New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

If you expect to do any editing, you are probably best off with a tape based
camcorder. If this is an HD camcorder, you really need to dig in to the
tradeoffs between tape, Hard Drive, semiconductor, and DVD. People I know
who are into this seem to sneer at the DVD based recorders.

Tam

"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:34:40 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Sony digital (kind that uses a tape). I have a small Mini DV Sony that
takes wonderful movies in 16:9 or 4:3. Has a touch screen display, Super
Night Vision, remote, USB etc...etc... and fits in the palm of your hand.

I have seen really bad reviews on the touch screen, and would go with Canon
or Panasonic. Most important is to be sure it works with whatever editing
program you plan to get, Adobe, Pinnacle, and Roxio; probably in that order.

I have a non HD Canon (16:9 & 4:3) and use it mostly with Pinnacle Studio.
For low light use, the Panasonic is a lot better because of the 3 CCD
pickup.

Tam

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.


I'll probably get totally flamed for even thinking this... But my
recommendation is to get a Casio EX-V7 Camera.

Last year, on a trip to Japan I bought a Sony DVD - I have the DCR mini-dV
at home but did not want to lug the camera around so I could transfer images
and video into the computer. The DVD concept was neat as heck, and the super
Night shot was great! But, within a month, I'd given up using it - it was a
power-hog and the DVD's were prone to errors.

Then I bought the under-$300 Casio camera - a 7-MPix camera with a 7x
optical zoom that also takes hi-res Mpeg4 video with stereo sound (playable
with Quicktime and others). It uses SD and SDHC cards - currently up to 8GB
capacity are available and you can fit about 1 hour of video on each GB. The
package is about the size of a deck of playing cards without any protruding
lens. I've since taken over 40 hours of video and untold hundreds of images
with excellent results. And I can carry it everywhere all the time in my
jacket pocket.

So, get the Sony or the recommended 3-ccd job, but get the Casio as well. In
all likelyhood, you'll end up using the little digicam more that all your
other video toys put together!

QS



...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Canon's got a pretty nice miniature HDTV Camcorder for about $950 street
price, the HV10.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/canon_hv10

If you've got that kind of display may be worth it.

Robert H.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:34:40 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


...Jim Thompson
A couple of years ago I bought a Canon ZR90. It is small, about $500,
uses tapes OR SD cards. It has enough features to meet my needs and
not so many as to keep me confused. The SD cards have come down in
price enough to make me consider them instead of tape!

I tend to take my cameras wherever I go and about half of them expire
to accident, theft or loss.

John Ferrell W8CCW
"Life is easier if you learn to
plow around the stumps"

In article , John Ferrell wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:34:40 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


...Jim Thompson
A couple of years ago I bought a Canon ZR90. It is small, about $500,
uses tapes OR SD cards. It has enough features to meet my needs and
not so many as to keep me confused. The SD cards have come down in
price enough to make me consider them instead of tape!

I tend to take my cameras wherever I go and about half of them expire
to accident, theft or loss.

John Ferrell W8CCW
"Life is easier if you learn to
plow around the stumps"

I got an older Sony just before everybody downsized a few years ago. The downsized models didn't
have full A/V inputs and outputs, so I'm still satisfied. The model I have also has great
sound. It doesn't overload like many. I have recorded bands and jet dragsters. Well the
jet does start to overload somewhat. One thing I hate about mine is when there
is a memory stick in there, I sometimes put it into Stick opperation, then
I soon got a memory full warning, thinking I was going to tape. Through the Sony, I converted
a bunch of VHS video tapes to computer, video in/ firewire out, edited and made CD's.

greg

"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:46:31 -0500, Tam/WB2TT wrote:


"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:34:40 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Sony digital (kind that uses a tape). I have a small Mini DV Sony that
takes wonderful movies in 16:9 or 4:3. Has a touch screen display, Super
Night Vision, remote, USB etc...etc... and fits in the palm of your
hand.

I have seen really bad reviews on the touch screen, and would go with
Canon
or Panasonic. Most important is to be sure it works with whatever editing
program you plan to get, Adobe, Pinnacle, and Roxio; probably in that
order.

Mine is 4 years old and works flawlessly. You're going to have isolated
problems with any brand. As far as software goes, Pinnacle works fine with
Sony stuff.

It works. Some people find it annoying as hell, though.

Tam

I have a non HD Canon (16:9 & 4:3) and use it mostly with Pinnacle
Studio.
For low light use, the Panasonic is a lot better because of the 3 CCD
pickup.

Tam

My sony works in no light.

"Robert" wrote in message
...

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Canon's got a pretty nice miniature HDTV Camcorder for about $950 street
price, the HV10.

Something to be said for the HV10 and HV20. They contain an A/D converter
which allows you to connect any analog source to the camcorder, and download
it to a PC via Firewire as digital. I know Jim's old camcorder does not
work, but when I was in the same shape I borrowed an HI8 camcorder from a
friend so I could make digital copies of my old HI8 tapes. I used a PCI
analog capture card, which I would not have needed with one of these Canons.

If you look at the HV10, look at the HV20 also. Both have Firewire. You
don't want to have to use HDMI.

Tam
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/canon_hv10

If you've got that kind of display may be worth it.

Robert H.

We use the Canon Elura 85 around the lab for making promo and product videos
and as yet, there hasn't been a thing I've needed that it didn't have.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

RST Engineering (jw) wrote:
We use the Canon Elura 85 around the lab for making promo and product videos
and as yet, there hasn't been a thing I've needed that it didn't have.

I second the Canon brand. Seems to be more
reliable and have better features than most
other brands.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:04:57 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

We use the Canon Elura 85 around the lab for making promo and product videos
and as yet, there hasn't been a thing I've needed that it didn't have.

Jim

What do you use for a video editing program?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Cyberlink's Power Director.

Jim

--
"If you think you can, or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:04:57 -0800, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote:

We use the Canon Elura 85 around the lab for making promo and product
videos
and as yet, there hasn't been a thing I've needed that it didn't have.

Jim

What do you use for a video editing program?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers:
http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers:
http://www.speff.com

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:45:58 -0500, Meat Plow
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:46:31 -0500, Tam/WB2TT wrote:


"Meat Plow" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:34:40 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most things
I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Sony digital (kind that uses a tape). I have a small Mini DV Sony that
takes wonderful movies in 16:9 or 4:3. Has a touch screen display, Super
Night Vision, remote, USB etc...etc... and fits in the palm of your hand.

I have seen really bad reviews on the touch screen, and would go with Canon
or Panasonic. Most important is to be sure it works with whatever editing
program you plan to get, Adobe, Pinnacle, and Roxio; probably in that order.

Mine is 4 years old and works flawlessly. You're going to have isolated
problems with any brand. As far as software goes, Pinnacle works fine with
Sony stuff.


I have a non HD Canon (16:9 & 4:3) and use it mostly with Pinnacle Studio.
For low light use, the Panasonic is a lot better because of the 3 CCD
pickup.

Tam

My sony works in no light.

Excellent! it makes videos for the blind!


--
JF

Jim Thompson posted to
sci.electronics.design:

New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points available
on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for most
things I've seen.

...Jim Thompson

Ab initio, get hi-definition and hard disk recording, with the biggest
disk, the big batteries are a cost of this. Failing to get hi-def at
this time is an error.

Tam/WB2TT posted to sci.electronics.design:


"Jim Thompson"
wrote in message ...
New grandson, 15 year old _dead_ camcorder :-(

What's the newest game in town that you would recommend?

Price is _almost_ no object, I have so many freebie points
available on my Amex that I probably won't have to spend a dime for
most things I've seen.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

If you expect to do any editing, you are probably best off with a
tape based camcorder. If this is an HD camcorder, you really need to
dig in to the tradeoffs between tape, Hard Drive, semiconductor, and
DVD. People I know who are into this seem to sneer at the DVD based
recorders.

Tam

I completely recommend HiDef now. The current best is Disk but in 6
months to a year that may switch to semiconductor.