Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson
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Is Obama "The Manchurian Candidate" Trained and Planted by Osama?

"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson
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Is Obama "The Manchurian Candidate" Trained and Planted by Osama?

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message
Upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

I'm going to bet it's a PLL... :-)

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:53:21 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message
Upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

I'm going to bet it's a PLL... :-)


That would normally be a good guess.

But, in this case, it's wrong.

Chip is an RFID Tag, designed originally on an old 0.6um AMIS process.
And used with a separate microprocessor.

Now going onto a 0.35um TSMC process and will be immersed into a uP
chip.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food

Jim Thompson wrote:

Chip is an RFID Tag, designed originally on an old 0.6um AMIS process.
And used with a separate microprocessor.

Now going onto a 0.35um TSMC process and will be immersed into a uP
chip.

Is that the one with the "Tom Del Rosso 8-gate edge-triggered S-R flip flop"
used as the phase detector?

To quote you from that time, "You are in a product."


--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio.

Was it like the IBD editorial, where it says you can't except as described
in the paragraph, then leaves off the rest of the paragraph?

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:08:42 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio.

Was it like the IBD editorial, where it says you can't except as described
in the paragraph, then leaves off the rest of the paragraph?


****ing leftist weenie... it's Page 16 of the bill.

How can you live a life of lies?

...Jim Thompson
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Is Obama "The Manchurian Candidate" Trained and Planted by Osama?

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:08:42 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio.

Was it like the IBD editorial, where it says you can't except as
described in the paragraph, then leaves off the rest of the
paragraph?


****ing leftist weenie... it's Page 16 of the bill.

And the part that makes your comment a lie is on page 19.

How can you live a life of lies?

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com



It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson
Age kicking in ?

You know, they say that is one of two things that happen when you get
old, the second, you most likely can't remember.

Jamie wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com



It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson
Age kicking in ?

You know, they say that is one of two things that happen when you get
old, the second, you most likely can't remember.


And you never knew, dimbulb.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:



"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...


Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com



It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson

Age kicking in ?

You know, they say that is one of two things that happen when you get
old, the second, you most likely can't remember.



And you never knew, dimbulb.


You lost it a long time ago, that is, if you ever had any
credibility to start with.

And i'll bring something else to light while i'm on the subject.

As I stated in the past, you can not just sit there and leave well
enough alone, keeping your foot out of your mouth.

The comment I made to Jim had nothing to do with you, how ever, you
found it to be an excuse to stick your asshole disposition in there,
didn't you?

Well, let me enlighten you a little, You are one of the most
arrogant, instigating, lack of personality, ass whips that exist here.

What's the manner, you have little man's disease?

Now, go cry wolf about how you're getting picked on, and you're the
lonely wounded little boy.., Yes, I said boy, that's about what you act
like when you launch attacks on people that have not address you in any
manner or harassed you for some time now.

poor excuse for a human, I bet you voted for Oboma, it would be
typical. The majority did out of ignorance, it just seems to fit with you.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:44:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(


To really put things into the proper light here...

Consider what our new admin has been doing to us and the nation since
it began...

Then think.. have you ever seen what the elephant does before it
actually gets its screw on?

Are you aware of just how in control of its prick the elephant is?

"Can't say you wont feel this one, boys. You may not feel much
afterwards, however..."

I can only hope that after the screwing this country gets, it will
finally wake up and realize that we need another party, one with actual
seats on the congressional and senate floors.

And at least half of you democratic party sheep should wake up and
realize that the dems ain't what they claim themselves to be and jump
ship.

Truth be told, not a damned one of them are worth a **** any more,
because they ALL turn their heads and look the other way when one of
their own ****s up. It was bad enough when cops did it.

UltimatePatriot wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:44:30 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(


To really put things into the proper light here...

Consider what our new admin has been doing to us and the nation since
it began...

Then think.. have you ever seen what the elephant does before it
actually gets its screw on?

Are you aware of just how in control of its prick the elephant is?

"Can't say you wont feel this one, boys. You may not feel much
afterwards, however..."

I can only hope that after the screwing this country gets, it will
finally wake up and realize that we need another party, one with
actual seats on the congressional and senate floors.

And at least half of you democratic party sheep should wake up and
realize that the dems ain't what they claim themselves to be and jump
ship.

Truth be told, not a damned one of them are worth a **** any more,
because they ALL turn their heads and look the other way when one of
their own ****s up. It was bad enough when cops did it.

Not at all. The dems are quite happy to toss their misbehaving leaders
overboard.

Republicans apologize for getting caught while Fox Lies puts a "D" next to
their name on TV. lol

"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson

I'm on the dole, as you call it, due to permanent disability, but,
I've been needing suppliment insurance, up to now simply not paying
co-pays if they were too large to handle. Nibbling at them a few $$
here and there. I wonder how that affects folks like me.

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:36 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


It was just read directly from the document on Fox Radio. The House
server is over-loaded (wonder why?). When I can get on I'll give you
a page number. It's apparently hidden under a "Free Choice" title ;-)

Not that it matters to me... I'm already on the dole, but you guys
still out there working are about to be screwed by the elephant, and
you ain't going to even be kissed :-(

Apparently it's also on Michelle Malkin's site, but I don't have time
to search right now... upcoming conference call on transferring a chip
design I did a few years ago to ADI Limerick... and I can't remember
what I did ;-0

...Jim Thompson

I'm on the dole, as you call it, due to permanent disability, but,
I've been needing suppliment insurance, up to now simply not paying
co-pays if they were too large to handle. Nibbling at them a few $$
here and there. I wonder how that affects folks like me.

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


I find Mutual of Omaha really fine as a supplemental.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


Page 16 of the bill.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:35:58 -0400, "Garberstreet Electronics"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

Could you show your source for this 'fact'.

Thanks Jim,

Garberstreet Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com


Page 16 of the bill.

Page 19 states individual coverage may be offered if it is an
exchange-participating plan.

End of hoax.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_234372.html

Do you guys always get this excited over a first version of a bill from
just the House?

Jim Thompson wrote:
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

No cite? Odd.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:02 -0400, Ouroboros Rex wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

No cite? Odd.

Not odd: just that well hidden :-) .

Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

...Jim Thompson
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Is Obama "The Manchurian Candidate" Trained and Planted by Osama?

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be considered
grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be considered
grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

The usual.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

JosephKK wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

You guys will fall for anything. lol

And just what do you think happens when you change employers, as so
many young people do.

The usual.


The commentary this morning... "You are free to choose between
government program A, government program B, government program C,
government program D..."

I wouldn't bet on the retention of HSA's either, particularly since
the OMB predicts the bill will INCREASE medical costs :-(

"Ouroboros Rex" is an idiot, a queer, a fairy, and a Democrat... other
than that he's probably an alright guy ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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All Hail Obama and the 40 Thieves (pardon me, "CZAR's)

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:41:37 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

[snip]

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be considered
grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date specified.

That's right. And this is how Obama manages to get his 'technically
correct' wording to fly. As long as you have it 'now' you can keep it
but after the bill is passed your 'choices' are "government mandated."

That is the 'game' part to 'sell' it. You can 'keep' what you've got,
to fool people into thinking "this won't affect 'me'," but, according
to the people who 'favor' this strategy of deception, after about 10
years or so these will fade away by attrition because, should your
status change, you will have only one choice: the government dictated
plans which, themselves, will fade away because they will not, by
design, be able to 'compete' with a government that can, as has
already been demonstrated, regulate it's 'competitor', tax whoever it
pleases, including it's 'competitor', and infinitely deficit spend
whether it has the money or not.

To call that 'competition' is a farce and an even bigger farce when
Obama opines he just can't 'see' how private enterprise could have a
problem 'competing' with government. But, then, charlatan nonsense is
his modus operandi, unless you want to claim he's incredibly stupid.


You guys will fall for anything. lol


This "Ouroboros Rex" seems so ignorant I'm tempted to think he's
NymNoNuts in another disguise, but the originating IP doesn't match.

However he's certainly proved himself worthy of being ignored ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Liberals are so ignorant...
They don't even know the definition of ignorant

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:41:37 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

[snip]

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

That's right. And this is how Obama manages to get his 'technically
correct' wording to fly. As long as you have it 'now' you can keep it
but after the bill is passed your 'choices' are "government
mandated."

That is the 'game' part to 'sell' it. You can 'keep' what you've got,
to fool people into thinking "this won't affect 'me'," but, according
to the people who 'favor' this strategy of deception, after about 10
years or so these will fade away by attrition because, should your
status change, you will have only one choice: the government dictated
plans which, themselves, will fade away because they will not, by
design, be able to 'compete' with a government that can, as has
already been demonstrated, regulate it's 'competitor', tax whoever it
pleases, including it's 'competitor', and infinitely deficit spend
whether it has the money or not.

To call that 'competition' is a farce and an even bigger farce when
Obama opines he just can't 'see' how private enterprise could have a
problem 'competing' with government. But, then, charlatan nonsense is
his modus operandi, unless you want to claim he's incredibly stupid.


You guys will fall for anything. lol


This "Ouroboros Rex" seems so ignorant I'm tempted to think he's
NymNoNuts in another disguise, but the originating IP doesn't match.

However he's certainly proved himself worthy of being ignored ;-)

You should certainly ignore me, now that your hoax has been exposed by
merely quoting the previous paragraph of the bill. lol

flipper wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:25:59 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it
to my own website to make it easier for you all to see what ****
can come forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that
doubling a tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that,
guess what? Enjoy!

Ah, thanks, this one is copyable.

(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COV4
ERAGE DEFINED.-Subject to the succeeding provisions of
5 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable cov6
erage under this division, the term ''grandfathered health
7 insurance coverage'' means individual health insurance
8 coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the
9 first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.-
11 (A) IN GENERAL.-Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first ef15
fective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

In other words, all the part IBD quoted means is that to be
considered grandfathered coverage, it has to begin before the date
specified.

That's right. And this is how Obama manages to get his 'technically
correct' wording to fly. As long as you have it 'now' you can keep it
but after the bill is passed your 'choices' are "government mandated."

No, they are not. And you cannot find the text which mandates any choice.

What you mean is, insurance offerings will be regulated. But it's all
regulated now.

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:47:34 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

The House server is flaky. I finally got a full copy and posted it to
my own website to make it easier for you all to see what **** can come
forth from Democrats...

www.analog-innovations.com/SED/HR3200_Health.pdf

AND: Any sane observer can also see that middle class taxes are
required to pay for this. Congress doesn't understand that doubling a
tax rate DOES NOT DOUBLE revenue. When they see that, guess what?
Enjoy!

...Jim Thompson

Thranx. Now i can spend some quality time with it. Already gave
first pass to the first 20 pages, and i do NOT like much of the
language about "the Commissioner". That is a lot of power and no
checks and balances.

Jim Thompson wrote:
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson

So basically they are saying:

"Fine you go out that door and leave me, you are never coming back, your
dead to me".

At $17 K per year for private insurance for my spouse and I, "such a deal!"

--
Joe Leikhim K4SAT
"The RFI-EMI-GUY"©

"Use only Genuine Interocitor Parts" Tom Servo ;-P

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

"Ouroboros Rex" wrote in message
...
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

You’re an idiot.

Martin Riddle wrote:
"Ouroboros Rex" wrote in message
...
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


Better save up for the Black market health care?

One word comes to mind, Socialism.

Cheers

Remember, there is apparently no evidence for Jim's claim.

You're an idiot.

Does that mean you have some? Since you didn't produce any, I'm guessing
that's a no..?

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:09:47 -0700, Joe Brophy
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


I wish there were no provisions to prevent non-government
providers from denying coverage to new or existing clients.
Eventually, most if not all would end up in the government
run plan anyway, as they were forced off of their
non-government plans for being "poor risk".

The health care providers have done a whale of a job
instilling "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) in the
currently covered US population, citing "long lines",
"rationed coverage", etc. etc. When at the same time, 47
million tax-paying, working class citizens have no means to
get covered at all. Damn good media campaign, especially
when their efforts never once cite another country's
"failures" with their universal coverage plans. Crackerjack
marketeers they are. Even offered up guaranteed cost
reductions to keep the current (non) "system". Why now? Why
not before? Here we go again, only this time it is not
"Weapons of Mass Destruction", it is not being capable of
providing health care for our citizens. Didn't I hear
someone recently describe our country as "The greatest
nation on earth!"? By what measure, I ask. regards, Joe.

Does it trouble you that you're grotesquely brain-washed. Not only
are your general facts wrong, but also your numbers.

But you probably voted for Obama, so you'll get what you deserve.

Those of us independent enough to survive on our own (and that
includes my children and grandchildren, having been appropriately
raised) will ultimately prevail and DOMINATE ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Only Obama can prevent excessive tonsillectomies

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:09:47 -0700, Joe Brophy
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:36 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Fact, in Obama's "Universal" Health Plan:

Switch to the government plan... you can NEVER go back to private
insurance.

Neatly hidden in the bill verbiage :-(

...Jim Thompson


I wish there were no provisions to prevent non-government
providers from denying coverage to new or existing clients.
Eventually, most if not all would end up in the government
run plan anyway, as they were forced off of their
non-government plans for being "poor risk".

The health care providers have done a whale of a job
instilling "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) in the
currently covered US population, citing "long lines",
"rationed coverage", etc. etc. When at the same time, 47
million tax-paying, working class citizens have no means to
get covered at all. Damn good media campaign, especially
when their efforts never once cite another country's
"failures" with their universal coverage plans. Crackerjack
marketeers they are. Even offered up guaranteed cost
reductions to keep the current (non) "system". Why now? Why
not before? Here we go again, only this time it is not
"Weapons of Mass Destruction", it is not being capable of
providing health care for our citizens. Didn't I hear
someone recently describe our country as "The greatest
nation on earth!"? By what measure, I ask. regards, Joe.

Does it trouble you that you're grotesquely brain-washed. Not only
are your general facts wrong, but also your numbers.

Doubtful. However, he did offer some. =)