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I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured on my
computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood Finish,
semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color of the padauk.
The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says that drying times
will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it still being tacky 12 or
more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the humidity has been up and down the
past couple of days, but I wouldn't expect the drying time to be this long.
The last coat was wiped on, so I don't think it's a matter of putting down
too much. Any ideas?

todd



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"Todd Fatheree" wrote in
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I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured
on my computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go
again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood
Finish, semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color
of the padauk. The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says
that drying times will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it
still being tacky 12 or more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the
humidity has been up and down the past couple of days, but I wouldn't
expect the drying time to be this long. The last coat was wiped on, so
I don't think it's a matter of putting down too much. Any ideas?


I was brushing the waterbased gloss this evening, and having the opposite
problem. It was curing too fast to be able to tip it off properly. We
were, however, likely still above the recommended temperature range for
application. I'm just not terribly patient. I want this project OFF MY
BENCH! There are more interesting things to do than wait for finish to
cure. So I'm guessing you're using the oil-based product...

BTW, I didn't think anyone used much Netware anymore. I haven't done a
server since about 1995, after having done maybe several hundred since
1983...

Patriarch
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"Todd Fatheree" wrote in
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I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured
on my computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go
again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood
Finish, semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color
of the padauk. The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says
that drying times will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it
still being tacky 12 or more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the
humidity has been up and down the past couple of days, but I wouldn't
expect the drying time to be this long. The last coat was wiped on, so
I don't think it's a matter of putting down too much. Any ideas?


I was brushing the waterbased gloss this evening, and having the opposite
problem. It was curing too fast to be able to tip it off properly. We
were, however, likely still above the recommended temperature range for
application. I'm just not terribly patient. I want this project OFF MY
BENCH! There are more interesting things to do than wait for finish to
cure. So I'm guessing you're using the oil-based product...

BTW, I didn't think anyone used much Netware anymore. I haven't done a
server since about 1995, after having done maybe several hundred since
1983...

Patriarch


I guess I assumed that the outdoor flavor implied oil-based, but in case it
doesn't, it is indeed oil-based.

As for Netware, I guess we're seeing a smallish resurgence in interest. If
you don't know, Novell recently acquired SuSE linux and I think that has
generated some interest. In any case, the company needs someone to get up
to date on their CNE and since I'm the only engineer with a CNE in my
location, I drew the short straw. What the hell version of Netware were you
installing in '83? Netware 1.0 didn't even come out until '88. According
to my sources, Netware 68 came out in '83, and it didn't even support ArcNet
until a year later. If you were working with that stuff, you are some kind
of mega-geek ;-).

todd

todd


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What the
hell version of Netware were you installing in '83? Netware 1.0
didn't even come out until '88. According to my sources, Netware 68
came out in '83, and it didn't even support ArcNet until a year later.
If you were working with that stuff, you are some kind of mega-geek
;-).

I did an S Net server in '83, and started doing a lot of Arcnet when it
became available. In my files is a copy of the second newsletter they
published. It was a pretty small company back then.

The other note to remember is that Vida Blue and Nolan Ryan were contending
for Cy Young Awards back in those days. Today, they sell Advil, and do
promotional tours. 25 years is a LONG time to stay on the bleeding edge of
technology. I sell and manage these days.

Good luck with both of your products.

Patriarch
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I don't think oil based varnish is going to help too much with the Paduak
color loss. But I'd probably thin the Varathane about 25% or so if you're
having a drying problem.

Brian.


"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
...
I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured on

my
computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood

Finish,
semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color of the

padauk.
The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says that drying times
will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it still being tacky 12 or
more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the humidity has been up and down

the
past couple of days, but I wouldn't expect the drying time to be this

long.
The last coat was wiped on, so I don't think it's a matter of putting down
too much. Any ideas?

todd







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Well, the thought was that since it provides "maximum UV protection", it
might retard the color change somewhat. Since it cleans up with mineral
spirits, is that the appropriate thinner?

todd

"Brian" wrote in message
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I don't think oil based varnish is going to help too much with the Paduak
color loss. But I'd probably thin the Varathane about 25% or so if you're
having a drying problem.

Brian.


"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
...
I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured

on
my
computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood

Finish,
semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color of the

padauk.
The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says that drying times
will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it still being tacky 12 or
more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the humidity has been up and down

the
past couple of days, but I wouldn't expect the drying time to be this

long.
The last coat was wiped on, so I don't think it's a matter of putting

down
too much. Any ideas?

todd







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Mineral spirits, naptha, turpentine all work. Naptha dries a tad faster.
I'd probably seal it with a few coats of shellac prior to varnishing, too.

Brian.


"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
...
Well, the thought was that since it provides "maximum UV protection", it
might retard the color change somewhat. Since it cleans up with mineral
spirits, is that the appropriate thinner?

todd

"Brian" wrote in message
...
I don't think oil based varnish is going to help too much with the

Paduak
color loss. But I'd probably thin the Varathane about 25% or so if

you're
having a drying problem.

Brian.


"Todd Fatheree" wrote in message
...
I posted this earlier, but I was doing some computer work with a test
Netware server and I ended up getting a date of Jan.1, 2000 configured

on
my
computer, so that's what the posting went out as. So here I go again.

I'm finishing a padauk table top and am using Varathane Diamond Wood

Finish,
semi-gloss outdoor in the hopes of delaying the loss of color of the

padauk.
The problem I'm having is the dry time. While it says that drying

times
will vary, of course, I'm having trouble with it still being tacky 12

or
more hours later. I'm in Chicago, and the humidity has been up and

down
the
past couple of days, but I wouldn't expect the drying time to be this

long.
The last coat was wiped on, so I don't think it's a matter of putting

down
too much. Any ideas?

todd









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Todd Fatheree wrote:
Well, the thought was that since it provides "maximum UV protection",

it
might retard the color change somewhat. Since it cleans up with

mineral
spirits, is that the appropriate thinner?

todd



Mineral spirits are fine. And to make it a true wiping varnish you'd
want to thin it 50%.

will

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