On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:47:34 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

...Jim Thompson

Thranx. Now i can spend some quality time with it. Already gave
first pass to the first 20 pages, and i do NOT like much of the
language about "the Commissioner". That is a lot of power and no
checks and balances.

flipper wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

That's right. And this is how Obama manages to get his 'technically
correct' wording to fly. As long as you have it 'now' you can keep it
but after the bill is passed your 'choices' are "government mandated."

No, they are not. And you cannot find the text which mandates any choice.

What you mean is, insurance offerings will be regulated. But it's all
regulated now.

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:41:37 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

[snip]

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

That's right. And this is how Obama manages to get his 'technically
correct' wording to fly. As long as you have it 'now' you can keep it
but after the bill is passed your 'choices' are "government
mandated."

That is the 'game' part to 'sell' it. You can 'keep' what you've got,
to fool people into thinking "this won't affect 'me'," but, according
to the people who 'favor' this strategy of deception, after about 10
years or so these will fade away by attrition because, should your
status change, you will have only one choice: the government dictated
plans which, themselves, will fade away because they will not, by
design, be able to 'compete' with a government that can, as has
already been demonstrated, regulate it's 'competitor', tax whoever it
pleases, including it's 'competitor', and infinitely deficit spend
whether it has the money or not.

To call that 'competition' is a farce and an even bigger farce when
Obama opines he just can't 'see' how private enterprise could have a
problem 'competing' with government. But, then, charlatan nonsense is
his modus operandi, unless you want to claim he's incredibly stupid.


You guys will fall for anything. lol


This "Ouroboros Rex" seems so ignorant I'm tempted to think he's
NymNoNuts in another disguise, but the originating IP doesn't match.

However he's certainly proved himself worthy of being ignored ;-)

You should certainly ignore me, now that your hoax has been exposed by
merely quoting the previous paragraph of the bill. lol

Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be considered
grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

In article , says...
WangoTango wrote:
In article , says...

The issue is not that you would be 'free to chose' what the
government dictates. It's that you would *not* be free to chose
anything else.

Sounds like any government regulation anywhere.

EXACTLY the point, get it?

Yep. The complainant is in a fantasy world.

I'm sure you will be first in line for your "free" health care.

WangoTango wrote:
In article , says...
WangoTango wrote:
In article , says...

The issue is not that you would be 'free to chose' what the
government dictates. It's that you would *not* be free to chose
anything else.

Sounds like any government regulation anywhere.

EXACTLY the point, get it?

Yep. The complainant is in a fantasy world.

I'm sure you will be first in line for your "free" health care.

What you mean is, you agree with me that there is no insurance that is not
already regulated, but do not want to say so.

As for myself, there's a fund to keep me taken care of. I simply don't
have to care. But your attempting to assign a profit motive to me just for
being correct is charming, in that kindergarten-playground way right wingers
have.

JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

The usual.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

The usual.


The commentary this morning... "You are free to choose between
government program A, government program B, government program C,
government program D..."

I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(

"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat... other
than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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All Hail Obama and the 40 Thieves (pardon me, "CZAR's)

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted
it to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what
**** can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

The usual.


The commentary this morning... "You are free to choose between
government program A, government program B, government program C,
government program D..."

Suuuure. Fox again? lol

I keep hoping you guys can give me something to actually be concerned
about, here, but it just hasn't happened.


I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(

Since it's not single payer, that's almost a given.


"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat... other
than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)

This is what right wingers refer to as 'debating the issues.'



...Jim Thompson
James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | |
Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat |
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All Hail Obama and the 40 Thieves (pardon me, "CZAR's)

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:27:41 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:
[snip]

I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(

Since it's not single payer, that's almost a given.


"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat... other
than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)

This is what right wingers refer to as 'debating the issues.'



No! The title is "Last Rites". Effectiveness of scum filter
confirmed. You've been moved from "Mark" to "Delete". Bye ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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All Hail Obama and the 40 Thieves (pardon me, "CZAR's)

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:27:41 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:
[snip]

I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(

Since it's not single payer, that's almost a given.


"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat...
other than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)

This is what right wingers refer to as 'debating the issues.'



No! The title is "Last Rites". Effectiveness of scum filter
confirmed. You've been moved from "Mark" to "Delete".

Yes, busted liars often do that. =)

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:27:41 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:
[snip]
I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(
Since it's not single payer, that's almost a given.

"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat... other
than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)
This is what right wingers refer to as 'debating the issues.'



No! The title is "Last Rites". Effectiveness of scum filter
confirmed. You've been moved from "Mark" to "Delete". Bye ;-)

...Jim Thompson

This is how Jim handles ideas he can not handle.

Love You Jim

don

Ouroboros Rex wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Jamie wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:


On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:




"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message
news:i2lu551cendbn0p4ehd57nrv625diiv0dj@4ax. com...

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com



It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The
House server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll
give you a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free
Choice" title ;-) Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole,
but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant,
and you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have
time to search right now... upcoming conference call on
transferring a chip design I did a few years ago to ADI
Limerick... and I can't remember what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson

Age kicking in ?

You know, they say that is one of two things that happen when you
get old, the second, you most likely can't remember.



And you never knew, dimbulb.



You lost it a long time ago, that is, if you ever had any
credibility to start with.

And i'll bring something else to light while i'm on the subject.

As I stated in the past, you can not just sit there and leave well
enough alone, keeping your foot out of your mouth.

The comment I made to Jim had nothing to do with you, how ever, you
found it to be an excuse to stick your asshole disposition in there,
didn't you?

Well, let me enlighten you a little, You are one of the most
arrogant, instigating, lack of personality, ass whips that exist here.

What's the manner, you have little man's disease?

Now, go cry wolf about how you're getting picked on, and you're the
lonely wounded little boy.., Yes, I said boy, that's about what you
act like when you launch attacks on people that have not address you
in any manner or harassed you for some time now.

poor excuse for a human, I bet you voted for Oboma, it would be
typical. The majority did out of ignorance, it just seems to fit with
you.


You lost, get over it. =)

I didn't lose anything sir.

I merely stated the facts as they are.

Just watching him make his asinine comments, like he does, to just
about any one that doesn't suit him, proves beyond unquestionable doubt
that he's nothing but a lonely sorry loser.

I'm sure many others here have observed abuse that he launches out on
people. If it was just me, maybe I would just sit back how ever, it's
obvious he's nothing but an old retired, miserable prick with something
stuck up, you know where. He may think the world owns him something, I
don't.

In article , says...
WangoTango wrote:
In article , says...
WangoTango wrote:
In article , says...

The issue is not that you would be 'free to chose' what the
government dictates. It's that you would *not* be free to chose
anything else.

Sounds like any government regulation anywhere.

EXACTLY the point, get it?

Yep. The complainant is in a fantasy world.

I'm sure you will be first in line for your "free" health care.

What you mean is, you agree with me that there is no insurance that is not
already regulated, but do not want to say so.
Boy, you sure read a lot into a simple comment.
What am I thinking of now?


As for myself, there's a fund to keep me taken care of. I simply don't
have to care. But your attempting to assign a profit motive to me just for
being correct is charming, in that kindergarten-playground way right wingers
have.

See above.......

"Ouroboros Rex" wrote in message
...
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

You’re an idiot.

Jamie wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Jamie wrote:


Jim Thompson wrote:


On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:




"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message
...

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to
private insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com



It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The
House server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on
I'll give you a page number. It's apparently hidden under a
"Free Choice" title ;-) Not that it matters to me... I'm already on
the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant,
and you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have
time to search right now... upcoming conference call on
transferring a chip design I did a few years ago to ADI
Limerick... and I can't remember what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson

Age kicking in ?

You know, they say that is one of two things that happen when you
get old, the second, you most likely can't remember.



And you never knew, dimbulb.



You lost it a long time ago, that is, if you ever had any
credibility to start with.

And i'll bring something else to light while i'm on the subject.

As I stated in the past, you can not just sit there and leave well
enough alone, keeping your foot out of your mouth.

The comment I made to Jim had nothing to do with you, how ever, you
found it to be an excuse to stick your asshole disposition in there,
didn't you?

Well, let me enlighten you a little, You are one of the most
arrogant, instigating, lack of personality, ass whips that exist
here. What's the manner, you have little man's disease?

Now, go cry wolf about how you're getting picked on, and you're the
lonely wounded little boy.., Yes, I said boy, that's about what you
act like when you launch attacks on people that have not address you
in any manner or harassed you for some time now.

poor excuse for a human, I bet you voted for Oboma, it would be
typical. The majority did out of ignorance, it just seems to fit
with you.


You lost, get over it. =)

I didn't lose anything sir.

I merely stated the facts as they are.

No, you simply lied:

poor excuse for a human, I bet you voted for Oboma, it would be
typical. The majority did out of ignorance, it just seems to fit
with you.

Life's tough, better luck in 2016.

Martin Riddle wrote:
"Ouroboros Rex" wrote in message
...
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

You're an idiot.

Does that mean you have some? Since you didn't produce any, I'm guessing
that's a no..?

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:23:09 -0400, Jamie t wrote:

poor excuse for a human, I bet you voted for Oboma, it would be
typical. The majority did out of ignorance, it just seems to fit with you.

Oboma? Oboma? Oboma? Never heard of Oboma, so why should I vote Oboma?

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:02 -0400, Ouroboros Rex wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

No cite? Odd.

Not odd: just that well hidden :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:09:47 -0700, Joe Brophy
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


I wish there were no provisions to prevent non-government
providers from denying coverage to new or existing clients.
Eventually, most if not all would end up in the government
run plan anyway, as they were forced off of their
non-government plans for being "poor risk".

The health care providers have done a whale of a job
instilling "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) in the
currently covered US population, citing "long lines",
"rationed coverage", etc. etc. When at the same time, 47
million tax-paying, working class citizens have no means to
get covered at all. Damn good media campaign, especially
when their efforts never once cite another country's
"failures" with their universal coverage plans. Crackerjack
marketeers they are. Even offered up guaranteed cost
reductions to keep the current (non) "system". Why now? Why
not before? Here we go again, only this time it is not
"Weapons of Mass Destruction", it is not being capable of
providing health care for our citizens. Didn't I hear
someone recently describe our country as "The greatest
nation on earth!"? By what measure, I ask. regards, Joe.

Does it trouble you that you're grotesquely brain-washed. Not only
are your general facts wrong, but also your numbers.

But you probably voted for Obama, so you'll get what you deserve.

Those of us independent enough to survive on our own (and that
includes my children and grandchildren, having been appropriately
raised) will ultimately prevail and DOMINATE ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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Only Obama can prevent excessive tonsillectomies

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:09:47 -0700, Joe Brophy
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


I wish there were no provisions to prevent non-government
providers from denying coverage to new or existing clients.
Eventually, most if not all would end up in the government
run plan anyway, as they were forced off of their
non-government plans for being "poor risk".

The health care providers have done a whale of a job
instilling "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) in the
currently covered US population, citing "long lines",
"rationed coverage", etc. etc. When at the same time, 47
million tax-paying, working class citizens have no means to
get covered at all. Damn good media campaign, especially
when their efforts never once cite another country's
"failures" with their universal coverage plans. Crackerjack
marketeers they are. Even offered up guaranteed cost
reductions to keep the current (non) "system". Why now? Why
not before? Here we go again, only this time it is not
"Weapons of Mass Destruction", it is not being capable of
providing health care for our citizens. Didn't I hear
someone recently describe our country as "The greatest
nation on earth!"? By what measure, I ask. regards, Joe.

Does it trouble you that you're grotesquely brain-washed. Not only
are your general facts wrong, but also your numbers.

Doubtful. However, he did offer some. =)