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Went to this this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:41:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: Went to this this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g The one I went to last week had the sides up and heat on. It was *cold*. ;-) This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. They shorted me the sandpaper. :-( I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. You bought it from the store, though, right? They said they didn't sell stuff. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. Did you ask about the reports of them burning up? |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:47:58 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 12/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:41:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: Went to this this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g The one I went to last week had the sides up and heat on. It was *cold*. ;-) This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. They shorted me the sandpaper. :-( Well I ended up with an 18 volt battery that will not work on my 15 volt drill. LOL. But if I grind that tab a little it will fit. I wondering if the 3 extra volts will harm the electronics.... The motor should be able to handle it. Works in my Carvex and Sheetrock driver. ;-) I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. You bought it from the store, though, right? They said they didn't sell stuff. Yes the store.... Before 12 noon the store sold 5 Dominoes. and at least one Kapex. :~) Five Dominoes is impressive. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. Did you ask about the reports of them burning up? Yes I did. The rep indicated that it is hard to say what the issue may have been. He suggested, and I tend to agree, that it is probably the guys that use the saw heavily and daily and brutally. He thinks they may not be letting the soft start motor coming up to speed before plunging the cut. I'm thinking that the typical miter saw lasts 3~5 years when being carried to multiple work sites and they may being abused too... I don't have much concern at all about it. I was surprised that there were so many owners and tradesmen that owned the Kapex at the show. they all said I would be glad that I bought it. All of those guys and one gal, sounded like me when I preach the Domino. ;-) I don't think you'll find the Kapex to be quite as unique, though. About the lady, I suspect she was in her mid to late 60's retired and loved woodworking for a hobby. She has the Kapex, both the large and small Domino, track saw, sanders.....but no drill yet. ;~) She seemed to walk the walk. Was the German woman there? She gave a mean presentation of their twitching tool. Almost convinced me it was worth the money. ;-) |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:47:58 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:41:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: Went to this this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g The one I went to last week had the sides up and heat on. It was *cold*. ;-) This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. They shorted me the sandpaper. :-( Well I ended up with an 18 volt battery that will not work on my 15 volt drill. LOL. But if I grind that tab a little it will fit. I wondering if the 3 extra volts will harm the electronics.... The motor should be able to handle it. Works in my Carvex and Sheetrock driver. ;-) I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. You bought it from the store, though, right? They said they didn't sell stuff. Yes the store.... Before 12 noon the store sold 5 Dominoes. and at least one Kapex. :~) Five Dominoes is impressive. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. Did you ask about the reports of them burning up? Yes I did. The rep indicated that it is hard to say what the issue may have been. He suggested, and I tend to agree, that it is probably the guys that use the saw heavily and daily and brutally. He thinks they may not be letting the soft start motor coming up to speed before plunging the cut. I'm thinking that the typical miter saw lasts 3~5 years when being carried to multiple work sites and they may being abused too... I don't have much concern at all about it. I was surprised that there were so many owners and tradesmen that owned the Kapex at the show. they all said I would be glad that I bought it. All of those guys and one gal, sounded like me when I preach the Domino. ;-) I don't think you'll find the Kapex to be quite as unique, though. About the lady, I suspect she was in her mid to late 60's retired and loved woodworking for a hobby. She has the Kapex, both the large and small Domino, track saw, sanders.....but no drill yet. ;~) She seemed to walk the walk. Was the German woman there? She gave a mean presentation of their twitching tool. Almost convinced me it was worth the money. ;-) There was a young woman there but I did not speak with her. She was overseeing the drill area. Twitching tool? Would that be the multimaster with a Festool name on it? I still cannot wrap my head around all of the people that owned the Kapex. And for most it was not their first mitersaw. |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:13:34 -0600, Leon wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:47:58 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:41:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: Went to this this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g The one I went to last week had the sides up and heat on. It was *cold*. ;-) This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. They shorted me the sandpaper. :-( Well I ended up with an 18 volt battery that will not work on my 15 volt drill. LOL. But if I grind that tab a little it will fit. I wondering if the 3 extra volts will harm the electronics.... The motor should be able to handle it. Works in my Carvex and Sheetrock driver. ;-) I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. You bought it from the store, though, right? They said they didn't sell stuff. Yes the store.... Before 12 noon the store sold 5 Dominoes. and at least one Kapex. :~) Five Dominoes is impressive. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. Did you ask about the reports of them burning up? Yes I did. The rep indicated that it is hard to say what the issue may have been. He suggested, and I tend to agree, that it is probably the guys that use the saw heavily and daily and brutally. He thinks they may not be letting the soft start motor coming up to speed before plunging the cut. I'm thinking that the typical miter saw lasts 3~5 years when being carried to multiple work sites and they may being abused too... I don't have much concern at all about it. I was surprised that there were so many owners and tradesmen that owned the Kapex at the show. they all said I would be glad that I bought it. All of those guys and one gal, sounded like me when I preach the Domino. ;-) I don't think you'll find the Kapex to be quite as unique, though. About the lady, I suspect she was in her mid to late 60's retired and loved woodworking for a hobby. She has the Kapex, both the large and small Domino, track saw, sanders.....but no drill yet. ;~) She seemed to walk the walk. Was the German woman there? She gave a mean presentation of their twitching tool. Almost convinced me it was worth the money. ;-) There was a young woman there but I did not speak with her. She was overseeing the drill area. Twitching tool? Would that be the multimaster with a Festool name on it? I don't think she was that young. Well comparatively, sure. ;-) Yes, but does the Multimaster have the same attachments? I don't know what it's called but the pad that is used for plunge cutting is really sweet. I still cannot wrap my head around all of the people that owned the Kapex. And for most it was not their first mitersaw. It's certainly one of the best as a worksite saw. |
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OK, Leon. So the saw will be in San Antonio on Saturday? Does that mean your happy self with be here, too? Are they shipping it to the local Woodcraft on 281?
On another note, I don't know what "tradesmen" use Kapex out on a jobsite. Believe me, I know many, many carpenters, trimmers, cabinet installers, remodelers, and a few custom cabinet makers. Not one, seriously, with all my contacts of 42 years of doing this work, not one uses a Kapex. Could the guys you saw be some wannabes? No one is doubting the quality of the tool or the quality of its output. First, you simply don't need that kind of accuracy using today's current building methods. Most important, you might as well hang a neon sign on a saw like that asking someone to steal it. Most of us work out of pickups... where could you hide it? The standard around here for trimmers is the DeWalt products. Good/great accuracy, sturdy build, parts for repair are available over the counter, and they have good service life. My last DeWalt 713 lasted 22 years. It rode from job to job in the back ofthe truck. I couldn't tell you how many thousand feet of all kinds of trim that thing cut. It still runs, but the lift handle broke and it exposed wiring so it is unsafe until I find a good ABS glue. I loved that saw enough to run right out and get another rendition of that same model. Granted, I wouldn't let anyone else use it, and it was treated very well because I didn't want to knock it out of my adjustment. I took a lot of time to fine tune it as needed. But I paid something like $190 bucks for it, and you can replace it now for something like $220. That saw is a steal. Anyway... Robert |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 02:27:13 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: OK, Leon. So the saw will be in San Antonio on Saturday? Does that mean your happy self with be here, too? Are they shipping it to the local Woodcraft on 281? On another note, I don't know what "tradesmen" use Kapex out on a jobsite. Believe me, I know many, many carpenters, trimmers, cabinet installers, remodelers, and a few custom cabinet makers. Not one, seriously, with all my contacts of 42 years of doing this work, not one uses a Kapex. Could the guys you saw be some wannabes? No one is doubting the quality of the tool or the quality of its output. Actually quite a few people are doubting the quality of the tool. Read the negative reviews on Amazon--burned out motors seem to be commonplace. First, you simply don't need that kind of accuracy using today's current building methods. Most important, you might as well hang a neon sign on a saw like that asking someone to steal it. Most of us work out of pickups... where could you hide it? The standard around here for trimmers is the DeWalt products. Good/great accuracy, sturdy build, parts for repair are available over the counter, and they have good service life. My last DeWalt 713 lasted 22 years. It rode from job to job in the back ofthe truck. I couldn't tell you how many thousand feet of all kinds of trim that thing cut. It still runs, but the lift handle broke and it exposed wiring so it is unsafe until I find a good ABS glue. I loved that saw enough to run right out and get another rendition of that same model. Granted, I wouldn't let anyone else use it, and it was treated very well because I didn't want to knock it out of my adjustment. I took a lot of time to fine tune it as needed. But I paid something like $190 bucks for it, and you can replace it now for something like $220. That saw is a steal. Anyway... Robert |
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 23:13:34 -0600, Leon wrote: wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:47:58 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 12/11/2017 8:32 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 16:41:48 -0600, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: Went to this this morning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=O0bS3xVnA0g The one I went to last week had the sides up and heat on. It was *cold*. ;-) This is worth going to. I got a 5 amp 18 bolt battery, charger, Granat sanding sponge pack, Festool Road Tour cap, Festool carry bag, catalog, and a "sticker". This was free. They shorted me the sandpaper. :-( Well I ended up with an 18 volt battery that will not work on my 15 volt drill. LOL. But if I grind that tab a little it will fit. I wondering if the 3 extra volts will harm the electronics.... The motor should be able to handle it. Works in my Carvex and Sheetrock driver. ;-) I also got a Kapex, stand, and support arms capable of 94.5" repeatable cuts. That was not free. You bought it from the store, though, right? They said they didn't sell stuff. Yes the store.... Before 12 noon the store sold 5 Dominoes. and at least one Kapex. :~) Five Dominoes is impressive. It will be in SA on Saturday, Robert. I will say that I ran into 4~6 people that already own the Kapex and many have had the saw 5+ years, including a local small business. They all could not say enough about the saw. The brothers that have their own business gave me a few pointers for cutting crown moldings and for cutting small pieces so that they don't get sucked up into the dust collection. Did you ask about the reports of them burning up? Yes I did. The rep indicated that it is hard to say what the issue may have been. He suggested, and I tend to agree, that it is probably the guys that use the saw heavily and daily and brutally. He thinks they may not be letting the soft start motor coming up to speed before plunging the cut. I'm thinking that the typical miter saw lasts 3~5 years when being carried to multiple work sites and they may being abused too... I don't have much concern at all about it. I was surprised that there were so many owners and tradesmen that owned the Kapex at the show. they all said I would be glad that I bought it. All of those guys and one gal, sounded like me when I preach the Domino. ;-) I don't think you'll find the Kapex to be quite as unique, though. About the lady, I suspect she was in her mid to late 60's retired and loved woodworking for a hobby. She has the Kapex, both the large and small Domino, track saw, sanders.....but no drill yet. ;~) She seemed to walk the walk. Was the German woman there? She gave a mean presentation of their twitching tool. Almost convinced me it was worth the money. ;-) There was a young woman there but I did not speak with her. She was overseeing the drill area. Twitching tool? Would that be the multimaster with a Festool name on it? I don't think she was that young. Well comparatively, sure. ;-) Yeah! Younger'n me. LOL Yes, but does the Multimaster have the same attachments? I don't know what it's called but the pad that is used for plunge cutting is really sweet. NO, I don't think so.. Festool adds a lot of premium features to the tool over what Fein offers IRC. I still cannot wrap my head around all of the people that owned the Kapex. And for most it was not their first mitersaw. It's certainly one of the best as a worksite saw. |
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On 12/13/2017 7:09 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 02:27:13 -0800 (PST), " wrote: OK, Leon. So the saw will be in San Antonio on Saturday? Does that mean your happy self with be here, too? Are they shipping it to the local Woodcraft on 281? On another note, I don't know what "tradesmen" use Kapex out on a jobsite. Believe me, I know many, many carpenters, trimmers, cabinet installers, remodelers, and a few custom cabinet makers. Not one, seriously, with all my contacts of 42 years of doing this work, not one uses a Kapex. Could the guys you saw be some wannabes? No one is doubting the quality of the tool or the quality of its output. Actually quite a few people are doubting the quality of the tool. Read the negative reviews on Amazon--burned out motors seem to be commonplace. The speculation as to why this was happening was explained as possibly not letting the soft start come up to speed before plunge cutting. |
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On 12/13/2017 8:14 AM, Leon wrote:
wrote: OK, Leon. So the saw will be in San Antonio on Saturday? Does that mean your happy self with be here, too? Are they shipping it to the local Woodcraft on 281? Check the Festool Road show schedule or call your little cal woodcraft to find out the details. I saw the schedule for the show and they will follow SA with Austin, Dallas AND Ft Worth. It really is a very cool setup with Festool guys that can answer any question you may have. umm call your little cal, should have been call your local Woodcraft. On another note, I don't know what "tradesmen" use Kapex out on a jobsite. Believe me, I know many, many carpenters, trimmers, cabinet installers, remodelers, and a few custom cabinet makers. Not one, seriously, with all my contacts of 42 years of doing this work, not one uses a Kapex. Could the guys you saw be some wannabes? Neither did I but out of the 4 -5 I met a couple were in the business. They had all kinds of suggestions of how they use theirs and how they have theirs set up to cut crowns. No one is doubting the quality of the tool or the quality of its output. First, you simply don't need that kind of accuracy using today's current building methods. Most important, you might as well hang a neon sign on a saw like that asking someone to steal it. Most of us work out of pickups... where could you hide it? Agreed with the need for accuracy on the job site. Of the trades, guys 2 were brothers, about our age and nationality. :-). They for years were trim carpenters and apparently hauled the Kapex to the job site. With two of them I guess there are twice as many eyes on guard. IIRC they got the saw about 7 years ago. They did say that they were going more towards custom Furnature and were not doing any or as much trim any more. For me, I want the accuracy and quality of cut. I often have the TS set up for a particular cut and need to make other quality cuts. Can I justify the cost? NOOOO. It was the whole package. Very small foot print when not in use. Very easy to move and set up. Very quick to set and tear down,including the wing extensions on both sides. I think it takes about 2 minutes to pull it out and set up for repeatable cutstyo to 94.5". The standard around here for trimmers is the DeWalt products. Good/great accuracy, sturdy build, parts for repair are available over the counter, and they have good service life. My last DeWalt 713 lasted 22 years. It rode from job to job in the back ofthe truck. I couldn't tell you how many thousand feet of all kinds of trim that thing cut. It still runs, but the lift handle broke and it exposed wiring so it is unsafe until I find a good ABS glue. I loved that saw enough to run right out and get another rendition of that same model. Granted, I wouldn't let anyone else use it, and it was treated very well because I didn't want to knock it out of my adjustment. I took a lot of time to fine tune it as needed. But I paid something like $190 bucks for it, and you can replace it now for something like $220. That saw is a steal. Anyway... Robert Understood. :-). I won't be lending mine out either. Kim talked me into it. I think she got tired of me fondling the Kapex at the store. |
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Sorry. After reading your posts, I could tell by the justification of "practicality", "portability", "it would work well for me in my shop due to limited space"...
I knew you had already purchased it!!! Like The Hulk, you have a certain amount of that Festool green blood that flows through your veins! I just didn't know where it was going to be shipped. I thought in anticipation of your new Christmas gift you might not have wanted to wait for them to show up in Houston, and to speed things along might have decided to pick one up here. BTW, Kathy should have an answer on her time off this Friday. Robert |
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