VERY ACTIVE acid, are mutually exclusive.

Get it through your head, dip****.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 03:07 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:39:05 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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"PassiveThong" wrote in
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Now I *know* you're lame... that **** curdles the
mind. I had college roomies whacked out on the
Band and Genesis... sad sight (and sounds, too).



You're an idiot. As I said, I was NOT talking about Phil Baby's
crap, I was talking about the original.


Phil was in the Band?


That would be "The Band", dip****, and NO, I never said that, you
retarded ****head.

MassivePrawn, as stoned Stan Marsh: "Phil Collins rocks
the house"... limply.

Phil should have stayed a drummer. At that, he was good.


I'm sure his Oscar thanks you....


He's a ****ing commercial retard. Sold out years ago.

Peter Gabriel, on the other hand never did...

Where are all your albums at, Mr. CritiqueTard?

That's what I thought.

You lose.... again.


I only lose time, kicking giant shrimp... smelly!


Yes... die already, dumb****. Eat **** first.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 03:09 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:41:12 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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Not when it contains rosin... go read the Wiki I posted.
That crap in your tin is white... mine is deep brown.


Now go read the wiki *I* posted, dip****, and find out just how
wrong you are.

Tell us, dip****, just when did the industry start making electronic
parts and circuit boards from galvanized iron?

MassiveProng March 10th 07 03:16 AM

The Clapton show in Denver
 
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:01:05 -0600, "Dave Moore"
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You call that a brush with celebrity?, Clapton running like
hell to get away from the asshole?
:

Do you guitards all bicker like little pussies like this all the
time in that group?

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 04:08 AM

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"GassivePlong" wrote in
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You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?



Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature,


Then FOAD, *completely*, MassivePrawn, before I
shame you again. I win.
__
Steve
..



MassiveProng March 10th 07 04:13 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:08:56 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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"GassivePlong" wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?



Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature,


Then FOAD, *completely*, MassivePrawn, before I
shame you again. I win.


The only thing you have won is the award for being the most immature
adult aged dip**** in Usenet.

You were wrong. You are STILL wrong, dumb****.

I have wiki, and it shoots down your photo, AND you wiki reference,
which, btw, ALSO proves you wrong, dumbass!

Me and the rest of the world wins against your bullheaded baby
bull****, hands down.

Now, go back to slobbering on your speaker nuts.

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 04:14 AM

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"MassiveProng" wrote in
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"PassiveThong" wrote in
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Now I *know* you're lame... that **** curdles the
mind. I had college roomies whacked out on the
Band and Genesis... sad sight (and sounds, too).


You're an idiot. As I said, I was NOT talking about Phil Baby's
crap, I was talking about the original.


Phil was in the Band?


That would be "The Band", dip****, and NO, I never said that, you
retarded ****head.


Then why do you jump, froggie?

MassivePrawn, as stoned Stan Marsh: "Phil Collins rocks
the house"... limply.

Phil should have stayed a drummer. At that, he was good.


I'm sure his Oscar thanks you....


He's a ****ing commercial retard. Sold out years ago.

Peter Gabriel, on the other hand never did...


And "So" was better than any lamb lies down crap...
*that's* when he got my attention.


Where are all your albums at, Mr. CritiqueTard?

That's what I thought.

You lose.... again.


I only lose time, kicking giant shrimp... smelly!


Yes... die already, dumb****. Eat **** first.


hee hee.... that's didididit dit dit didididit dit dit to you...
__
Steve
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 04:22 AM

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"PrassiveMong" wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:41:12 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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Not when it contains rosin... go read the Wiki I posted.
That crap in your tin is white... mine is deep brown.


Now go read the wiki *I* posted, dip****, and find out just how
wrong you are.


You've already admitted that my flux is rosinous...
I never made a claim about electronics in any way.

I win.

It *is*, however, electronics flux of the RMA
variety... 'non-corrosive' on the top of the tin.
And I assure you that it kicks major flux ass, what
with that touch of Zinc Chloride in it. I will also
admit that it should be cleaned off after use.

If you went into an electronics shop in the '60s,
you'd find one of these tins... and some poor
schlobb sniffing the fumes of such. I don't
know about the long-term hazards, but I *do*
know, first-hand, about 'zinc headache'... and
it *does* suck, bigtime. Doesn't take much,
and I only got a small taste (thank FSM!).
It was from welding, not soldering.
__
Steve
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 04:45 AM

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well, yes, as you point out, I *do* know a thing or three about
contacts, both leaf and reed. Have *you* ever had your hands
inside a Hammond Organ?
I worked at Baldwin, you retarded ****. **** Hammond.
I didn't think so... I used to have a Baldwin, once...
left it at the dump, no usable stuff inside. I suppose
you're the one that invented those silicon contacts?
The ones that are unobtainable, and render the unit
unrepairable (thank god, anyway!).
Let's see... google Hammond and get some lame electronic parts
place.
Google Baldwin, and get...
WHAT'S THIS?! A PIANO AND ORGAN COMPANY!
Imagine that. The dip**** clings to outdated CRAP like acid flux
(NOT ROSIN), which is not even meant for electronics, and Organs
which
no longer have a maker.
You could be a bit more clueless, but not in this life.
That's pretty funny... you prefer Baldwins to Hammonds...
I'm imagining you with a Baldwin-like smirk on your face.
Sort of like preferring Teen Beat magazine to a da Vinci
painting, but in a smellier way.
Said the text morphing Usenet dope.

MassivePrawn, you can end all this by going away...
but I don't think you can. Like a car wreck.

**** you telling people where they can post.


Post up your ass, MassivePrawn. Post there.

You have to be one of the most retarded Usenet posters I have seen
in some time. Your little morphisms proves that, then you take it to
a new plane of stupidity by actually thinking that you can order
others around.


Either get creative, or get more lame. Either way, you
*are* my *bitch*, now, because *I win*. Rosinous!
Can I quote you, in case you coined that term?

Watch out... a monolith might fall on you, monkey boy.


Is scatology Stage 3, and Physical Threats Stage 4? I forget...
been so long since I took someone through all the stages.

You prove with every post you make that you are no more than a drug
addled old stupid **** from way back.


Sniffing Rosinous(tm) solder smoke to boot!

I prefer discourse with folks that have at least ten percent of their
brain tissue in functioning order.


Then why are you so Ficking Owned?

You don't rate, dip****. Maybe it was all the Zinc Chloride flux
fumes you have been inhaling like a ****ing retard.


A Car Wreck. You Can't Turn Away. Owned.
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Steve
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I read EE Times, and Sky and Telescope, and Scientific American, and
Linux Format, and Machine Design and NASA Tech Briefs, Etc.


??? Is that what makes you a MassivePrawn?

I work on 30GHz Over The Horizon SatCom Networking systems. Any
smirk I give related to Baldwin is that of one at them for knowing
what they lost when I left there for greener pastures 25 years ago.


Hey, they're still in business! And you're being trolled by
a Usenet Dope (tm)! Have you no life?

And 30GHz is for pikers! That was middling frequency on
my VLBA dish... oh, I forgot to mention, I was chief
site tech in Fort Davis for four years. How's *your*
25m radio-telescope? Oh, you don't have one? How sad...

You sit and pound your pud all day.


And this is supposed to be bad *how*?

I have done more to make the world a better place in the last 2
years than you will in your entire life, boy.


Slowly committing suicide, eh?

So admit you were wrong and move on, 4-F chump.


I got picture, and Wiki! Your gal ain't doodley squat.
__
Steve
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MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:02 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:14:22 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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And "So" was better than any lamb lies down crap...
*that's* when he got my attention.


You're an idiot The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway was GENESIS, you
stupid ****!

And Peter Gabriel's best works were ALL of his first albums,
certainly not "So".

Also, TLLDOB was one of the best albums ever made, but I wouldn't
expect a twit like you to be able to grasp the depth which it has.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:03 AM

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"MongPrassive" wrote in
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And 30GHz is for pikers!


You're an idiot.


Stage 3!

You could never even approach 10Gb/s comms in your pathetic day, and
your commander would shoot you if you tried using acid flux on his
gear.


Fearless Leader would indeed shoot me.... except that
there's plenty of plumbing in a modern radio-telescope.
Now if you'd have specified 'electronics gear' you might
have a point... otherwise, just more mouth poo.

That was middling frequency on
my VLBA dish... oh, I forgot to mention, I was chief
site tech in Fort Davis for four years.



Chief of stupidity perhaps... that's about it.
Whoopie ****in doo.


Trumps the *livin' ***** out of 'worked for Baldwin'...
here, let me snicker (*snicker*)... 'Baldwin'...
ĄTu Estas pe*LON*!

How's *your*
25m radio-telescope?


Don't need one. We gots Chandra, dip****.
Radio observations are old hat. We *se* black holes and such these
days.


For someone that supposedly reads S&T, you
are among the cluelessest I've ambulated amongst.
And what you are doing with that french word and
a 'black hole' I want to stay away from.

I hereby make a prediction.... you are *not* a Ham.
I can smell it... hams know about the spectrum as
a resource. Even though they abuse it highly : ) .

Oh, you don't have one? How sad...


You're out of tune, little boy.
My company likely built the one you merely *used*.


NRAO builds stuff out of modules... maybe you
touched one? Everything else is wire-wrapped or
otherwise custom, or off-shelf (Honeywell 1" tape,
18000'! 1.4Mb per inch!).

That's all you amount to... a USER. And a pretty sad one at that.


MassivePrawn, I tire of your dullness. Don't you
have a creative bone in your body? Say something
funny!

You're an E-1 grade putz. That's what you rate, dumbass. It has
nothing to do with what some other incompetent twit may have promoted
you to.


See what I mean? Simple put-downs... grade 0.5 flames.
What about the Rosinous Rosiny Rosin? With ZnCl2?
__
Steve
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:11 AM

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"AssiveRong" wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:47:03 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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I see that you finally learned how to edit text...
if I wanted my sig gone, I know what to do.
****ing you off is just a bonus.


Who ever said that I was ****ed off, you utter ****ing clueless
retard?


Language! That's what tells me.... your potty mouth.

You "know" nothing. You ****ed up, and you can't even admit that.


There is a flaw in my reasoning... and none of you
pikers has found it. If you wait long enough, I'll
throw you a bone, doggie. I wrote that **** high,
tired, and late at night... and managed to clean
your clock with it.

You epitomize the term "bullheaded".


Who is the bull, the one pounding skull
or the one providing the immovable object?

BTW, I'm not reading your multiple posts,
only the first one. If you actually manage
to make a point, or say something funny,
please do it in your first reply.
__
Steve
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MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:12 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:22:15 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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"PrassiveMong" wrote in
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:41:12 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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Not when it contains rosin... go read the Wiki I posted.
That crap in your tin is white... mine is deep brown.


Now go read the wiki *I* posted, dip****, and find out just how
wrong you are.


You've already admitted that my flux is rosinous...
I never made a claim about electronics in any way.


No. You said "rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it."

Which is totally false.

Your flux has Zinc Chloride in it.

Show me ANY rosin solder flux that has it.

Well...? I, and several others are waiting?

That's what I thought. YOU LOSE, dip****!

I win.


You win the mature as a freshly laid turd award. That's about it

It *is*, however, electronics flux of the RMA
variety... 'non-corrosive' on the top of the tin.


Nope. Zinc Chloride, and NON-corrosive are mutually exclusive. Can
you even grasp that concept, much less that fact?

And I assure you that it kicks major flux ass,


You're an idiot.

what
with that touch of Zinc Chloride in it.



NOT for electronics, dumb****.

Did you even RAED the FLUX wiki page? You whimpy, pussy *******!

I will also
admit that it should be cleaned off after use.


NOT for use on electronic circuits, dip****. PERIOD, as in NOT IN
ANY WAY.

If you went into an electronics shop in the '60s,
you'd find one of these tins...


No, I would not, because IF I ever did, I would never visit that sad
excuse for an electronics shop ever again, you retarded ****.

and some poor
schlobb sniffing the fumes of such.


Nope. That **** you have their is in NO WAY anything like Proper,
in wide use RMA flux at that time. You lose again.

I don't
know about the long-term hazards,


We do. You and your stupidity are a prime example.

but I *do*
know, first-hand, about 'zinc headache'...


Bwuahahahahahahaha! That tells a lot!

and
it *does* suck, bigtime.


You probably tried to get off on it, and lost.

Doesn't take much,
and I only got a small taste (thank FSM!).
It was from welding, not soldering.


You're an idiot. You are not funny, and you are about as mature
as a banana nub just getting started on the tree.

I find it amazing how someone can reach your numerical age, and
still not have attained adulthood.

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:13 AM

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"MassiveWrong" wrote in
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"SpasticFling" wrote in
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 03:27:51 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease,
and need to flail your arms like a little dip****.

Me: picture. You: diddley.

Yes, you picture of proof that you ****ed up.

Me, knowledge of the industry.

Here... I'll clear it up for you...

That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way
means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it.

It is an example of rosin flux that has been 'activated'
via Zinc Chloride.

NOPE.


Is too, MassivePrawn!



It is referred to BY THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY as ACID FLUX, and it is NOT
SUITABLE for electronic assembly.


Is too, MassivePrawn!
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Steve
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MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:24 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:03:50 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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Fearless Leader would indeed shoot me.... except that
there's plenty of plumbing in a modern radio-telescope.


None of which is soldered with acid flux, dumb****, much less Zinc
Chloride based acid flux.

Dude, that retarded remark topped all the rest. You have proven
that you know abso-****ing-lutely nothing about electronics, much less
metallurgy.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:27 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:03:50 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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I hereby make a prediction.... you are *not* a Ham.
I can smell it... hams know about the spectrum as
a resource. Even though they abuse it highly : ) .


You're an idiot. What you smell is your upper lip, dip****.

I design and work on gear that you will NEVER see.

I doubt you even know what TCP/IP means, much less IP encryption.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:29 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:03:50 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
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NRAO builds stuff out of modules... maybe you
touched one? Everything else is wire-wrapped or
otherwise custom, or off-shelf (Honeywell 1" tape,
18000'! 1.4Mb per inch!).



Bwuahahahahahaah! You are as bad as BAH. You two should get
together!

Hahahaha... wire wrapped!

You're an Alzheimer's commercial.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:33 AM

Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
 
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:54 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

Who ever said that I was ****ed off, you utter ****ing clueless
retard?


Language! That's what tells me.... your potty mouth.



You cannot even assess a tin of acid flux, what makes you think you
can properly assess someone's mood from miles away based on a Usenet
post?

Wow, dude... you REALLY ARE RETARDED!

What a shame.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:38 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:54 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

There is a flaw in my reasoning... and none of you
pikers has found it.



Sure. I iterated it OVER AND OVER.

You inferred that ALL rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it, and

A: That is NOT, nor has it ever been true. and

B: ACID flux, which is what you have, is in no way meant for use in
electronic assemblies. I don't care what the retarded maker printed
on the can, you stupid ****tard!

And C: There is absolutely no indication on that tin that the
contents are "rosin flux".

You lose, you lose, and you lose.

Three strikes, dude... you're out!

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:42 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:54 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

I wrote that **** high,
tired, and late at night... and managed to clean
your clock with it.


You got the **** part right, but you didn't get any further.

You do however prove again, that women have the prerogative to
change their mind at will, and men have the ability to justify
anything. Just as you're are attempting to do here.

Fact is., you lose. You lost from the get-go, and you know it.

I beat you about the head with my Irish net shillelagh, and you are
still reeling from it.

Sad, dude... very sad, you are.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:43 AM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:54 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

BTW, I'm not reading your multiple posts,
only the first one. If you actually manage
to make a point, or say something funny,
please do it in your first reply.


**** you, retard boy.

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:48 AM

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"MenstrualPains" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:08:56 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"GassivePlong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?


Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature,


Then FOAD, *completely*, MassivePrawn, before I
shame you again. I win.


The only thing you have won is the award for being the most immature
adult aged dip**** in Usenet.


And *you*, with the nom-de-net 'MassivePrawn', are
*most* mature...

You were wrong. You are STILL wrong, dumb****.


But you can't say *why*... you don't understand logic.
Wait for your bone...

I have wiki, and it shoots down your photo, AND you wiki reference,
which, btw, ALSO proves you wrong, dumbass!


Did you just call me a Wiki reference? Just don't
call me Shirley, or Late For Dinner.

Me and the rest of the world wins against your bullheaded baby
bull****, hands down.


Stage 5... delusions of competence. I have an example of
rosin flux with ZnCl2 in it. You admit this. I win.


Now, go back to slobbering on your speaker nuts.


How you managed that without an anal reference
I can't imagine, but I salute you!
__
Steve
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:52 AM

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"MassiveProng" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:14:22 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

And "So" was better than any lamb lies down crap...
*that's* when he got my attention.


You're an idiot The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway was GENESIS, you
stupid ****!


Are you not aware that I'm aware of that? Don't
they both involve Peter Gabriel? Can't you see
that my point was that I preferred PG solo?
Did I not make that plain enough for you?


And Peter Gabriel's best works were ALL of his first albums,
certainly not "So".


How many 'first albums' does he have?

Also, TLLDOB was one of the best albums ever made, but I wouldn't
expect a twit like you to be able to grasp the depth which it has.


Not my cup of tea...


You're a ****ing idiot.


You're a MassivePrawn!
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 05:57 AM

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"BassySong" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:22:15 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"PrassiveMong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:41:12 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

Not when it contains rosin... go read the Wiki I posted.
That crap in your tin is white... mine is deep brown.

Now go read the wiki *I* posted, dip****, and find out just how
wrong you are.


You've already admitted that my flux is rosinous...
I never made a claim about electronics in any way.


No. You said "rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it."

Which is totally false.


Again, you are clueless as to logic. Shall I throw him
his bone? Or her... I suppose a woman could have
a MassivePrawn grafted on, or strapped on... is your
prawn strapped on?

Your flux has Zinc Chloride in it.


Yes, it does.... it's very nice!

Show me ANY rosin solder flux that has it.


I just did! I also posted a Wiki describing rosin
flux with 'activation', otherwise known as ZnCl2.

I showed you the flux... so I win. It's very simple!
I've met the condition you just (so disengenuously)
set.
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Steve
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maybe the bone next time



Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 06:02 AM

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"SpeciousFlong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:03:50 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

Fearless Leader would indeed shoot me.... except that
there's plenty of plumbing in a modern radio-telescope.


None of which is soldered with acid flux, dumb****, much less Zinc
Chloride based acid flux.


I soldered it myself... with the exact flux
you showed a picture of. Kester, the white
paste. I like sweating copper pipe... it relaxes
me in the morning. Ever use white bread to
stop the water from cooling the joint? Anyway,
I installed the hot water heater at VLBAFD.
You are wrong, and owned, *again*.
__
Steve
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Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 06:08 AM

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"PassiveManatee" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:11:54 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

Who ever said that I was ****ed off, you utter ****ing clueless
retard?


Language! That's what tells me.... your potty mouth.



You cannot even assess a tin of acid flux, what makes you think you
can properly assess someone's mood from miles away based on a Usenet
post?


Doesn't matter... I perceive you as owned, by me.

Still not reading your petulant multiple replies.
__
Steve
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Here's the bone... my assertion was that 'rosin has zinc chloride'.
Only *some* rosin fluxes contain ZnCl2. I readily admit this.
You are all pikers for not catching this.




Red March 10th 07 06:09 AM

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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:18:08 -0800, MassiveProng
wrote:

I read EE Times, and Sky and Telescope, and Scientific American, and
Linux Format, and Machine Design and NASA Tech Briefs, Etc.


Dear Mr. Prong:
Please fill in your free subscription renewal form for
NASA Tech Briefs:
Last Name: Prong
First Name: Massive
Company Name: ProngTronics
Title: President

I have done more to make the world a better place in the last 2
years than you will in your entire life, boy.


OK, I have to ask... what did you do?

Lord Valve March 10th 07 12:42 PM

The Clapton show in Denver
 


MassiveProng wrote:

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:01:05 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us:

You call that a brush with celebrity?, Clapton running like
hell to get away from the asshole?
:

Do you guitards all bicker like little pussies like this all the
time in that group?


This one does.

LV





CompUser March 10th 07 04:27 PM

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In article 209Ih.11083$Wc.2294
@bignews3.bellsouth.net,
says...

I have smoked and then quit several times in the course
of my life. Quit each time cold turkey with nothing
more than willpower. This time was different however.
Coming off a year of incredible stress and increased
workload thanks to being waxed by a hurricane and
due to the fact that I still had a lot of catching up to do
projects wise in spite of being thoroughly burned out
from it all, I opted to use a little help in the form
of Wellbutrin\Zyban this time
to ward of the depression that the lower dopamine
levels of nicotine withdrawal causes.


Take a look at welbutrin in wikipedia:
============
Common side effects include dry mouth, tremors,
anxiety, loss of appetite, agitation, dizziness,
headache, excessive sweating such as night
sweats, increased risk of seizure (its most
controversial side effect, found in 4/1000 during
trials), aggressiveness, tinnitus, and both
initial and terminal insomnia. Activation of
mania and psychosis have both been encountered.
The side effect profile is consistent with that
observed in mixed dopamine and norepinephrine
reuptake inhibition. Some patients may also
require less than the normal dosing which usually
starts at around 75 mg for the first few weeks
and is then switched to the normal 150?300 mg
dosage; these patients may be kept on the 150 mg
regimen however, some patients are experimentally
placed on doses as high and sometimes exceeding,
600 mg/day.[citation needed] Dosage is strictly
on a patient to patient basis and can vary
greatly.
==============

There are quite a few conditions that
contraindicate use of welbutrin, also..you might
want to check it all out.


MassiveProng March 10th 07 04:59 PM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:48:40 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"MenstrualPains" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:08:56 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"GassivePlong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?


Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature,

Then FOAD, *completely*, MassivePrawn, before I
shame you again. I win.


The only thing you have won is the award for being the most immature
adult aged dip**** in Usenet.


And *you*, with the nom-de-net 'MassivePrawn', are
*most* mature...


That's not my nym, morphing dumb****tard.

You were wrong. You are STILL wrong, dumb****.


But you can't say *why*... you don't understand logic.
Wait for your bone...


Look, dip****... you aren't stringing me along. You are being
called out as a ****ing WRONG ASSWIPE by ME. It is up to you to
figure out what you have done.


I have wiki, and it shoots down your photo, AND you wiki reference,
which, btw, ALSO proves you wrong, dumbass!


Did you just call me a Wiki reference? Just don't
call me Shirley, or Late For Dinner.


You're an idiot. Lack of response to the wiki flux page noted.

Me and the rest of the world wins against your bullheaded baby
bull****, hands down.


Stage 5... delusions of competence.


You should get that checked out, retard boy. Have you doctor up the
Lithium dose.

I have an example of
rosin flux with ZnCl2 in it. You admit this. I win.


No, you don't. Where is the picture of that tin that states that it
is rosin?

Oooops... you lose... again.

Now, go back to slobbering on your speaker nuts.


How you managed that without an anal reference
I can't imagine, but I salute you!


That's right, ****head. I am miles above your retarded E-1 grade
punk rank.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:05 PM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:57:58 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


I just did! I also posted a Wiki describing rosin
flux with 'activation', otherwise known as ZnCl2.



Yes, that which is NOT meant for electronics.

Your original remark inferred that ALL rosin flux has it in it. You
were WRONG. ****ing admit it!

You need to go to the plumbing group if you want your picture to be
accepted as "flux" by the group's reader's terms.

Your stupid **** isn't "flux for electronics", it's "****s for
electronics", because it ****s up electronics. Get a clue, dip****.

Then, ther is that issue where you can't even prove that what you
have is even rosin.

MassiveProng March 10th 07 05:08 PM

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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:02:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"SpeciousFlong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:03:50 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:

Fearless Leader would indeed shoot me.... except that
there's plenty of plumbing in a modern radio-telescope.


None of which is soldered with acid flux, dumb****, much less Zinc
Chloride based acid flux.


I soldered it myself... with the exact flux
you showed a picture of.




Wrong! Your statement above declares "modern radio telescope". That
**** your retarded supervisor let you use your infamous acid flux on
is hardly "modern", and MODERN radio telescopes not only are NOT put
together with that CRAP, they would never be worked on by a totally
retarded ****head like you.

Kester, the white
paste. I like sweating copper pipe... it relaxes
me in the morning. Ever use white bread to
stop the water from cooling the joint? Anyway,
I installed the hot water heater at VLBAFD.
You are wrong, and owned, *again*.


Not even close, dumb****.

Stephen Cowell March 10th 07 07:30 PM

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"BlastedGong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 05:48:40 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"MenstrualPains" wrote
in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:08:56 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


"GassivePlong" wrote in
message ...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:33:20 GMT, "Stephen Cowell"
Gave us:


You dumbasses can't even Wiki, can you?


Look, ****tard!

Rosin flux for ELECTRONICS HAS NO ZnCl in it!

YOUR CRAP, is ACID flux, and MIGHT be rosinous in nature,

Then FOAD, *completely*, MassivePrawn, before I
shame you again. I win.

The only thing you have won is the award for being the most immature
adult aged dip**** in Usenet.


And *you*, with the nom-de-net 'MassivePrawn', are
*most* mature...


That's not my nym, morphing dumb****tard.


It is more mature than your real one, MassivePrawn.

You were wrong. You are STILL wrong, dumb****.


But you can't say *why*... you don't understand logic.
Wait for your bone...


Look, dip****... you aren't stringing me along. You are being
called out as a ****ing WRONG ASSWIPE by ME. It is up to you to
figure out what you have done.


Notice... more mouth poo. I've already thrown the bone...
in more ways than one. Figger it out.

I have wiki, and it shoots down your photo, AND you wiki reference,
which, btw, ALSO proves you wrong, dumbass!


Did you just call me a Wiki reference? Just don't
call me Shirley, or Late For Dinner.


You're an idiot. Lack of response to the wiki flux page noted.


My Wiki trumps your Wiki... and you've already
admitted that my flux might be 'rosinous'... all over
but the shoutin'.

Me and the rest of the world wins against your bullheaded baby
bull****, hands down.


Stage 5... delusions of competence.


You should get that checked out, retard boy. Have you doctor up the
Lithium dose.


You Lose. Rosin Flux can have ZnCl2 in it.

I have an example of
rosin flux with ZnCl2 in it. You admit this. I win.


No, you don't. Where is the picture of that tin that states that it
is rosin?


You've already admitted that it *might* be... You Lose.

Oooops... you lose... again.

Now, go back to slobbering on your speaker nuts.


How you managed that without an anal reference
I can't imagine, but I salute you!


That's right, ****head. I am miles above your retarded E-1 grade
punk rank.


?? MassivePrawn, you have admitted defeat. Why
are you here?
__
Steve
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