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Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:33:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" : Gave us: : : You play pinball, and I'll play music. Appropriate, eh? : I'll let you play my old Gottleib... : : : Your name should be cower. : : So far the only music you have introduced into our group is : flatulence. : : You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease, : and need to flail your arms like a little dip****. : : Here... I'll clear it up for you... : : That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way : means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it. : : Just like John said, that **** is an acid flux, NOT rosin flux, and : regardless of what GC printed on the can, it is NOT meant for : electronics use. : : So take your clueless ass back to your geetar group where you : belong. : : You pathetic, cringing little milksop. Yeah, you're right, he's wrong. You're still an asshole. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:18:58 GMT, "TT_Man" Gave : us: : : : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : : : Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem .......... : : : Only if they were placed there by an incompetent dentist. : : A properly done mercury/silver amalgam filling gets over 95% of the : mercury squoze out during placement, and the rest is pretty well : trapped. So they say. Have you ever heard of the word Gullible? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Xtrchessreal" wrote : When I was about 10 my dad brought home a bottle of pure Mercury. He : showed us how cool it was on a steel plate and warned us not to touch : it. Nice of him huh? When I was young, whilst visiting a small vacuum tube factory in California, the electronic engineer friend of the family let us kids play with a can of mercury. It was fun to stick your hand in the can and feel it's viscosity. Then we all got to stick our hands in again with silver dimes and dollars. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On 7 Mar 2007 13:29:49 -0800, "Xtrchessreal" : Gave us: : : Later when he was not home we broke into the cabinet where it was and : proceeded to play with it. "Oh cool how it beads up in your hands, : see how it pours from one hand to the other!" : : : Relatively safe, actually. Even ingestion of metallic form mercury : is not that big a deal. Now touch any of many if not all mercuric : compounds and you can get cancer and die within a couple/few months. Would mercurochrome (sp?) be considered such ? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On 7 Mar 2007 13:56:47 -0800, "The Librarian" : Gave us: : : On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into : the edges of doorways on occasion, : instead of gracefully passing through them. : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness : in the hands. : : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps : 30 years involved in electronics with a good : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms : just might well be those of lead poisoning. : : To make a long story short, for the last couple : of months I've been munching mass quantities : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. : Also I've been supplementing with selenium. : : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that : can help rid the body of metals. : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing : my coordination has improved immensely : when playing the guitar, and no more : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. : : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay : my experience anyway FWIW. : : I also read about how lead poisoning was what : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the : expression "Mad Hatter" came from. : : I thought it was mercury. : : This struck me a bit funny since my wife : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm : thinking about changing my screen name to : "The Mad Catter" :-) : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P : : Cilantro dental odor is more than a little foul. Mixed with : cigarette odor and you almost puke. : : Riding the bus in North San Diego County is a nightmare when it is : full of Mexican illegals on their way "home" from working the local : farms. : : Nauseating even. The odor, and the fact that "home" is here. Then there's the frijole factor to consider. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"sparky" wrote in message oups.com... : On Mar 7, 3:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into : the edges of doorways on occasion, : instead of gracefully passing through them. : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness : in the hands. : : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps : 30 years involved in electronics with a good : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms : just might well be those of lead poisoning. : : To make a long story short, for the last couple : of months I've been munching mass quantities : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. : Also I've been supplementing with selenium. : : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that : can help rid the body of metals. : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing : my coordination has improved immensely : when playing the guitar, and no more : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. : : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay : my experience anyway FWIW. : : I also read about how lead poisoning was what : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the : expression "Mad Hatter" came from. : : This struck me a bit funny since my wife : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm : thinking about changing my screen name to : "The Mad Catter" :-) : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : Before you start fooling around with dangerous selenium compounds read : this excerpt from on the the selenium compound MSDS sheets. Animals : have died from eating plants containing as little as 5 PPM of : selenium. Just recently there was a recall because some company : accidentally let sunburned potatoes be bagged and sold to the : consumer. Not nice stuff at all! : : Selenium compounds are poison by inhalation and intravenous routes. : Some selenium compounds are experimental carcinogens. : Long-term exposure may be a cause of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis in : humans, just as it may cause "blind staggers" in cattle. : Elemental Selenium has low acute systemic toxicity, but dust or fumes : can cause serious irritation of the respiratory tract. Inorganic : selenium compounds can cause dermatitis. Garlic odor of breath is a : common symptom. Pallor, nervousness, depression, digestive : disturbances and death have been reported in cases of chronic exposure : (Sax, Dangerous Properties of Industrial Materials, eighth : edition). The selenium I'm taking is in the form of brewers yeast. So I imagine, the biggest danger might be spontaneous effervessence. : |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Robert Baer" wrote in message thlink.net... : Dave Moore wrote: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into : the edges of doorways on occasion, : instead of gracefully passing through them. : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness : in the hands. : : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps : 30 years involved in electronics with a good : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms : just might well be those of lead poisoning. : : To make a long story short, for the last couple : of months I've been munching mass quantities : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. : Also I've been supplementing with selenium. : : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that : can help rid the body of metals. : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing : my coordination has improved immensely : when playing the guitar, and no more : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. : : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay : my experience anyway FWIW. : : I also read about how lead poisoning was what : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the : expression "Mad Hatter" came from. : : This struck me a bit funny since my wife : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm : thinking about changing my screen name to : "The Mad Catter" :-) : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : : : If i remember correctly, selenium is a poison also, and presumedly it : makes your sweat smell like a stinky skunk. Oh,,, So that's why all them thar critters bin a'fallerin me. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Meat Plow" wrote in message ... It is cumulative but does the body not pass small amounts over a period of time? Just have a blood test. I have been using solder for 30 years and have been tested in the last few years twice and no problem found. I suspect the smoke from the resin is more of a health issue than the lead. Leonard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2471 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! |
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:55:03 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: I suppose I should mention that I started taking L-Carnitine and Coenzyme Q-10 also. Not because of my suspicions about possible lead poisoning, but simply because they're suppose to be good for cell rejuvenation in general. At my ripe old age of 52, one begins to think about such things :-) So I suppose there's the possiblity that these supplements mighta played a part in the turn around, dunno. Try a good, hearty, fresh green salad twice a day. Not some little dish filler either. A PLATE FULL of salad. Graze in the pasture as it were. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
MassiveProng wrote: On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:22:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" Gave us: Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium "fingers", dip****. Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a sig work properly. Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were palladium. Cadmium fingers are not normally a problem in the key contacts; they do, however, play hell inside the vibrato scanner and the percussion switch assembly. When a Hammond scanner has too much oil put into it (and most of them wind up this way) the cadmium fuzz that grows inside them forms a sludge with the excess oil, shorting out portions of the scanner. The correct way to remedy this is to disassemble the scanner, clean everything inside it (especially the fiber spacers which insulate the stationary capacitor plates from the metal shell) and then spray the inside of the scanner's round can chassis with some acrylic varnish to prevent regrowth of the cadmium fingers. The old repairman's trick of burning the fingers off by zapping the scanner with a megger is a stopgap measure, since they will just grow back and screw the scanner up again. This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. The Hammond is inextricably woven into the fabric of American popular music, with a rich history that extends back into the heyday of the radio era. The noisy contact system (nine mechanical contacts hitting nine bussbars in a rather random fashion) produces the infamous "keyclick" that gives the Hammond its bite, and it is noteworthy that every digital emulation of the Hammond sound pays a considerable amount of attention to reproducing this "defect" as accurately as possible. The Hammond Organ Company lives on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues players the world over. They also continue to build traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as SS types. If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him step forward and speak up. silence Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course - a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years old. Lord Valve Organist |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"The Librarian" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 7, 7:25 pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote: "The Librarian" wrote in message ps.com... On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote: Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to post about my recent experience. So, since I finally remembered; Not long ago I started noticing that when I would play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into the edges of doorways on occasion, instead of gracefully passing through them. Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness in the hands. Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps 30 years involved in electronics with a good 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms just might well be those of lead poisoning. To make a long story short, for the last couple of months I've been munching mass quantities of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that can help rid the body of metals. Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing my coordination has improved immensely when playing the guitar, and no more weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay my experience anyway FWIW. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. I thought it was mercury. This struck me a bit funny since my wife and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm thinking about changing my screen name to "The Mad Catter" :-) BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings starting to break lose, so I have to wonder if some of the metal toxicity might also be a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem to be keeping it in check. I plan to look into Chlorella which also is purported to have chelating properties. bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P "Librarian" as in Unseen University ? Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ? ? ? Ooook ?? |
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Crikey, this ****tard Massive throng or whatever, has an even bigger ego problem than I do :-) LoL..."Yes, see what you've done!" Now, quit goofing around and get to a tech (human body type, aka doc). |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Lord Valve wrote:
MassiveProng wrote: On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:22:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" Gave us: Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium "fingers", dip****. Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a sig work properly. Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were palladium. Cadmium fingers are not normally a problem in the key contacts; they do, however, play hell inside the vibrato scanner and the percussion switch assembly. When a Hammond scanner has too much oil put into it (and most of them wind up this way) the cadmium fuzz that grows inside them forms a sludge with the excess oil, shorting out portions of the scanner. The correct way to remedy this is to disassemble the scanner, clean everything inside it (especially the fiber spacers which insulate the stationary capacitor plates from the metal shell) and then spray the inside of the scanner's round can chassis with some acrylic varnish to prevent regrowth of the cadmium fingers. The old repairman's trick of burning the fingers off by zapping the scanner with a megger is a stopgap measure, since they will just grow back and screw the scanner up again. This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. The Hammond is inextricably woven into the fabric of American popular music, with a rich history that extends back into the heyday of the radio era. The noisy contact system (nine mechanical contacts hitting nine bussbars in a rather random fashion) produces the infamous "keyclick" that gives the Hammond its bite, and it is noteworthy that every digital emulation of the Hammond sound pays a considerable amount of attention to reproducing this "defect" as accurately as possible. The Hammond Organ Company lives on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues players the world over. They also continue to build traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as SS types. If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him step forward and speak up. silence Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course - a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years old. And yourself not being a *fan* of 'the blues', so-to-speak... how was the show..?? Who was playing said B-3 . . ? ? Is the G--damn weather warming up out there..?? This global warming **** is freezing me everywhere I go . . ? ? ? Lord Valve Organist |
The Clapton show in Denver
gtski wrote: Lord Valve wrote: MassiveProng wrote: On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:22:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" Gave us: Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium "fingers", dip****. Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a sig work properly. Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were palladium. Cadmium fingers are not normally a problem in the key contacts; they do, however, play hell inside the vibrato scanner and the percussion switch assembly. When a Hammond scanner has too much oil put into it (and most of them wind up this way) the cadmium fuzz that grows inside them forms a sludge with the excess oil, shorting out portions of the scanner. The correct way to remedy this is to disassemble the scanner, clean everything inside it (especially the fiber spacers which insulate the stationary capacitor plates from the metal shell) and then spray the inside of the scanner's round can chassis with some acrylic varnish to prevent regrowth of the cadmium fingers. The old repairman's trick of burning the fingers off by zapping the scanner with a megger is a stopgap measure, since they will just grow back and screw the scanner up again. This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. The Hammond is inextricably woven into the fabric of American popular music, with a rich history that extends back into the heyday of the radio era. The noisy contact system (nine mechanical contacts hitting nine bussbars in a rather random fashion) produces the infamous "keyclick" that gives the Hammond its bite, and it is noteworthy that every digital emulation of the Hammond sound pays a considerable amount of attention to reproducing this "defect" as accurately as possible. The Hammond Organ Company lives on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues players the world over. They also continue to build traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as SS types. If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him step forward and speak up. silence Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course - a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years old. And yourself not being a *fan* of 'the blues', so-to-speak... how was the show..?? Well... I had serious issues with the way it was mixed. The Pepsi Center is *huge* - the Denver Nuggets play there - but the PA is enormous and more than adequate for the room. Not a gear issue, then. Its rare I go to a "rock" show and wish the drums were more prominent in the mix, but last night that's the way it was. Clapton's vocals were on the distorted side - sounded like input channel clipping - but the two chick backup singers sounded great, as did Doyle Bramhall. The organ was so far down in the mix it might as well not have been there. There were two keyboardists; the other dude was playing what appeared to be a Kurzweil, used as a dedicated piano. He had ten fingers, and used all of 'em, all the time. He was skilled, but I don't care for pounders. They ran him hot in the mix, at times to the detriment of the current soloist. Clapton's tone was kind of sporadic - at times, it was seriously kickass, at others, just so-so. When he got down to it, he lit the joint up; no doubt about it, the old dude can still play his ass off. Bramhall was having trouble hearing himself sing; when I asked him about it after the show, he said there was a null spot right where his head was and he had to keep letting go of his axe to cup his ear in order to sing in tune. He's an excellent singer, though. The bottom end of his guitar tone sounded a little on the fuzzy side; I suspect one of his speakers was blown and they were miking the other one, but that's a guess. I didn't ask him about it. It appeared to me that he was playing a left-handed guitar left-handed but strung upside down. The bassist hit several really noticeable clams, and had occasional timing issues. He was still fairly good, though. The drummer was excellent; he came out front and played a cocktail kit (I didn't know they still made 'em, let alone that anyone was still using one) during the "acoustic" set they did in the middle of the show. (Derek played a Dobro.) I wish I had been able to hear the drummer better...I was maybe 50 feet from the stage, 15 feet above it (in the VIP seats with the rest of the invitees) and I swear I could hear his cymbals better off his kit than through the PA. There was absolutely no doubt about it, though: Derek owned the stage. His technique was impeccable, his tone was *fabulous*. He knocked the crowd flat stone cold. And I don't want to imply that it was a head-cutting contest, either - it damnsure wasn't. Putting together a show with THREE excellent guitar players is close to impossible - it either turns into a complete cluster-**** or a ****ing match, but those cats were careful about stepping on each other. And, of course, the chords used in most of those tunes were not complex enough for anyone to worry about conflicting inversions when comping. It was interesting to hear Derek's take on songs that were Top 40 hits before he was born. My impression was that Eric is passing the torch. DT is a far more complex player, given his eclectic influences, but he has the skills to stay between the required walls in any given situation while still innovating. He's rock solid, he just doesn't choke - *ever*. Amazing. Overall, it was a great show. The crowd certainly thought so. I enjoyed it, despite any technical or stylistic bitches I had with the production. EC didn't hang with the folks afterwards - he just jumped in his limo and booked. I reckon he's had 40+ years of schmoozing the locals, and that's plenty. I had several questions I wanted to ask him, but I reckon DT can ask 'em for me. DT's manager told me they're putting together a group to do a short tour, using the DTB plus Susan Tedeschi and maybe a sax player. They have a tentative date at the Paramount in Denver in June, and I'll probably be sitting in for a tune or two. Yeah! The recording project we've been talking about is still on hold, as DT is spread pretty thin these days. I told him I can come on one day's notice, if I can rent my particular set of gear in Jacksonville - since my XK-3 uses a flash-ram for setup storage, I can just yank my card out of my axe and put it in my wallet, and then shove it into a rented XK-3 on the other end and have all my stuff. DT has a "real" B-3 in his studio, and I'll certainly play it, but I must confess I like my XK better than any "real" Hammond I've ever owned - and I've owned damn near all of 'em. Sacrilege! ;-) Who was playing said B-3 . . ? ? A rather enormous black dude. I mean *enormous*. As we all know, I ain't exactly petite, but this dude would make me look like a twig. As I said above, he was so far down in the mix, he might as well have stayed at home. The one solo he took that was audible was a rather average-sounding rock-style smear-fest, with much Leslie speed switching and all the other schtick that rock players use. I didn't care for it at all. He may well be an excellent player - I would expect him to be, given who his employer is - but let's just say that from what I heard, he wasn't exactly Jimmy Smith. ;-) He also had a Rhodes and what appeared to be a Nord Electro, both on a wing stand at right angles to the Hammond. He played the Rhodes for part of one tune (couldn't hear it at all) and never even touched the Nord, which was fine with me - those sound like absolute *ass*. (Not that anyone would have been able to hear it. Did I mention that?) Is the G--damn weather warming up out there..?? 60 degrees yesterday. This global warming **** is freezing me everywhere I go . . ? ? ? .. Not my department - talk to one of the Global Warming Cultists on this NG. There certainly ain't no shortage of em. Lord Valve Globally Cool |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook"
wrote: Arfa Daily wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to snip The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals a sharper mind, as is often espoused. Barry |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
CompUser wrote:
In article kfavu21bl2hefb9p7t17v3sn7hqj90duga@ 4ax.com, says... Here, look at this picture... http://www.flickr.com/photos/7231750@N05/414282820/ Again I say, you stupid ****: Show me where ANY other flux maker has any such warnings. Also, do you have any clue as to how old that **** is? LoL! ...so if he shows another, will you ask for a third? And age has to do with...what? It looks like : Cowell 1, Prong 0 Nope. Cowell produced a tin of ... what? To prove his point, which was "Rosin has Zinc Chloride in it" he needs to establish: 1) That the tin contains (or contained) flux 2) That the flux is rosin flux Even if we can assume 1 above is true, 2 is false. What he has (or had) in the tin, is acid flux. The "contains zinc chloride" written on the label tells you that. So if you use your scoring system, it is Cowell 0, Prong 1 But the "scoring" isn't the key point. The sad thing is the possible use by Mr. Cowell, yourself, or others of an acid flux on electronic gear. Ed |
The Clapton show in Denver
"Lord Valve" wrote in message ... gtski wrote: Lord Valve wrote: MassiveProng wrote: On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:22:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" Gave us: Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium "fingers", dip****. Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a sig work properly. Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were palladium. Cadmium fingers are not normally a problem in the key contacts; they do, however, play hell inside the vibrato scanner and the percussion switch assembly. When a Hammond scanner has too much oil put into it (and most of them wind up this way) the cadmium fuzz that grows inside them forms a sludge with the excess oil, shorting out portions of the scanner. The correct way to remedy this is to disassemble the scanner, clean everything inside it (especially the fiber spacers which insulate the stationary capacitor plates from the metal shell) and then spray the inside of the scanner's round can chassis with some acrylic varnish to prevent regrowth of the cadmium fingers. The old repairman's trick of burning the fingers off by zapping the scanner with a megger is a stopgap measure, since they will just grow back and screw the scanner up again. This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. The Hammond is inextricably woven into the fabric of American popular music, with a rich history that extends back into the heyday of the radio era. The noisy contact system (nine mechanical contacts hitting nine bussbars in a rather random fashion) produces the infamous "keyclick" that gives the Hammond its bite, and it is noteworthy that every digital emulation of the Hammond sound pays a considerable amount of attention to reproducing this "defect" as accurately as possible. The Hammond Organ Company lives on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues players the world over. They also continue to build traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as SS types. If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him step forward and speak up. silence Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course - a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years old. And yourself not being a *fan* of 'the blues', so-to-speak... how was the show..?? Well... I had serious issues with the way it was mixed. The Pepsi Center is *huge* - the Denver Nuggets play there - but the PA is enormous and more than adequate for the room. Not a gear issue, then. Its rare I go to a "rock" show and wish the drums were more prominent in the mix, but last night that's the way it was. Clapton's vocals were on the distorted side - sounded like input channel clipping - but the two chick backup singers sounded great, as did Doyle Bramhall. The organ was so far down in the mix it might as well not have been there. There were two keyboardists; the other dude was playing what appeared to be a Kurzweil, used as a dedicated piano. He had ten fingers, and used all of 'em, all the time. He was skilled, but I don't care for pounders. They ran him hot in the mix, at times to the detriment of the current soloist. Clapton's tone was kind of sporadic - at times, it was seriously kickass, at others, just so-so. When he got down to it, he lit the joint up; no doubt about it, the old dude can still play his ass off. Bramhall was having trouble hearing himself sing; when I asked him about it after the show, he said there was a null spot right where his head was and he had to keep letting go of his axe to cup his ear in order to sing in tune. He's an excellent singer, though. The bottom end of his guitar tone sounded a little on the fuzzy side; I suspect one of his speakers was blown and they were miking the other one, but that's a guess. I didn't ask him about it. It appeared to me that he was playing a left-handed guitar left-handed but strung upside down. The bassist hit several really noticeable clams, and had occasional timing issues. He was still fairly good, though. The drummer was excellent; he came out front and played a cocktail kit (I didn't know they still made 'em, let alone that anyone was still using one) during the "acoustic" set they did in the middle of the show. (Derek played a Dobro.) I wish I had been able to hear the drummer better...I was maybe 50 feet from the stage, 15 feet above it (in the VIP seats with the rest of the invitees) and I swear I could hear his cymbals better off his kit than through the PA. There was absolutely no doubt about it, though: Derek owned the stage. His technique was impeccable, his tone was *fabulous*. He knocked the crowd flat stone cold. And I don't want to imply that it was a head-cutting contest, either - it damnsure wasn't. Putting together a show with THREE excellent guitar players is close to impossible - it either turns into a complete cluster-**** or a ****ing match, but those cats were careful about stepping on each other. And, of course, the chords used in most of those tunes were not complex enough for anyone to worry about conflicting inversions when comping. It was interesting to hear Derek's take on songs that were Top 40 hits before he was born. My impression was that Eric is passing the torch. DT is a far more complex player, given his eclectic influences, but he has the skills to stay between the required walls in any given situation while still innovating. He's rock solid, he just doesn't choke - *ever*. Amazing. Overall, it was a great show. The crowd certainly thought so. I enjoyed it, despite any technical or stylistic bitches I had with the production. EC didn't hang with the folks afterwards - he just jumped in his limo and booked. I reckon he's had 40+ years of schmoozing the locals, and that's plenty. I had several questions I wanted to ask him, but I reckon DT can ask 'em for me. DT's manager told me they're putting together a group to do a short tour, using the DTB plus Susan Tedeschi and maybe a sax player. They have a tentative date at the Paramount in Denver in June, and I'll probably be sitting in for a tune or two. Yeah! The recording project we've been talking about is still on hold, as DT is spread pretty thin these days. I told him I can come on one day's notice, if I can rent my particular set of gear in Jacksonville - since my XK-3 uses a flash-ram for setup storage, I can just yank my card out of my axe and put it in my wallet, and then shove it into a rented XK-3 on the other end and have all my stuff. DT has a "real" B-3 in his studio, and I'll certainly play it, but I must confess I like my XK better than any "real" Hammond I've ever owned - and I've owned damn near all of 'em. Sacrilege! ;-) Who was playing said B-3 . . ? ? A rather enormous black dude. I mean *enormous*. As we all know, I ain't exactly petite, but this dude would make me look like a twig. As I said above, he was so far down in the mix, he might as well have stayed at home. The one solo he took that was audible was a rather average-sounding rock-style smear-fest, with much Leslie speed switching and all the other schtick that rock players use. I didn't care for it at all. He may well be an excellent player - I would expect him to be, given who his employer is - but let's just say that from what I heard, he wasn't exactly Jimmy Smith. ;-) He also had a Rhodes and what appeared to be a Nord Electro, both on a wing stand at right angles to the Hammond. He played the Rhodes for part of one tune (couldn't hear it at all) and never even touched the Nord, which was fine with me - those sound like absolute *ass*. (Not that anyone would have been able to hear it. Did I mention that?) Is the G--damn weather warming up out there..?? 60 degrees yesterday. This global warming **** is freezing me everywhere I go . . ? ? ? . Not my department - talk to one of the Global Warming Cultists on this NG. There certainly ain't no shortage of em. Lord Valve Globally Cool Here we go again - Fart Valve Willy trying to milk out every frickin' drop of his brush with celebrity. I just may have to refer to you now as Fart Valve Milky. KABONG!~!~!~ |
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Barry Lennox wrote in message
... On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" wrote: Arfa Daily wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to snip The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals a sharper mind, as is often espoused. Barry Like smoking is partly psychological crutch and partly chemical addiction. I reckon this water bottle nonsense is the same with phthalate instead of nicotine. I blame the teachers (in the UK anyway) who've been brainwashed by some commercial operation called "Brain Gym". Admittedly I've only asked one primary level teacher and he could see nothing perverse/unfounded claptrap, in added water etc to increase cognitive ability/ reduced ADHD or whatever psychobabble. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ |
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Hi!
Also I've been supplementing with selenium. Selenium? Isn't that stuff pretty nasty in its own right? I seem to remember that it is somehow toxic. I also read about how lead poisoning was what made the Hat makers go mad and is where the expression "Mad Hatter" came from. I think you are talking about mercury, not lead. William |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Joel Kolstad wrote: You really aren't. Sure, you might not be required to produce RoHs-compliant products, but you'll find that already many parts are no longer available in non-RoHs packages, requiring higher temperatures for soldering, and within a few years here nothing will be available that isn't that way. I'm curious. Which parts have they changed and how do they make them *impossible* to solder with lead based stuff? IMHO, lead based solder will always be available for repairing older equipment. Who said "impossible"? One can use any solder one wishes; the EU RoHS "mandate" only talks about certain *manufactured* goods for *sold* in the EU, period. The metal coating on part leads may no longer be tin/lead solder, but may be tin/silver solder, nickel, tin, etc - anything that does not contain lead. For useability in theassembly of electronic circuits, that metal coating must be compatible with the non-lead solder(s) used in assembly. That means they are compatible with tin/lead solders. |
The Clapton show in Denver
"Elvis Kabong" wrote in message ... : : "Lord Valve" wrote in message : ... : : : gtski wrote: : : Lord Valve wrote: : : MassiveProng wrote: : : : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:22:57 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" : Gave us: : : : Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the : leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, : as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? : : Switching to platinum contacts would ALSO involve new, NON Cadmium : "fingers", dip****. : : Pretty simple ****, but I don't expect an meth addled doper to be : able to grasp the process. Hell, you don't even know how to make a : sig work properly. : : : : Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were : palladium. : : Cadmium fingers are not normally a problem in the key contacts; : they do, however, play hell inside the vibrato scanner and the : percussion switch assembly. When a Hammond scanner : has too much oil put into it (and most of them wind up this : way) the cadmium fuzz that grows inside them forms a : sludge with the excess oil, shorting out portions of the : scanner. The correct way to remedy this is to disassemble : the scanner, clean everything inside it (especially the : fiber spacers which insulate the stationary capacitor : plates from the metal shell) and then spray the inside : of the scanner's round can chassis with some acrylic : varnish to prevent regrowth of the cadmium fingers. : The old repairman's trick of burning the fingers off : by zapping the scanner with a megger is a stopgap : measure, since they will just grow back and screw : the scanner up again. : : This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands : a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my : vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. : Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good : at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, : and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. The Hammond : is inextricably woven into the fabric of American : popular music, with a rich history that extends back : into the heyday of the radio era. The noisy contact : system (nine mechanical contacts hitting nine bussbars : in a rather random fashion) produces the infamous : "keyclick" that gives the Hammond its bite, and : it is noteworthy that every digital emulation of the : Hammond sound pays a considerable amount of : attention to reproducing this "defect" as accurately : as possible. The Hammond Organ Company lives : on in the guise of Hammond-Suzuki, and continues : to produce instruments used by top jazz and bues : players the world over. They also continue to build : traditional-style vacuum tube Leslies, as well as : SS types. : : If anyone has ever seen an equipment rider for a : pro production with a Bladwin organ on it, let him : step forward and speak up. : : silence : : Good. I was a guest of the Clapton organization : last night at the Pepsi Center here in Denver, and : on the left-hand side of the stage was - of course - : a Hammond B-3. Still kicking ass at ~50 years : old. : : And yourself not being a *fan* of 'the blues', so-to-speak... how was : the show..?? : : Well... : : I had serious issues with the way it was mixed. The Pepsi : Center is *huge* - the Denver Nuggets play there - but the : PA is enormous and more than adequate for the room. : Not a gear issue, then. Its rare I go to a "rock" show and : wish the drums were more prominent in the mix, but last : night that's the way it was. Clapton's vocals were on : the distorted side - sounded like input channel clipping - but : the two chick backup singers sounded great, as did Doyle : Bramhall. The organ was so far down in the mix it might as : well not have been there. There were two keyboardists; : the other dude was playing what appeared to be a Kurzweil, : used as a dedicated piano. He had ten fingers, and used : all of 'em, all the time. He was skilled, but I don't care for : pounders. They ran him hot in the mix, at times to the : detriment of the current soloist. Clapton's tone was : kind of sporadic - at times, it was seriously kickass, : at others, just so-so. When he got down to it, he lit : the joint up; no doubt about it, the old dude can still : play his ass off. Bramhall was having trouble hearing : himself sing; when I asked him about it after the : show, he said there was a null spot right where his head : was and he had to keep letting go of his axe to cup : his ear in order to sing in tune. He's an excellent singer, : though. The bottom end of his guitar tone sounded a : little on the fuzzy side; I suspect one of his speakers : was blown and they were miking the other one, but : that's a guess. I didn't ask him about it. It appeared : to me that he was playing a left-handed guitar left-handed : but strung upside down. : : The bassist hit several really noticeable clams, and : had occasional timing issues. He was still fairly : good, though. The drummer was excellent; he came : out front and played a cocktail kit (I didn't know they : still made 'em, let alone that anyone was still using : one) during the "acoustic" set they did in the middle : of the show. (Derek played a Dobro.) I wish I had : been able to hear the drummer better...I was maybe : 50 feet from the stage, 15 feet above it (in the VIP : seats with the rest of the invitees) and I swear I could : hear his cymbals better off his kit than through the PA. : : There was absolutely no doubt about it, though: Derek : owned the stage. His technique was impeccable, his : tone was *fabulous*. He knocked the crowd flat stone cold. : And I don't want to imply that it was a head-cutting : contest, either - it damnsure wasn't. Putting together : a show with THREE excellent guitar players is close : to impossible - it either turns into a complete cluster-**** : or a ****ing match, but those cats were careful about : stepping on each other. And, of course, the chords used : in most of those tunes were not complex enough for : anyone to worry about conflicting inversions when : comping. It was interesting to hear Derek's take on songs : that were Top 40 hits before he was born. My impression : was that Eric is passing the torch. DT is a far more : complex player, given his eclectic influences, but he : has the skills to stay between the required walls in : any given situation while still innovating. He's rock solid, : he just doesn't choke - *ever*. Amazing. : : Overall, it was a great show. The crowd certainly thought : so. I enjoyed it, despite any technical or stylistic bitches I : had with the production. : : EC didn't hang with the folks afterwards - he just jumped : in his limo and booked. I reckon he's had 40+ years : of schmoozing the locals, and that's plenty. I had several : questions I wanted to ask him, but I reckon DT can ask : 'em for me. : : DT's manager told me they're putting together a group : to do a short tour, using the DTB plus Susan Tedeschi : and maybe a sax player. They have a tentative date : at the Paramount in Denver in June, and I'll probably : be sitting in for a tune or two. Yeah! The recording : project we've been talking about is still on hold, as : DT is spread pretty thin these days. I told him I can : come on one day's notice, if I can rent my particular : set of gear in Jacksonville - since my XK-3 uses a : flash-ram for setup storage, I can just yank my card : out of my axe and put it in my wallet, and then shove : it into a rented XK-3 on the other end and have all : my stuff. DT has a "real" B-3 in his studio, and I'll : certainly play it, but I must confess I like my XK : better than any "real" Hammond I've ever owned - : and I've owned damn near all of 'em. Sacrilege! ;-) : : Who was playing said B-3 . . ? ? : : A rather enormous black dude. : : I mean *enormous*. As we all know, I ain't exactly : petite, but this dude would make me look like a twig. : As I said above, he was so far down in the mix, he : might as well have stayed at home. The one solo he : took that was audible was a rather average-sounding : rock-style smear-fest, with much Leslie speed : switching and all the other schtick that rock players : use. I didn't care for it at all. He may well be an : excellent player - I would expect him to be, given : who his employer is - but let's just say that from what : I heard, he wasn't exactly Jimmy Smith. ;-) He also : had a Rhodes and what appeared to be a Nord : Electro, both on a wing stand at right angles to the : Hammond. He played the Rhodes for part of one : tune (couldn't hear it at all) and never even touched : the Nord, which was fine with me - those sound like : absolute *ass*. (Not that anyone would have been : able to hear it. Did I mention that?) : : : Is the G--damn weather warming up out there..?? : : 60 degrees yesterday. : : This global warming **** is freezing me everywhere I go . . ? ? ? : : . : : Not my department - talk to one of the Global Warming : Cultists on this NG. There certainly ain't no shortage of em. : : Lord Valve : Globally Cool : : Here we go again - Fart Valve Willy trying to milk out every : frickin' drop of his brush with celebrity. : I just may have to refer to you now as Fart Valve Milky. : : KABONG!~!~!~ You call that a brush with celebrity?, Clapton running like hell to get away from the asshole? : |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:55:03 -0600, "Dave Moore" : Gave us: : : I suppose I should mention that I started taking L-Carnitine : and Coenzyme Q-10 also. Not because of my suspicions about : possible lead poisoning, but simply because they're suppose to : be good for cell rejuvenation in general. At my ripe old age of : 52, one begins to think about such things :-) : So I suppose there's the possiblity that these supplements : mighta played a part in the turn around, dunno. : : : Try a good, hearty, fresh green salad twice a day. : : Not some little dish filler either. A PLATE FULL of salad. : : Graze in the pasture as it were. I've been eating large bowls of fresh veggies for over 20 years. I was into so-called 'health foods' before food was discovered. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Barry Lennox" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" : wrote: : : Arfa Daily wrote in message : ... : : "Dave Moore" wrote in message : news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : : snip : : : The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic : packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food : industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. : When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) : hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of : these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. : : The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's : an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" : : It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about : the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a : little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation : between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer : performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of : about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals : a sharper mind, as is often espoused. : : Barry Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died as a result of water drinking contest recently? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:24:31 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "CompUser" wrote in message ... : In article W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9, : says... : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : : Everybody loves to give advice, but this is : pretty easy...and serious, if it is lead. Get to : a doc and get the blood test. Easy call on : that...and get real treatment, if it is lead. : Otherwise, it may just be too much fun from the : Sixties, catching up with ya...and general aging. If that was the case, I don't think I would have recouperated the way I did. I would be very wary of continued utilization of any more selenium than is found in a REGULAR supplement. It is good for the brain, but not likely as some store bought stand alone thing. It is far too easy to get too much of it, and many of these body builder vitamin makers do not have the brains to blow their noses with. A few do, however, and they don't likely include any more than a standard supplement would either. A good brand is "Parrillo Performance". That guy IS a nutritionist, and has a few Mr. Universes under his belt that he conditioned into Shape. John Parrillo is one smart dude. Great nutrition program. Might even be free online by now. Used to cost bucks. Smart dude though. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:15:35 +1300, Barry Lennox
wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" wrote: Arfa Daily wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to snip The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals a sharper mind, as is often espoused. Years ago Col. Cooper, a writer, teacher and former marine was driving into town and noticed a young woman waiting to cross the street standing with her arms crossed with a cell phone in one hand and a bottle of water in the other. He riffed amusingly on what sort of perilous and adventurous life she must lead that she should need to have water in hand at all times. What exotic sphere of life did she occupy that she should need to be ready to communicate across great distances at a moments notice. One might wonder. Ron Effect pedal demo's up at http://www.soundclick.com/ronsonicpedalry |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:27:14 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 02:56:52 -0600, "Dave Moore" : Gave us: : : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into : the edges of doorways on occasion, : instead of gracefully passing through them. : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness : in the hands. : : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps : 30 years involved in electronics with a good : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. : : That's just stupid. For a definitive control, go to your doctor and : tell him you need a heavy metals screening. Check for lead, mercury, : and cadmium. : : You'll likely find very little. Metallic form lead is not : dangerous, and the lead alloyed in solder even less so. Cadmium has : been out of use in dangerous form for a long many years now... decades : even. : : : : : So I did some : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms : just might well be those of lead poisoning. : : To make a long story short, for the last couple : of months I've been munching mass quantities : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. : Also I've been supplementing with selenium. : : You can hurt yourself by taking too much of many vitamins. E and : selenium are just a couple. You should take no more than that found : in a normal multivitamin. : : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that : can help rid the body of metals. : : Better off merely getting a blood screening to find out if any of : your actions are even warranted at all. : : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing : my coordination has improved immensely : when playing the guitar, and no more : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. : : Hahahaha... ever heard of placebo response? : : How about psychosomatic illness? Sure I've heard of such things. I've also heard of arrogant assholes. Enjoy your superiority, and go **** yourself. You take to friendly advice the same way a fly swims. They don't. Look, dip****! I'll BET you that you do NOT have a high lead count in your body. So keep chomping on selenium supplements, and succeed in ****ing yourself, dip****. Then one day, you could be like the BondsTard, and deny it, if you're still alive. Selenium is nothing to **** around with. Oh, and general age will take its toll on you no matter what you shove in your face, boy. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:35:01 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "Stephen Cowell" wrote in message .. . : : "MassiveProng" wrote in : message ... : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:33:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" : Gave us: : : And why "**** up : a perfectly good antique " by ripping the heart and soul out of : it to replace each key contact set (14, is it) with SCRs... let's see, : 14x61x2 (great and swell)... 1708 SCRs. Ludicrous. : : You obviously have no clue as to the form factors available. : : I don't care if you put 300 of them in a package, : you still have to connect them. Still doesn't change : the requirement for 1700 some-odd devices. : : Also, if you are having your "Cadmium fingers", the ****ing thing : doesn't function properly to begin with. : : Actually, the circuit is so low impedance that it : *will* function with some shorting going on... : we installed the TrekII percussion kit (I'm *sure* : you're familiar with it) and it wouldn't trigger on : the top harmonic... we had to use the next one : down. That's when I found out about the fingers... : you can zap 'em with a charged up capacitor : if you want, we like the sound of having the top : harmonic there with perc. so we didn't bother. : : Simply switching to platinum contacts would solve it without the : switch to a low voltage design. : : Einstein, it's not the contacts that are cadmium... the : leaves are cadmium plate. The contacts are self-cleaning, : as all contacts are... but *you* knew that, right? : : If these are antiques, what's a retard like you doing opening them up : anyway, dip****? You have all the capability of a freshly laid turd. : : As we can see, the anal fixation is strong in this : one. : __ : Steve Crikey, this ****tard Massive throng or whatever, has an even bigger ego problem than I do :-) Oh boy... a lead guitarist wanna be. That is lead, not lead, dip****. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:36:51 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:33:44 GMT, "Stephen Cowell" : Gave us: : : You play pinball, and I'll play music. Appropriate, eh? : I'll let you play my old Gottleib... : : : Your name should be cower. : : So far the only music you have introduced into our group is : flatulence. : : You're just ****ed because you suffer from foot in mouth disease, : and need to flail your arms like a little dip****. : : Here... I'll clear it up for you... : : That **** you have from GC HAS Zinc Chloride in it. That in no way : means that rosin flux has Zinc Chloride in it. : : Just like John said, that **** is an acid flux, NOT rosin flux, and : regardless of what GC printed on the can, it is NOT meant for : electronics use. : : So take your clueless ass back to your geetar group where you : belong. : : You pathetic, cringing little milksop. Yeah, you're right, he's wrong. You're still an asshole. And you don't think you are, dumb****? You are male, and human, right? If the answer is yes, then you ARE an asshole. Get used to it, dip****, or is your brain so befuddled that you cannot grasp the fact that you too are an asshole? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
"Robert Baer" wrote in message link.net... Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article , Joel Kolstad wrote: You really aren't. Sure, you might not be required to produce RoHs-compliant products, but you'll find that already many parts are no longer available in non-RoHs packages, requiring higher temperatures for soldering, and within a few years here nothing will be available that isn't that way. I'm curious. Which parts have they changed and how do they make them *impossible* to solder with lead based stuff? IMHO, lead based solder will always be available for repairing older equipment. Who said "impossible"? One can use any solder one wishes; the EU RoHS "mandate" only talks about certain *manufactured* goods for *sold* in the EU, period. The metal coating on part leads may no longer be tin/lead solder, but may be tin/silver solder, nickel, tin, etc - anything that does not contain lead. For useability in theassembly of electronic circuits, that metal coating must be compatible with the non-lead solder(s) used in assembly. That means they are compatible with tin/lead solders. Goods placed on the market before the RoHS directive commenced in July 2006, may be repaired / reworked with any solder you like. Goods placed on the market after that time must only be repaired / reworked using lead-free solder. Some manufacturers - Sony for instance - have been insisting for the last couple of years, that their service agents use only lead-free solder for repairing *all* of their products, even though all of the older stuff was constructed using conventional tin/lead solder. In the opinion of many reputable commentators, including some solder manufacturers, this is not valid, because the jury is still out on whether or not lead-free solder is truly compatible with leaded solder. The general concensus seems to be that if the equipment ws originally manufactured using leaded solder, then that is what it should be repaired with. Likewise, if manufactured using lead-free, then that is what should be used to repair it. Having worked with the stuff now for a couple of years, I can only say that I am truly glad that both the avionics and medical instrument industries, have managed to secure exemptions not requiring them to use it for manufacturing. Couple this with the fact that the US military refuse to use it point blank, and that should tell you all you need to know about this crappy replacement technology for one that was mature, reliable, and caused no provable pollution problem in the first place. At the end of the day, all they have done by introducing this rubbish legislation, is to swap an unproven pollution hazard problem, for yet another global warming one, by upping the world-wide energy budget for manufacturing and repairing lead-free soldered equipment. Arfa |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:45:57 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:18:58 GMT, "TT_Man" Gave : us: : : : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : : : Mercury in teeth fillings is a known problem .......... : : : Only if they were placed there by an incompetent dentist. : : A properly done mercury/silver amalgam filling gets over 95% of the : mercury squoze out during placement, and the rest is pretty well : trapped. So they say. Have you ever heard of the word Gullible? Have you ever heard of the word retard? It is basic physics, dip****. I see you are pulling the puppy dog stalker thing mow. **** off, dumbass, then DIE, of your lead poisoning, OR of your selenium binge. I think the latter would be a lot more amusing. They could bury you with your guitar across your body, and your fingers glued to the strings. You could no longer say that you missed any strings that way. D'oh! |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:55:08 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On 7 Mar 2007 13:29:49 -0800, "Xtrchessreal" : Gave us: : : Later when he was not home we broke into the cabinet where it was and : proceeded to play with it. "Oh cool how it beads up in your hands, : see how it pours from one hand to the other!" : : : Relatively safe, actually. Even ingestion of metallic form mercury : is not that big a deal. Now touch any of many if not all mercuric : compounds and you can get cancer and die within a couple/few months. Would mercurochrome (sp?) be considered such ? I wouldn't ingest it, nor use it more than very sparingly. Also, do you see it still sold anywhere? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:11:15 -0600, "Dave Moore"
wrote: "Barry Lennox" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" : wrote: : : Arfa Daily wrote in message : ... : : "Dave Moore" wrote in message : news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : : snip : : : The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic : packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food : industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. : When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) : hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of : these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. : : The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's : an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" : : It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about : the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a : little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation : between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer : performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of : about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals : a sharper mind, as is often espoused. : : Barry Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died as a result of water drinking contest recently? Sounds too good to be true! You got a URL for that? |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 04:58:03 -0600, "Dave Moore"
Gave us: "MassiveProng" wrote in message ... : On 7 Mar 2007 13:56:47 -0800, "The Librarian" : Gave us: : : On Mar 7, 2:56 am, "Dave Moore" wrote: : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : post about my recent experience. So, since : I finally remembered; : : Not long ago I started noticing that when I would : play the guitar I was missing a lot of the strings. : Also I was doing weird stuff like bumping into : the edges of doorways on occasion, : instead of gracefully passing through them. : Sometimes when standing still, it would feel like : my feet were sliding apart in this kinda weird : almost spinning sensation. Sometimes numbness : in the hands. : : Anyway, finally, it dawned on me that perhaps : 30 years involved in electronics with a good : 20 of them heavily involved in prototyping guitar : amp designs, might have taken it's toll. So I did some : research online and discovered that indeed my symptoms : just might well be those of lead poisoning. : : To make a long story short, for the last couple : of months I've been munching mass quantities : of Cilantro, about 1 bunch/day. : Also I've been supplementing with selenium. : : Both supposedly have chelating agents in them that : can help rid the body of metals. : Anyway, after about 2 month's of this, I am noticing : my coordination has improved immensely : when playing the guitar, and no more : weird numbness or spinning sensations as of late. : : I suppose this is all a bit anecdotal, but thought I'd relay : my experience anyway FWIW. : : I also read about how lead poisoning was what : made the Hat makers go mad and is where the : expression "Mad Hatter" came from. : : I thought it was mercury. : : This struck me a bit funny since my wife : and I have an animal shelter for cats. I'm : thinking about changing my screen name to : "The Mad Catter" :-) : : BTW, also I have a lot of dental fillings : starting to break lose, so I have to wonder : if some of the metal toxicity might also be : a result of mercury from crumbling amalgum. : : At any rate, whatever the cause, heaping servings : of Cilantro and a supplement of selenium seem : to be keeping it in check. : I plan to look into Chlorella which also is : purported to have chelating properties. : : bet you smell funny, like an Indian or a Mexican ;P : : Cilantro dental odor is more than a little foul. Mixed with : cigarette odor and you almost puke. : : Riding the bus in North San Diego County is a nightmare when it is : full of Mexican illegals on their way "home" from working the local : farms. : : Nauseating even. The odor, and the fact that "home" is here. Then there's the frijole factor to consider. Como esta frijole? Which is a funny way of saying how have you been. :-] |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:28:10 -0500, "Leonard Caillouet"
Gave us: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... It is cumulative but does the body not pass small amounts over a period of time? Just have a blood test. I have been using solder for 30 years and have been tested in the last few years twice and no problem found. I suspect the smoke from the resin is more of a health issue than the lead. According to the MSDS fluxes are not hazardous EITHER. Your sig IS SPAM, dumbass! |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 19:06:47 -0500, RonSonic
wrote: On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 07:15:35 +1300, Barry Lennox wrote: On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" wrote: Arfa Daily wrote in message ... "Dave Moore" wrote in message news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to snip The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals a sharper mind, as is often espoused. Years ago Col. Cooper, a writer, teacher and former marine was driving into town and noticed a young woman waiting to cross the street standing with her arms crossed with a cell phone in one hand and a bottle of water in the other. He riffed amusingly on what sort of perilous and adventurous life she must lead that she should need to have water in hand at all times. What exotic sphere of life did she occupy that she should need to be ready to communicate across great distances at a moments notice. One might wonder. I suspect a parallel universe link to the Sahara Desert Incidentally, I suggested that to one of the worst "water bottle carriers" where I once worked. She looked at me like I was quite mad. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
Dave Moore wrote:
"Barry Lennox" wrote in message ... : On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:37:55 -0000, "N Cook" : wrote: : : Arfa Daily wrote in message : ... : : "Dave Moore" wrote in message : news:W7vHh.3913$B7.2859@bigfe9... : Damn, for almost a week I have been forgetting to : : snip : : : The modern version is phthalate poisoning from leaching out of plastic : packaging and bottles. I have an industrial chemist friend in the food : industry , seriously concerned about this. I am coming to agree with him. : When I was young you never saw youngsters with bottles (glass or plastic) : hanging out of their mouths all the time. Anyone would think the function of : these ubiquitous bottles of water was psychological, like baby's dummies. : : The water bottle syndrome is a fascinating one, and I'm certain it's : an affectation or posing thing---- "Look at me, I'm sooooo healthy" : : It's mainly younger folk, but they seem utterly unable to move about : the workplace without dragging along their water bottle. I did a : little private survey a while ago, and did observe some correlation : between those who habitually carry water bottles and poorer : performance. No, it was not very scientific and it was a sample of : about 25, but it was far from true that "constant rehydration" equals : a sharper mind, as is often espoused. : : Barry Did you hear about that woman that OD'd on water and died as a result of water drinking contest recently? Also, what about the germs and dirt, etc on the used surfaces that are used, constantly growing into a possible biohazard? Have seen some articles that indicate such practices should actually be banned (but they did have their own agenda, so who knows how "good" those articles were). |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:55:00 GMT, Lord Valve
Gave us: Hammond contacts were a platinum-iridium alloy, and the bussbars were palladium. Not likely. Palladium PLATED perhaps. Solid palladium isn't cheap. Main use in industry is as a target for X-ray Tubes. Strike it with an electron stream, and x-ray flux is the product. Some of those tubes are $900 each. |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:55:00 GMT, Lord Valve
Gave us: This is a fine ****ing match, and anyone who hands a disgusting piece of **** like Cowell his ass gets my vote, but...Baldwin? Excuse me while I regurgitate. Technical considerations aside, the Hammond is good at what Hammonds are good at - jazz, blues, gospel, and rock - and Baldwins, well, aren't. You are right, they aren't in the forefront. Hammond isn't either. At least Baldwin is still in business and has a web site. I don't profess to know about them to a great degree, however. Hell, we can do synth on our computers these days, and velocity sensitive keyboards are the **** if you get a good one. Roland and Yamaha comes to mind. Still, he could have simply admitted error, instead of the "kiss my ass" crap, and subsequent malaria (Napoleon's version). |
Solder sniffers beware,,, lead = bad
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:55:00 GMT, Lord Valve
Gave us: The Hammond is inextricably woven into the fabric of American popular music, with a rich history that extends back into the heyday of the radio era. I know... I was merely lashing out at the old fart. |
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