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Seem Hard To Imagine Nobody Had A Single Thing To Say About Any Of This.

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I've been dreaming of an exquisite walnut/maple trumpet case, because I need
a trumpet case, and because I like the combination of walnut and maple.

I squirrled away a little cash I earned from a bit of moonlighting, and went
forth to ye olde butchered and baked tree merchant to purchase as much
walnut as I could afford.

Their walnut stock was abysmal.**Almost*every*last*board*was*thin,*cupped ,
severely twisted, and composed predominantly of sapwood.

I came home with the one walnut board that was pretty close to straight and
flat.**It's*a*mix*of*heart*and*sap,*but*it*has*som e*interesting*figure*if*I
don't plane it off when I work it up.

I also came home with 5 bf of mahogany.**Honduran,*Philipine,*Upper
Slobobian, Dinzl Ptekian, I have no clue.**It's*about*a*raw*sienna*color,
and the color is fairly even, though there is some striping.**The*butchered
treeseller's upstream supplier can supply either "African mahogany" or
"Genuine Mahogany."**I*don't*know*which*this*is,*and*neithe r*did*the*little
old lady behind the counter.**It*was*$4.98/bf*compared*to*$4.70/bf*for
walnut (the same prices they had a year ago, incidentally) if that makes it
likely to be one or the other.**I*have*a*vague*idea*that*it's*"supposed"*t o
be "genuine" mahogany.

I also spent up the last dregs of my cash on a couple bf of soft maple.

So now I'm trying to figure out what I want to do with this.**It*just*isn't
saying "trumpet case" to me anymore.**Actually,*now*that*I've*got*a
five-leg stand coming, my horn will almost never see the inside of the case
anyway.**If*I*ever*do*get*some*contacts*going*and* get*out*in*the*world*and
play with other people at some point, it might be cool to show off my
ridiculously snazzy trumpet case, but this is seeming less and less likely.
I've been trying to play the social life game a little, and it's just not
my bag.**I*was*born*to*be*a*hermit.

I've been thinking of doing another chess box, but I had intended to do
walnut/maple for that too.**I*have*a*real*thing*for*walnut.**Mahogany
looking interestingish, but it's not a color I'm really in love with.**It
seems a sure bet it needs to be mixed with something more interesting.
This figured heart/sap walnut is interesting.**I'm*thinking*maybe*a
predominantly mahogany chess box with this swirly walnut for the
contrasting element.**I'm*not*sure*if*this*will*be*a*letdown*c ompared*to
the walnut/maple vision I have to do eventually or not, really.**That*one*I
made for Dad last year sure is awful puuuuuuuuurty.

SWMBO doesn't need any jewelry boxes, and there's not enough wood here to
build anything of any real size.**I*guess*I'm*stuck*in*a*rut*on*chess
boxes, but I can't quite think of anything better to do with it.**It*sure
seems a waste of all this disgustingly expensive wood to make a trumpet
case out of it.

What say ye?**Also,*what*say*ye*about*trying*some*other*kin d*of*shellac*on
the two-tone walnut?**I'm*debating*whether*to*try*garnet*or*ora nge*instead
of the blonde I used last time.**It*might*darken*the*light*patches*a*little
and make everything look more walnutty, but then it might have unwanted
clashes with the (faux?) mahogany too.

While I think about it, I guess I'll stick it in the house.**I*still*don't
have any satisfactory way to store lumber flat in my shop.**I*should
probably let it sit a few weeks anyway before I work it.

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Silvan wrote:
I Am Reposting This One With A Lot Of Capital Letters And The Word
Mahogany In The Title In The Hope That Someone Will Take The Bait
This Time. It Seem Hard To Imagine Nobody Had A Single Thing To Say
About Any Of This.

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Personally I'd wait to get some walnut as I don't care for mahogany. Walnut
has so much more character. If you have a good trumpet then I'd wait for
the right selection of walnut for the case. If you have a pea shooter
trumpet like mine then........

I think showing off the trumpet with hand crafted walnut/maple case close by
would be awesome. If you use the mahogany you'll always be wondering how
much better it would have looked with walnut.

Now you have me thinking of making a nice case for my wife's flute (much
more than a pea shooter as she still plays and I don't)

Use the mahogany for other things like the chess box.

Gary


I've been dreaming of an exquisite walnut/maple trumpet case, because
I need a trumpet case, and because I like the combination of walnut
and maple.

I squirrled away a little cash I earned from a bit of moonlighting,
and went forth to ye olde butchered and baked tree merchant to
purchase as much walnut as I could afford.

Their walnut stock was abysmal. Almost every last board was thin,
cupped, severely twisted, and composed predominantly of sapwood.

I came home with the one walnut board that was pretty close to
straight and flat. It's a mix of heart and sap, but it has some
interesting figure if I don't plane it off when I work it up.

I also came home with 5 bf of mahogany. Honduran, Philipine, Upper
Slobobian, Dinzl Ptekian, I have no clue. It's about a raw sienna
color, and the color is fairly even, though there is some striping.
The butchered treeseller's upstream supplier can supply either
"African mahogany" or "Genuine Mahogany." I don't know which this is,
and neither did the little old lady behind the counter. It was
$4.98/bf compared to $4.70/bf for walnut (the same prices they had a
year ago, incidentally) if that makes it likely to be one or the
other. I have a vague idea that it's "supposed" to be "genuine"
mahogany.

I also spent up the last dregs of my cash on a couple bf of soft
maple.

So now I'm trying to figure out what I want to do with this. It just
isn't saying "trumpet case" to me anymore. Actually, now that I've
got a
five-leg stand coming, my horn will almost never see the inside of
the case anyway. If I ever do get some contacts going and get out in
the world and play with other people at some point, it might be cool
to show off my ridiculously snazzy trumpet case, but this is seeming
less and less likely. I've been trying to play the social life game a
little, and it's just not my bag. I was born to be a hermit.

I've been thinking of doing another chess box, but I had intended to
do walnut/maple for that too. I have a real thing for walnut. Mahogany
looking interestingish, but it's not a color I'm really in love with.
It seems a sure bet it needs to be mixed with something more
interesting.
This figured heart/sap walnut is interesting. I'm thinking maybe a
predominantly mahogany chess box with this swirly walnut for the
contrasting element. I'm not sure if this will be a letdown compared
to
the walnut/maple vision I have to do eventually or not, really. That
one I made for Dad last year sure is awful puuuuuuuuurty.

SWMBO doesn't need any jewelry boxes, and there's not enough wood
here to build anything of any real size. I guess I'm stuck in a rut
on chess
boxes, but I can't quite think of anything better to do with it. It
sure seems a waste of all this disgustingly expensive wood to make a
trumpet case out of it.

What say ye? Also, what say ye about trying some other kind of
shellac on the two-tone walnut? I'm debating whether to try garnet or
orange instead of the blonde I used last time. It might darken the
light patches a little and make everything look more walnutty, but
then it might have unwanted clashes with the (faux?) mahogany too.

While I think about it, I guess I'll stick it in the house. I still
don't have any satisfactory way to store lumber flat in my shop. I
should probably let it sit a few weeks anyway before I work it.



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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500, Silvan
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What say ye?*


You should be a writer. G

Barry
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On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500, Silvan
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*It*sure
seems a waste of all this disgustingly expensive wood to make a trumpet
case out of it.


Not if it makes you happy. Make it nice and it'll give you a warm
fuzzy every time you take out the trumpet.

What say ye?**Also,*what*say*ye*about*trying*some*other*kin d*of*shellac*on
the two-tone walnut?**I'm*debating*whether*to*try*garnet*or*ora nge*instead
of the blonde I used last time.**It*might*darken*the*light*patches*a*little
and make everything look more walnutty, but then it might have unwanted
clashes with the (faux?) mahogany too.


Garnet lac would be beautiful on both woods.

Barry
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Ba r r y wrote:

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500, Silvan
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What say ye?


You should be a writer. G


I wish I could get paid for this kind of thing right here, really. Writing
random muses about things is about all I'm good for. I hope it makes for
good entertainment, but it's not book fodder. I haven't found a market for
my style of writing.

I'm working on a book now, and I may get it published, but I'd rather be
known for something besides computer books. Even presuming I do get it
published without resorting to paying a vanity publisher.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
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GeeDubb wrote:

Personally I'd wait to get some walnut as I don't care for mahogany.
Walnut
has so much more character. If you have a good trumpet then I'd wait for


I'm glad someone agrees with the principle. When walnut is available, why
use anything else?

the right selection of walnut for the case. If you have a pea shooter
trumpet like mine then........


It's not a fancy trumpet. Just an Olds Ambassador student model. I've
about talked myself out of doing the case because this thing will live on a
trumpet stand 90% of the time anyway. I almost never travel with it, and I
don't expect having a fancy case is going to make it any more likely that I
will suddenly become a social butterfly and make a bunch of music playing
friends. No hurry on the case at all, so I can wait until I can do it the
way I want, or maybe not do it at all.

would be awesome. If you use the mahogany you'll always be wondering how
much better it would have looked with walnut.


And there is definitely that. I'm just not seeing mahogany here. But for a
chess box... Sure, that will look fine I guess.

Hafta get into scraping though. Whatever species this is has some really
nasty looking reversing grain. Every other growth layer on this board has
massive tearout from the lumber yard's planer. I haven't hit it with a
well tuned hand plane yet, but I'm thinking I may well have to scrape
everything.

Now you have me thinking of making a nice case for my wife's flute (much
more than a pea shooter as she still plays and I don't)


Just don't make it so nice she decides she has to put one of those $50,000
jobs in there.

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Silvan wrote:
Now you have me thinking of making a nice case for my wife's flute
(much more than a pea shooter as she still plays and I don't)


Just don't make it so nice she decides she has to put one of those
$50,000 jobs in there.


I had to take a step back when she bought the latest flute for $2500. The
sound difference between her old flute and the new one was incredible. I
don't know if the $50k flute would be that stubstantial of a difference to
warrant the cost. Gold flute would be nice, though!

Fortunately my wife is way more frugal than that and I really couldn't gripe
seeing as my mountain bike was quite a bit more......

Gary


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Silvan wrote:

Ba r r y wrote:

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

What say ye?


You should be a writer. G


I wish I could get paid for this kind of thing right here, really.
Writing
random muses about things is about all I'm good for. I hope it makes for
good entertainment, but it's not book fodder. I haven't found a market
for my style of writing.

I'm working on a book now, and I may get it published, but I'd rather be
known for something besides computer books. Even presuming I do get it
published without resorting to paying a vanity publisher.


Do you write because you have to or do you write hoping to make a buck? If
it's a compulsion go with it. If it's not then you will probably find it
frustrating.

I added it up a while back and I've put something over a million words on
USENET over the past 15 years or so. If I had written just one marketable
novel in that time . . .

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 09:46:13 -0500, "J. Clarke"
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Silvan wrote:

Ba r r y wrote:

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 13:13:49 -0500, Silvan
wrote:

What say ye?

You should be a writer. G


I wish I could get paid for this kind of thing right here, really.
Writing
random muses about things is about all I'm good for. I hope it makes for
good entertainment, but it's not book fodder. I haven't found a market
for my style of writing.

I'm working on a book now, and I may get it published, but I'd rather be
known for something besides computer books. Even presuming I do get it
published without resorting to paying a vanity publisher.


Do you write because you have to or do you write hoping to make a buck? If
it's a compulsion go with it. If it's not then you will probably find it
frustrating.

I added it up a while back and I've put something over a million words on
USENET over the past 15 years or so. If I had written just one marketable
novel in that time . . .


I've written seven or eight of them. It doesn't make the compulsion to
write go away and it doesn't get you off USENET.

(It doesn't make that much money, either, but that's a different
issue.)

Writing is definitely an obsessive compulsive disorder.

--RC

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