Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

OK thats you but how about the scanner?



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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

What have you been scanning that's steaming up the window?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson


Most well designed scanners have a method to address just this need.

You should be able to DL the manual from the HP site as well.

It should even appear intuitive. Well.... to some... ;-]

Usually, one of the ends has a cap that comes off, like the paper stop
end after removing part of the scanner apron or such.

On Wed, 30 May 2007 22:24:46 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

What have you been scanning that's steaming up the window?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


Jeez. Three responses from three "folks" and not one actually helped.

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

What have you been scanning that's steaming up the window?


The P.I.'s reports on 'Flat *******'?


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(



Jim, I have an HP3970 and there are 4 screws in the bottom corners.
I would guess that you should remove them as a start. Be careful as
much of the slide mechanism may be held in place by the bottom cover.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 04:44:34 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

What have you been scanning that's steaming up the window?


The P.I.'s reports on 'Flat *******'?

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)


Ok, if you'll post all your "Weather in Arizona" stuff somewhere
else. I can't afford to keep a dog, and you have to admit that ol' Jack
comes a' running everytime I call him. I shoud say, As long as h
doesn't step on his tounge and trips.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Did you remove the screws Jim?

I don't need to clean mine so I won't be disassembling it any time soon.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:03:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)


Ok, if you'll post all your "Weather in Arizona" stuff somewhere
else. I can't afford to keep a dog, and you have to admit that ol' Jack
comes a' running everytime I call him. I shoud say, As long as h
doesn't step on his tounge and trips.

Damn!! You made me spew my coffee again ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:03:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)


Ok, if you'll post all your "Weather in Arizona" stuff somewhere
else. I can't afford to keep a dog, and you have to admit that ol' Jack
comes a' running everytime I call him. I shoud say, As long as h
doesn't step on his tounge and trips.

Damn!! You made me spew my coffee again ;-)


What can I say? My health is slowly improving after the surgery, and
so is my timing! When are you going to learn to throw a clear drop
cloth over your monitor and keyboard before reading ANY of my posts? ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:28:28 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:03:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)


Ok, if you'll post all your "Weather in Arizona" stuff somewhere
else. I can't afford to keep a dog, and you have to admit that ol' Jack
comes a' running everytime I call him. I shoud say, As long as h
doesn't step on his tounge and trips.

Damn!! You made me spew my coffee again ;-)


What can I say? My health is slowly improving after the surgery, and
so is my timing! When are you going to learn to throw a clear drop
cloth over your monitor and keyboard before reading ANY of my posts? ;-)

My BAD ;-)

I am extremely happy that your health is improving!

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:28:28 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:03:30 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:33:18 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Still the perpetual, immature retard, you are.


Its SO hard for you to come up with new lines with only half a neuron
firing, isn't it, bitch.

Michael, Why don't you cross-post all your responses to jerks, such as
Shephard, to something like "alt.ima-****ing-jerk", so we can filter
it all out ?:-)


Ok, if you'll post all your "Weather in Arizona" stuff somewhere
else. I can't afford to keep a dog, and you have to admit that ol' Jack
comes a' running everytime I call him. I shoud say, As long as h
doesn't step on his tounge and trips.

Damn!! You made me spew my coffee again ;-)


What can I say? My health is slowly improving after the surgery, and
so is my timing! When are you going to learn to throw a clear drop
cloth over your monitor and keyboard before reading ANY of my posts? ;-)

My BAD ;-)

I am extremely happy that your health is improving!


Thanks. me too! :-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:06:08 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

[snip]

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Not surprising. They might still have some decent support people at HP
though unless they have laid them off and sent all the work to
Bangalore. Maybe they're afraid you'll cut yourself on the glass and
sue them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I will ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:21:47 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:10:37 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:06:08 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

[snip]

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Not surprising. They might still have some decent support people at HP
though unless they have laid them off and sent all the work to
Bangalore. Maybe they're afraid you'll cut yourself on the glass and
sue them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I will ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If they had only supplied proper instructions on how to perform the
task safely, as promised in their manual. By George, I think you have
a solid case, should you be so unfortunate as to injure yourself.

I will take special "pains" to satisfy the case ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Not surprising. They might still have some decent support people at HP
though unless they have laid them off and sent all the work to
Bangalore. Maybe they're afraid you'll cut yourself on the glass and
sue them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.
D from BC

D from BC wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.


Where DO you come up with these stupid ideas? Do you have any idea
of what kind of glass is used in a scanner? Do you have any idea how
its mounted? Or how critical the thickness is?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:10:37 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:06:08 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

[snip]

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Not surprising. They might still have some decent support people at HP
though unless they have laid them off and sent all the work to
Bangalore. Maybe they're afraid you'll cut yourself on the glass and
sue them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I will ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If they had only supplied proper instructions on how to perform the
task safely, as promised in their manual. By George, I think you have
a solid case, should you be so unfortunate as to injure yourself.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:12:27 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

D from BC wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.


Where DO you come up with these stupid ideas? Do you have any idea
of what kind of glass is used in a scanner? Do you have any idea how
its mounted? Or how critical the thickness is?

Hee hee I make'm up for the entertainment factor..
If the scanner is for non-critical scans..then it might be ok..
Getting good scans of porno mags might be questionable.

But yeah...I don't know much about scanners.. It shows?
D from BC

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:21:47 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:10:37 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 13:06:08 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

[snip]

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Not surprising. They might still have some decent support people at HP
though unless they have laid them off and sent all the work to
Bangalore. Maybe they're afraid you'll cut yourself on the glass and
sue them.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I will ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If they had only supplied proper instructions on how to perform the
task safely, as promised in their manual. By George, I think you have
a solid case, should you be so unfortunate as to injure yourself.

I will take special "pains" to satisfy the case ;-)


It might be like my old UMAX scanner that I had to remove the entire outer
case by pulling the 4 screws on the bottom. Use a lint free cloth and
windex.

Cheers

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.
All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)


You couldn't find this?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...&lang=en&cc=us

Did you try http://www.hp.com/support, like Speff suggested, or just
go to the bare www.hp.com?

Good Luck!
Rich

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:15:52 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Damn!! You made me spew my coffee again ;-)


You're so ****ing stupid that you thought *that* was funny?

BTW, dumb****, only me and one other respondent actually provided you
with viable answers. Nice that you're such a ****ing dolt that you
didn't notice.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.


I was unable to locate anything. Even the FAQ search for cleaning the
glass makes no mention of any surface other than the exposed surface.
Very lame, they are.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:57:40 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

If they had only supplied proper instructions on how to perform the
task safely, as promised in their manual. By George, I think you have
a solid case, should you be so unfortunate as to injure yourself.

I will take special "pains" to satisfy the case ;-)


Aim for your neck, idiot.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:07:30 GMT, D from BC
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.
D from BC


Are you really so stupid as to think that duct tape would stop glass
shards from getting all over the inside of the device?

That is more retarded than your Intellectual Property theft spew was.

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:12:27 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

D from BC wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.


Where DO you come up with these stupid ideas? Do you have any idea
of what kind of glass is used in a scanner? Do you have any idea how
its mounted? Or how critical the thickness is?


That has nothing to do with it, idiot. His stupidity lies in the duct
tape suggestion.

Glass might look green on edge, but a piece that thin is NOT going to
alter the color of a capture, so standard double strength glass would
surely work just fine, idiot.

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 00:29:32 GMT, Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.
All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)


You couldn't find this?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/p...&lang=en&cc=us

Did you try http://www.hp.com/support, like Speff suggested, or just
go to the bare www.hp.com?

Good Luck!
Rich


OK, idiot. Now find the instruction for cleaning the UNDERSIDE of the
glass.

You know... the dis-assembly procedure, and such...

I didn't see it, and I spent 15 minutes of my time looking for that
piece of **** Thompson's lazy ****tard ass. Now that I realize that he
is just as retarded as the TerrellTard, I won't give the ****head any
more of my time.

JackShephard wrote:

Glass might look green on edge, but a piece that thin is NOT going to
alter the color of a capture, so standard double strength glass would
surely work just fine, idiot.


Wow, you don't care how many people see how truely stupid you are. I
know a guy that tried 'standard double strength glass' instead of the
optical grade glass. It caused so much distortion in the scanned images
that it was useless, just like you.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

JackShephard wrote:

I didn't see it, and I spent 15 minutes of my time looking for that
piece of **** Thompson's lazy ****tard ass. Now that I realize that he
is just as retarded as the TerrellTard, I won't give the ****head any
more of my time.


Liar. You can't keep from replying to ANYONE, and you know it.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
JackShephard wrote:
I didn't see it, and I spent 15 minutes of my time looking for that
piece of **** Thompson's lazy ****tard ass. Now that I realize that he
is just as retarded as the TerrellTard, I won't give the ****head any
more of my time.


Liar. You can't keep from replying to ANYONE, and you know it.

Ah yes, and the irresistable f***tard finally comes out.

I'm not sure why dorkmatter/miniprong/RoyLFuchs/Nunyabidness/
SuperM/Tokamundo/joebloe/JackSheperd... even bothers to change his nym.
It only takes a couple of posts with a new nym before he returns
to his usual belligerent self.

Michael, if you would resist the urge to roll this cold ball
of monkey excrement around on the floor those of us who have
plonked him would sure appreciate it.... at the very least, your
fingers would be less smelly.

-Chuck

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:29:40 -0700, JackShephard
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:07:30 GMT, D from BC
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.
D from BC


Are you really so stupid as to think that duct tape would stop glass
shards from getting all over the inside of the device?

That is more retarded than your Intellectual Property theft spew was.

The duct tape helps but is not 100%.
That's why I suggested also turning the scanner upside down and then
cracking the glass enough such that it can be pulled away.

I did a very brief search for replacement glass.
http://www.anchoroptics.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=273

If you don't like the duct tape idea then how about this EVEN crazier
idea!!

Take a circular saw and cut off the entire top of the scanner.
Clean the glass and then glue the top back on.....


D from BC

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:06:06 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

Glass might look green on edge, but a piece that thin is NOT going to
alter the color of a capture, so standard double strength glass would
surely work just fine, idiot.


Wow, you don't care how many people see how truely stupid you are. I
know a guy that tried 'standard double strength glass' instead of the
optical grade glass. It caused so much distortion in the scanned images
that it was useless, just like you.

You're full of ****. He probably used a piece of 1800' era pan poured
glass. Par for the course with you, and your twited friends.

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 03:08:10 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

JackShephard wrote:

I didn't see it, and I spent 15 minutes of my time looking for that
piece of **** Thompson's lazy ****tard ass. Now that I realize that he
is just as retarded as the TerrellTard, I won't give the ****head any
more of my time.


Liar. You can't keep from replying to ANYONE, and you know it.


You're an idiot.

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 04:44:52 GMT, D from BC
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:29:40 -0700, JackShephard
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:07:30 GMT, D from BC
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:25 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 12:33:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:44:45 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone know how to dismantle and clean an hp3970?

I've developed a foggy looking coating on the _inside_ :-(

...Jim Thompson

The manual says:

For instructions on cleaning the underside of the scanner glass, go to
www.hp.com/support, select your country or region, navigate to the
support page for your scanner, then click the link to view information
about cleaning the underside of the glass.

So they at least promise to supply the information, and a support
request might be honored.

Here's info from a different HP scanner:
----------
If the 6200C is like the 6100C, which is mechanically similar
to my 4C ...
0. Disconnect power. Take anti-static precautions.
1. Remove the auto-feed assembly.
This should expose the rear Torx screwheads.
2. Remove the metal covers over the 2 front Torx screw heads.
3. Remove the screws and lift off the upper case w/glass.
4. Clean and replace.

Search the net for further platen glass cleaning advice.
--
Regards, Bob Niland private.php?do=newpm&u=
-----------


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

All I find on the absolutely worthless hp site is instructions to
disconnect power before wiping the outer surface of the glass ;-)

...Jim Thompson

If you get impatient and you're feeling destructive
And... the scanner is slow and old and it's time to get a new one then
do this risky thing:
1) Put duct tape on the glass
2) Turn it upside down and smash the glass with hammer
3) Replace glass with something cut by a glass shop
4) Silicone the new glass in place..
Note: You could also devise a means to make the glass easy to remove
for future cleaning. (drop in frame..)
The fog up might return.
D from BC


Are you really so stupid as to think that duct tape would stop glass
shards from getting all over the inside of the device?

That is more retarded than your Intellectual Property theft spew was.

The duct tape helps but is not 100%.
That's why I suggested also turning the scanner upside down and then
cracking the glass enough such that it can be pulled away.

I did a very brief search for replacement glass.
http://www.anchoroptics.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=273

Great prices. I was impressed, and thought the numbers would be much
higher.


If you don't like the duct tape idea then how about this EVEN crazier
idea!!

Take a circular saw and cut off the entire top of the scanner.
Clean the glass and then glue the top back on.....

You're nuts. You should have, at the very least, said "dremel tool".